T1B

Posted: **Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:35 pm**

nice OOC schedules SEC. jesus, talk about cupcake city.

Posted: **Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:41 pm**

The Redundant Man of Redundancy wrote:nice OOC schedules SEC. jesus, talk about cupcake city.

Posted: **Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:41 pm**

yer one to talk AG. i see you've got giant-killer Montana State this year. and that vaunted Citadel squad you tangled with last year. if i was buying season tix at Kyle i'd puke.

your AD has balls like a hamster. Texas State had you sweating, remember that?

everyone plays a patsie but most usually counter with a deece D-1 team. not the Ags.

Posted: **Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:28 pm**

Must...not...give in to temptation...must...stay...logged...out...

-Van

Posted: **Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:35 pm**

King Crimson wrote:yer one to talk AG. i see you've got giant-killer Montana State this year. and that vaunted Citadel squad you tangled with last year. if i was buying season tix at Kyle i'd puke.

your AD has balls like a hamster. Texas State had you sweating, remember that?

everyone plays a patsie but most usually counter with a deece D-1 team. not the Ags.

It wasn't a shot at you, dog. Just the evermore SEC schedules suck OOC games that is recycled every year.

Anyhow, I admit this year and last year A&M hasn't done much OOC. However, we have always played 1 deece OOC game. We also have Fresno St (not great now, but when we scheduled them they were OK) and Miami. Show me one team who plays 4 quality OOC games every single year.

Posted: **Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:43 pm**

Oh, and the Miami game was scheduled 6 years ago. they were pretty damn good then.

Posted: **Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:58 pm**

I guess I never took notice when Troy & Florida Atlantic joined the SEC.

Posted: **Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:59 pm**

Sudden Sam wrote: We ain't like the Big 2 conference (OSU & Michigan) or the PAC 2 (USC & whoever). We don't have but a couple of easy games.

The only people more delusional than the Mormons are the SEC Ballsucking Homers.

If only they knew how funny they were.

Posted: **Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:49 pm**

Sudden Sam wrote:Troy's in the Big 12. :D They beat Missouri...remember?

KC, the argument has always been that with the SEC schedule, we can't afford to play a tough OOC game. I'd love to see the Alabama-Penn St. matchup again, or games with Nebraska, Oklahoma, ND, etc. like we used to have. But you play SEC teams week in and week out, you need a breather every so often.

We ain't like the Big 2 conference (OSU & Michigan) or the PAC 2 (USC & whoever). We don't have but a couple of easy games.

Vandy played Michigan last year. Tennessee played ND the in '04 and '04. LSU has had the balls to schedule out of conference. Arkansas played USC the last two years.

As for the "couple of easy games", this is a conference that has Vandy, Kentucky, Mississippi State and Ed Ogeron led Ole Miss.

Posted: **Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:13 pm**

Careful or he will talk about "the rise of Vandy". That's not a compliment for the conference.

Posted: **Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:34 pm**

fuck, i WENT to Vandy and i don't even talk about the 'Dores.

Posted: **Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:19 pm**

funny that aside from the Rosebowl in 2006, no OOC team USC has played in the last 5 years has even caused them to sweat, yet they lost 3 conf games to those "also rans"
That includes 4 games vs SEC teams

Posted: **Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:41 pm**

DO NOT question the superiority of the SEC...

Sure, facts might lead one to believe otherwise...

But how can you possibly stand in opposition to SECFans' "Because we said so" argument?

For a conference that considers itself so high and mighty, they sure are afraid of being exposed OOC, eh?

Then again, I see them working -- when you schedule that hilarious of an OOC schedule, when conference play starts, I suppose it would give them the impression that they're really something special.

The only good I could see coming from a playoff system, is that like the hoops tourney, teams(sup SEC) would hopefully get left on the outside looking in because of their AD's lack of testicular fortitude. That would be pretty sweet.

Why does the SEC even bother playing OOC games? They should call them "CC" games, not "OCC"...Community College schedule.

Then again...with the beatings that the rest of the country put on those people/states about 140 years ago, they probably still aren't yet ready to be exposed as the pussies we all know they are. Maybe they figure that if they actually leave the South to play, some Yankee might burn their stadium down while they're gone.

I'm suprised children of SEC fans don't grow up thinking that there's some team out there named "The Byes."

Posted: **Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:45 pm**

King Crimson wrote:i see you've got giant-killer Montana State this year.

Montana State needed to do that...otherwise, that gruelling Big Sky schedule would wear them out, and they wouldn't be ready for the Bowls(after a 1.5 month layoff).

Posted: **Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:30 pm**

SoCalTrjn wrote:funny that aside from the Rosebowl in 2006, no OOC team USC has played in the last 5 years has even caused them to sweat,

Looked to me like they were sweating the ND game in '05.

Posted: **Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:02 am**

Sudden Sam wrote: KC, the argument has always been that with the SEC schedule, we can't afford to play a tough OOC game.

that's the argument, and it's well trod. but, doesn't make it true.

Posted: **Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:30 am**

out of 12 SEC teams, 2 play 5 road games and only Miss St plays 6.

The BCS should not even consider teams that play fewer than 6 road games for BCS bowls

Posted: **Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:48 am**

Sudden Sam wrote:the argument has always been that with the SEC schedule, we can't afford to play a tough OOC game.

Yeah, that worked out real well for us didn't it?

-2004 Auburn

Posted: **Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:00 am**

Sudden Sam wrote:We ain't like the Big 2 conference (OSU & Michigan)

BTW - stuff like this is what makes the rest of the country laugh out loud at SECFan. Wisconsin only loses one game last year, and even beats the SEC's mighty national championship contending Arkansas Razorbacks in a big time bowl game, yet isn't even considered one of the best in its own conference. BUT YOU KNOW the SEC dorks have got their middle of the road teams like Bama and Georgia pegged as elite-status world beaters.

Posted: **Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:16 pm**

Arkansas was at best a middle of the road team, hell no Pac 10 team gave up 120 points over the last 2 years to USC

Posted: **Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:25 am**

Sudden Sam wrote:Dins,

I'm sure some SEC school would love to invite your Oregon Ducks down here to play, but they simply can't do it. The ADs are afraid some ol' redneck would beat the piss outta the whole team for wearing those pussy-ass, faggoty unis. :D

Thats a simple fix, an SEC teanm should just grow some fuckin balls and travel to Eugene

Posted: **Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:35 pm**

Sudden Sam wrote:Arkansas was so one-dimensional on offense that pitiful Alabama would have beaten them last year

Nevertheless, Arky was still one of your league's premier teams last season. This is where SECDork kicks his own ass, but doesn't even realize it.

You attempt to say things like, "we're so great, we're above traveling and playing good teams out of conference."

You attempt to say things like, "our best is so good, it's tough enough as it is. It ain't worth playing good OOC competition."

But when you actually have a chance to try and convince us how great your better teams actually are, you slight them by calling them "one-dimensional" and put them on par with "pitiful" teams.

So which is it? Are you trying to convince me how great your conference is, or how overrated it is? Doesn't even look like you have that figured out.

Look, I don't have a problem with you guys acting like you're untouchables. But if you're gonna have that attitude, then dammit, you should earn it. Enough of this, "We're so awesome, we're the best, nobody can touch us...BUUUUUUUUUUT, we shouldn't have to play on the road against good teams because it's too risky."

If you want to run your mouths like world-beaters, then you need to start acting like you're capable of being world-beaters. If you're as great as you say you are, then you should welcome any and all challenges out of conference, instead of putting both hands over your vaginas while yelling out "Our teams are too hard! We can't afford to play a more difficult schedule! Waaaaa! Waaaaa!"

Put up or shut up, SECdork. Can't have it both ways.

Posted: **Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:27 pm**

Sudden Sam wrote:Why would any SEC team travel to little ol' Autzen? Can Oregon pay enough to make the trip worthwhile?

Serious question...are you smoking crack? If he they so desired, Oregon could buy the entire SEC.

If they can, I'm sure Mississippi State would be glad to head out there to dismantle the Ducks.

Wow, SEC honk is really on top of his game...

PSSSSST! Hey SEC fan....

They did a H&H with Mississippi State in the last 5 years. Because they were the ONLY SEC team that didn't schedule a scotumectomy when called out to actually play somebody. It may not make them too many friends, but the Ducks' athletic department does a good job of informing the fans (through informal channels, of course) when the "superpowers" grow a vagina. They've offered many teams a very worthwhile financial opportunity to come out West. But see, the SEC knows there's a catch...they're not going to win in Autzen...because very very few teams ever do...even in a down year(sup every other year). SEC fan talks a mean game, but it's not based in truth.

Oregon plays in the Big House this year. That alone pretty much clowns the entire SEC's OOC schedule most years.

Hey, maybe we should apply SECnology to other sports -- The Yankees play in the AL East. Pretty much the toughest division in baseball every year. And with that gruelling division schedule, they should probably just play AAA teams the rest of the time.

I'd say "do you know how retarded you sound, SEC fan?" But then I remember that the "S" stands for "South," and I just let it slide.

Posted: **Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:42 pm**

And you guys wonder why you get the responses you do.

Okay.......let me ask this question....best conference last year, year before, etc.....

I pose the question....if you already have ONE OF THE HARDEST SCHEDULES IN THE COUNTRY, why make it even harder on your team? Not one of you has come up with any type of GOOD reason.....not one.

Posted: **Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:46 pm**

Dinsdale wrote: Hey, maybe we should apply SECnology to other sports -- The Yankees play in the AL East. Pretty much the toughest division in baseball every year. And with that gruelling division schedule, they should probably just play AAA teams the rest of the time.

This just in, but the AL Central has been recognized as the toughest division in MLB the past two years.

Posted: **Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:47 pm**

Give SEC Honk enough rope, and he'll enroll himself in special education classes...

T REX wrote:Not one of you has come up with any type of GOOD reason.....not one.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Yeah, that worked out real well for us didn't it?

-2004 Auburn

Who did Auburn get beaten out by? A certain PAC10 team that actually tries to prove they're the best with their schedule?

They need to make an adjustment to the BCS system to penalize the SEC, and others who want to coast into a BCS Bowl.

Posted: **Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:47 pm**

"Vagisil - Helping SEC AD's with their decision-making for over 70 years."

Posted: **Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:49 pm**

What was that MGO? Didn't quite catch it.

Posted: **Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:55 pm**

Sudden Sam wrote:Top tp bottom, nobody has to play as rough a schedule as SEC teams.

Yeah, that brutal SEC West can really get in an opponent's dome.

Posted: **Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:10 pm**

You SECDolts just don't get it. I don't think many people will argue the SEC isn't a great conference. Hell, I think they're the best in most years, even.

But being "the best" in CF doesn't put you head and shoulders above everybody else. The gap is not great from #1 to #2. Or even #1 and #3. There's just waaaaaaay too much talent spread across the land these days, way too many good coaches, way too many programs with boatloads of money and booster support, and great facilities. This shit isn't exactly exclusive to the UTs, UFS, and LSUs of the world. Why you fools still act like we're in the days of yore when just 2 or 3 teams owned the land is beyond me.

Funny, when facts and numbers show the SEC isn't even rated the #1 conference in the country, SECFan simply ignores this and claims they're the best anyway. How do you argue with someone like that?

Hell, if you win 100% of your bowl games every year, then I'd say, "fuck it, you should play whoever you want without ridicule." But as long as you prove you're capabale of losing to other teams in other conferences just like everybody else in the country, then I don't see why you should be awarded special consideration when you decide to clip off your balls come scheduling time.

Posted: **Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:40 pm**

Sudden Sam wrote:Most every year, the SEC West is tough as hell. Auburn, LSU, and Alabama are generally going to be good teams. Bama's obviously been down (if you wanna call 10-2 down ) for a few years, but I believe you will find that your PAC 10 pushovers don't want any part of an SEC West school. Everything revolves around money. If Oregon offered a decent amount to an SEC school, they'd be there. I guarantee you there's no school in the conference that fears going to Eugene. That's laughable. That no defense team doesn't scare any AD or coach.

Again, nobody's saying your conference isn't tough. The argument is that you aren't so great that you shouldn't have to go on the road to play anybody decent OOC. Or really anybody decent at all, anywhere.

And apparently, the system in place that decides who plays where in December/January agrees with me.

Again, ask 04 Auburn how that strategy works. Unfortunately, there isn't a component of the BCS formula that says SEC team should receive extra special super dooper bonus points just for being in the SEC. Of course, I'm not saying Auburn would've been a lock for the BCS title game had they beefed up their schedule, but they didn't do themselves any favors when they broke out the Vagisil prior to picking up the phone and ringing up La-Monroe, La Tech, and the freaking Citadel. Oh wait...let's wait for the spiel about how everybody else backed out at the last minute so they had to play this pile of suck. Uh huh. At least UF has the yearly date with FSU, so they can somewhat afford to play the Western Carolinas of the world. Although there should never be an excuse for playing a D1AA. Ever.

I'm still waiting to see the list of schools who play such brutal OOC schedules.

Let's use a phrase you like to use a lot - top to bottom. Are you honestly arguing, that top to bottom, the SEC's OOC schedules aren't weaker than everybody elses? Honestly?

Anyway, it's irrelevant. You can go around the country and pluck out teams with bad OOC schedules. But the point is THEY aren't the ones who are attempting to justify their cupcake schedules. THEY aren't the ones who are making excuses and acting like they're above playing a tough roadie. Nope, that's you guys. Nobody else is making these outrageous claims about why they shouldn't have to play a tough OOC game. Nope, that's you guys. It's YOU that needs to justify yourselves, not the rest of the country.

Posted: **Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:41 pm**

Sudden Sam wrote: Everything revolves around money. If Oregon offered a decent amount to an SEC school, they'd be there.

WTF are you talking about?

Oregon has THE wealthiest active booster in the game. Now there's talk of building a new basketball arena, He doesn't try and drum up booster support...he just offers to foot the whole bill. You're so far from knowing what you're talking about, it's scary. Oregon has shown more than a willingness to take huge financial hits to get better games, because...see if you can follow...they can afford to.

Dude, several SEC teams and other notable programs outside the SEC have been publically called out...and their nuts still shrivel. Yeah, it's all about money...and they don't get the big time BCS bowl after getting their ass handed to them in Eugene(and you might want to check Oregon's record against OOC opponents at home over the last decade or so before you say anything else silly...ranked, unranked, it doesn't matter).

Rumor has it that they're in negotiations with Tennessee rioght now, and the money is very good...allegedly. But then, the Tenn AD, like the other SEC pussies, will do a little checking into OOC teams' performance in Eugene, and they'll pass...

I mean, WTF, dude...you've seen how we roll...if the game isn't going Oregon's way, we just rig it anyway...so don't go thinking SECfags have any chance of winning here.

Posted: **Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:38 pm**

Sudden Sam wrote:The SEC is the one conference that should never have to make excuses.

Hilarious.

How many times do we have to bring up 04 Auburn before you'll stop it with the "because I said so!" arguments?

There's what you think. And then there's what facts and reality say.

Posted: **Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:50 pm**

don't know anything about your alleged wealthy booster

Been following CFB long? I'm guessing that makes you the only person here who isn't familiar with him...does the nickname "Nike U" ring any bells? That one company that will pay Tiger Woods $50 freaking million a year to make their shoes look cooler? And you think ponying up a few bucks to Tenn or any other huge-stadiumed school is an issue? Really?

BTW-I think with the upgrades they get purt-near 60K for football.

Sudden Sam wrote:I if the Ducks can pay any amount due to this guy's benevolence, why don't they have great OOC games year in and year out?

Wow...I almost forgot I was dealing with SEC-level intelligence here.

What part of "they back out/have no balls" do you not understand?

SEC is protecting their financial interests by scheduling patsies, and getting nice bowls. They're much too sissy to come play in what the Sporting News calls "the most intimidating stadium in CFB."

Kinda on-topic...U of O OOC plays Houston, which will never be mistaken for a powerhouse, but at least usually puts on an entertaining offense, and won their conference, IIRC. They play Fresno State, which is sometimes a top-25 program...regardless, the teams have a long, friendly rivalry, and everuyone enjoys the occasiona matchup with Fresno...lots of enthusiasm from both sides...and Oregon still has no problems playing in their shithole of a building. The last OOC game...Michigan*...speaks for itself.

Most years, most SEC teams would cower in terror at such a formidable OOC slate. And they sure AS FUCK wouldn't think about playing any of those teams on the road...another issue that makes the SEC's OOC a complete freaking joke. Funny how you show up to a game a little better rested if you only drive 30 minutes to your "road" games, eh?

* - Ohhhhh, wait...I guess that whole H&H with Michigan kind of blows your stupid fucking theory into the weeds, eh...since last I checked, the Big House holds more than even Neyland(I think). So, now that we've conclusively established that stadium size/money isn't the issue, what's your new excuse as to why SEC teams are such unbelievable pussies?

Posted: **Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:59 pm**

Sudden Sam wrote:Oh wait, we have Florida State on the schedule.

Tears, Jerry.

This is Bamatard's defense..."we play FSU!"

At least it's a start, SECtard. Maybe someday when you build a little confidence playing FSU, then maybe you'll even try...playing a game outside of the Southeastern United States...although the few times SEC teams try, they generally get their ass handed to them.

What a bunch of fucking pussies. If you don't subject yourselves to both A) a non-laughable OOC schedule, and B) the rigors of cross-country travel, then you're not playing the same game as everyone else, and you need to STFU. Really...it's come time for the SEC to put up or shut up.

Posted: **Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:02 pm**

Sudden Sam wrote:I If you're in the Big Ten or PAC Ten, it's no sweat to get a big-time OOC game. If you've got any kinda team at all, you know you're going to waltz thru the conference schedule.

Yeah, good thing the PAC10 contenders don't have to deal with the likes of Kentucky, Vandy, Bama, and the Mississippi schools every year...that would be BRUTAL!

I can't believe I just read that shit.

Posted: **Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:21 pm**

Sudden Sam wrote: So y'all enjoy your 63-49 scores up there in "No Defense" land.

Oh no you DI'NT!

Yeah, I suppose us folks out west should adopt the Southeastern strategy...slam the ball up the middle of the line 3 times and punt. Then when we lose 12-9, we can congratulate our opponent for playing "great defense."

Trees play "great defense" in the Southeast, too.

Sin,
TenTallBen

Posted: **Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:24 pm**

Sudden Sam wrote: And please. SEC ADs...don't schedule Oregon 'til they get some unis that a man would wear.

Uhm....your conference champion wears orange and blue...TOGETHER. There's a reason that the sports-apparel bucks in this country reside in the opposite corner of the country from you. Hell, they're not even the only team in the conference that wears...orange.

That argument holds about as much water as the SEC's "because we said so" excuse.

Posted: **Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:30 pm**

Sam, do you plan on actually forming an opinion of your own, or are you going to continue to scrape by on talking points?

I guess all the "experts" are wrong about the SEC. All the announcers and prognosticators who watch games in every town and in every conference must be wrong in suggesting that the SEC is the best football conference. See, it's not just us ignorant hicks who know this. It's Herbstreit and Keith Jackson and a hundred other guys who actually KNOW something about college football.

Why are you STILL fucking confused about what the argument is about? It isn't about that your conference isn't great. It isn't even about that you're not possibly the best. It's about how you're not so great that you can get away with your pussyness in scheduling and not be called out for it.

Win your bowl games to the tune of about 100%, and I'll agree you guys are on a whole 'nother level and shouldn't be questioned. Ever. But since you prove you're just as capable as anybody else of losing on any given day, then you shouldn't receive the god-like treatment you demand from the rest of the country. You think the gap between #1 and #2 is like the Grand Canyon, when in fact it's more like a sidewalk crack.

Do you realize the Hurrigangstas have as many titles as the ENTIRE MIGHTY SEC in the last 20 years? You know, since you want to talk championships and all. Do you realize the Big12 actually has MORE than you?

Posted: **Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:35 pm**

The problem is, that Bama makes for a worse OOC than Fresno State and Houston.

Would Bama even be able to play if the relative humidity was under 50%?

T1B

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