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Tomlinson tabbed AP Most Valuable Player


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NEW YORK (Jan. 4, 2007) -- Spell this year's NFL MVP: L.T.

Record-setting LaDainian Tomlinson of the San Diego Chargers ran away with The Associated Press NFL Most Valuable Player award the way he eluded defenders in leading his team to the AFC's best record (14-2) and a favorite's role for the Super Bowl.

"When you're MVP of the league, it's a great accomplishment," Tomlinson said, adding the honor means "that I've had a great year, that's all, on a great team."

But with so much more on the horizon, he hopes.

"I would feel so much better about winning if we win the Super Bowl. It would feel like it would be everything," Tomlinson said.

Tomlinson, who broke Shaun Alexander 's league record for touchdowns by scoring 31 (28 rushing) and also threw for two scores, had one of the greatest seasons in NFL history. He rushed for a league-high 1,815 yards on 348 carries, had 56 receptions for 508 yards and was 2 for 3 as a passer, both completions for scores, giving the Chargers running back six in his six-year career, tying him for second among non-quarterbacks.

All of those are merely numbers -- impressive numbers, but just stats. Tomlinson's attributes go way beyond that as a solid citizen and a player who lets his on-field actions represent him.

"It couldn't happen to a better person, a man who is the face and the perfect representative of the National Football League," fullback Lorenzo Neal said. "He represents what every player should be."

Few players have approached what Tomlinson achieved as San Diego won its final 10 games. Alexander, last season's MVP, understood what L.T. did.

"He won't realize it until after the year is over. Because when you're in a groove you're just about winning games," Alexander said late in the season. "Their season almost looks like ours last year; it's kind of funny. He won't recognize it until it's all over with, and then he'll be like, 'Dang that was sweet."'

So sweet that he received 44 of the 50 votes from a nationwide panel of sports writers and broadcasters who cover the NFL. Former teammate Drew Brees, now starting quarterback for the New Orleans Saints, got four votes, and Indianapolis QB Peyton Manning got two.

Tomlinson rushed for at least 100 yards 10 times this season, including nine in a row, and scored two or more TDs in 10 games. The highlights were four-touchdown games against San Francisco in a 48-19 romp and Cincinnati in a 49-41 shootout in which San Diego trailed 28-7 at halftime.

Those performances prompted coach Marty Schottenheimer to declare L.T. the best running back in pro football history. Yes, better than J.B. (Jim Brown), O.J. (Simpson) and W.P. (Walter Payton).

And Schottenheimer saw all of them play, along with the likes of Emmitt Smith and Gale Sayers.

"One of the things that we all strive for in our chosen field, whatever that might be, is the respect of our peers," Schottenheimer said. "I think that's the most important qualities that any individual can ever possess, the ability that those that know him look at him with the respect that, 'This is a person that I admire.'

"I think with a certainty that everybody in this building and most everybody in this community probably has that sense about LaDainian Tomlinson. He is an individual who engenders the respect of everybody that he comes in contact with."

Tomlinson is the first Charger to win the MVP award. He joins Brown (1957 and '65), Simpson (1973) and Payton (1977) among brilliant running backs to take the honor.

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ChargerMike wrote:So sweet that he received 44 of the 50 votes from a nationwide panel of sports writers and broadcasters who cover the NFL. Former teammate Drew Brees, now starting quarterback for the New Orleans Saints, got four votes, and Indianapolis QB Peyton Manning got two.
I'd love to know who the idiots were who voted for Brees and Manning.
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Those performances prompted coach Marty Schottenheimer to declare L.T. the best running back in pro football history.


Guess it just depends on how you want to define best.

Smith, Payton (and others) have longevity on their side.

As great as LT is, I'd say he needs to stay healthy and do his thang for a few more years at least before the claim that he is the BEST evah is made.

But maybe that's just me.


Great season, LT!!
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poptart wrote:Those performances prompted coach Marty Schottenheimer to declare L.T. the best running back in pro football history.


Guess it just depends on how you want to define best.

Smith, Payton (and others) have longevity on their side.

As great as LT is, I'd say he needs to stay healthy and do his thang for a few more years at least before the claim that he is the BEST evah is made.

But maybe that's just me.


Great season, LT!!


...no Pops not just you, to be the best ever, you have to be the best ever. In six years L.T. has missed one game...if he postsTHESE NUMBERS for 4-5 more years THEN he can be compared to the best ever.
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No argument on that choice...

It can be argued that he's not the best pure running back of all-time but I think he's becoming the great playmaker at the running back position with his ability break off big plays as a runner and as a receiver. As far as pure carriers of the football...Jim Brown probably holds that mantle. Freakish skill and vision out of the running back position...Barry gets that nod. LT is the great playmaking running back of all time.
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Without that line, the QB, the receivers, the coaches, his speed, his escapability and his power, no way he gets that award.
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He deserved it. It's hard not to root for that guy.
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Yeah, MVP was a tough call this year. It was a hard-fought debate between LT and LT.

But "best ever"? If you're talking "body of work," gotta go with Sweetness or Jim Brown(before my time, but seen enough highlights to know what a beast he was). "Best" as in ability to take over a game and be a threat to bust any given play open for a TD?

Bo Freaking Jackson.

Bo knows stomping your face in.


If LT keeps this act up for a few more seasons, it will be hard to not mention him in the same breath as the all-time greats. Amazing player, and manages to not be a jackass about it -- a rare quality these days.
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Dinsdale wrote:Yeah, MVP was a tough call this year. It was a hard-fought debate between LT and LT.

But "best ever"? If you're talking "body of work," gotta go with Sweetness or Jim Brown(before my time, but seen enough highlights to know what a beast he was). "Best" as in ability to take over a game and be a threat to bust any given play open for a TD?

How can you take the article seriously when it included...

Those performances prompted coach Marty Schottenheimer to declare L.T. the best running back in pro football history. Yes, better than J.B. (Jim Brown), O.J. (Simpson) and W.P. (Walter Payton).

... The Juice in the same breath as the other two? This reminds me of the time Bitch Smacked put Roesthlisberger in the same sentence as LT and Priest Holmes a couple of years ago. I mean... come on.
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Dinsdale wrote:Yeah, MVP was a tough call this year. It was a hard-fought debate between LT and LT.

But "best ever"? If you're talking "body of work," gotta go with Sweetness or Jim Brown(before my time, but seen enough highlights to know what a beast he was). "Best" as in ability to take over a game and be a threat to bust any given play open for a TD?

How can you take the article seriously when it included...

Those performances prompted coach Marty Schottenheimer to declare L.T. the best running back in pro football history. Yes, better than J.B. (Jim Brown), O.J. (Simpson) and W.P. (Walter Payton).

... The Juice in the same breath as the other two? This reminds me of the time Bitch Smacked put Roesthlisberger in the same sentence as LT and Priest Holmes a couple of years ago. I mean... come on.
Fucking RACK

LT as the overwhelming MVP? Most definitely.


LT the best ever? Fuck no.

I was fortunate enough to grow up watching some of the greatest running backs of all time-and anybody who witnessed Payton, Bo Jackson, and Barry Sanders (Whose moves would snap the tendons of any other running back who attempted them) knows better than to compare LT with those legends this early.

Too bad Bo Jax got hurt as he was entering his prime-we simply wouldnt be having this discussion if that werent the case.


I wonder if all this LT dickslurping will carry on when the Vag Discharge's get beat in thier first playoff game..........
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Ahh I see. LT can't be compared to any of those legeds because he hasn't played long enough (5 years), especially Bo Jackson who played 4 years, never had a 1000 yard rushing season and scored a total of 18 touchdowns.

I get it. You're an idiot.

LT has more rushing yards, more TDs, more receptions, more yards receiving and more total yards from scrimmage than any in that group had at the same point.

Jim Brown played 9 years.
If LT plays 4 more years at the average production that he's put out so far he will pass every one of those players' career totals in every category.

Of course it's too early to gloss LT the "best ever", but to say he's not in that group is plain ignorant.
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Mikey wrote:Ahh I see. LT can't be compared to any of those legeds because he hasn't played long enough (5 years), especially Bo Jackson who played 4 years, never had a 1000 yard rushing season and scored a total of 18 touchdowns.

I get it. You're an idiot.

LT has more rushing yards, more TDs, more receptions, more yards receiving and more total yards from scrimmage than any in that group had at the same point.

Jim Brown played 9 years.
If LT plays 4 more years at the average production that he's put out so far he will pass every one of those players' career totals in every category.

Of course it's too early to gloss LT the "best ever", but to say he's not in that group is plain ignorant.

...freeking rack that!

If Bo Jackson (and I loved him) was right up there with Walter Payton and Barry Sanders after 4 years and 18 TD's...damn, can you imagine where James would place L.T. right now after 6, if he were a Raiduh? Freeking myopia spills over once again
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RACK Mikey.


I just took exception to OJ being included in any list of greats... unless you're talking most over-rated players of all-time. Simpson had a total of 3 great years, 2 good ones, and 6 other years of under 750 yards. To me... that is not greatness. LT already has produced more "great seasons" than OJ ever did. Not to mention LT can throw, catch, and block. Three things OJ never did.
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Yeah, I agree on OJ. One 2000 yard season doesn't make an "all time great".
Just like a few of the most spectacular runs and probably the most devastating combination of strength and speed evah (Bo) doesn't make an "all time great" if he burns out in less than 4 years.
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Burns out?

How the fuck did he "burn out", idiot?

He broke his fucking hip by being too strong and trying to pull out of a tackle by 2 bengals. (The Doctor who diagnosed the injury said those exact words)



Also, Bo only played 7-8 games a year due to being an All-Star baseball player.


Anyone who ever witnessed Bo would attest to him being the complete package-its too damn bad he was good at so many sports and decided to split his talents among them instead of concentrating on being the undisputed greatest in one (which he would have been)

Bo is the most incredible RB i've ever seen. Period.
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Raydah James wrote:Burns out?

How the fuck did he "burn out", idiot?

He broke his fucking hip by being too strong and trying to pull out of a tackle by 2 bengals. (The Doctor who diagnosed the injury said those exact words)
Merriam Webster Unabridged wrote:Main Entry: burn out
Function: verb
Etymology: burn + out
transitive verb

2 : to fail, wear out, or become exhausted by reason of excessive demands on energy, strength, or resources <at this rate you'll burn out before you're 30> <the best soil burns out under constant heavy cropping>

I think it pretty much fits the definition.
Care to continue KYOA, moron?

I'd accuse you of burning out but it's apparent that you never had any energy, strength or resources to burn out in the first place.
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Bo was the most gifted RB I've ever seen.
If he hadn't gone the route of being a part time player he might have gone down as the best ever.

He didn't burn out, Mikey.
Save it.
He got hurt .... due to his phenomenal strength.

Irony.
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It's true, Paul.

Full time baseball Bo might have gone down as one of the best ever too.
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poptart wrote:Bo was the most gifted RB I've ever seen.
If he hadn't gone the route of being a part time player he might have gone down as the best ever.

He didn't burn out, Mikey.
Save it.
He got hurt .... due to his phenomenal strength.

Irony.
Read the definition. He burned out.

I'd have to agree with you though that he was the most gifted RB that I've ever seen as well.
But, if he hadn't gone the route of being a part time player he probably would have burned out even sooner.
He didn't know how to let up, and was amazingly too strong for his own good. It's too bad, it would have been great to see him over a long career.
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Yes


In Jackson's first 4 yrs in the majors (none of them full-time) he homered once every 16 AB's, had around a .250 batting avg, and stole about 20 bases a year.

Look at famed slugger Mark McGwire and you'll see that in his first 4 seasons (full-time) he homered once every 14 AB's, batted around .250, and stole about ..... 1 base a year.

If Bo has chosen to concentrate strictly on Baseball he would have become more skilled with age and experience (as McGwire did) and whould have been one of the elite players.

It's just my opinion, of course, and you can feel free to disagree.


Bo was GREATER as a football player than a baseball player though.
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Mikey wrote: But, if he hadn't gone the route of being a part time player he probably would have burned out even sooner.
So playing over 110 baseball games in the outfield position for four years straight doesnt take a toll on the body whatsoever?


Because Bo did that before joining the Raiders every fucking year, bitch. He played at a higher level than anybody else in the entire league after nearly playing a full season in MLB.

Fucking moron-every time you slam submit the IQ of this forum drops dramatically.

KCPaul wrote:I saw a recent interview with LT where they asked him if he should be considered as one of the all-time great RBs in NFL history, and his response was something to the effect of "I don't even wanna talk about that stuff- those guys were better than I'll ever be, and MAYBE at the end of my career I'll think about it, but you media guys can determine that stuff better than me."


I saw that too.

I'll go ahead and take the word of said player who declares himself not worthy to be mentioned alongside those greats than a couple of depends wearing messageboard dumbshits who have a fucking hard-on for anything bolt related due to them not being an absolute laughingstock and league punching bag for the first time in nearly 40 fucking years.


RACK LT for telling the truth.
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Mikey... the board idiot wrote:Yeah, I agree on OJ. One 2000 yard season doesn't make an "all time great".
Really?

He was the first to ever do it!

He did it in only 14 games not 16 games!!!

He did it while playing with the Buffalo "fucking" Bills!!!

He did it on the "frozen" tundra of Buffalo, NY. and not the 70 degree year round weather of San Diego!!!

Psst... LT is yet to have a 2,000 yard rushing season!!!

To say ucant and Mikey are brain dead idiots, is a slant to brain dead fucking idiots!

Anyone who saw OJ play(me)... would never say he wasn't one of the best ever!
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Simpson is easily one of the ten greatest running backs in NFL history.
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I agree Poptart.

but I'd say top 4 ever easily.

The Juice had 9 in the box on every single play. When you played the Bills, you had only one objective. Stop OJ Simpson!!!

The year the Juice put up 2,003 yards in 14 games, and everyone knew he was getting the ball, was the most amazing rushing season in the history of the NFL!

In no particular order... my top 4 are

Sayers

Payton

Brown

and the Juice.

Sanders would make my top 5.
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420 wrote:The year the Juice put up 2,003 yards in 14 games, and everyone knew he was getting the ball, was the most amazing rushing season in the history of the NFL!
I agree.

It was an electrifying season, and OJ was just freaking SICK that season.

Averaged 6.0 yds per carry. :shock:


One guy that merits mention in this thread is Earl Campbell. He's one of the 'best' ever. Unfortunately Bum rode that horse to death and his career was too short to be on the short list of the 'best' ever.
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poptart wrote:
420 wrote:The year the Juice put up 2,003 yards in 14 games, and everyone knew he was getting the ball, was the most amazing rushing season in the history of the NFL!
I agree.

It was an electrifying season, and OJ was just freaking SICK that season.

Averaged 6.0 yds per carry. :shock:


One guy that merits mention in this thread is Earl Campbell. He's one of the 'best' ever. Unfortunately Bum rode that horse to death and his career was too short to be on the short list of the 'best' ever.
Yep, Earl was a monster!

I met Earl at the Houston Livestock and Rodeo Show.

We made a trade...at the show.

I gave him 4 wind chimes...the guy loves them.

... and he gave me free food from his booth for 2 weeks.

Financially, I came out on the good end... but he is the millionaire.

So I guess he wins.
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poptart wrote:Simpson is easily one of the ten greatest running backs in NFL history.
That's great, you brain dead old fuck. Too bad my argument is whether or not he was one of the top 3. Even then... I wouldn't put OJ in the top 10. Payton... Brown... Simpson? I will give you he had the best single season as a pure runner of all-time. He also had two other great years. And then? Not so much.

You want to talk about LT not having a 2,000 yard season yet, let's talk about yards from scrimmage. OJ's 3 best years are 2243, 2073, and 1762. LT's 3 best are 2370, 2323, and 2172. Even if you pro-rated OJ's numbers to a 16 game season LT still beats him 2 out 3 years.

To put this in proper pespective:

In 6 years, LT has amassed 9,176 yards rushing 2,900 yards receiving, and 111 TD.
In 11 years, OJ totaled 11,236 yards rushing, 2,142 yards receiving, and 75 TDs.

LT averages 1,529 yards rushing, 483 receiving, and 18.5 TD per year.
OJ averaged 1,021 yards rushing, 194 yards receiving, and 6.8 TD per year.

Even if you pro-rated OJ's numbers to a 16 game season the numbers are 1,167/223/7.8

OJ Simpson... one of the all-time greats? Yeah. For 3 whole years.
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ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:That's great, you brain dead old fuck. Too bad my argument is whether or not he was one of the top 3. Even then... I wouldn't put OJ in the top 10.
No need to get snippy.

I took no shot at you, ucant, I just simply stated that Simpson is easily one of the top ten running backs in NFL history.
I agree that he's not in the top 3.

Simpson led the league in rushing 4 times.
Tomlinson has led the league ....... once.

Offensive numbers have ALL jumped way up since the 70's, ucant.
It was a different league when O.J. was playing.
It doesn't make sense to just look at numbers and draw your conclusions.

You're entitiled to your opinion.
I stand by mine -- that Simpson is among the top 10 runners of all-time.
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poptart wrote:I stand by mine -- that Simpson is among the top 10 runners of all-time.

Runners or running backs? Ya see, tart... GREAT Running Backs are complete players and are asked to do other things... like catch, block, and even throw on occasion.
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Top 10 running backs.
I'm not trying to play word games.

Hey, Simpson was a good receiving back in an era where running backs didn't catch balls at the rate they do today.


Don't come in here selling that LT is to be rated higher than OJ.

I already pointed out that Simpson led the league in rushing 4 times to LT's one, and OJ led the league in yds from scrimmage 3 times and LT has done so just once.
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Raydah James wrote:
Mikey wrote: But, if he hadn't gone the route of being a part time player he probably would have burned out even sooner.
So playing over 110 baseball games in the outfield position for four years straight doesnt take a toll on the body whatsoever?

Not too much contact playing outfield, is there Franz?
You think half a season playing baseball contributed more to his hip injury than 6 or 8 more football games would have?

Idiot
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420 wrote:
Mikey... the board idiot wrote:Yeah, I agree on OJ. One 2000 yard season doesn't make an "all time great".
Really?

He was the first to ever do it!

He did it in only 14 games not 16 games!!!

He did it while playing with the Buffalo "fucking" Bills!!!

He did it on the "frozen" tundra of Buffalo, NY. and not the 70 degree year round weather of San Diego!!!

Psst... LT is yet to have a 2,000 yard rushing season!!!

To say ucant and Mikey are brain dead idiots, is a slant to brain dead fucking idiots!

Anyone who saw OJ play(me)... would never say he wasn't one of the best ever!
So, are you putting Jamal Lewis in your top 3?

Go back to contemplating your navel you fucking moron.
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poptart wrote:
Hey, Simpson was a good receiving back in an era where running backs didn't catch balls at the rate they do today.
And yet three of the top 10 receivers in 1973 were running backs,
as opposed to one, Reggie bush, in 2006. And Bush probably played at a receiver position as often as he did as a RB.

Simpson caught a total of 6 in his 2000 yard rushing season.
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poptart wrote:and OJ led the league in yds from scrimmage 3 times and LT has done so just once.

Led the league? What about Top 5? LT... every year he's been in the league to OJ's what?

Here's the point...

ALL TIME GREATS have more than 3-4 great years. See also... Terrell Davis.

We're not talking about Willie Mays embarrassing himself on the NY Mets after a HOF career. We're talking about a guy who for OVER HALF off his playing career (6 out of 11 seasons) put up pedestrian numbers.
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Mikey wrote:
poptart wrote:
Hey, Simpson was a good receiving back in an era where running backs didn't catch balls at the rate they do today.
And yet three of the top 10 receivers in 1973 were running backs,
as opposed to one, Reggie bush, in 2006. And Bush probably played at a receiver position as often as he did as a RB.

Simpson caught a total of 6 in his 2000 yard rushing season.
Simpson's QBs had a total of 95 completions on 200 attempts. The leading Bills receiver was Rob Chandler with 30 receptions. In fact, it is safe to say that the Bills 1973 passing offense was the model for the 2006 Oakland Raiders passing schemes.
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...this thread is further proof that "numbers" can be made to fit many arguments.

Lets take it another direction...you have the number one draft pick, all things considered (knowing what you know about each) who do you grab.

Rushing/passing
Receiving
Blocking
Longevity
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Community
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Murder


1. Sweetness...
2. Jim Brown..104 yds. per game..9 years
3. Barry Sanders..10 years with the Lions
4. L.T. on his way to greatness
5. Gale Sayers


The only list I put O.J. on is the 10 most wanted murders who walked.
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ChargerMike wrote:...this thread is further proof that "numbers" can be made to fit many arguments.

Lets take it another direction...you have the number one draft pick, all things considered (knowing what you know about each) who do you grab.

Rushing/passing
Receiving
Blocking
Longevity
Clubhouse
Community
Drugs
Murder
Running through airports
Flying through the air and landing in a convertible
Dropping hand grenades through air shafts and fighting at the North Pole



1. Sweetness...
2. Jim Brown..104 yds. per game..9 years
3. Barry Sanders..10 years with the Lions
4. L.T. on his way to greatness
5. Gale Sayers


The only list I put O.J. on is the 10 most wanted murders who walked.
You forgot a few criteria
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Mikey wrote:
ChargerMike wrote:...this thread is further proof that "numbers" can be made to fit many arguments.

Lets take it another direction...you have the number one draft pick, all things considered (knowing what you know about each) who do you grab.

Rushing/passing
Receiving
Blocking
Longevity
Clubhouse
Community
Drugs
Murder
Running through airports
Flying through the air and landing in a convertible
Dropping hand grenades through air shafts and fighting at the North Pole



1. Sweetness...
2. Jim Brown..104 yds. per game..9 years
3. Barry Sanders..10 years with the Lions
4. L.T. on his way to greatness
5. Gale Sayers


The only list I put O.J. on is the 10 most wanted murders who walked.
You forgot a few criteria

...at my age I'm pleased I only forgot a few :D
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ChargerMike wrote:...this thread is further proof that "numbers" can be made to fit many arguments.

Lets take it another direction...you have the number one draft pick, all things considered (knowing what you know about each) who do you grab.
In order...

1. Payton
2. Smith
3. Brown
4. LT
5. Faulk
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Mikey wrote:
Raydah James wrote:
Mikey wrote: But, if he hadn't gone the route of being a part time player he probably would have burned out even sooner.
So playing over 110 baseball games in the outfield position for four years straight doesnt take a toll on the body whatsoever?

Not too much contact playing outfield, is there Franz?
You think half a season playing baseball contributed more to his hip injury than 6 or 8 more football games would have?

Idiot

Yeah, baseball and the many roadtrips across the nation doesnt wear on your body at all. Playing one of the harder and more vital positions where you run, dive, and vertical climb numerous walls ('Sup one of the greatest highlights of all time) is no sweat.

Fucking moron.

Look no further than your own shitbag squad that is a perrenial doormat to see how a season can break your body down and cause injuries. Shit, even your fucking kids are going down(K. Green, Peavy).....hell, alot of that roster cant stay healthy for 111 games-let alone 162.

Ask any of your Padgays how they'd feel after playing 111-132 games a season and then having to strap on pads for the most brutal position in all of football.

Not only did Bo do that, he was the very best in the league when he played.


Lay down and shut the fuck up, old man-you're done.
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