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The speeding ticket thread got me to wondering. I see quite a few
cars down here with what seems to be a tinted cover for the license plate(Florida has a rear tag only).
I'm thinking the tint is an attempt to "hide" your tag number from the "eye in the sky" cameras
that are in place at some intersections.
Anyone know if the tinting works or not ?? If it does, you'd think the powers that be would outlaw them.
That also reminded me of my last trip to the Toronto Canada area. They have a toll highway up there
-- the 407-- that operates solely by cameras taking photos of your tag when you enter and leave the road.
One of my nephews told me they wouldn't bother charging my car with a Florida tag. Much to my chagrin
about a month later I received a bill in the mail for my highway use ! Looks like their system works
like a charm--or does it ??

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e wrote:i think i remember some states outlawing them. if they haven't, they should.

I think they're illegal here, but I could be mistaken. If so, it's not enforced, and they're popular.

Recently, I saw an interview with the bossman of the Oregon State Police, and he said there was only one brand of those covers that actually worked against the digital photos(one of the jurisdictions that uses photo-enforcement uses old fashioned film....I think it's Portland)...and he wouldn't say which manufacturer's product was the one that worked.


Then again, in Oregon, if you really get to reading the fine print on the photo-enforcement laws, it's essentially a voluntary fine, if a person has the stones to lie...and you can't be charged with perjury from anything stemming from a photo ticket...but most people don't seem to understand this.



I'm not sure whose fucking idea it was to "improve public safety" with photo radar/photo red light...since a couple of people have done studies, and the intersections with the red light cameras have shown an increase in accidents. If I know I'm about to blow through an "orange" light, how the hell is it making it safer if I have to take one hand off the wheel and cover my face as I gas it through a yellow?


What a scam. And one of the municipalities that uses photo enforcement, Beaverton, is on the verge of having their right to run photo enforcement taken away, since they are abusing the system BADLY, and are willfully ignoring the state laws that originally allowed them to put up cameras in the first place. And the mayor says that even if the state revokes their photoradar, they'll continue to use it and issue citations, and go after those who don't pay the fine(which is illegal for them to do in the first place).


Then again, Beaverton just issued an on-duty Beaverton cop a photoradar ticket for going a whole 10 over the limit...while on duty. WTF?

Wolfman wrote:That also reminded me of my last trip to the Toronto Canada area. They have a toll highway up there
-- the 407-- that operates solely by cameras taking photos of your tag when you enter and leave the road.

Use that tollway a couple times/year w/a rental. Never once have I been billed by the rental company or the Ontario patrol.

I recently saw a "Mythbusters" that tried every type of angle on every brand.



None of them worked. Basically, you're spending 30 bones for nothing.

Raydah James wrote:I recently saw a "Mythbusters" that tried every type of angle on every brand.

As mentioned, the OSP dude claimed there was one model from one manufacturer that worked, but I'm guessing it might depend on whether it's film or digital imaging.


If'n I'm not mistaken, didn't San Diego innovate this Big Brother blight on the American Way by doing it first?


Thanks for that...didn't take the Nazis long to jump on that bandwagon up here...free money.


Speaking of -- they used to have photo enforcement in Vancouver, WA. The problem was that every man woman and child in Spuncouver is a tweeker, and none of their 1978 Datsun beater-trucks are registered in their own name, and the program lost money at a good clip, so they did away with it. I'm not sure who gets the BODE in that situation.

MythBusters tried those things in their radar gun and camera test using one of the companies that creates those camera and a variety of radar and laser guns and found nothing that worked.

About the only things that I know should work is against laser, is the laser jammer. You basically get a kit that detects a laser light and then releases a single burst of its own reply that is a 1000 times stronger then the laser used in the laser guns used by cops. This confuses their reader and by the time they reshoot you, you will have slowed down. This is illegal in more states then radar guns are but I think most of them still allow laser jammers because they aren't illegal nationally.

Just recently they did a test with speed to try to get out of the cameras view before it snapped the picture but even at 160mph, they were still pictured easily.

About the only thing they did find was that a bird could in theory make the camera go off, but when it did, it was captured on the camera too.

Dinsdale wrote:

If'n I'm not mistaken, didn't San Diego innovate this Big Brother blight on the American Way by doing it first?


Thanks for that...didn't take the Nazis long to jump on that bandwagon up here...free money.

Nope, that was the lovely area of Beverly Hills (An intersection on Wilshire bully near Rodeo Drive, no less) in my hometown of Los Angeles that was implemented in the year 2000.

Next up-Speed Cameras, thanks again to B.H. and L.A.


Fucking cunts.

ElTaco wrote:MythBusters tried those things in their radar gun and camera test using one of the companies that creates those camera

Sounds about par-for-the-course for those hacks on that show.

From this, we can definitely conclude that none of the photo-prevention devices made by any company work on ANY manufacturer's cameras.


Those guys are such fuckups, it makes that show just about unwatchable. The fact they are clearly faggots doesn't do much for the watchability, either.


Hmmm....some guys tested stuff against one brand of camera....and the guy who runs a State Police department says something entirely different...hmmm.....who to believe?

Throw some mud on your license plate and let it dry.

They cant write you a ticket because your car is dirty.

Raydah James wrote: Nope, that was the lovely area of Beverly Hills (An intersection on Wilshire bully near Rodeo Drive, no less) in my hometown of Los Angeles that was implemented in the year 2000.

PSSST!


They've been using photoenforcement in San Francisco since 1997, Mr Cali-History-Buff.


A quick websearch shows that photo red light enforcement began in San Diego in 1998(authorized in 1996, implemented in 98).


Beaverton and Portland started in 1996, but I'm pretty sure they weren't the first.

Mr T wrote:
They cant write you a ticket because your car is dirty.

Wow.

Will you be my lawyer the next time I get a ticket?


Nah, they can't write you a ticket for "improperly displayed plate/registration" or anything like that...



Dumbass.

"improperly displayed plate/registration"

I live in alabama.

Mud on your license plate seems to happen. I seriously doubt anyone would go to court in AL for mud on a license plate, not counting anyone driving a cadillac with rims.

Dinsdale wrote:

Raydah James wrote: Nope, that was the lovely area of Beverly Hills (An intersection on Wilshire bully near Rodeo Drive, no less) in my hometown of Los Angeles that was implemented in the year 2000.

PSSST!


They've been using photoenforcement in San Francisco since 1997, Mr Cali-History-Buff.


A quick websearch shows that photo red light enforcement began in San Diego in 1998(authorized in 1996, implemented in 98).


Beaverton and Portland started in 1996, but I'm pretty sure they weren't the first.

Interesting.

I only named L.A. because I remember first remember hearing of it when all the fucking hoopla surrounding it with husbands getting caught with thier side whore in the car when wifey opens the mail, ect. ect.-and of course, since we're the trendsetter of the entire world in everything cool (and in this rare, rare case, something NOT fucking cool) I figured it was a lala thing.


San diego makes sense though, since this place is almost as fucking cool as L.A.

Mr T wrote:I seriously doubt anyone would go to court in AL for mud on a license plate

So, now we've gone from "can't," an absolute, to "seriously doubt," which is personally subjective.


What next? "Well, they've never written me up for it"?

Raydah James wrote:since we're the trendsetter of the entire world in everything cool

- Smog
- Losing football teams to shitholes
- "Empowered" darkies




What other "cool" things am I missing?

Dinsdale wrote:

Raydah James wrote:since we're the trendsetter of the entire world in everything cool

- Smog
- Losing football teams to shitholes
- "Empowered" darkies




What other "cool" things am I missing?

Wake me when Oregon or the fucking retards that reside in that shithole become relevant.

Raydah James wrote: Wake me when Oregon or the fucking retards that reside in that shithole become relevant.

PSSST!


You DO realize that we were making motion pictures in Beaverton before anyone thought to set up a camera in that Hollywood shithole, right?

Wait....aren't you a juice monkey "personal trainer" by trade?

Isn't that pretty much based on modern biochemistry(modern nutritionism sure is)?



Where did modern biochemistry come from again?

Oh...that's right.



Yeah, buddy....you almost knew what you were talking about...again.

Dinsdale wrote:

Raydah James wrote: Wake me when Oregon or the fucking retards that reside in that shithole become relevant.

You DO realize that we were making motion pictures in Beaverton

Now THESE are the kinds of laughs that money cant buy.






PSSST!

You DO realize that the movie industry obviously corrected thier geographical error-hence hollywood, right?


..............Laughing HARD over here at: Scenic Beaverton Oregon: We made a film ONCE!

Raydah James wrote:Scenic Beaverton Oregon: We made a film ONCE![/i]

Sidenote -- In the pure genius that IS the motion picture industry(and Beaverton was the capital in the "early days" of filmmaking)...


Currently, one of the major studios has been filming some major motion pic here in Portland(don't care enough to remember the name...it's a pretty frequent occurance, really). Apparently, there was some really important scene that involved filming on the Broadway Bridge during a rainstorm. The problem was, that Mother Nature just wasn't cooperating with their filming schedule, and there was no rain to be had.



But these are Hollywood people, darnit, and they weren't about to let something monor like that stand in the way of filming. So, they call in some dude who is supposedly the greatest special-effects "rain guy" to ever live. He then undertakes this massive project that involves installing a sprinkler system over the entire Broadway Bridge(at a very high cost).


It's now occurred to me that I need to post some sort of disclaimer.....No, I'm really, really not making this shit up.



This was allegedly the largest rain-making special effects project ever undertaken in moviemaking history. In short order, dude managed to install sprinklers to cover an area 900 feet long by 60 feet wide.


That 54,000 square feet of sprinklers, for the math-challenged.


Damn, what a massive project to try and finish in such a short amount of time.




So, Dear Readers, you DO see where this story is heading at this point, right?


Us Webfoots couldn't stop fucking laughing when they announced the project(then again, we tend to laugh nonstop at californians as a general rule). It's fucking March...and someone id decrying a lack of rain....which is funny in and of itself.


But...you saw this coming...no sooner had dude finished the sprinklers and had them ready for filming, that it started raining cats and dogs(I think I stepped in a poodle that day).




Fucking retards.




I think the movie is called Untouchable, or something like that. Based on the brainpower of those who produced it, I'm sure it'll get the nickname Unwatchable soon after its release.

Dinsdale wrote:(then again, we tend to laugh nonstop at californians as a general rule)

Before or after your daily boating commute to work?



Dont laugh too hard-our plan of taking over your shit state and just making it an extension of Cali is working out quite wonderfully at this point.......

Raydah James wrote:
Before or after your daily boating commute to work?

Not too long ago, I saw comparisons of the 50 largest cities in the country. Ranked by total rainfall, from most to least, Portland came in 36th out of 50.



But no, really...please continue...it's making you look all smart and stuff.


And as far as rainfall and snowpack in winter...I'm sure I'll be crying about it when it doesn't rain for several months on end. Maybe I'll put a garden sprinkler on my concrete driveway in your honor, while I wash my car 12 times a day...and giggle when you clowns try and buy our water again.


You might also want to tread lightly, since we can hit that ol' switch, and make it awfully hot and dark inside your house, bud. 35 million people are at the whims and mercy of 3.5 million people for their very survival...and the 35 million tards still think they have BODE...ponderous.

Dinsdale wrote:

You might also want to tread lightly, since we can hit that ol' switch

Until that 'ol switch is hit (It never will be, bitch), all your BODE are belong to us. Period.

Not too long ago, I saw comparisons of the 50 largest cities in the country. Ranked by total rainfall, from most to least, Portland came in 36th out of 50.

Oh, OK.


Link, tard.

Raydah James wrote: Link, tard.

Nah. I think it would be better if you educated yourself a bit.


Here's a partial list of cities with more average annual rainfall than Portland --


NYC
Miami
Houston
Boston
St Louis
KC



Fuck, I could go on and on. It's about a dead-heat with Dallas for total rainfall...I don't thnik too many people consider Dallas to be a particularly rainy place.


Hell, the burb I live in comes in around 30 inches or so a year. Yeah, time to build an ark alright.

Do NOT STEP to the U&L in middle-of-the-road rankings of major city rainfall lists.

Freaking BODE, right there.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Do NOT STEP to the U&L in middle-of-the-road rankings of major city rainfall lists.

My town gets about the same precip as East Lansing.

Sweet.

Personally, I loves me a good downpour+t-storm every now and then. Very relaxing.

In fact, it's going on right now. Got the door wall wide open.

Dinsdale wrote:

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Do NOT STEP to the U&L in middle-of-the-road rankings of major city rainfall lists.

My town gets about the same precip as East Lansing.

and about 1/2 the sun of it.



If I actually cared about that dank stretch of clouded up land that shows actual sunrays 1/3 out of the fucking year, i'd stick around to clown it some more.


Drinking, and later railing hot sluts at Moondoggies awaits, so im out.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Sweet.

Personally, I loves me a good downpour+t-storm every now and then. Very relaxing.

If by "every now and then" you mean "every other day, sometimes more often" then you should come spend mid-Nov through mid-Jan here.

Raydah James wrote:
Drinking, and later railing hot sluts at Moondoggies awaits, so im out.

You live in a place that tolerates a bar called Moondoggies.


I think we've settled the regional-BODE issue quite definitively.



Although, I'm headed across town...the "drinking with and railing hot sluts" part sounds pretty good, though. I'll see if I can't find a place called Retards-R-Us or something, and drop on in.

Dinsdale wrote:

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Sweet.

Personally, I loves me a good downpour+t-storm every now and then. Very relaxing.

If by "every now and then" you mean "every other day, sometimes more often" then you should come spend mid-Nov through mid-Jan here.

No, you clearly don't understand.
Thunderstorms
With lightning and all.
Really, I thought self-proclaimed meteorologist would know the difference between what you get out there fall through spring and what the midwest happily endures in the spring/summer.

I remember going through (I think) Riverside in '96 or '97 & seeing a sign advertising photo-radar enforcement at a time while the city of San Diego was still considering using the device. But it seems to me that it was some place out of state (possibly Texas or Florida) that was using it first.

Dinsdale wrote:

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Sweet.

Personally, I loves me a good downpour+t-storm every now and then. Very relaxing.

If by "every now and then" you mean "every other day, sometimes more often" then you should come spend mid-Nov through mid-Jan here.

Dude, I live in an area that can go from 55 degree temps to 3 feet of snow fall in 48 hours. You think a couple month's worth of rain is gonna phase me?

Ken wrote: No, you clearly don't understand.
Thunderstorms

**YAWN**


Again, just because some shit is cool on an occasion, it doesn't make it cool full-time.


See, we've got this place called "The Gorge," and any time I want to see a thunderstorm in summer, it's an hour's drive away(or so).


Doesn't mean I want to deal with it daily.


I know a guy from KC, Kansas, who said much of his teen years were spent taking a bunch of acid and chasing thunderstorms around. Yeah, that sounds like it beats hanging out at the beach, on the river, or in the mountains.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:You think a couple month's worth of rain is gonna phase me?

You really don't understand the power of the Blanket of Gloom.


There's a reason transplants to the U&L commit suicide at an alarming clip during the Dark Time.


Winter fucking sucks here. The only positive is that rain doesn't need to be shovelled, and it rarely snows.


But winter is over now. The Blanket of Gloom (which didn't hit that badly this winter) can go fuck itself.


I met a guy from...I think it was East Lansing, recently. Moved here at the beginning of winter. Said it freaking sucked...but then, he saw guys golfing at the course by his house during January. Asked his coworkers "you can golf here in winter?"

"If you don't mind mud."

Dude said he was sold after that.

Dinsdale wrote:

Ken wrote: No, you clearly don't understand.
Thunderstorms

**YAWN**

Again, just because some shit is cool on an occasion, it doesn't make it cool full-time.

See, we've got this place called "The Gorge," and any time I want to see a thunderstorm in summer, it's an hour's drive away(or so).

Doesn't mean I want to deal with it daily.

Keep yawning over there. You still don't get it. Even those 'thunderstorms' in the gorge by Hood that you call 'thunderstorms' are mere drizzle events in comparison.

Dinsdale wrote:You really don't understand the power of the Blanket of Gloom.

Psssst, I'll trade you my shovel for that umbrella, bro...

I don't care what kind of suicide percentages you have at your disposal..."gloom" in the form of rain and cloudy skies (the latter of which we're not exactly lacking in during the winter months ourselves) doesn't exactly compare to gloom in the form of four straight months of this:


Anyhoo, just be careful when you're tossing those generic "transplant" and "midwesterner" labels about. Because you just might make the mistake of comparing, say, your average KCTard to a lake effect snow-dwelling Michigander, which would be like comparing a black dwarf to Yao Ming.

Dinsdale wrote:

Mr T wrote:I seriously doubt anyone would go to court in AL for mud on a license plate

So, now we've gone from "can't," an absolute, to "seriously doubt," which is personally subjective.


What next? "Well, they've never written me up for it"?

I never known anyone to get a ticket for having a muddy vehicle but that is just me.

Do you know of anyone?

I forgot to add to that DON'T GET ME WRONG...

I'm not even complaining about the winters here. Certainly there are days in the middle of winter where I'd give my left nut to the e Foundation in order to sit in a lawn chair for just 15 minutes on a beach in Hawaii somewhere; but you won't see me complaining either. It's just part of the deal. If I can get through it, which I do with ease, I get three other seasons of something completely different, each one refreshing in its own way.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:

Dinsdale wrote:You really don't understand the power of the Blanket of Gloom.

Psssst, I'll trade you my shovel for that umbrella, bro...

I don't care what kind of suicide percentages you have at your disposal..."gloom" in the form of rain and cloudy skies (the latter of which we're not exactly lacking in during the winter months ourselves) doesn't exactly compare to gloom in the form of four straight months of this:

If I lived in that shit I'd be pretty fucking bummed too. Fortunately, only buffalo and grizzly bears have to put up with the kind of snowfall Yellowstone Park receives.

http://www.nps.gov/archive/yell/tours/t ... arolyn.htm

Seriously, anybody on the east coast bitching about this past winter should get kicked in the nuts. It was a cakewalk. Hell, I knew people in Rochester playing golf into December. And you best believe they're teeing them up this week.