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The global warming trend is self-evident

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:46 am
by War Wagon
Meanwhile, it's 12 degrees here right now and supposed to drop more ovenight. This after one one of the hardest winters around these parts in a long time. For christs sake, it's the middle of Feb. already.

Enough!

Global warming my skinny, white ASS. I wants me some global warming, at least my little section of it. I hope that both polar ice caps melt and flood you socals enjoying 70 degree temps right now all the way into New fucking Mexico someday. Who's going to be laughing then, huh? Fuckers.

Fuck it. I'm moving to Kathmandu. It never snows there.

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Kathmandu gets first snowfall in 63 years Wed Feb 14, 1:07 PM ET

KATHMANDU (Reuters) - Snow fell on Nepal's capital, Kathmandu, for the first time in 63 years on Wednesday, stirring excitement and curiosity among residents and their children.

"I have never seen it snow in Kathmandu in all my life," said 45-year-old housewife Manju Shrestha, playing in the snow with her young children.

Weather officials said the brief snowfall, which lasted only a few minutes, was the result of a "westerly disturbance" over Nepal that earlier in the week caused heavy rains.

Though the Himalayan country is home to Mount Everest, Kathmandu, with a population of 1.5 million people, is situated in a valley and has not had snow since January 1944, according to Independent Kantipur television.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:56 am
by OCmike
You forget, the global warming honks claim that it also causes unusually harsh weather patterns even in the winter so that they can claim that they're always right.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:11 am
by War Wagon
OCmike wrote:You forget, the global warming honks claim that it also causes unusually harsh weather patterns even in the winter so that they can claim that they're always right.
Oh, so that's The Inconvenient Truth, huh?

If it's ok with those honks, I'd like to order me up some nice, convenient fallacy to shovel my goddamn driveway and pay my heating bill.

Re: The global warming trend is self-evident

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:18 am
by KC Scott
War Wagon wrote: This after one one of the hardest winters around these parts in a long time.
uhhhh..... Dave

It was 50 degrees for most of December.

Except for the November Ice storm, It's didn't turn cold until the second week of January.

You must be getting old or something.

:lol:

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:19 am
by Wolfman
SW FL is currently filled with a large number
of people escaping from the effects of global warming
back north !!

we love their money---keeps my taxes low-- too
bad there isn't some way they could just mail it in !!

Re: The global warming trend is self-evident

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:23 am
by War Wagon
KC Scott wrote:It's didn't turn cold until the second week of January.
Yes, and it's stayed bone chilling cold now for a solid month. Tell me when you've ever seen it get this cold this late in February. This is middle of January weather right now, and it sucks.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:23 am
by KC Scott
Wolfman wrote:SW FL is currently filled with a large number
of people escaping from the effects of global warming
back north !!

we love their money---keeps my taxes low-- too
bad there isn't some way they could just mail it in !!
And within a few years, SW FL will be filled with a large number
of people escaping the effects of Life
on Earth!!

Funeral directors love their money---makes the grass grow--too
bad there isn't some way they could just die now !!

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:25 am
by Dinsdale
OCmike wrote:You forget, the global warming honks claim that it also causes unusually harsh weather patterns even in the winter so that they can claim that they're always right.

I always get a good laugh at the expense of morons who know NOTHING about even the most rudimentary concepts of climatology offering up...anything.


Uhm..."convection" mean anything to you? You know...how that whole planet "tilts" and stuff? Uhm...how the Southern Hemisphere is breaking temerature records while it's winter here?

Hello?

People who don't understand the concept of "READING A THERMOMETER," and are at a loss as to how that works = NEVER not funny.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:39 am
by War Wagon
Dinsdale wrote: I always get a good laugh at the expense of morons who know NOTHING about even the most rudimentary concepts of climatology offering up...anything.

Uhm..."convection" mean anything to you? You know...how that whole planet "tilts" and stuff? Uhm...how the Southern Hemisphere is breaking temerature records while it's winter here?
At least this moron can spell temperature before bashing the submit button.

I always get a good a good laugh out of some spelling and punctuation geek tripping over his own dick.

Classic :dins:

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:54 am
by OCmike
Dinsdale wrote: I always get a good laugh at the expense of morons who know NOTHING about even the most rudimentary concepts of climatology offering up...anything.
Right on que, the local global warming "expert" :dins: shows up to claim no one knows what they're talking about except for him. What a maroon.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:07 am
by Dinsdale
So, Whitey...does it make you feel any dumber (if that's even possible) that my spelling and grammar runs circles around yours (and almost everyone else's here) without proofreading?

Additionally -- do you feel stupid for not knowing the difference between a typo and a spelling error?


And hey...you'll never guess what profession I wanted to go into as an adolescent? I'll give you a hint -- it might have been meteorology. Just might be an area I've studied more than most.


Learning is a wonderful thing...I'd suggest that you try it, but the reason many of you are tards, is for this very reason...you struggle mightily with that whole "learning" thing.


Sucks to be you.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:09 am
by Dinsdale
OCmike wrote:claim no one knows what they're talking about except for him. What a maroon.

I made no such claim.

I did however claim, quite correctly might I add, that YOU don't know what you're talking about, a fact you've proven quite well.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:38 am
by War Wagon
Dinsdale wrote: And hey...you'll never guess what profession I wanted to go into as an adolescent? I'll give you a hint -- it might have been meteorology.
And then you went all Timothy O'Leary.

'sall raight mang. Lots of people have their dreams shattered at an early age.

You know Dins, I enjoy reading your stuff. I appreciate the effort that you put forth on a daily basis to make this an interesting and readable board. I must confess, I'm drawn to your posts like a moth to flame, but dude. You are one arrogant sumbitch.

It's cold. I'm cold. My dogs are cold. Just sayin, I don't buy this global warming song and dance routine. It's fine if you do, but I don't live in Australia, so could you like save your speil for July or August?

TIA

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:11 am
by DallasFanatic
Is it not supposed to be 80 degrees during the middle of February?

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:14 am
by XXXL
My concerns revolve around existing world class surf spots that could go away if sea levels rise. I hope the pundits are wrong, lots of waves that need to stay around...

My 2 cents.......

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:43 am
by OCmike
Dinsdale wrote:
I made no such claim.
Claim/imply, blah blah blah.
I did however claim, quite correctly might I add, that YOU don't know what you're talking about, a fact you've proven quite well.
So global warming honks DON'T claim every odd weather pattern is a result of man-induced gw? Might want to mix in a non-U&L newspaper.

Speaking of news... Dropping "convection" in a thread like it's a big word and thumping your chest about topics that you studied at length during puberty :bwahaha: does not make you an authority on the subject. Until you get a "Dr." in front of your name, I'll continue to get my reliable gw information from people who aren't whining about carbon dioxide levels and holes in the ozone just to get their grants funded for another year and didn't get their opinions from perusing Encyclopedia Britannica on their free period during the 7th grade.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:36 am
by Tom In VA
Still not sure about global warming and more importantly man's cause of it and even more importantly what the hell we can do about it.

But to say it's NOT happening because it happens to be cold AT THE MOMENT sounds like standing on the beach and saying ....

"What do you mean tsunami, the water's receding, see".

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:44 pm
by Ace
OCmike wrote:You forget, the global warming honks claim that it also causes unusually harsh weather patterns even in the winter so that they can claim that they're always right.
Thats the great thing about global warming: it can be whatever you want it to be. Too cold, too hot, too many storms, not enough storms, ect... Its a very [homo sounding lisp] inclusive [/homo sounding lisp] "crisis"

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:45 pm
by Jay in Phoenix
Dinsdale wrote:So, Whitey...does it make you feel any dumber (if that's even possible) that my spelling and grammar runs circles around yours (and almost everyone else's here) without proofreading? Additionally -- do you feel stupid for not knowing the difference between a typo and a spelling error?
Really Spinsdale, really? So now your (sic) claiming typos are the reason for you're (sic) barbaric (barbaric is correct) spelling? Guess you just can't adjust to changes in temerature, huh?
Disnpot wrote:And hey...you'll never guess what profession I wanted to go into as an adolescent? I'll give you a hint -- it might have been meteorology. Just might be an area I've studied more than most.
So you wanted to be a burgeoning Brick Tamlin? Do you also like lamp? Do you like desk?
Dinskettle wrote:Learning is a wonderful thing...I'd suggest that you try it, but the reason many of you are tards, is for this very reason...you struggle mightily with that whole "learning" thing.
Kind of like you struggle with that whole "lying" thing. Oh wait, you have that nailed. Never mind.

Once again, with feeling. Dinspot, meet Dinskettle.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:06 pm
by Felix
e wrote:
War Wagon wrote:My dogs are cold.
actually, the temperature six feet under stays pretty constant all year long.
:lol::lol:

Re: The global warming trend is self-evident

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:51 pm
by BSmack
KC Scott wrote:
War Wagon wrote: This after one one of the hardest winters around these parts in a long time.
uhhhh..... Dave

It was 50 degrees for most of December.

Except for the November Ice storm, It's didn't turn cold until the second week of January.

You must be getting old or something.

:lol:
Yep, pretty much the same here.

I'm struggling to remember a really cold January. Has to have been at least 4-5 years. I know my buddies in the snow plowing business are mad as hell about the past 4 winters. Not a one of them has been worth a damn, this one included.

Re: The global warming trend is self-evident

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:32 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
BSmack wrote:I know my buddies in the snow plowing business are mad as hell about the past 4 winters. Not a one of them has been worth a damn, this one included.
The last few days have probably been pretty good for them, though.

Sin,

Car got stuck in the driveway but too cheap to pay someone to plow.

Re: The global warming trend is self-evident

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:56 pm
by BSmack
Terry in Crapchester wrote:
BSmack wrote:I know my buddies in the snow plowing business are mad as hell about the past 4 winters. Not a one of them has been worth a damn, this one included.
The last few days have probably been pretty good for them, though.

Sin,

Car got stuck in the driveway but too cheap to pay someone to plow.
They won't make up for December and January. We would need another two solid weeks of this to make up for that. And that ain't happening.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:53 pm
by Mikey
OCmike wrote:
So global warming honks DON'T claim every odd weather pattern is a result of man-induced gw? Might want to mix in a non-U&L newspaper.
No, they don't. At least not the scientists or anybody else who has any knowledge of the subject. You might want to try reading up on it yourself.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:08 pm
by Dinsdale
Mikey...you need to bear in mind that you're dealing with a guy who apparently gets all of his "scientific info" from right-wing AM radio.

You'll notice he all of a sudden refutes my statements with "oh, it's MAN-MADE global warming," even though I made no such mention.

Tards such as this base science on politics.


Nevermind that ALL weather patterns are a result of convection. Nevermind that the only "debate" about global warming itself is by right-wing radio hacks, who for some reason have lost faith in man's ability to READ A THERMOMETER.


With these brain-dead puppets, all a person has to do is mention "global warming," and the unintentional comedy soon follows. Since they don't believe in human-caused warming, which any open-minded person will tell you that the jury is still out on, and there's far, far too little evidence to make a concrete determination one way or the other, when the subject of warming comes up, they attempt to discredit the EVIL THERMOMETER.


Nevermind that whole "convection" dealio, which commons sense dictates will cause a greater draw of cold polar air towards a hotter-than-"normal" air mass somewhere else...just remember, there's absolutely no room for common sense in this debate...it's clearly about Us vs. Them, and don't try and tell them otherwise.

It's a liberal-conspiracy...they're probably sitting there with lighters, heating up those evil thermometers.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:13 pm
by Mikey
Apparently there are a lot of people who can't come to terms with the difference between short term local weather patterns and long term global average temperature increase. Or they don't want to because then they would have no basis to ridicule those who have actually researched the subject.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:32 pm
by RadioFan
Dinsdale wrote:Uhm...how the Southern Hemisphere is breaking temerature records while it's winter here?
You mean it's warm in Australia and South America this time of year? We thought it was winter.

- T1B's climate and geography experts.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:43 pm
by Mikey
A guy from my office went to Vienna and Innsbruck, Australia for Christmas and New Years. He said there was almost no snow in the Alps.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:47 pm
by Dinsdale
Only an 8-9 foot base at the Mt Hood ski resorts...pretty low for this time of year. Raining like a beyotch there right now, so only going to shrink the base.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:00 pm
by Mikey
mvscal wrote:
Mikey wrote:A guy from my office went to Vienna and Innsbruck, Australia for Christmas and New Years. He said there was almost no snow in the Alps.
They have Alps in Australia? It's summer there now anyway.
No wonder there wasn't much snow.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:08 pm
by BSmack
mvscal wrote:
Mikey wrote:A guy from my office went to Vienna and Innsbruck, Australia for Christmas and New Years. He said there was almost no snow in the Alps.
They have Alps in Australia?
Not to get in the way of good spelling smack. But yes, they do.

http://www.australianalps.deh.gov.au/

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:09 pm
by KC Scott
Mikey wrote:A guy from my office went to Vienna and Innsbruck, Australia for Christmas and New Years.
Did he see the Snowboarding Koala's?

They rock

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:10 pm
by BSmack
KC Scott wrote:
Mikey wrote:A guy from my office went to Vienna and Innsbruck, Australia for Christmas and New Years.
Did he see the Snowboarding Koala's?

They rock
I don't think Koala live there. But you can see smoky mouse, broad-toothed rat, powerful owl, spotted tree frog and she-oak skinks.

But be careful. They're threatened species mate.

http://www.australianalps.deh.gov.au/parks/alpine.html

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:23 pm
by Mikey
Crikey!! Neither did we, mate.

Image

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:25 pm
by OCmike
Dinsdale wrote:Mikey...you need to bear in mind that you're dealing with a guy who apparently gets all of his "scientific info" from right-wing AM radio.
A swing and a miss. I listen to Sirius Satellite Radio and get my news from either CNN or BBC International.

I know you lefties love to paint everyone who disagrees with you on any topic as a dittohead, but I'd rather listen to my iPod any day over that blowhard. I probably tune him in for about 15 minutes a year, or just long enough to remember why I don't listen to him, and turn it to something else. He had a reasonably entertaining show (even when I did disagree with him) about ten or fifteen years ago. Not coincidentally, that's probably about the time he started chopping and snorting oxycontin. No, I don't listen to Michael Reagan or Michael Savage either. Did I miss anyone?

The last time I listened to polical radio was before I bought Sirius two years ago in Dec and it was to these guys: John and ken. If you want to label them as anything, they're pretty much middle of the road libertarians. They slam Republicans and Democrats alike, unlike pretty much every other politcal radio show on the planet.
dinsdale wrote:You'll notice he all of a sudden refutes my statements with "oh, it's MAN-MADE global warming," even though I made no such mention.

Tards such as this base science on politics.
Who gives a fuck if you brought it up, fuckface? I was specifying what I was referring to since I realized that I was too general in my first posts in the thread.

Dinsdale wrote:Nevermind that ALL weather patterns are a result of convection. Nevermind that the only "debate" about global warming itself is by right-wing radio hacks, who for some reason have lost faith in man's ability to READ A THERMOMETER.
Thanks for the 7th grade science lesson, Zitsdale. Congratulations, you have the same understanding of climatology as a standard 13 y/o. Now go scrub your face with a Stridex.

Dinsdale wrote:With these brain-dead puppets, all a person has to do is mention "global warming," and the unintentional comedy soon follows. Since they don't believe in human-caused warming, which any open-minded person will tell you that the jury is still out on, and there's far, far too little evidence to make a concrete determination one way or the other...
Personally, I also think that the jury is still out on human-caused global warming. I think that it's naive to think that we would have no effect on the environment as an industrialized planet, but also think that those at the opposite end of the spectrum (read: Al Gore) are naive themselves to think that we as humans could cause so much change in so short a period of time. "The Day After Tomorrow" was just a movie... It will take decades to study and ultimately find the truth. In the end we'll probably find out that the truth lay somewhere in the middle and that honks on both ends of the spectrum were just whining in order to get publicity, money or both.
dinsdale wrote:when the subject of warming comes up, they attempt to discredit the EVIL THERMOMETER.
Actually to some degree, the "evil thermometer" can be discredited due to the Urban Heat Island effect. As cities have grown larger and larger, the average temperature must rise as more heat is absorbed by asphalt and steel and less is reflected back into the atmosphere. The problem is that most cities have been taking temperature readings from the same stations at the same locations for decades. As the cities grow, it's only natural to assume that these temperature will climb some due to the UHI and not completely due to global warming, whether man-made or otherwise.

Since I know you're undoubtedly a UHI expert :bwa: and are falling all over yourself to bang out a reply about how UHI is complete and utter bullshit... From what I've read on the subject, those on the left and those looking to score gov't $$ for their studies tend to discount UHI too much, while those on the right tend to point to it as a cause too heavily. Again, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Now go take your ritalyn.

Dinsdale wrote:Nevermind that whole "convection" dealio, which commons sense dictates will cause a greater draw of cold polar air towards a hotter-than-"normal" air mass somewhere else...just remember, there's absolutely no room for common sense in this debate...it's clearly about Us vs. Them, and don't try and tell them otherwise.

It's a liberal-conspiracy...they're probably sitting there with lighters, heating up those evil thermometers.
It is Us vs. Them, you fucking idiot. It's Us (the taxpayers/consumers) vs. Them (agenda-driven politicans and scientists). If they're going to essentially fabricate conclusions by substituting words like "possibly", "likely", and "probably" for "definitely" and acting like they mean the same thing when referring to man-made greenhouse gases and emissions, which will ultimately cause me to pay a higher price for goods, services and waste my tax dollars on redundant and unnecessary studies, then you're fucking-a right it's Us vs. Them.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:29 pm
by BSmack
^^^^^^^^ OC Mike, the original :dins:

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:41 pm
by OCmike
BSmack wrote:^^^^^^^^ OC Mike, the original :dins:
RACK me for returning to my verbose roots. :D

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:31 am
by War Wagon
Meanwhile, it's 6 degrees here.

Global warming honks can go fuck themselves, I want to punch them in the face.

Hell, I want to punch a bunch of you cunts in the face... except OC Mike.

Rack the old school effort.

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:33 am
by RadioFan
War Wagon wrote:Rack the old school effort.
OK.

RACK WW getting his ass kicked, again.

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:44 am
by RadioFan
Wags,

Using your logic, there were absolutely no tornadoes in May 2005 in Oklahoma, therefore, this whole notion about tornadoes in Oklahoma is all a bunch of bullshit.