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88 wrote:She's Always Been An Asshole

Isn't that a requirement for attorneys?

Respondent's disciplinary history includes five letters of admonition that the Committee had issued to respondent involving neglect of legal matters and failure to cooperate with the Committee and a public censure for failing to cooperate with the Disciplinary Committee regarding a complaint of professional misconduct and for failing to return a client's legal file as repeatedly requested by the client (250 AD2d 217 [1998]).

Wow. It looks like she'd been cut plenty of breaks already.

88 wrote:I just hope she doesn't croak before her ass gets locked up for the full term of her sentence.

The full term of her sentence is only 28 months. I take it she's free on bail pending appeal?

I was worried thiswould be a Rosie O donnel thread.

... which is why I'll always love her with my tongue.

- ST

I never could find a reason to accept what she allegedly did...

88 wrote:

XXXL wrote:I never could find a reason to accept what she allegedly did...

Defending the accused is a tough job. And there are lots of good people who work their ass off making sure that the accused get their Due Process and a fair trial. Shit stains like Lynne Stewart give the good lawyers a bad reputation.

Agreed, lots of dedicated people are workingg their asses off for the preservation of Due Process and a fair go in the Courtroom.

Pearson is out of bounds...I have dry cleaner clients and I should review any policies they may have for same day service :) I'm sure this guy will alienate the jury before he finishes his opening argument.

88 wrote:

XXXL wrote:I never could find a reason to accept what she allegedly did...

What she did really pisses me off. And there is no doubt she did do it. The allegedly part of your post is a bit misleading. She was caught on video and audio tape. She just didn't think the government could get a conviction against her for breaking rules she didn't agree with.

Defending the accused is a tough job. And there are lots of good people who work their ass off making sure that the accused get their Due Process and a fair trial. Shit stains like Lynne Stewart give the good lawyers a bad reputation.

I have to confess that when I first heard about this case, I was a little chilled. I believe that everyone is entitled to his or her day in court, and that lawyers as a result have an ethical obligation to represent unpopular clients at times. I'm not a big fan of this Administration (sin, Marcus), and the prosecution of Stewart initially struck me as a shot across the bow by the Administration against criminal defense lawyers, at least when it came to representing terrorism suspects. As the case went on, however, it became clear that Stewart's actions were reprehensible.

88 wrote:

Jsc810 wrote:

88 wrote:Shit stains like Lynne Stewart give the good lawyers a bad reputation.

So do lawyers like Roy Pearson.

That is amazing. He should be disbarred and then beaten with rebar. I can't believe the defense lawyer can't get that fuck stick in front of a judge for an immediate beat down.

Pearson's first letter to the Chungs sought $1,150 so he could buy a new suit. Two lawyers and many legal bills later, the Chungs offered Pearson $3,000, then $4,600 and, finally, says their attorney, Chris Manning, $12,000 to settle the case.

Wow. If I were the judge in that case, I would've beaten this guy down until he took the settlement. I can't believe the judge didn't do it.

If the case hadn't been assigned to a judge at the time, then it's on the Chungs' lawyer, at least in part. He should have gotten the case assigned to a judge, and then in to the judge for a preliminary conference immediately.

^^^ Incredible imagery within the weight of history ^^^

Speaking of P'sOS...

Of course, at least half this board would want to hit on the wife.

88 wrote:I haven't stepped into the courtroom in two years...

It shows.

RadioFan wrote:Speaking of P'sOS...

Of course, at least half this board would want to hit on the wife.

Has the DoJ asked him to step down?

R-Jack wrote: How?

Go change your horse-faced wife's stable hay you stupid tard.

R-Jack wrote:

Moving Sale wrote:

R-Jack wrote: How?

Go change your horse-faced wife's stable hay you stupid tard.

Still unable to explain your tricycle-by rants?

Rock on little Tvofindafold.

Yeah WTF is that short fat jewish kid on a bike avatard all about? JTR leaving another failed audition, or present day you escaping another day of ridicule after fucking up in court - again?

R-Jack wrote: Still unable to explain your tricycle-by rants?

Unable?
How about unwilling to lay out the obvious for a tard?

Now go spend some quality time with Mrs. Ed you stupid silly fuck.

88 wrote:...I don't practice in municipal court.

You don't practice in ANY court you Down's-Syndrome-Gene-Passing-On muthafucka.

Now go pick your kid up from his special school you stupid tard.

Moving Sale wrote:

88 wrote:I haven't stepped into the courtroom in two years...

It shows.

It is unfathomable how so many people find litigators deplorable.....

mvscal wrote:"Surprisingly," no mention of this blatant attempt by a motherfucking ni...gger racist to destroy a Korean owned business with a malicious lawsuit that was never at any point in time about the redress of any minor grievance.

It is surpising to you that most of the rest of us are not Racist tards like you?

XXXL wrote:^^^ Incredible imagery within the weight of history ^^^

^^^Incredible choice of words^^^

tuff gong wrote:

XXXL wrote:^^^ Incredible imagery within the weight of history ^^^

^^^Incredible choice of words^^^

Don't have a cow.......


Sin,
Bart .......

Jsc810 wrote:Not content with losing at trial and having to pay costs, Mr. Pearson will appeal. Now he will end up having to pay costs on appeal too.

Yeah that story is getting a lot of run in this area, since it's local and all.

Check out this letter to the editor of the Washington comPost.


Of course the link doesn't speak to all opinions in this vicinity. One woman I spoke with was dismayed by the decision. To paraphrase what she said (and staying true to the ebonics involved): "Dey [asians] think we stupit an shit. Dey worser than whi'e people bee-in all racist (*laughs because she's saying this to me, Total Whiteboy*)hahahahaaha! But srrryisly dey don't know wha's up around here and dey talk dey shit conspirin' like ands dey know we can't unnnerstan' what dey be sayin'. Dey just insensitive like an' dey act like dey don't know we was slabes an shit. The Judge [she means Pearson] wuz just fightin' back but you know dey ain't gonna give no blap man no rill say in court..."


My best guess is that she divulged this to me, her eternal enemy Evil Racist White Man Blue Eyed Devil since I think with the influx of immigrants here she (and others) are more comfortable with the devil they know. As an aside, lemme just say that as the country becomes ever more "diverse" and south americans and asians gain more power, the Race Pimps and their Lemmings are gonna be thrown a curve ball when non-White owned and operated interests don't cave to their shakedown tactics. The more recent Americans aren't going to be guilted into a damn thing.

But sort of back to the topic, I'm sure most won't fail to notice that there is often a "Black Response" to political events but even moreso to court outcomes. The OJ verdict and Rodney king verdict, being the most notable examples. It's like living on a planet with people who think they're on a different planet. This Pearson Pants case... I mean I saw a lawsuit that looked perfectly ridiculous but the woman I spoke with saw just another part of the Struggle unfolding before our eyes.

Here's another funny example of this phenomenon: In today’s Newsweek, a student at predominantly African-American North Carolina Central carried the Duke 88’s thinking to its logical, if absurd, extreme. The student said that he wanted to see the Duke students prosecuted “whether it happened or not. It would be justice for things that happened in the past.”

It's this kind of thing that you hear or read constantly that makes even those of us who might lend a sympathetic ear of understanding become utterly jaded.





velocet

Rack Moving Sale.

velocet wrote:

Jsc810 wrote:Not content with losing at trial and having to pay costs, Mr. Pearson will appeal. Now he will end up having to pay costs on appeal too.

Yeah that story is getting a lot of run in this area, since it's local and all.

Check out this letter to the editor of the Washington comPost.


Of course the link doesn't speak to all opinions in this vicinity. One woman I spoke with was dismayed by the decision. To paraphrase what she said (and staying true to the ebonics involved): "Dey [asians] think we stupit an shit. Dey worser than whi'e people bee-in all racist (*laughs because she's saying this to me, Total Whiteboy*)hahahahaaha! But srrryisly dey don't know wha's up around here and dey talk dey shit conspirin' like ands dey know we can't unnnerstan' what dey be sayin'. Dey just insensitive like an' dey act like dey don't know we was slabes an shit. The Judge [she means Pearson] wuz just fightin' back but you know dey ain't gonna give no blap man no rill say in court..."


My best guess is that she divulged this to me, her eternal enemy Evil Racist White Man Blue Eyed Devil since I think with the influx of immigrants here she (and others) are more comfortable with the devil they know. As an aside, lemme just say that as the country becomes ever more "diverse" and south americans and asians gain more power, the Race Pimps and their Lemmings are gonna be thrown a curve ball when non-White owned and operated interests don't cave to their shakedown tactics. The more recent Americans aren't going to be guilted into a damn thing.

But sort of back to the topic, I'm sure most won't fail to notice that there is often a "Black Response" to political events but even moreso to court outcomes. The OJ verdict and Rodney king verdict, being the most notable examples. It's like living on a planet with people who think they're on a different planet. This Pearson Pants case... I mean I saw a lawsuit that looked perfectly ridiculous but the woman I spoke with saw just another part of the Struggle unfolding before our eyes.

Here's another funny example of this phenomenon: In today’s Newsweek, a student at predominantly African-American North Carolina Central carried the Duke 88’s thinking to its logical, if absurd, extreme. The student said that he wanted to see the Duke students prosecuted “whether it happened or not. It would be justice for things that happened in the past.”

It's this kind of thing that you hear or read constantly that makes even those of us who might lend a sympathetic ear of understanding become utterly jaded.


velocet

How much you wanna wager he pulls the race card out this go around? That seems to be the final attempt of any black person who feels they have been wronged and lose in their attempt to get cash or satisfaction for it.

Hell, that black guy from the medical TV show Grays Anatomy that made that Anti Gay comment and was written out of the show is claiming it was a race move, on a show with a cast that has several other black people and an asian woman as regulars.

I agree with you on the idea that the more recent Americans aren't going to be guilted into a damn thing. This idea of racially motivated actions where only black people are the victims is getting seriously tedious, and when it's mexicans and asians that black people direct that racist bullshit at, they deserved to be laughed out of the courtroom. I've never once heard an asian or a mexican pull the race card when they didn't get their way.

I heard about this pants lawsuit on the Don and Mike Show while I was driving one day. This guy who has been covering the trial for a local paper called in to the show. Pierson is apparently a pants freak. The Dry cleaners offered to buy him a replacement pair of the exact same pants, they also offered him $12,00 in cash to make it go away, and he refused. He claimed in court he owned 40 or 50 pairs of pants, and when asked a simple question about why he didn't just take the offer to have the pants replaced his comment was something on the order of "you can't replace that pair of pants"

The problem with this lawsuit is he knows the law very well and is only exercising his rights according to the law.

However, this kind of bullshit really has to stop, especially from a judge.

It's unlikely he'd be able to afford to pay the legal fees of the chungs. They expect those fees to be well in excess of $100,000.

I take it you have decided to end your campaign to become president, mvscal?

mvscal wrote:A . . . platform promising to put more n...iggers behind bars . . . would be a winner.

Using that exact language?

I wish that more elites within the Republican Party were as honest as you. This country would be much better off, for sure.

Terry in Crapchester wrote:

mvscal wrote:A . . . platform promising to put more n...iggers behind bars . . . would be a winner.

Using that exact language?

I wish that more elites within the Republican Party were as honest as you. This country would be much better off, for sure.

The GOP trolls to extreme nutjobs (and the DEMOs as well, for that matter), but not this hard.

mvscal wrote:

velocet wrote:It's this kind of thing that you hear or read constantly that makes even those of us who might lend a sympathetic ear of understanding become utterly jaded.

There is absolutely no point in talking with or to a n...igger. At best, ignore them. When they inevitably make themselves obnoxious then the solution is to beat them, kill them or imprison them.

Spoken like a dude who got hit upside the head one time too many in grade school.
Or the dude with penis issues. Or the dude with anger management issues who has to keep
it bottled up because he's not supposed to say such things in public.

That goes for both of you.

TVO is right about you, mvscal. I guess others don't say anything about it because... it's
TVO. Even cokehead whoremongers can be in the right, though -- and he's right about you. Velocet is the surprise, though. I would never have guessed Velocet going down this path.
What happened to both of you, man?

Velocet, the only reason why that lady would have said what she said to you, is if she
trusted you. And here you go breaking that trust, because you hate her. You let her
talk, while the whole time you not only disagreed with her, but you hated her.
You mocked her, inside. But you didn't have the balls to mock her to her face? or to
tell her how you really felt? or to engage her in a discussion about why you disagreed?
or anything.

You didn't respect her. You know what you pulled? a Pickle. You did exactly what
Pickle always described himself doing when it came to talking to blacks. He didn't
even act amazed that blacks thought he was a friend, because he willfully cultivated
a friendship he did not feel. It was a defense mechanism with him.

I'd never expect you to engage in the same defense mechanism, Velocet. And
yet, here you go doing so. With a black lady. You only gain your balls back when you're
here, in the safety of this dead, incestuous message board. You can talk all the shit
you want about her. You can spew all the shit you were thinking, while you cultivated
a false friendliness with her. You can do anything you want. Except be real to her
where it counted.

You should have had balls, man. There are no balls in pulling the ebonics act for a bunch
of necks, trailer trash, and crackers with stock options. Why, man? Why do you
go here? You ain't supposed to be a Kevnic or a Ken; you sure as hell ain't supposed to
be a Pickle. Why, man? What happened?

Go fuck yourself, you tedious cunt.

Risa wrote:

mvscal wrote:

velocet wrote:It's this kind of thing that you hear or read constantly that makes even those of us who might lend a sympathetic ear of understanding become utterly jaded.

There is absolutely no point in talking with or to a n...igger. At best, ignore them. When they inevitably make themselves obnoxious then the solution is to beat them, kill them or imprison them.

Spoken like a dude who got hit upside the head one time too many in grade school.
Or the dude with penis issues. Or the dude with anger management issues who has to keep
it bottled up because he's not supposed to say such things in public.

That goes for both of you.

TVO is right about you, mvscal. I guess others don't say anything about it because... it's
TVO. Even cokehead whoremongers can be in the right, though -- and he's right about you. Velocet is the surprise, though. I would never have guessed Velocet going down this path.
What happened to both of you, man?

Velocet, the only reason why that lady would have said what she said to you, is if she
trusted you. And here you go breaking that trust, because you hate her. You let her
talk, while the whole time you not only disagreed with her, but you hated her.
You mocked her, inside. But you didn't have the balls to mock her to her face? or to
tell her how you really felt? or to engage her in a discussion about why you disagreed?
or anything.

You didn't respect her. You know what you pulled? a Pickle. You did exactly what
Pickle always described himself doing when it came to talking to blacks. He didn't
even act amazed that blacks thought he was a friend, because he willfully cultivated
a friendship he did not feel. It was a defense mechanism with him.

I'd never expect you to engage in the same defense mechanism, Velocet. And
yet, here you go doing so. With a black lady. You only gain your balls back when you're
here, in the safety of this dead, incestuous message board. You can talk all the shit
you want about her. You can spew all the shit you were thinking, while you cultivated
a false friendliness with her. You can do anything you want. Except be real to her
where it counted.

You should have had balls, man. There are no balls in pulling the ebonics act for a bunch
of necks, trailer trash, and crackers with stock options. Why, man? Why do you
go here? You ain't supposed to be a Kevnic or a Ken; you sure as hell ain't supposed to
be a Pickle. Why, man? What happened?

glad to see you posting your 3000 word takes again, girlfriend!!

mvscal wrote:Not at all. N...iggers are a totally insignificant political constituency. They're only 13% of the population and they don't vote.

A law and order platform promising to put more n...iggers behind bars and more Mexicans out of the fucking country would be a winner.

You have to hand it to him, he's right. That platform, given the voting demographics of this nation, would definitely be a winner.

Some folks might be put off by the stark language, but that's not a problem for professional spinsmiths. The true sentiments exist abundantly, and are there to be exploited, like Rove did with gay marriage.

The truest part is this: African-Americans as a whole are not big voters.

Fine, ok. He definitely activated a voting base with the issue.

PSUFAN wrote:

mvscal wrote:Not at all. N...iggers are a totally insignificant political constituency. They're only 13% of the population and they don't vote.

A law and order platform promising to put more n...iggers behind bars and more Mexicans out of the fucking country would be a winner.

You have to hand it to him, he's right. That platform, given the voting demographics of this nation, would definitely be a winner.

Some folks might be put off by the stark language, but that's not a problem for professional spinsmiths. The true sentiments exist abundantly, and are there to be exploited, like Rove did with gay marriage.

The truest part is this: African-Americans as a whole are not big voters.

Americans as a whole are not big voters. That is not to dismiss the millions -- of all races -- who do vote. But what was the overall percentage of Americans who voted in 2000, 2004, and 2006? Until we start using Australian tactics (on top of Mayor Daley tactics) to get people to vote, people are going to exercise their right not to vote. People do go out to vote when there's an issue of importance to them. How many of you -- including you, PSUFan -- go out and vote for every local election? how many of you know when the last local election was, and what the issues were? or do most of you just wait for the Big One; like how folks wait for the Powerball to hit the Big Jackpot before buying a ticket?

There's too much backpatting and self-congratulation going on in this thread. It's time for real talk, not divisive talk.

Anyway, off-and-on topic, according to the USAToday (yeah, I know) story, Churchgoing closely tied to voting patterns, persons who attend church regularly are usually conservative, with conservative values and are more likely to vote for the conservative platform (Republican) over the liberal. What the article didn't go into is why black churches -- which are as conservative as white churches -- vote Democrat over Republican. It just accepted it as an 'anomaly' to the white norm. That shouldn't be acceptable (like USAToday's illegal alien stance shouldn't be acceptable). The article ignored how Democrats used the faith targeting in black churches, that the article lambasts Republicans for using in white churches. I don't know what that means, but such an omission doesn't feel right. Republicans usually didn't bother to step foot into black churches once the Dixiecrats fled the Democrats, correct? With the notable exception of what happened in Texas, with Bush's family giving a shitload of money to T. D. Jakes to preach the Bush word to his megacongregation. The article also mentions the year 1972 and Nixon as a watershed, but ignores what was happening in the aftermath of the civil rights movement which (in my ignorant opinion) was much more huge.

The article doesn't go into details about such details, instead, it pulls shit like this out of it's ass: "African-Americans who often attend church are as reliably Democratic as those who don't. Frequency of church attendance seems to have limited impact on the voting patterns of Hispanics. But among whites, the political differences that church attendance signal are striking. The religion gap now dwarfs the gender gap, Green calculates. In an election that was evenly divided in 2000, women chose Democrat Al Gore over Republican George Bush by about 10 percentage points. Frequent churchgoers chose Bush over Gore by 20 points."

What's wrong with the thrust of this paragraph?

And yes, there's a chart at the USAToday site about -- presumeably -- white voting habits, broken down by church attendence, in the 2004 election. There may be more to the story than what USAToday is breaking down, for whites, but is there? I think it just shows that Republicans have outreached to churches, and Democrats need a polarizing issue where folks are voting 'against the other guy' moreso for a Democrat, in order to get even a toehold. But that's just me. And the only board that matters is scoreboard, right?

How many of you -- including you, PSUFan -- go out and vote for every local election?

I vote in every election that is held in my voting district - except when my Independent status prevents me from doing so, as it did in this past primary - and even then, I went to the voting place and tried anyway.

So that's me - how about you, Annie?

Risa wrote:And the only board that matters is scoreboard, right?

The only board that matters is the 2 x 4 that someone would use to shatter your fucking keyboard. You tedious cunt.

Risa wrote:"African-Americans who often attend church are as reliably Democratic as those who don't. Frequency of church attendance seems to have limited impact on the voting patterns of Hispanics. But among whites, the political differences that church attendance signal are striking. The religion gap now dwarfs the gender gap, Green calculates. In an election that was evenly divided in 2000, women chose Democrat Al Gore over Republican George Bush by about 10 percentage points. Frequent churchgoers chose Bush over Gore by 20 points."

What's wrong with the thrust of this paragraph?

It refers to n|ggers as African-Americans?

mvscal wrote:Not at all. N...iggers are a totally insignificant political constituency. They're only 13% of the population and they don't vote.

A law and order platform promising to put more n...iggers behind bars and more Mexicans out of the fucking country would be a winner.
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I, for one, welcome our new Mexican overlords.

Ginger, you have no idea the plans I have for you after the Consolidation. Purr.

As for your platform.............. geeze, it sure didn't work for the 2006 election did it. The Mark Foley scandal was sad, but it wasn't enough to cause what happened last year. If the illegal alien issue were the true juggernaut it should have been, then it -- and the security hole issues it represents -- should have trumped the Iraq war as a 'fuck Bush'. Unfortunately, people voted to fuck Bush for the war by voting against most of the 'get tough on immigration/secure our borders' candidates; and I have no idea how many of those who did so realized that those candidates were acting against Bush, in spite of being of the same party nominally.

Why do you insist on using the n-bomb (n-grenade, whatever)? Is a black man the father of your stepchild? I'm serious, you've got anger issues towards blacks that go beyond the pale. That's why I'm wondering if you're pulling leg. I think you're ultimately being personally contrary, but it's a contrariness which is 'safe' because of the atmosphere here.

Anyway, blacks are as law and order as anyone, if not moreso in many instances....... but blacks usually want FAIR law and order. Shit like the War on Drugs is not fair law and order. Shit like Jim Crow America wasn't fair law and order either. Fighting against both of those travesties isn't about being against law and order, it's about seeking fairness and justice in the dispersal (my spelling is shot to hell) of law and order.

You have to fight for what's right. Just because it's the law, doesn't mean it's right. For me, that also goes for the laws that make it so easy for illegals to pull their bullshit, while citizens and resident aliens are forced to pay the price.

mvscal wrote:

Risa wrote:As for your platform.............. geeze, it sure didn't work for the 2006 election did it.

They didn't run on that platform, dumbshit. In fact, Chimpy is working overtime trying to import even more of Mexico's poverty nor did he ever run on a hardcore law and order platform.

He ran on that mushy "compassionate conservative" bullshit which turned out to be code for big government liberalism. Honestly, Bubba the Rapist was more of a conservative than the Chimpster.

Uh, yes some Republicans DID run on that platform (the getting tough on the border and illegal aliens) -- and where are most of them now? Sitting at home with Henry Ford, Jr. (who's home for a different reason). Those Republicans who did so broke rank with the Kennedys, McCains and Bushs. And they paid. Their platform was more in line with what the American people -- and justice, and the law -- wants. But they got clowned; and those clowning them are probably very much unaware of how out of step Bush was with them.

Don't tell me about the Chimperor. I was there before you were, Ginger.

Now, we still need to work on your anger towards African-Americans. It's especially bullshit of you to take it out on Terry and Mrs. Crapchester, just because of whatever happened to you in Santa Ana. or wherever.

mvscal wrote:

Risa wrote:Why do you insist on using the n-bomb (n-grenade, whatever)?

Because I have absolutely zero respect for n...iggers. How many cars did you burn on Juneteenth?

I'll stop heaping scorn on n...iggers when n...iggers stop acting like subhuman animals.

This is the part where Hillbilly Jim would have come in and smacked the fuck out of you, by appealing to human compassion and decency. Is Tom still around, or did he migrate to Stucknut? He was cool.

Anyway, I went to work on Juneteenth. Just like I worked on July Fourth. What did you do? I hope you had some fire ass bbq with the kids. Juneteenth is about family. What's wrong with celebrating freedom and family? you can't really be against it, ... can you?

What happened to you, man? You also heap the same scorn on human beings for being.. beneath animals. For being nothing more than animals. You don't just try to hate on blacks, you try to hate on the human race. Why?

I looked up the stats on who won and who lost 2006, based on immigration stance among Republicans. Found some irrelevancies: http://www.cis.org/articles/2007/back307.html
* Only in the South did Latino support for the GOP remain unchanged — a stunning irony given the pervasive Southern support for border control, immigration restrictions, and generally prevalent conservatism — viewpoints commonly thought to be inimical to Hispanic political interests. * The source of the Democratic bias in Latino voting is clear: For every Latino voter living in a solid Republican county, there are 2.9 Latino voters living in places that lean Democratic or are overwhelmingly Democratic. * If the path to Republican Party identification is paved by upward economic mobility, there would be many more Latino Republicans if these last 30 years had not witnessed record levels of unskilled immigration. *Latinos weren’t the swing voters in House elections — non-Hispanic white voters were! Previous research has noted that Latinos do not reside principally in presidential battleground states (Gimpel 2004). The same is true of the mid-term 2006 toss-up congressional districts. Latino voters did not bring down the Republican majority in the U.S. House given their small numbers in the contested districts. But their loyalty to the Democrats across the board certainly did Republicans no favors in contests where the outcome was in doubt.

And some meat (an editorial from someone I always thought was Pepsi to Worldnet Daily's Coke): http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18670 -- Since the election, you may have heard pro-amnesty Republicans or liberals saying something like this, "The 2006 election proves that being tough on illegal immigration doesn't work as a political issue. Look at J.D. Hayworth, John Hostettler, Randy Graf and Henry Bonilla. After that debacle, the GOP is surely going to cave on illegal immigration now."

Well, as someone who followed the election very closely and did a better job of calling winners and losers than almost all of the political pundits out there (My final predictions: five Senate seats lost and 22-29 seats in the House lost. Final numbers: six Senate seats lost and 30 House seats), I can tell you that being tough on illegal immigration didn't hurt the GOP in 2006. Now you may be skeptical of that because it doesn't square up with the conventional wisdom that you've been hearing, but let me make a case to you. (followed by the rest of the article and those numbers I couldn't follow.)

So, why do you say that Republicans who ran on a hard immigration reform line won 2006? I don't know what's going on with Pelosi, Reid, Kennedy and the rest of the richie rich Democrats. I no longer care, mostly because of immigration and the barack obama farce.

I don't know what was really going on with recent cloture vote on the immigration bill, either. The bill apparently sucked to high heaven, but no alternative is gaining steam. I don't know if they're doing shit for show, or if they're doing shit for political points with one another, or if they're really following their people's wishes. I just don't know anymore.

By the way, I referred to Harold Ford, Jr. as Henry Ford, Jr. earlier. I apologize for that. He's black in a Wentworth Miller way, his family has a shitload of money, he's from Tennessee, i know nothing about his politics or why he'd be good for Tennessee, except he seemed to be running a campaign that was speaking to stereotypical conservative concerns, the Democrats just seemed to want another black, and the Republicans played dirty politics by using the spectre of miscegenation and the Playboy mansion against him. But his name isn't Henry. And I apologize.

mvscal wrote:

Risa wrote:Uh, yes some Republicans DID run on that platform (the getting tough on the border and illegal aliens) -- and where are most of them now?

They won. The Bushbots took it up the ass and were replaced by the conservative Dems who are giving Chemical Peelosi such a hard time in the House.

Juneteenth is about family. What's wrong with celebrating freedom and family?

For n...iggers across the country it was more about rioting. Time to face facts, kid. N...iggers suck shit through a straw. What are you going to do about it?

Chemical Peelosi is solid. That grill looks like its been sandblasted.