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Fine by me.

Jsc810 wrote:Of course non-lawyers' comments are welcome also.

You're a shit poster.
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JTR brings more to this board than you do. End of story.

Cicero wrote:Fine by me.

Yea, why don't we just suspend habeas corpus while we're at it and appoint Chimpy McDouchbag El Presidente for Life?

Ya fucking moron.

BSmack wrote:

Cicero wrote:Fine by me.

Yea, why don't we just suspend habeas corpus

Worked for me.

Sincerely
Abe Lincoln

Having lived all my life under the jurisdiction of the Ninth Circus errrrrr Circuit Court of Appeals...I see Al's point.

BSmack wrote:

Cicero wrote:Fine by me.

Yea, why don't we just suspend habeas corpus while we're at it and appoint Chimpy McDouchbag El Presidente for Life?

Ya fucking moron.

My opinion was asked. I gave it. I can see you don't agree. Shocking.

We don't need no stinkin' checks and balances.

Gonzales says judges generally should defer to the will of the president and Congress when deciding national security cases.

How do you 'defer to the will of Congress' if you didn't allow Congress an input on the subject in the first place? Fucking Gonzales. :x

mvscal wrote:

KatMode wrote:We don't need no stinkin' checks and balances.

Checks and balances is exactly what he is talking about, dumbfuck.

How do you 'defer to the will of Congress' if you didn't allow Congress an input on the subject in the first place? Fucking Gonzales. :x

Get a clue, you fucking dipshit. Jesus Christ.

Oh yeah, that's right. The BA is checking on the BA to make sure the BA's actions are within the BA guidelines. That's checks and blanaces alright.

What Congressional legislation approved the wiretapping program to step outside the FISA oversight?

mvscal wrote:

Jsc810 wrote:There's a separation of powers issue in there somewhere.

A very clear one to me. Gonzales is absolutely correct.

Did you use the same brain to decide that that you used to decide that Black's are genetically predisposed to violence you racist fuck?

Tom In VA wrote:

BSmack wrote:

Cicero wrote:Fine by me.

Yea, why don't we just suspend habeas corpus

Worked for me.

Sincerely
Abe Lincoln

The next time half the country is in a state of armed insurrection you'll have a valid point.

Moving Sale wrote:Did you use the same brain to decide that that you used to decide that Black's are genetically predisposed to violence you racist fuck?

English, motherfucker. Do you speak it?

BSmack wrote: The next time half the country is in a state of armed insurrection you'll have a valid point.

There might be more elements that would be destructive to Lincoln's "more perfect union" today, than in 1861. You've got multiple factions out there being monitored. White Supremecists, Black Supremecists, Islamic Radicals, even animal rights people, willing to or at least willing to discuss and plan operations that could be detrimental to .... "the union".


I'm not saying I agree or disagree. I'm stating facts.


Suspending certain rights also worked for FDR, in WWII.


It isn't without precedent, so let's stop acting like it is and pretending the BushCo's are causing all of this. They're reacting like any other leader of this nation would in time of crisis.

BSmack wrote:

Tom In VA wrote:

BSmack wrote: Yea, why don't we just suspend habeas corpus

Worked for me.

Sincerely
Abe Lincoln

The next time half the country is in a state of armed insurrection you'll have a valid point.

...are we not now in a state of insurrection? sans the arms!


sin, The Democrats

Tom In VA wrote: It isn't without precedent, so let's stop acting like it is and pretending the BushCo's are causing all of this. They're reacting like any other leader of this nation would in time of crisis.

How's the sky you little chicken?

Moving Sale wrote:

Tom In VA wrote: It isn't without precedent, so let's stop acting like it is and pretending the BushCo's are causing all of this. They're reacting like any other leader of this nation would in time of crisis.

How's the sky you little chicken?

The point I'm making is that there have been times in this country's history where leadership has decided to do things, things that on the surface went against liberty, but were overall .... seemingly good for the country and preserved it.

That's it. I'm not saying I agree or disagree.


The sky in my world is slightly overcast and they're calling for a bit of snow this evening. How's your drawers ? Shitstained as usual I'm sure.

mvscal wrote:

KatMode wrote:What Congressional legislation approved the wiretapping program to step outside the FISA oversight?

Shut the fuck up, idiot.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html ... -000-.html

What you linked up what not what I asked, dipshit. What you provided was the authorization of the President to allow wiretapping for foreign intelligence without a warrant. However, the FISA Court still has oversight over the wiretapping, whether it's done before or after the surveillance, as § 1803 & 1808 explains. So again, when did Congress approve the wiretapping program to step outside the FISA oversight?

mvscal wrote:

KatMode wrote:We don't need no stinkin' checks and balances.

Checks and balances is exactly what he is talking about.

Yup. Absolutely everything is checked by the White House. Its a matter of terra.

BSmack wrote:

Cicero wrote:Fine by me.

Yea, why don't we just suspend habeas corpus while we're at it and appoint Chimpy McDouchbag El Presidente for Life?

That's fine by us, too.

Sin,

RACK Terry.

I had previously thought it impossible to fuck up the humor in a "Sin, SissyCrown[/img]" reset...

But I didn't take Terry's presence here into account.

Crownero25 is more likely to get a date with a woman than Terry is to drop anything even remotely funny.

Far fetched idea, can't see it holding water. An off the wall opinion in my opinion.......

Damn Dins, wake up with the wrong skank this morning?

Terry's post was humorous from the standpoint that Sissy would do exactly that -- vote for suspension of the rule of law if this president says he should. I'm not too sure about the other half of the Wonder Twins, but I'm fairly certain there wouldn't be any strenuous objections to being bent over and fucked.

By the government, I mean. The obvious is a given, of course.

mvscal wrote:It is the administration's position that the President has the inherent authority to conduct foreign intelligence intercepts without reference to FISA courts. Nor is the claim without precedent.

Yeah, because we all know that power would never, ever be abused.



The administration did an about face on this one because they knew it likely would be struck down by the SC as a violation of the 1978 eavesdropping statute, imo. There's a reason for the FISA court. Doing an end run simply "because they can" is horseshit.

Jsc810 wrote:

XXXL wrote:Far fetched idea, can't see it holding water. An off the wall opinion in my opinion.......

Yeah, except it is held by the Attorney General of the United States of America. The weight of that office is huge.

Especially when Ed Meese occupied it.

That came close to an all out guffaw.

RadioFan wrote:Damn Dins, wake up with the wrong skank this morning?

Why do you hate America RF?

There is no such thing as the wrong skank. There may be good skanks (those who experience my pleasure proficiencies) and bad skanks (those unfortunate ones who have yet to experience the Dinsmachine or dumb enough to say “No” (not many of them btw)).

I can further categorize skanks by what they do in bed (or the kitchen table, stairs, back of the Subaru, bar stool, bathroom in bar, etc), but you wouldn’t really get the whole greatness of the sexual experience that is the U&R. [Dinzclone]One time at my friends bar down by the Ocean (that big body of water that helps provide us with the greatest weather on the planet, salmon the size of cougars and a drowning place for Cali transplants) this skank picked me up (literally picked up off the bathroom floor where I had passed out from a combination of things that would kill most of you) and hoisted me in the stall (turns out it was the Ladies Room, just my luck) and fucked the shit right outta me. I came and shat at the same time, good thing I was sitting on the crapper when she rode my tower of terror or this story might have been a little embarrassing. Anyway, she would be categorized as a Good Bad (in a good way) skank. Get it yet?

So yea, I’m all that and a bag of the best fucking potato chips you’ve ever had (courtesy of the U&L).

Carry on showing your complete and utter ignorance of the topic at hand.

The Whistle Is Screaming wrote:

RadioFan wrote:Damn Dins, wake up with the wrong skank this morning?

Why do you hate America RF?

There is no such thing as the wrong skank. There may be good skanks (those who experience my pleasure proficiencies) and bad skanks (those unfortunate ones who have yet to experience the Dinsmachine or dumb enough to say “No” (not many of them btw)).

I can further categorize skanks by what they do in bed (or the kitchen table, stairs, back of the Subaru, bar stool, bathroom in bar, etc), but you wouldn’t really get the whole greatness of the sexual experience that is the U&R. [Dinzclone]One time at my friends bar down by the Ocean (that big body of water that helps provide us with the greatest weather on the planet, salmon the size of cougars and a drowning place for Cali transplants) this skank picked me up (literally picked up off the bathroom floor where I had passed out from a combination of things that would kill most of you) and hoisted me in the stall (turns out it was the Ladies Room, just my luck) and fucked the shit right outta me. I came and shat at the same time, good thing I was sitting on the crapper when she rode my tower of terror or this story might have been a little embarrassing. Anyway, she would be categorized as a Good Bad (in a good way) skank. Get it yet?

So yea, I’m all that and a bag of the best fucking potato chips you’ve ever had (courtesy of the U&L).

Carry on showing your complete and utter ignorance of the topic at hand.

Rack.

Nice one TWIS!

Funny shit!

Actually, being raised and living in the only place the U&L wishes they could be.

Things like that really do happen out here.

By the way... I'm making this post from Hotel in Fresno.

Driving on ice for 2110 miles can take a while... when you're pulling 10,000 lbs.

Outstanding.

The Whistle Is Screaming wrote:

RadioFan wrote:Damn Dins, wake up with the wrong skank this morning?

Why do you hate America RF?

There is no such thing as the wrong skank. There may be good skanks (those who experience my pleasure proficiencies) and bad skanks (those unfortunate ones who have yet to experience the Dinsmachine or dumb enough to say “No” (not many of them btw)).

I can further categorize skanks by what they do in bed (or the kitchen table, stairs, back of the Subaru, bar stool, bathroom in bar, etc), but you wouldn’t really get the whole greatness of the sexual experience that is the U&R. [Dinzclone]One time at my friends bar down by the Ocean (that big body of water that helps provide us with the greatest weather on the planet, salmon the size of cougars and a drowning place for Cali transplants) this skank picked me up (literally picked up off the bathroom floor where I had passed out from a combination of things that would kill most of you) and hoisted me in the stall (turns out it was the Ladies Room, just my luck) and fucked the shit right outta me. I came and shat at the same time, good thing I was sitting on the crapper when she rode my tower of terror or this story might have been a little embarrassing. Anyway, she would be categorized as a Good Bad (in a good way) skank. Get it yet?

So yea, I’m all that and a bag of the best fucking potato chips you’ve ever had (courtesy of the U&L).

Carry on showing your complete and utter ignorance of the topic at hand.

A+

Rack TWIS ...

and Rack Tom just because.

Jsc810 wrote:

XXXL wrote:Far fetched idea, can't see it holding water. An off the wall opinion in my opinion.......

Yeah, except it is held by the Attorney General of the United States of America. The weight of that office is huge.

Word.......

RACK TF outta TWIS

Indeed.

Beautiful, bro.