T1B

Posted: **Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:36 pm**

I'm actually reasonably decent at algebra and that sort of thing, but I'm getting my ass kicked today. I applied for a data analyst job in Austin, kicked ass on the phone interview and the guy said he just wanted to send me a math test to make sure I had some basic problem solving skeelz. I got every one with no problem, except for this one:

A leopard spots a deer from a distance of 200 meters. As the leopard starts chasing the deer, the deer also starts running. Given that the speed of the deer is 10 km/h and that of the leopard is 12 km/h, how far would have the deer run before it is caught?

3 km
4 km
2 km
1 km
5 km

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Serious replies only, please. :D

Posted: **Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:40 pm**

1 km

In six minutes the deer will have run 1 km (1000 m) and the leopard 1.2 km (1200 m), making up the 200 meter difference.

Posted: **Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:40 pm**

The leopard has a very fat leopard wife at home, and thus, has lost all it's will to live.

It will never catch the deer.

The deer will make it home in time to catch Sean Hannity, and beat it's kids.

Posted: **Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:41 pm**

Goober McTuber wrote:1 km

yep....

Posted: **Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:45 pm**

Thanks, guys. My brain is just fried after all of these fucking word problems. Here's another from the test:

The social services office is just about to run out of foodstamps and only has enough for one more applicant. Rakeisha, a 400lb mother of six begins waddling towards the window at a rate of 0.2 MPH. LaToya, an 80lb crackhead with scabs on her face and atrophied muscles in her legs begins moving towards the window at 0.1 MPH, but has a four foot head start. Who will get the government handout?

A. LaKeisha, after she intimidates the social worker by saying, "Bit*ch betta have mah money!"
B. LaToya, since Rakeisha got busted for using her sister's newborn to try to qualify for WIC
C. Neither, because there is an illegal immigrant in line, who takes precedence over any American
D. None of the above(A white supremacist bursts through the wall and mows them all down with his Dodge pickup, saving us all untold thousands in taxes).

Posted: **Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:49 pm**

you know it's C, but one could hope for D.....

Posted: **Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:50 pm**

Remind the dude we're not on the metric system yet but if those are the customer's requirements you're going to have pass that down to the development team and dbas.

This will solidify your chances for the job as units of measurement issues have fouled up many a software project.

Glad I could help.

Posted: **Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:00 pm**

those leopards and deer are mighty slow
for their species--
just sayin'

Posted: **Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:01 pm**

Felix wrote:you know it's C, but one could hope for D.....

Word.

HBJ wrote:Remind the dude we're not on the metric system yet but if those are the customer's requirements you're going to have pass that down to the development team and dbas.

This will solidify your chances for the job as units of measurement issues have fouled up many a software project.

Glad I could help.

This isn't a software programming job, it's more of a data mining job. Not quite as interesting as the former, but at least it's in the Healthcare IT industry and not just a bland IT job.

BTW, the dude just called to schedule an interview for Monday and said, "To be perfectly honest, I'm really not that concerned how you do on the test, based on what I'm seeing on your resume." Then why the fuck did you send it, fuckface?! I'm fine with basic algebra that involves solving for 2x+5/7X-4=0 or whatever, but word problems frequently cause my brain to fry.

Take this one for example:

It takes 16 days for 48 women to complete a job that requires 16 men to complete in 24 days. 12 men initiate the work and after 14 days, 12 women join them. How many days will they together take to complete the job?

12
21
6
24
16

Or this one:

Paul, Quallis and Robert divide a sum of money among themselves in the ratio 2:3:7. Find the share of Paul if the total share of Paul and Quallis together is $1500 less than that of Robert.

2000
1200
1400
2500
1500

I figured both out, but was considering going Brad Delp and firing up two BBQ's in the bathroom there for awhile.

Posted: **Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:13 pm**

He needs to know your math skills because when you "mine" the data from datawarehouse or data mart and produce results .... the people whose data you're reporting on ... aren't going to like it.

Then his team will have to justify that the numbers are correct, because they accurately reflect the available data. Then, for sake of argument, "sales" is going to say again "No way those numbers are correct". Pissing matches will ensue, people will get fired and other quit, and as more and more flaws are exposed in the business processes and the data quality in the OLTP systems ......

You'll be wishing you were watching t.v. by the waterfront again.

Good Luck OCMike, I wish you the best.

Posted: **Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:18 pm**

If they just worded the questions a little differently OCMike would probably have a much easier time. Something like:

If OCMike had 2 kilos of righteous Columbian blow and wanted to keep 1 gram of uncut kine out of each ounce for personal stash, how much baby laxative would he have to purchase at $75/oz to cut into the 2 kilos and still make a 900% profit?

You see, this involves unit conversions, currency and percentages all in one problem

Posted: **Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:19 pm**

Oh, I completely understand why he wants to know my math skills, I was just irritated that he sent me the test and then said he didn't care how I fared on it. I've got better things to do with my time right now....wait, I can't back that up...okay, I've got other things that I'd rather do with my time.

I'm fine with the algebra-type questions, it was mostly just the ratio ones that were pissing me off. I've always sucked at ratios, unless it's something simple, like "If BSmack and Dinsdale post at a ratio of 3:2 and they have 60,000 posts between them, how many posts does Dinsdale have?"

Thanks for the well-wishes. The job sounds like a good fit.

Posted: **Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:20 pm**

Those two are pretty easy, actually.

OCmike wrote:Take this one for example:

It takes 16 days for 48 women to complete a job that requires 16 men to complete in 24 days. 12 men initiate the work and after 14 days, 12 women join them. How many days will they together take to complete the job?

12
21
6
24
16

If it takes 16 men 24 days to complete a job, then it should take 12 men 32 days to complete the same job. After 14 days, they would have had 18 days left to complete the job. At that time they were joined by the same number of women who collectively worked half as fast as the men. 18/1.5=12.

Or this one:

Paul, Quallis and Robert divide a sum of money among themselves in the ratio 2:3:7. Find the share of Paul if the total share of Paul and Quallis together is $1500 less than that of Robert.

2000
1200
1400
2500
1500

I figured both out, but was considering going Brad Delp and firing up two BBQ's in the bathroom there for awhile.

The ratio of Paul + Quallis to Robert is 5:7, a difference of two. If 2 = $1,500, then Paul's share, which is also 2, also equals $1,500.

Posted: **Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:23 pm**

^^^^^^ "look at the big brain on brad"

Posted: **Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:30 pm**

Terry in Crapchester wrote:Those two are pretty easy, actually.

OCmike wrote:Take this one for example:

It takes 16 days for 48 women to complete a job that requires 16 men to complete in 24 days. 12 men initiate the work and after 14 days, 12 women join them. How many days will they together take to complete the job?

12
21
6
24
16
If it takes 16 men 24 days to complete a job, then it should take 12 men 32 days to complete the same job. After 14 days, they would have had 18 days left to complete the job. At that time they were joined by the same number of women who collectively worked half as fast as the men. 18/1.5=12.

How do you arrive at the 32 days figure when the number of men are decreased by 25%. Wouldn't it then take them 25% longer (30 days total) to complete the job?

The ratio of Paul + Quallis to Robert is 5:7, a difference of two. If 2 = $1,500, then Paul's share, which is also 2, also equals $1,500.

See? I fucking hate ratios. I got this one, but just used the answers to work backwards. :D

Posted: **Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:37 pm**

This reminds me of the old timey OC Mike humpday challenges..rack the emu

Posted: **Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:49 pm**

Yeah, I used to enjoy doing those. Got to be too hard coming up with new questions. I'll probably start it up again at some point.

Here's the whole test if anyone wants to give it a shot:

http://www.gmatbuster.org/gmat_ps.htm

Posted: **Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:53 pm**

OCmike wrote:
Terry in Crapchester wrote:Those two are pretty easy, actually.

OCmike wrote:Take this one for example:

It takes 16 days for 48 women to complete a job that requires 16 men to complete in 24 days. 12 men initiate the work and after 14 days, 12 women join them. How many days will they together take to complete the job?

12
21
6
24
16
If it takes 16 men 24 days to complete a job, then it should take 12 men 32 days to complete the same job. After 14 days, they would have had 18 days left to complete the job. At that time they were joined by the same number of women who collectively worked half as fast as the men. 18/1.5=12.

How do you arrive at the 32 days figure when the number of men are decreased by 25%. Wouldn't it then take them 25% longer (30 days total) to complete the job?

Use this formula: 12/16 = 24/x. To find x, cross-multiply, so that 12 x = 16 x 24. x=32.

Posted: **Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:08 pm**

Okay... I got one for you math honks.

Say... this guy I know... got a speeding ticket for going 56 in a 30. Say, that the asshole copper is full of shit because he estimated it on the ticket he wrote... for this guy I know. Not clocked. Just was standing in the middle of the fucking road and guestimated it. Let's say this guy has an SUV that goes 0-60 in 8.9 seconds according to Car and Driver and that the guy I know measured the approximate distance from the light, where he was sitting at a dead stop at, to where he saw the A-HOLE copper standing and it's 525 feet. Is there any way in fuck this guy I know's car got up to 56 MPH before seeing the cop, assuming constant acceleration? I, errrr, this guy I know tried doing the math and wasn't happy with the results. He hopes he's wrong.

Posted: **Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:32 pm**

Was your friend driving like they do in Car and Driver? The good people at that publication like to treat everything like it's a Ferrari Enzo, so that 0-60 in 8.9 was probably stomping on the accelerator and holding it there until you hit 60. If your friend was driving that way, it's unlikely that you....er....he got all the way up to 56 in that distance, but close to 50 is a fair guess. Still plenty fast for a ticket in a 30 zone.

Survey says?

Posted: **Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:35 pm**

Assuming constant acceleration, and 0-60 in 8.9 seconds, then the guy you know would take 56/60 x 8.9 or 8.306667 seconds to get from 0 to 56 mph.

Again assuming constant acceleration, from 0 to 56 mph implies an average speed of 28 mph. The distance travelled in 8.306667 sec at an average speed of 28 mph is:

8.306667 sec x 28 mph / 60 sec/min / 60 min/hr x 5280 ft/mile = 341 feet. So, he could go from 0 to 56 in 342 feet.

The guy you know is screwed.

Posted: **Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:16 pm**

ucant,

The guy you know could have saved some money by offering to blow the cop. Make sure he knows that for the next time.

Posted: **Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:42 pm**

While that may be your preferred method, I prefer to just pay the fine.

Posted: **Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:25 pm**

I had to cheat to pass high school algebra and my kid just passed her 1st series of Actuarial exams.....go figure.....

Posted: **Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:40 pm**

Means you were a lazy fuck and too stoned all day to study.

Posted: **Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:34 am**

The Seer wrote:I had to cheat to pass high school algebra and my kid just passed her 1st series of Actuarial exams.....go figure.....

I did very well in math -- until Calculus came along, that is. It was straight downhill from there.

Posted: **Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:45 am**

The Seer wrote:I had to cheat to pass high school algebra and my kid just passed her 1st series of Actuarial exams.....go figure.....

I got C's and an occasional B in math all throughout my school career, and had to work my ass off to earn those grades. I just had a tough time getting it.

In my father's immediate family (including himself and nieces and nephews) there are seven math PhD's in my family. As you can imagine, I'm the black sheep.

Posted: **Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:53 am**

Would it make you feel like an even bigger dumbass(is that possible?) if I told you that I got the leopard/deer one figured out (in my head, of course) in less than 15 seconds?

Posted: **Fri Mar 16, 2007 2:44 pm**

Mikey wrote:8.306667 sec x 28 mph / 60 sec/min / 60 min/hr x 5280 ft/mile = 341 feet. So, he could go from 0 to 56 in 342 feet.

The guy you know is screwed.

See... that's what I computed too. This much I know... I was doing about 43-44 MPH when I saw the cop. I thought I was in a 40 MPH Zone so I didn't even slam on my brakes upon seeing him. I've gone back there and counted off 8 seconds getting up to 45 MPH. At that point, I am past where I actually stopped on the side of the road after being pulled over... nevermind at the point where he "guestimated" my speed...

So... something isn't adding up.

Posted: **Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:04 am**

this job is datamining that you are applying for, yet you couldnt mine the internet for the fukking test? I dont think you are going to make it past the 90 day review. here is the entire test and link to the answers, stevie wonder.

http://www.gmatbuster.org/gmat_ps.htm

A leopard spots a deer from a distance of 200 meters. As the leopard starts chasing the deer, the deer also starts running. Given that the speed of the deer is 10 km/h and that of the leopard is 12 km/h, how far would have the deer run before it is caught?

3 km
4 km
2 km
1 km
5 km

Paul, Quallis and Robert divide a sum of money among themselves in the ratio 2:3:7. Find the share of Paul if the total share of Paul and Quallis together is $1500 less than that of Robert.

2000
1200
1400
2500
1500

Find the speed of a man in still water if he goes upstream at 6 km/h when the rate of stream is 2 km/h.

2 km/h
8 km/h
6 km/h
14 km/h
4 km/h

The length of rectangle ABCD is 6/5th of its breadth. Its perimeter is 132. Find its area.

660 m²
2210 m²
1080 m²
2160 m²
460 m²

The prices of a TV and a refrigerator are in the ratio 9:5. If the TV costs $4,200 more than the refrigerator does, what is the price of the refrigerator?

4200
5400
6000
5250
4600

40% of the people of a certain locality suffer from Diabetes, 25% suffer from Leprosy and 10% suffer from both. What percentage of the people do not suffer from either of the diseases?

30%
35%
40%
45%
50%

A bag contains balls, marbles and tops. The triple ratio of balls to marbles to tops in the bag is 20 : 4 : 6. If there are 120 balls in the bag, find the number of tops in the bag.

66
36
26
49
12

The cost of a camera at 20% discount is $100. Find its actual price.

$125
$130
$225
$335
$105

It takes 16 days for 48 women to complete a job that requires 16 men to complete in 24 days. 12 men initiate the work and after 14 days, 12 women join them. How many days will they together take to complete the job?

12
21
6
24
16

Where does p lie if p² < p?

Between -1 and 0
Between -1 and 1
Between 0 and 1
It is always less than 0
It is always greater than 1

The ratio of gasoline to edible oil in 40 liters of the mixture is 3 : 1. How many liters of edible oil should be added in the mixture to make the ratio of gasoline to edible oil 2 : 1?

15 liters
5 liters
7.5 liters
1.5 liters
10 liters

Find the value of (p - 1)³ if p = 15/18 + 5/16 - 20/24

-1231/4096
6
0
1321/4906
215/126

Given that AB and CD are two chords of a circle intersecting at the point O outside the circle, and AB = 7 m, BO = 5 m, and OD = 3 m. Find the length of OC.

20 m
16 m
35 m
6 m
18 m

In a class of 100 students, 20 play Football, 20 do not play Rugby, 10 play neither of the games. Find the number of students who play both the games.

15
12
10
9
20

The present age of Falcon is thrice the present age of Simran who is 20. How many years ago was the age of falcon five times that of Simran?

3
7.5
6
7
10

Posted: **Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:21 pm**

seriously, BONEHEAD, you couldnt mine the internet for the fukking test?

Posted: **Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:32 am**

marinerfan wrote:seriously, BONEHEAD, you couldnt mine the internet for the fukking test?

My post from page one of this thread:

Yeah, I used to enjoy doing those. Got to be too hard coming up with new questions. I'll probably start it up again at some point.

Here's the whole test if anyone wants to give it a shot:

http://www.gmatbuster.org/gmat_ps.htm

Nice job KYOA, shit troll.

Posted: **Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:35 am**

Ouch.

Posted: **Sat Mar 24, 2007 3:21 pm**

Grubbing Tube wrote:ucant,

The guy you know could have saved some money by offering to blow the cop. Make sure he knows that for the next time.

WORKS EVERY TIME FOR ME!

Posted: **Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:08 pm**

Math? When I registered here, I was told there'd be no math.

Then again, that might have just been a roost by the admins, in an effort to keep Irie away.

Wait...you said math...

Nevermind.

As you were...

Posted: **Sat Mar 24, 2007 8:57 pm**

OCmike wrote:
marinerfan wrote:seriously, BONEHEAD, you couldnt mine the internet for the fukking test?
My post from page one of this thread:

Yeah, I used to enjoy doing those. Got to be too hard coming up with new questions. I'll probably start it up again at some point.

Here's the whole test if anyone wants to give it a shot:

http://www.gmatbuster.org/gmat_ps.htm
Nice job KYOA, shit troll.

OC,

He didn't really kick his own ass. He's not actually paying attention to any side considerations (like maintaining a line of reasoning or being reasonably observant) because his one true mission is at hand and he's gonna go the distance for it.

Take a minute and consider: you posted elsewhere about your son's penchant for calling you 'bonehead'. Your son runs smack on you with that epithet over and over again.

Now here, on this board, marinerfan has taken to calling you 'bonehead' over and over again.

Coincidence? I think not. Marinerfan wants you to be his daddy, see. Yeah, kinda sad for a grown man to pine desperately for a strong male who will be there for him to show him how to post, tell him about sex, let him sit on his lap and snuggle after a day of being picked on by the message board bullies.

I'd guess his fixation began when he found out you had naval experience; he is, after all, marinerfan. And of course it IS a fixation, otherwise how would one explain this sudden outburst of erstwhile smack seemingly out of nowhere? The guy isn't known for going on the offensive in this realm. Until now, when there's a man for him to be had.

Sorry OCmike. You unwittingly opened the door to all of this when you let it be known how your actual son behaves (and also the post about some homo roommates, probably). Guys like mariner "Desperately Seeking Daddy" fan then know how to chirp in order to get your attention and hopefully get recognition as one of yours.

One last thing: all his carping about your yob? He's just worried that he'll be picked on by the other Grown Men with New Daddies because his strong male influence might not be as respectable as theirs.

Hope all this helps.

velocet

Posted: **Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:36 pm**

Jerkovich wrote:
Grubbing Tube wrote:ucant,

The guy you know could have saved some money by offering to blow the cop. Make sure he knows that for the next time.

WORKS EVERY TIME FOR ME!

Brilliant post, reindeer chum.

Edit to thank KC-Mississippi Neck for his insight.

T1B

I hate math

I hate math