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The Chinese Found....
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:29 am
by Felix
A way to render the NMD system useless that I don't think anybody had previously thought of.....
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,245119,00.html
why worry about adding countermeasures to your ICBMs when you can just blowup the National Missile Defense targeting satellites while they're in space......
so they've shown another method to beat this already archaic system that hasn't been developed yet......
somebody give me a credible argument as to why we keep pursuing this horseshit.......anybody....
National Missile Defense..........
great fucking idea......
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:39 am
by Mikey
Go fuck yourself dumbfuck.
Sin,
mvscal
Re: The Chinese Found....
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 6:33 am
by battery chucka' one
Felix wrote:A way to render the NMD system useless that I don't think anybody had previously thought of.....
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,245119,00.html
why worry about adding countermeasures to your ICBMs when you can just blowup the National Missile Defense targeting satellites while they're in space......
so they've shown another method to beat this already archaic system that hasn't been developed yet......
somebody give me a credible argument as to why we keep pursuing this horseshit.......anybody....
National Missile Defense..........
great fucking idea......
Never thought that perhaps they might be able to shoot down a missile coming toward the satellite?
Re: The Chinese Found....
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:42 pm
by Felix
battery chucka' one wrote:
Never thought that perhaps they might be able to shoot down a missile coming toward the satellite?
yeah, shooting it down....another great idea......
let me ask you a few questions:
first...are you out of your fucking mind.....
second, how long do you think it takes a missile to travel from earth to reach a target in space recoginizing that a targeting platform would be, at max about 200 to 300 miles in space.....
third, how could the US ever react quickly enough to attempt to shoot down this missile.....
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 6:07 pm
by War Wagon
Yo, Felix.
What's with the rather annoying proclivity of yours anymore to end every sentence with.......
As for them Chinks getting all uppity and stuff: They're ostensibly against the militarisation of outer space, so they demonstrate that noble goal by shooting down a satellite? Way to further your cause, dumbshits.
A nice little U.S. naval "exercise" off the coast near Shanghai or the Taiwan straights might be in order in the coming months. One carrier battlegroup should get the message across.
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:07 pm
by Felix
War Wagon wrote:Yo, Felix.
What's with the rather annoying proclivity of yours anymore to end every sentence with.......
why do you care......I don't raise objections when you pound out another of your inane "takes"....
As for them Chinks getting all uppity and stuff: They're ostensibly against the militarisation of outer space, so they demonstrate that noble goal by shooting down a satellite? Way to further your cause, dumbshits.
how dare those Chinese take steps to defend themselves.......who do they think they are anyway.....
oh and Chinks???? way to punctuate your point whitey......
A nice little U.S. naval "exercise" off the coast near Shanghai or the Taiwan straights might be in order in the coming months. One carrier battlegroup should get the message across.
I'll let you think about why this is an incredibly stupid statement.....
take all the time need and when you've figured it out, come back and let us know........
Re: The Chinese Found....
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 8:07 pm
by Mikey
Felix wrote:battery chucka' one wrote:
Never thought that perhaps they might be able to shoot down a missile coming toward the satellite?
yeah, shooting it down....another great idea......
let me ask you a few questions:
first...are you out of your fucking mind.....
second, how long do you think it takes a missile to travel from earth to reach a target in space recoginizing that a targeting platform would be, at max about 200 to 300 miles in space.....
third, how could the US ever react quickly enough to attempt to shoot down this missile.....
Exactly. It would be an interesting problem trying to figure out how to shoot down a missile travelling in a 200 - 300 mile almost vertical trajectory, and do it from 6000 miles away. That would take a pretty fast missile.
Even if you could do that what's to keep the Chinese from shooting down the missile that you're using to shoot down their missile that they are using to shoot down your satellite.
Really, though, you have to consider bco's level of intelligence when you respond to his posts. He's prolly already worked the whole thing out with Legos.
Re: The Chinese Found....
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 8:38 pm
by battery chucka' one
Mikey wrote:Felix wrote:battery chucka' one wrote:
Never thought that perhaps they might be able to shoot down a missile coming toward the satellite?
yeah, shooting it down....another great idea......
let me ask you a few questions:
first...are you out of your fucking mind.....
second, how long do you think it takes a missile to travel from earth to reach a target in space recoginizing that a targeting platform would be, at max about 200 to 300 miles in space.....
third, how could the US ever react quickly enough to attempt to shoot down this missile.....
Exactly. It would be an interesting problem trying to figure out how to shoot down a missile travelling in a 200 - 300 mile almost vertical trajectory, and do it from 6000 miles away. That would take a pretty fast missile.
Even if you could do that what's to keep the Chinese from shooting down the missile that you're using to shoot down their missile that they are using to shoot down your satellite.
Really, though, you have to consider bco's level of intelligence when you respond to his posts. He's prolly already worked the whole thing out with Legos.
Ever heard of a high intensity laser beam? They make them. They could be used to shoot down a missile. Step 1, turn on your laser. Step 2, move it around until it touches the missile. Step 3, keep it on the missile until it either a) blows the missile out of the air or b) disables the missile to the point that it crashes. These are hard ideas to grasp, I know. Perhaps you should ask your babysitter to help you with them. Just sayin'.
Re: The Chinese Found....
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 8:46 pm
by Mikey
battery chucka' one wrote:
Ever heard of a high intensity laser beam? They make them. They could be used to shoot down a missile. Step 1, turn on your laser. Step 2, move it around until it touches the missile. Step 3, keep it on the missile until it either a) blows the missile out of the air or b) disables the missile to the point that it crashes. These are hard ideas to grasp, I know. Perhaps you should ask your babysitter to help you with them. Just sayin'.
LOL.
So you get your "news" from O'Reilly and your technical knowledge from comic books.
How come I'm not surprised?
I guess we really should be worried about our "younger generation".
Do you have any idea how ridiculous what you just posted really is?
"Move it around until it touches the missile?"
BWAHAHAHAHHAH!!! My God and GOD how pathetically naive can you possibly be?
If this was even remotely feasible, how come they're not doing it right now?
You do realize that, even if the hardware were even close to being available, you have to have a line of sight to "paint" something with a laser, right? You do realize that the earth is round, right?
I guess we could put a bunch of mirrors in orbit, and use those to "move it around until it touches the missile".

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 8:49 pm
by Dr_Phibes
America: 'Space should be militarized...'
China: 'OK'
America: 'ahhhh cmon, stop it you guys!'
Re: The Chinese Found....
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 8:54 pm
by battery chucka' one
Mikey wrote:battery chucka' one wrote:
Ever heard of a high intensity laser beam? They make them. They could be used to shoot down a missile. Step 1, turn on your laser. Step 2, move it around until it touches the missile. Step 3, keep it on the missile until it either a) blows the missile out of the air or b) disables the missile to the point that it crashes. These are hard ideas to grasp, I know. Perhaps you should ask your babysitter to help you with them. Just sayin'.
LOL.
So you get your "news" from O'Reilly and your technical knowledge from comic books.
How come I'm not surprised?
I guess we really should be worried about our "younger generation".
Do you have any idea how ridiculous what you just posted really is?
"Move it around until it touches the missile?"
BWAHAHAHAHHAH!!! My God and GOD how pathetically naive can you possibly be?
If this was even remotely feasible, how come they're not doing it right now?
You do realize that, even if the hardware were even close to being available, you have to have a line of sight to "paint" something with a laser, right? You do realize that the earth is round, right?
I guess we could put a bunch of mirrors in orbit, and use those to "move it around until it touches the missile".

Perhaps the idea of radar escapes you. And, btw, how do you know that they're not doing it right now?
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 8:57 pm
by Mikey
So now you're claiming that you can shoot down missiles from 6000 miles away using radar?
Do you know of any radar that works well "over the horizon"?
I guess the saddest thing about the really terminally stupid is that it's impossible to convince them of how stupid they really are. They just don't have the minimal amount of intelligence necessary to recognize it.
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:10 pm
by battery chucka' one
Mikey wrote:So now you're claiming that you can shoot down missiles from 6000 miles away using radar?
Do you know of any radar that works well "over the horizon"?
Radar is just one example. Our troops, using satellites, can call in strikes down to the yard. But a missile coming in from several thousand miles away is unfeasable. I guess the next thing you're going to tell us is that the earth is flat. Gotcha' little sister.
I guess the biggest problem with the really terminally stupid is that it's impossible to convince them of how stupid they really are. They just don't have the minimal amount of intelligence to recognize it.
Oh, I know it. Trust me. Talking to you has made me quite aware of how pointless it gets talking to half wits.
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:21 pm
by War Wagon
Felix wrote:
why do you care......I don't raise objections when you pound out another of your inane "takes"....
I don't care. Just wondering why you choose to post like some weak minded simpleton.
how dare those Chinese take steps to defend themselves......
Speaking of inane, why the need to "defend" themselves against what is essentially a defense?
oh and Chinks???? way to punctuate your point whitey......
Aww, did the term "Chinks" make your twat bleed? Perhaps I should have used the term "Gooks" instead. Yes?
I'll let you think about why this is an incredibly stupid statement.....
take all the time need and when you've figured it out, come back and let us know........
Oh, ok.
And I'll let you think about why you're a hand-wringing pussy.
Fair enough?
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:41 pm
by Mikey
battery chucka' one wrote:Mikey wrote:So now you're claiming that you can shoot down missiles from 6000 miles away using radar?
Do you know of any radar that works well "over the horizon"?
Radar is just one example. Our troops, using satellites, can call in strikes down to the yard. But a missile coming in from several thousand miles away is unfeasable. I guess the next thing you're going to tell us is that the earth is flat. Gotcha' little sister.
I guess the biggest problem with the really terminally stupid is that it's impossible to convince them of how stupid they really are. They just don't have the minimal amount of intelligence to recognize it.
Oh, I know it. Trust me. Talking to you has made me quite aware of how pointless it gets talking to half wits.
So, now you're saying we'll have troops on the ground in China?
Oh wait, I get it now. You're trolling. Nice job.
You really had me there for awhile. You actually do know how these things work.
Re: The Chinese Found....
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:35 am
by OCmike
battery chucka' one wrote:
Ever heard of a high intensity laser beam? They make them. They could be used to shoot down a missile. Step 1, turn on your laser. Step 2, move it around until it touches the missile. Step 3, keep it on the missile until it either a) blows the missile out of the air or b) disables the missile to the point that it crashes. These are hard ideas to grasp, I know. Perhaps you should ask your babysitter to help you with them. Just sayin'.
We could always shoot it down with our "Laser".
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:47 pm
by Mikey
Not yet operational.
And I seriously doubt that this aircraft will be flying around in Chinese airspace waiting for them to launch spy satellite killing missiles.
(I didn't see anything in there about "moving it around until it touches the missile".

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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:21 pm
by Felix
mvscal wrote:
Against what?
I hope they at least sent Bubba Crintawn a thank you note for so generously providing the guidance systems that made this possible.
against the US positioning a targeting platform in space for the National Missile Defense system.....that's the way this system is designed to ultimately "work"......haven't you been paying attention.....
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:56 pm
by Felix
mvscal wrote:A purely defensive system is no threat to them.
would you categorize a missile designed to destroy a satellite an "offensive weapon"?
if so, please explain how it would be used offensively.....
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:10 pm
by Tom In VA
Satellites are a part of a communication network.
As far as I know, and I don't but I'll give it a shot, waging war involves trying to take away your opponent's ability to wage war. Destroying an opponent's ability to communicate, a necessary component in successful war waging, will therefore be an offensive manuever geared towards taking away an opponent's ability to wage war.
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:22 pm
by Felix
Tom In VA wrote:but I'll give it a shot, waging war involves trying to take away your opponent's ability to wage war.
Destroying an opponent's ability to communicate, a necessary component in successful war waging, will therefore be an offensive manuever geared towards taking away an opponent's ability to wage war.
given the criteria you've set forth, how could a targeting platform in space be considered anything but an offensive weapon......
of course that presumes the Chinese would launch an all out nuclear assault on the US which again pretty much insures that China would be wiped off the face of the planet......
mvscal wrote:
It would be used to disrupt communications and GPS equipment.
laying the ground work for the Chinese invasion of the US right....

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:47 pm
by Tom In VA
Felix wrote:
laying the ground work for the Chinese invasion of the US right....

My god damned toilet paper is probably "Made In China", now if that isn't a successful invasion, I don't know what is. We might as well all learn Cantonese, it's over.
Christ, remember Clinton's "Black Beret" fiasco ?
First, he steals the U.S. Army Rangers soft cover and distributes them to everyone. Then to add even more insult to injury, this time making sure he insults ALL members of the U.S. Army .... inside the label of the first sets of those "Black Berets" was the wonderful inscription "Made In China".
Now they're made in Vietnam probably.

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:00 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
mvscal wrote:Or concealing preparations for a re-patriation of Taiwan.
FTFY-NC
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:50 am
by Felix
mvscal wrote:Or concealing preparations for an invasion of Taiwan.

:lol:
so they start sending missiles to destory our satellites under the guise of "secretly" invading Taiwan.......

:lol:
damn dude you must be butter cause your on a roll......
continue.......
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:07 am
by War Wagon
Felix wrote:mvscal wrote:Or concealing preparations for an invasion of Taiwan.

:lol:
damn dude, you see boogie men everywhere......
If you don't see China invading Taiwan as a very real threat, you haven't a clue of what the situation is. It would have happened long before now without U.S. support.
It
will happen if they detect one bit of ill-resolve on the part of America.
If we cede Taiwan, how long before they go after Japan?
This isn't about boogie men, fool. It's about a sphere of influence and strategic power. If you doubt that this very real scenario can happen, then you haven't paid any attention whatsoever to your history books.
ps: Nice job completely changing your post around
after I captured the original wording. Make up your mind the first time what you want to say before mashing submit and then having second thoughts. Not that it would matter. You'd still look ignorant.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:38 pm
by Felix
War Wagon wrote:It's about a sphere of influence and strategic power.
actually it's about National Missile Defense......
mvscal seems to think the Chinese are going to start blowing US satellites out of the sky as a prelude to invading Taiwan secretly.......of course anyone with an IQ over 50 knows that destroying a US satellite would constitute and act of WAR.....
anything else you know nothing about you'd like to discuss......
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:58 pm
by Mikey
Can't we get back to the main topic:
How fucking ignorant can bco possibly be?
Actually, I think the Chinese mainly did this to prove to themselves, along with everybody else, that they could actually do it. The US and Russia both did it once and then agreed not to continue. It's to nobody's advantage, including the Chinese, to start creating debris fields in low earth orbit. They want to be able to exploit space for commercial purposes as much as everybody else does.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:30 pm
by Felix
mvscal wrote:
You asked for a potential offensive use for anti-satellite missiles, shitstain.
yeah, the Chinese are going to initiate an act of war against the US as a prelude to a secret invasion of Taiwan.......
keep digging pal, eventually you'll reach Bejing.......
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:23 am
by War Wagon
Felix wrote:
actually it's about National Missile Defense......
Oh really?
And here I thought it was more about the Chinese "just having the right to defend themselves" (your words) against a purely defensive technology.
I reckon that you haven't quite explained that, so indeed, there's something else we can discuss.
Or, you can just admit that you know nothing about this topic that you started and bail.
Dumbfuck.
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:10 am
by Mister Bushice
Mikey wrote: It's to nobody's advantage, including the Chinese, to start creating debris fields in low earth orbit. They want to be able to exploit space for commercial purposes as much as everybody else does.
If for nothing else, then this would suffice. Perhaps the Chinese have realized a well aimed offense is just as good as a half ass defense.
We will all soon be so dependent on satellites for all of our global communications needs that no one would be fool enough to take out billions of dollars worth of technology just for the slight
possibility of getting over on another country unscathed.
I don't see the chinese pulling anything, However that does not preclude the insane muslims from trying something destructively stupid.
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:01 pm
by smackaholic
Does somebody here think that taking out satelites will render ICBMs useless? What dumb shits. Did it occur to you that we got this thing called inertial navigation. WE been working on it for 50 years give or take a few. They have it. They do not need a satelite to tell them where the fukk to go.
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:02 pm
by Felix
smackaholic wrote:Does somebody here think that taking out satelites will render ICBMs useless?
are you following along here or just trolling.....