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Seventeen for LA.

Mikey wrote:Seventeen for LA.

how many are "Legals?"

over/under = 1

Oh SNAP??? its COLD during the winter in the Northern Hemisphere...what to do????

Mikey wrote:Seventeen for LA.

Are you including drive bys, or is that number just wishful thinking?

san fran gets chilly, but, I doubt it experiences actual bum killing frosts, does it? Just take your bum in or maybe wrap some newspaper around him. He'll be a'ight.

I'll take the under.

Now if the line was on T1B posters who died of exposure, I'll take the over even though m2ool is downright MacGuvyerish with his inventive use of a meth/windchime space heater.

It's Bush's fault.

15 for hypothermia and 25 'other causes due to chill'.

It's Bush's fault.

Some lightweight lefty really got into your dome, eh?

Guess what, deerfeed...

It's Bush's fault.

that shit ain't funny. Never was, never will be...

PSUFAN wrote:

It's Bush's fault.

Some lightweight lefty really got into your dome, eh?

Jerkovich wrote:It's Bush's fault.

Yeah, this has ALWAYS been one of the more funny takes on this board.
Listen up, you unoriginal deerpellet. I look forward to the day Bush is out of office since that will be the same day your one take that you've ever brought to the board goes by the wayside, and takes you down in flames w/it.

It was 22 degrees here this morning.

22? Wow, that's almost real cold even in places that do cold.

Lo-cal bums must be hating it. What's the produce carnage gonna be like?

I guess the tin foil hat wearing global warming freaks that are talking about our mild winter haven't got the memo on what those west of the mossissippi are going through.

It was 21 degrees here two nights ago and 24 last night. I actually had to break out the New Jersey vehicle ice scraper tool these last bunch of mornings.

Global Warming is coming quickly.

wow--that's something you don't often see
--Cali oranges and ice !!

WHOA!!!!! LOL!!!

Wolfman wrote:
wow--that's something you don't often see
--Cali oranges and ice !!

20 or so years ago my//
dad lost a whole big time 3 acre--
orchard of young orange trees un??
der an ice storm that wiped out muc..
h of the citrus crop in the centra
l valley of CA.

Good times!

Wolfman wrote:
wow--that's something you don't often see
--Cali oranges and ice !!

I heard they hose down the orange groves with water so they WILL freeze like that. Something about putting an (now this sounds insane) INSULATING blanket of ice around the oranges???? Crazy? I guess 32 degrees is warmer than a wind chill in the low digits.

Atomic Punk wrote:

Wolfman wrote:
wow--that's something you don't often see
--Cali oranges and ice !!

20 or so years ago my//
dad lost a whole big time 3 acre--
orchard of young orange trees un??
der an ice storm that wiped out muc..
h of the citrus crop in the centra
l valley of CA.

Good times!

Too bad you didn't die along with those oranges.

Ms. Belvequeer wrote:
Too bad you didn't die along with those oranges.

Here is my 1st and last to you pussy. Did I hurt your itty bitty feewings too under your regular nick to where you need a shitty little troll? Crawl under the blankets pumpkin. The boogie man is only after your mom's ass and you are a distant second in desirability.

Husker4ever wrote:I guess 32 degrees is warmer than a wind chill in the low digits.

Yes... 32 obviously warmer than 22.

Yes... it is also very clear you have no fucking idea what "wind chill" means.

Husker4ever wrote:I heard they hose down the orange groves with water so they WILL freeze like that. Something about putting an (now this sounds insane) INSULATING blanket of ice around the oranges???? Crazy? I guess 32 degrees is warmer than a wind chill in the low digits.

It has nothing to do with 'insulating'. it SURELY has nothing to do with wind chill as you implied. I'll try to make this simple for the 'braska resident... when water freezes, 'measureable' heat is released into the surrounding environment. You see... Liquid water has this latent heat thingy... that is, essentially stored energy. When it freezes, this latent (potential) heat is released as actual heat into the surrounding environment. This, by the way, is the fuel of thunderstorms, especially supercells... latent heat, something a nebraska resident should be at least reasonably familiar with.

So, applying this to orchards when a freeze is about to occur: overhead irrigation is started BEFORE the freeze event occurs and MUST continue for the duration of the event. As water continually freezes on the fruit, latent heat is realeased as actual heat keeping the surface temperature of the fruit right around 32 degrees... usually warm enough to protect the fruit. The minute the irrigation stops, the freezing of water stops, the subsequent release of latent heat stops... and you have frozen, wasted fruit. Thus, the reason for continual irrigation througout the event.

Dinsdale wrote:

Husker4ever wrote:I guess 32 degrees is warmer than a wind chill in the low digits.

Yes... 32 obviously warmer than 22.

Yes... it is also very clear you have no fucking idea what "wind chill" means.

Oh... and to defend husker on this one: an orange on a 32 degree day w/a 25 mph wind is STILL nothing more or less than a 32 degree piece of fruit. Frankly, when it comes to wind chill, it's clear you don't know what you're talking about either.

Ken wrote:

Jerkovich wrote:It's Bush's fault.

Yeah, this has ALWAYS been one of the more funny takes on this board.
Listen up, you unoriginal deerpellet. I look forward to the day Bush is out of office since that will be the same day your one take that you've ever brought to the board goes by the wayside, and takes you down in flames w/it.

Got your twat all foamy like a latte. Mission accomplished.

AP wrote:

Wolfman wrote:
wow--that's something you don't often see
--Cali oranges and ice !!

dad lost a whole big time 3 acre-

What a find! I didn't have orchard laborer on the list!! This was before the military, but did you ever re-visit this job?

Jerkovich wrote:

Ken wrote:

Jerkovich wrote:It's Bush's fault.

Yeah, this has ALWAYS been one of the more funny takes on this board.
Listen up, you unoriginal deerpellet. I look forward to the day Bush is out of office since that will be the same day your one take that you've ever brought to the board goes by the wayside, and takes you down in flames w/it.

Got your twat all foamy like a latte. Mission accomplished.

Oh yes, I'm sure that was your intent seeing as how you and I have been conversing ever so much recently.

You'll just have to forgive me for not believing a single typed word of yours, but rather believe that you are just one, unfunny, poster who seems to think the rapid fire use of vagina smack, of the 'foaming' species in this case, is somehow going to get you over.

Ken wrote:an orange on a 32 degree day w/a 25 mph wind is STILL nothing more or less than a 32 degree piece of fruit. Frankly, when it comes to wind chill, it's clear you don't know what you're talking about either.

So, you and I have the exact same understanding of wind chill, yet I don't know what I'm talking about? That's pretty fucking brillliant, Ken.


For Husker -- you ever wonder why, when it's 25 degrees out, and the wind starts blowing, the thermometer still says 25?

Maybe because it's the exact same temperature outside?

Wind chill æffects the rate at which things cool...no more, no less. Has no bearing on air temperature. If you put an inanimate or non-heat producing object outside when it's 25, it will eventually cool down to 25....if the wind chill factor is -500...guess how cold the object will get?

Or, did you just figure that wind chill worked on everything except thermometers?

mvscal wrote:

Ken wrote:You see... Liquid water has this latent heat thingy... that is, essentially stored energy. When it freezes, this latent (potential) heat is released as actual heat into the surrounding environment.

You might want to stick to washing your Jetta and snuffling ball sacks.

and defoaming your gaping hole.

mvscal wrote:

Ken wrote:You see... Liquid water has this latent heat thingy... that is, essentially stored energy. When it freezes, this latent (potential) heat is released as actual heat into the surrounding environment.

You might want to stick to washing your Jetta and snuffling ball sacks.

I figured I'd leave it alone. Figured that the relevation that a substance that was 32 degrees could maintain the temperature of an object at...32 degrees kind of stood on its own merit.

Who the fuck is snuffling 32 degree ballsacks ? That's sick. If your "latent heat" is so much, go somewhere else, leave the dead guys alone.


Some sick motherfuckers in this joint.

Yeah, THAT'S why it works, douche... because since the ice is 32, the fruit must be too. Well, that would be all well and good... if the ice were 32 degrees.

Dinsdale wrote:

mvscal wrote:

Ken wrote:You see... Liquid water has this latent heat thingy... that is, essentially stored energy. When it freezes, this latent (potential) heat is released as actual heat into the surrounding environment.

You might want to stick to washing your Jetta and snuffling ball sacks.

I figured I'd leave it alone. Figured that the relevation that a substance that was 32 degrees could maintain the temperature of an object at...32 degrees kind of stood on its own merit.

I'm pretty sure the growers don't use huge wind machines and water because of "wind chill" factor.

Needless to say, none of it worked anyway. A billion dollar loss to the local economy's gonna suck but it's happened before and we all survived.

There's a lot of flash frozen oranges around here if anyone is interested. Good news is you can have as many as you want for free.

Ken wrote:Yeah, THAT'S why it works, douche... because since the ice is 32, the fruit must be too. Well, that would be all well and good... if the ice were 32 degrees.

So the ice is 20 degrees, therefore "the fruit" is 20 degrees ?

My wife hates the smell of wind chill.

-Harv

Couple dumb people up in this thread.

Ken wrote:Couple dumb people up in this thread.

mirror gazing?

Ken wrote:Couple dumb people and one bottom-of-the-barrel poster up in this thread.

FTFM

Ken wrote:

Ken wrote:Couple dumb people and one bottom-of-the-barrel poster up in this thread.

FTFM

you know how I know your gay?

Ken wrote:Couple dumb people up in this thread.

Yep and you are one of them...

Please don't try to explain the running of water in the orchards again because reading that bullshit in the first place was brutal enough.

They don't run water for the stored energy from ice jackass.

They run water because the temp of the running water is around 60 degrees in these parts. Hence if you flood an orchard with 60 degree water it is A LOT warmer than the outside enviornment. There's the heat source idiot. They DON'T stop irrigating so ice won't form. They blow air across the water to move the heat around.
Brilliant isn't it.

Ken wrote:Couple dumb people up in this thread.

Ken...I understand what you're trying to say...which was something like "in order to achieve a crystalline state, heat/energy must be drawn from water, and part of this 'latent heat' will be absorbed into the orange, while most of it will be absorbed by the air."


But a moot point, really...since the reason you spray down fruit to form an ice coating is to protect the fruit from the rapid dehydration that is associated with cold, dry, windy conditions, and has little to do with infusing some latent heat into the orange/fruit to "warm it up."


Also a moot point, since the fruit was trashed anyway, with or without the water/ice. Good idea for a few-hour freeze, worthless for an extended one. But I don't expect farmers to sit back and do nothing, either.

A large distillery could have a freaking heyday with the "ruined" fruit...from the pics I saw, the fruit is orange, which means it's far enough into ripening that there's plenty of sugars to be had for a very cheap price. If I was in california and had a working still(that's illegal, right?), I'd be snatching it up like it was going out of style. And with the increasing demand for ethanol for fuel these days, I'm sure somebody has already worked out a scam to make big profit off the "lost crops," while bilking John Q Public in the process...win/win for everyone but the masses.

Orange Juice will be cheap this year, that's what they do with frozen fruit but the "Still" idea has me pondering some interesting citrus heaven.

On a side note the homeless have survived thanks to your tax dollars and free room and board from the local government. What we need is something fast and unexpected to let Darwin work wonders.
Now we get to subsidize thousands of illegal aliens with even more free swag because even they won't eat frozen oranges.