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30 years ago today...







For you youngsters that are to young to remember this guy... he was looked at the same way Peyton Manning was when he was coming out of college.

What a tragic loss to his family and friends, and all football fans in general.



What a player and what an offense they had...

Bolstered by running back Chuck Muncie and receivers Wesley Walker and Steve Rivera, Cal led the nation in total offense that year by averaging exactly the same yardage totals rushing and passing.

Joe Roth, it seems, might have been Joe Montana a few years before Joe Montana became Joe Montana.

Roth earned All-America honors. There was speculation he might go No. 1 in the NFL draft.

Chuck Muncie wrote:"He would have been as good as any quarterback who played the game. His poise, his ability to pick up an offense, the guy had the skills.''

Here's a 6 minute video which combines a Keith Jackson piece with some other footage. The piano composition is by Jon Matlock, Joe's former roommate.

Joe Roth

1975 - UCLA 28 Cal 14

1976 - UCLA 35 Cal 19

1977 - UCLA 21 Cal 19



We liked Joe Roth

Hence, the reason that there's no mention of this guy anywhere outside of Cal-dom.

the_ouskull

The Seer wrote:1975 - UCLA 28 Cal 14

1976 - UCLA 35 Cal 19

1977 - UCLA 21 Cal 19



We liked Joe Roth

Only a Bruin would claim victory over a guy that was dead for a year... very classy as usual baby bear.

the_ouskull wrote:Hence, the reason that there's no mention of this guy anywhere outside of Cal-dom.

the_ouskull

OU fan may have heard of this guy?

Here's what he thought of Joe Roth.

Barry Switzer wrote: "Roth is the Best I've faced as a coach. None of the others had such a quick delivery with such a great arm while throwing such a soft ball--all of his should be caught."

420 wrote:

Barry Switzer wrote: "Roth is the Best I've faced as a coach. None of the others had such a quick delivery with such a great arm while throwing such a soft ball--all of his should be caught."

A coach usually says something positive about the other team after a poor performance against a nobody.

BTW...
OU 28
Kal 17


Ps. 13-9 record isnt montana like

he won one and lost one vs USC but Im sure the cubs had more first downs and longer TOP so Im sure feCal fan will claim them both as epic Berkley triumps over the spoiled little rich kids at the inner city school

1976 (5-6)
18 INT
7 TD
1789 Yds
52.2% completion percentage

1975 (8-3)
7 INT
14 TD
1880 Yds
55.8% completion Percentage
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Career (13-9)
25 INT
21 TD
3669 yds
54% completion percentage

hey its a sad story and im sure it helps to get the alumni to open their pocket books, but lets not get all crazy and stuff!

peter dragon wrote:1976 (5-6)
18 INT
7 TD
1789 Yds
52.2% completion percentage

1975 (8-3)
7 INT
14 TD
1880 Yds
55.8% completion Percentage
----------------------------------------------
Career (13-9)
25 INT
21 TD
3669 yds
54% completion percentage

hey its a sad story and im sure it helps to get the alumni to open their pocket books, but lets not get all crazy and stuff!

In fairness to Roth, the rules back then were not nearly as QB-friendly as they are today, so stats don't tell the whole story, certainly not by today's standards.

Many consider Unitas and Staubach to be among the best QB's of all-time. But if you compare their stats to today's QB's, their stats are horrible.

That having been said, I hesitate to say he would have been another Montana. Ultimately, QB's are judged in large part on their teams' won-lost records. Roth's record at Cal isn't comparable to Montana's, even if you restrict the analysis to Montana at ND. And as m2 pointed out, Roth did have some talent around him.

420 wrote:30 years ago today...




For you youngsters that are to young to remember this guy... he was looked at the same way Peyton Manning was when he was coming out

He does look a little light in the loafers.

It says here that he died of melanoma or carcinoma or some kind of a noma.

peter dragon wrote:1976 (5-6)
18 INT
7 TD
1789 Yds
52.2% completion percentage

1975 (8-3)
7 INT
14 TD
1880 Yds
55.8% completion Percentage
----------------------------------------------
Career (13-9)
25 INT
21 TD
3669 yds
54% completion percentage

Damn. Chris Rix wouldve been a god at kal.

^^^^^^^

and Dan Kendra...whatever happened to him?

Mr T wrote:

420 wrote:

Barry Switzer wrote: "Roth is the Best I've faced as a coach. None of the others had such a quick delivery with such a great arm while throwing such a soft ball--all of his should be caught."

A coach usually says something positive about the other team after a poor performance against a nobody.

BTW...
OU 28
Kal 17


Ps. 13-9 record isnt montana like

this is at least the second time the Roth info and particularly the Switzer quote have appeared on the board. if not more. nothing against Roth, but at that point Switzer was 33-1-1 as a HC 1 game into 1976 (his first middling team: losses to CU, OSU, and a tie with UT, eventually 9-2-1). the single loss to KU (75) who was QB'd by future NFL DB Nolan Cromwell and the tie against USC (73), 7-7 at the Colosseum with Pat Haden at QB.

So, Barry may have been feeling pretty generous, or to Roth's credit, he just hadn't seen anyone impress against the 74-75 defensive teams which averaged 5 takeaways per game. or: as Miami (Vinny et al.), Stanford (Elway), and W. Virginia (Hoss) were later able to demonstrate.....the forward pass was always a little bit mysterious to the OU staff in the 70's and 80's. to paraphrase an old adage, from going to games with my pops i thought "gawddamnit" was DC coach Bobby Proctor's real first name.

Just curious, did Switzer make the comment after Roth's death or before? I would guess after. And not even Barrah would be ass enough to piss on someone's grave, sans Darrel Royal.

Mr T wrote:

peter dragon wrote:1976 (5-6)
18 INT
7 TD
1789 Yds
52.2% completion percentage

1975 (8-3)
7 INT
14 TD
1880 Yds
55.8% completion Percentage
----------------------------------------------
Career (13-9)
25 INT
21 TD
3669 yds
54% completion percentage

Damn. Chris Rix wouldve been a god at kal.

Rix would have been good under Richt.

King Crimson wrote:to paraphrase an old adage, from going to games with my pops i thought "gawddamnit" was DC coach Bobby Proctor's real first name.

I spent four years in the Navy. I thought that was the first name of most of the people with whom I served.

And btw, I ought to forewarn you about since you posted

old adage

One of his "grammatical" pet peeves (although the error is in redundancy, not grammar). Just sayin'.

420 wrote:
1977 - UCLA 21 Cal 19



We liked Joe Roth

Only a Bruin would claim victory over a guy that was dead for a year... very classy as usual baby bear.

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Hmmm. Too bad....That was the closest score of the bunch....

Terry in Crapchester wrote:

King Crimson wrote:to paraphrase an old adage, from going to games with my pops i thought "gawddamnit" was DC coach Bobby Proctor's real first name.

I spent four years in the Navy. I thought that was the first name of most of the people with whom I served.

And btw, I ought to forewarn you about since you posted

old adage

One of his "grammatical" pet peeves (although the error is in redundancy, not grammar). Just sayin'.

Dins is OK with me, but it matters to me not. it's a message board. . the real mistake is saying Proctor was the DC, he was the DBackfield coach. basically just a typo.

buckeye_in_sc wrote:^^^^^^^

and Dan Kendra...whatever happened to him?

^^^^^
Why you following me around with ^^^^^ posts?


BTW, Kendra was injured in the preseason of 1998 and became a fullback the next year. I think he is now a navy seal or something. Dude was crazy. Wasnt afraid of anything.

Cicero wrote:

Mr T wrote: Damn. Chris Rix wouldve been a god at kal.

Rix would have been good under Richt.

I said god not good, moron. And no, rix wouldnt have.

Kendra? I remember when he used to post here. He got smacked around alot.