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Overall, i'd give our draft a B+. We addressed huge needs with very talented players, and only reached on one pick.




1. The Russell pick speaks for itself. The guy is flat out incredible.

2. Zach Miller: TE. A+. This guy is that fucking good. I got to see him many times here in Pac-10 land, and he is a smart football player who runs excellent routes, has great hands, and always seems to find the soft area of a defense quickly. Dude has average speed, but serious hops. He will fill our TE void well.

3. Quentin Moses: DE. Have only seen clips of him, and a fast 6'6" end who is 261 fills another obvious hole on the other side of Burgess.

4. Mario Henderson: T. 6'7" 302 pound Tackle who posesses great lineman speed and is a great pass blocker. On obvious choice for our zone blocking scheme. THe only knock against him is his run blocking.........we'll see if Cable can correct that flaw.

5. John Lee Higgins: WR. Never seen him, and cant comment. I'll pull a Paul and ctrl-C SI's review:

POSITIVES: Explosive athlete with the ability to break games open in a variety of ways. Quick getting to top speed, displays sharpness running routes and gets separation from defenders. Uses his frame to protect the pass and extends to pull the ball from the air.

NEGATIVES: Does not consistently win out in battles against larger opponents. Has a history of back problems. Does not present himself as a consistent deep threat.

ANALYSIS: A tremendous athlete who strikes fear in opposing defensive backs, Higgins offers immense potential for the next level. Needs to improve his playing strength without losing quickness, yet shows a relatively complete game and could be an outstanding slot receiver.

PROJECTION: Late Second Round


6. Micheal Bush: RB. A+ for this pick as well. Top 15 pick before breaking his leg in his senior season. A record breaking strong back who is patient in waiting for blocks to develop. Fuckit, everybody who watches college ball knows how good this guy is.

7. John Bowie: DB. A classic Al reach-dude is an extremely fast CB who has a ton of raw talent and needs to be developed. Welcome to your new project, Ryan.

8. Jay Richardson: DE. We ALL saw this guy at one time or another with Ohio state this year. Dude is big (6'6"), fast, and another DE to develop and rotate in on either side. Good pick.

9. Eric Frampton: Safety. Another Pac-10 guy. I really, really like this pick. This guy wasnt flashy, but he made consistent play after consistent play (87 tackles his JR year, 100 tackles 5 int's his senior year) Dude is physical as hell, very athletic, and loves to hit. Raidernation will LOVE this guy.

10. Oren ONeal: Fullback. Havent seen this guy, so i'll let SI do the talking: Tough, hard-working lead blocker with limited potential as an offensive threat. Attacks assignments, jolts opponents at the point of attack and displays terrific vision. Seals opponents from the action and plays with leverage. Picks up blocking assignments and helps out as a safety-valve receiver.

11. Johnathan Holland: WR. Another Al "speed" pick. Heres SI with the Ktrl-C Paul breakdown: Track and field sprint champion, with experience as a return specialist.

Well-built receiver still transferring his athletic skills onto the football field. Plays with good body control and effectively uses the sidelines. Flashes quickness into routes, stays low on exit and shields opponents away with his frame.





If my Raider bretheren have any further info on the cats I havent seen, lets hear it.

I agree with the B+ grade, James.

Of course the only way to accurately grade a draft is to revisit it in 5-or-so years.

On paper, it went very well for Oakland.
Possible QB and RB of the future (4th round ... wow) in the same draft.

I said in another thread that I particularly like the Miller pick and the Higgins pick.
I believe they're both gonna be playahs for us.

I might have liked to see us pick up a DT, but I guess resigning Turd 'satisfied' our people.
Perhaps Antj Hawth may be ready to get some reps for us at DT too .... fingers crossed.


Final grades for the other West teams.

SD: D+
Den: B-
KC: D+

Oakland kicked your ass.

Suck it.

poptart wrote:I agree with the B+ grade, James.

Of course the only way to accurately grade a draft is to revisit it in 5-or-so years.

On paper, it went very well for Oakland.
Possible QB and RB of the future (4th round ... wow) in the same draft.

I said in another thread that I particularly like the Miller pick and the Higgins pick.
I believe they're both gonna be playahs for us.

I might have liked to see us pick up a DT, but I guess resigning Turd 'satisfied' our people.
Perhaps Antj Hawth may be ready to get some reps for us at DT too .... fingers crossed.


Final grades for the other West teams.

SD: D+
Den: B-
KC: D+

Oakland kicked your ass.

Suck it.

..... yep Oakland kicked our ass...in the draft (perhaps)


...of course where it counts...ON THE FIELD:

2003...21-14
2004...42-14
2004...23-17
2005...27-14
2005...34-10
2006...27-0
2006...21-14

all Charger wins. 7 straight


3-2-1...RJ post the trophy case! Join us in the present James.

WTF?

100 views and nobody else has a breakdown of thier teams draft and how they fared?



This isnt a 'smack' thread, its a Rate Your Team's Draft offering.






I know, its completely crazy for me to ask the lot of you football loving posters who fight with each other all the damn time to give a honest diagnosis on how your team did in one of the more important events of the year.........

Well... I have mixed feeling- I would say B- for the Iggles..

QB Kevin Kolb- Not too familair with him. Word is he is very experinced in running the spread offense and shouldn't need to much to step up to the NFL level. My main concern is where they drafted him. I think they went a little high- but with McNabb over 30 now with a history of injuries- they need to start planning for a few years down the road. Word round the campfire here is that McNabb is due a 9 milion dollar bonus next year- and may not be around after this year. Not sure how I feel about that- barring injuries- he is a top 5 QB in the league.

DE Victor Abrimani (sp?)- A big DE that is decent against the rush. Adding him into the mix with our DE will help greatly- and he will provide size and some quickness. With Kearse back, Howard, Cole, etc... I think he'll fit right in.

OLB Stewart Bradley- Big farm boy from Nebraska. Strong point is against the rush- which is something the Eagles need. Plus- he has to be better then Dahani Jones

RB Tony Hunt- My favoprite pick up of the draft. Hunt is the perfect complement to B-West. A big boy who likes to pund the ball. He will get them the 2-3 yards when needed and also gives a 3rd down presnce defenses must respect- which allow Reid to work in some 3rd and short passes to Westbrook which will lead to big pickups.

The two Defensive secondary guys (Cj Gaddis and Rashad Barksdale) seem to have alot of upside with some good coahing... but I don't know much about them. They picked up a huge TE (Brent Calek 6'4", 261) Which will be great as a blocker, and reportedly has a good burst for a big guy- so can get out in the flat and beat down through some blockers with his size (hopefully). Finally- Nate Ilola- a 5'8, 245 lb FB. I watched some vidoe of this guy on line and I love him. Short, Squat, punishing hits and a has a decent burst of speed...

Overall- a so-so draft- but they are plannign for the future not addressing immediate needs as much. I would have preferred them to move up to get a Safety or corner- but since the people they wanted were not there- they moved down. I still have alot of problem with them trading their 1st round pick to Dallas of al teams. I think Anthony Spencer is going to haunt us forever now...

Steelers fan reporting.

I like the linebackers they picked in rounds 1&2 and am now certain that the Steelers will stick to a 3-4. Timmons will eventual replace Porter and Woodley can replace Haggans. Both solid moves.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see about Matt Spaeth in the 3rd round. 6'7" 270 lb guys with hands good enough to win the Mackey don't grow on trees. If he can block at the NFL level, he'll be a great pickup.

Daniel Sepulveda in the 4th round might have been a reach. God knows Al Davis would approve of drafting a 2 time Ray Guy Award winner.

As for the later rounds, I'm sure they'll find some diamonds in the rough. But it's way too early to say who and where.

I'm not happy about the RB situation unless the potential Marion Barber clone they picked up in UFA in Gary Russell pans out. He did run for 1,274 yards and 18 touchdowns in 2005 as Laurence Maroney's backup. But he also failed out of college. So he might not be the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree.

Overall, I'd say I feel OK about the draft. It's not like the Steelers need to bring in a shitload of playmakers to win games next year. They need to cut down on stupid mistakes and stay healthy. If pressed for a letter grade, I'd say B minus for this year.

Raydah James wrote:WTF?

100 views and nobody else has a breakdown of thier teams draft and how they fared?



This isnt a 'smack' thread, its a Rate Your Team's Draft offering.






I know, its completely crazy for me to ask the lot of you football loving posters who fight with each other all the damn time to give a honest diagnosis on how your team did in one of the more important events of the year.........

It's a far easier task to rate out your draft when you draft first. Drafting 30th...who the heck knows, about all you can go on is the media hype, and the so called guru's. I'll give it a shot.



Craig Davis..WR..LSU..30th. overall..6'2" 205

JaMarcus Russell's second favorite target (reportedly JaMarcus did not care for Davis). Best attribute: YAC yards, the ability to breakaway after catch. Excellent hands, 4.37 speed (4.4 at the compound).

Eric Weedle..SS..Utah..37th overall..5'11"??

2004..Freshman All-American first-team,
2005 Mountain West Conference Defensive Player of the Year, first-team All-MWC, second-team All-American and Emerald Bowl Defensive MVP honors in.
2006, First-team All-American choice by The NFL Draft Report, American Football Coaches Association, Sports Illustrated, The Sporting News, College Football News and Rivals.com, adding second-team honors from the Walter Camp Foundation and Associated Press.

Who knows?

Anthony Waters..LB..Clemson..96th. overall..6'3"..245

As a senior, he managed three tackles and two pressures before blowing out his knee vs. Florida Atlantic. He suited up for the team’s final two games, but the medical staff would not clear him to return to the field, thus ending his career on the sidelines.

Bwhaha..a real crapshoot

I'd say getting Davis at #30 rates out a B+
Weedle at # 37.................................. C
Waters at # 96.................................. D based on the stellar senior year mentioned above

Chiefs

1. Dwayne Bowe - I wouldn't have minded going with Staley with this pic. The Chiefs obviously have other plans or feel confident with the o-line players currently on the roster. I think Mike Solari and the o-line coach do a pretty good job of taking not so highly drafted players and turning them into respectable contributors. As far as Bowe he is a big physical WR with decent speed. His lasik eye surgery greatly helped him in his last season at LSU. He's not afraid to go over the middle and is a great blocker. I think he fits the offense well. I think the Chiefs had their hearts set on Aaron Ross but missed out when the Giants took him at 20. Overall I give this pick a B.

2. Turk McBride - I don't know much about this guy. I know the Chiefs discovered him while watching film on Harrell. He kept showing up and I guess the Chiefs seen enough to invest a 2nd rd pick in the guy. He's a versatile player and can fill in for Jared Allen at RE while he serves his suspension. I think ultimately he will end up as a DT. I would rather they grabbed some Oline help here but they still filled a need. I grade this pick a C.

3. Tank Tyler - This guy is a beast and should do a nice job as the space eating DT the Chiefs have desperately needed. He's strong as an ox and has a pretty quick first step for a big man. He probably would have been a late first or early to mid second rd pick if not for the off field issues. I think the Chiefs got great value with this pick. Grade A

No 4th rd. pick

5(a). Kolby Smith - This kid filled in nicely for Bush (nice pick Al) after he broke his leg. Good size and decent speed. He's also got good hands and has been compared to Kimble Anders. The Chiefs desperately needed a solid guy to help spell Johnson. Bennett is a solid backup but he can't seem to stay healthy. I'm kinda urked they spent a 4th on him to be honest. Smith is also big enough to help out at FB as well. This probably wasn't the biggest need for the Chiefs. However I believe they got pretty good value. Grade B-

5(b). Justin Medlock - A kicker? Well the Chiefs obviously aren't too happy with Tynes. He missed some key field goals last year including a chip shot in the playoffs. Many people think if we were going to take a kicker we should have taken Crosby. I can't really argue with that. Medlock has some off field issues and didn't quite have the college career Crosby had. One interesting note is in the kicking competition held recently Medlock smoked Crosby. I also believe there was one other kicker taken before Crosby. So maybe the fact that he kicked in altitude much of time scared some teams off. I believe Medlock beats out Tynes in camp. Tynes will then either be release or hopefully traded. Grade C

6. Herb Taylor - From what I've read he's a smart player who probably projects more as a guard than a tackle. Time will tell. You never really know on these late round pics. Hopefully Solari and company can fine tune this guy and get some use out of him in the future. Grade C

7. Michael Allan - A division 3 TE that dominated at his level. He was also a basketball player. He has good size, speed and hands. The leap from divsion 3 to the NFL is definitely huge. I see this kid as a special teams player or practice squad guy. He has a lot of potential and may possibly replace Jason Dunn as he's getting up their in age. Grade C


Overall I think the Chiefs stayed true to their board. A lot of the guys they wanted kept getting picked right in front of them. That is just how the draft goes sometimes. They filled needs and got a couple decent value picks. I really like the Bowe, Tyler and Smith picks. I project all players except the 6th and 7th rd picks to see significant playing time this season. You never know with those guys though. Last season our 5th rd pick never saw the field and our 7th round pick played a significant amount of snaps. I'd say our 2006 draft was pretty darn good. I think Kuharic and Edwards influence has really improved our drafting. I fully expect them to have done a decent job again this year.

Overall Grade C+ or borderline B-

New England added pieces to their puzzle via trades and free agency. They traded out most of their early picks for future considerations.

They had 9 selections, but only one on the first day of the draft and 2/3 of their picks came in Rounds 6 and 7. They needed help in the secondary with Harrison getting older. I liked the Merriweather pick, but dude is a Hurrigansta who apparently loves guns, so we'll see how that plays out.

With their next pick (they had none in Rds 2 and 3) they selected another Hurrigansta in Rd 4, DT Kareem Brown. They are stacked along the defensive line, so I didn't really understand this pick. He adds some depth if he makes the team, but I don't see him ever making a huge impact.

Other holes they needed to fill were at linebacker and they selected two dudes I've never heard of in rounds 6 and 7.

Overall, I'd give them a C-.... like I said, they traded out some picks for '08 and also traded a 4th rounder for Moss.

Raydah James wrote:WTF?

100 views and nobody else has a breakdown of thier teams draft and how they fared?



This isnt a 'smack' thread, its a Rate Your Team's Draft offering.






I know, its completely crazy for me to ask the lot of you football loving posters who fight with each other all the damn time to give a honest diagnosis on how your team did in one of the more important events of the year.........

Or you could just read the Tuesday Morning Quarterback review of the draft:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/st ... d=tab2pos1

Down at the bottom there’s some good stuff on Mel Kiper, Draft Egg-spurt.

Also, according to the last paragraph, SoCalTrjn's brother apparently coaches baseball at Bridgewater (Mass.) State College.

Goober McTuber wrote:
Or you could just read the Tuesday Morning Quarterback review of the draft:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/st ... d=tab2pos1

Which flat-out sucks because the writer is a drive by bitch of a casual fan who wouldnt know a player breakdown if it slapped him in the mouth.



Basically, Too much sugarcoating bullshit goes on the draft. In fact, its fucking reacharound central with most of those guys.






You representing Packfan? Throw down your unbiased opinion on why you thought your team did well or fucking sucked.

Also, according to the last paragraph, SoCalTrjn's brother apparently coaches baseball at Bridgewater (Mass.) State College.

I'll check it out just because of this............

Goober McTuber wrote:Also, according to the last paragraph, SoCalTrjn's brother apparently coaches baseball at Bridgewater (Mass.) State College.

"Bridgewater coach Rick Smith kept his starting pitcher in five innings, though Bridgewater led 31-0 at the end of the third, and played only 17 of his 29 players despite the bench-clearing lead.."


What if the guy he left in was his worst pitcher? Why tax his bullpen against a shit team? I wonder how many of the 12 dudes who didn't play were pitchers. Again, why tax the bullpen? Typical liberal pussified reporting. Whoever wrote this rubbish needs a boot up their ass.

Hard to say insofar as Denver's draft goes....most Bronco fans I've talked to essentially say the same thing when asked about how they thought Denver's draft went.....

universally the response is wtf? How about picking up another big time receiver....Rod Smith was showing signs of losing a step or two three years ago....l'll bet he's even slower now....

three defensive linemen (two with character issues) and one offensive lineman..... :?

loved this blurb on Javis Moss.....

Denver: Denver traded up from the 21st to 17th positions to get Jarvis Moss. Cincinnati was drafting at 18th, and perhaps the Broncos feared that because there were clouds over Moss' reputation, he was sure to be the Bengals' choice.

I'm not sure why Denver traded up four spots to get him (I'll bet he would have still been there)

hopefully the additions of Moss and Tim Crowder will address the Bronco's dire need for a strong pass rusher...

Ryan Harris, don't know much about him...

Marcus Thomas apparently likes to partake of herb, so Shanny and Co. will have to deal with that...

overall I'd have to say I HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA....but knowledgeable types say Denver had a pretty good draft, so I'll have to take their word for it......

Raydah James wrote:
You representing Packfan? Throw down your unbiased opinion on why you thought your team did well or fucking sucked.

Sorry, I did that in another thread somewhere. I thought it was one of the single worst drafting efforts I've witnessed in at least 40 years. I think it has something to do with Ted Thompson being in charge.

First round pick was a DL from Tennessee who was hurt most of last year. I would rather have seen them take Brady Quinn, since Aaron Rogers is not going to be the answer.

Second round was a running back from Nebraska who started a total of 11 games in his career. Also has had surgery on both shoulders.

It went downhill from there.

I admit I wasn't fond of the Boys draft at first glance. However after having a chance to calm down this is my take.

(1) Anthony Spencer - My first reaction was who???? Anyways, it is comforting to know that most offensive tackles in the Big 10 say that he was the toughest defensive end they had to block. he should serve as an excellent backup to Ware and Ellis this year. If Ellis is not able to perform like he used to than I could see this cat cracking the starting lineup. the fact we gave up the 22nd pick and got the same guy with the 26th pick AND picked up Clevelands first next year makes this move alone an A+.

(3) James Marten - Don't know much about this guy but saw highlights. Looks like a badass, but you never know in the NFL. the fact that he can play multiple positions on the offensive line makes him a quality pick.

(4) Isaiah Stanback - At first I said a QB?? WTF? Add to it that I thought we should have learned with the whole Quintcy Carter experiment, and I was left scratching my head. However, upon further reading this cat is going to play wide receiver. Not sure how he is going to fit in with our receiving corps. We have veterans in Glenn and Owens, along with youth like Crayton, Austin and Hurd. A bit of a stretch here.

(4) Doug Free - Another versatile offensive lineman. I guess you can never have enough depth on the offensive line. At this point I am saying FUCKING FREE SAFETY JERRY!!!!!!

(5) Nick Folk - A freakin kicker? Well I know it sounds funny but the Boys do need some stability on our kickoffs and field goals. South American jumping bean may have another year left in him so this draft pick made some sense. Hey, at least it wasn't in the first round.

(6) Deon Anderson - A old school fullback who brings a load when he blocks. This is something the Boys have been lacking since Moose was in town. the only concern here is the off field problems this kid had. He acts up in the NFL and he won't be lasting too long with the new Commish in town. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

(7) Courtney Brown - This was the best draft pick the Cowboys made. The Dude is from THE Cal Poly University. I got nothing but love for my alma mater. He was slated to play at Cal, but his scholarship fell through so he played at a little known school. I just hope he's division 1 talent playing at a division 2 school.

(7) Alan Ball - No idea about this kid. A small cornerback but has some speed. I am guessing they brought him in to replace their draft pick of last year, Skyler Green, as a return specialist.

There ya have it. I am not salivating at this years draft, but after giving it some thought I am not hating it. I would give them a C+. This grade will change to a B+ if Cleveland sucks cock this year.

It is hard to give the Skins a grade with so few picks. If you count the players they picked with the picks they had available, I would give them a C+. If you account for what they did with the picks before the draft, I would give them an F.

The Player Picks:

1 LaRon Landry DS LSU – I am not as upset at this pick as most Skins fans seem to be. I am in the camp that thinks a lot of the D-Line woes from last season stem from the unfathomable inability of the CBs or LBs to tackle or cover. It is hard to be upset with the best D player available.

5 Dallas Sartz OLB USC – I am not very familiar with this dude. Some experts claim he was a steal, others claim he is undersized. I have a feeling that if he makes the team it will be primarily as a special teamer.

6 HB Blades ILB PITTSBURGH – A projected 4th rounder who slipped to the 6th due to size. What he lacks in size and strength, he seems to make up for with brains. Not a starter, but could be a decent back-up and STer.

6 31(205) Jordan Palmer QB UTEP – Jason Campbell’s backups are 35 and 36 years old. What does it hurt to pick up a kid to learn the offense and be a potential third-stringer.

7 6(216) Tyler Ecker TE MICHIGAN - Who knows? He is a 7th rounder.

The Wasted Picks:

2nd Round – I think they gave up this pick last year to move up in the draft to pick Rocky Macintosh, who played maybe 2 games last year. Brilliant!

3rd Round – I believe this pick was a part of that clusterfuck 3-way deal to let TJ Duckett rot on the bench. The theory is that he was picked up so the Eagles could not get him. Brilliant!

4th Round – This pick, along with a 3rd rounder from last year, were given up to acquire the indispensable services of Brandon Lloyd (23 catches, 365 yards, ZERO TDs). Brilliant!

Hopefully in 2008, these assholes will decide to keep all of their draft picks. They seem to do a lot less damage that way.

^^^^^^

Dude you may be a Foreskin fan but RACK you for keeping it real.

I laughed pretty fucking hard when you broke down the reasons why you had so little draft picks. There's always next year. Keep your chin up this year while the rest of the NFC Beast uses it as soccer ball.

Stuckwithya wrote:

"3rd Round – I believe this pick was a part of that clusterfuck 3-way deal to let TJ Duckett rot on the bench. The theory is that he was picked up so the Eagles could not get him. Brilliant!"


RACK...spewing here!

DallasFanatic wrote: RACK you for keeping it real.

2nd

...freeking DF must have hit submit a millisecond before I did..still rof over here

Nixhex wrote:Chiefs

1. Dwayne Bowe - I wouldn't have minded going with Staley with this pic. The Chiefs obviously have other plans or feel confident with the o-line players currently on the roster. I think Mike Solari and the o-line coach do a pretty good job of taking not so highly drafted players and turning them into respectable contributors. As far as Bowe he is a big physical WR with decent speed. His lasik eye surgery greatly helped him in his last season at LSU. He's not afraid to go over the middle and is a great blocker. I think he fits the offense well. I think the Chiefs had their hearts set on Aaron Ross but missed out when the Giants took him at 20. Overall I give this pick a B.

2. Turk McBride - I don't know much about this guy. I know the Chiefs discovered him while watching film on Harrell. He kept showing up and I guess the Chiefs seen enough to invest a 2nd rd pick in the guy. He's a versatile player and can fill in for Jared Allen at RE while he serves his suspension. I think ultimately he will end up as a DT. I would rather they grabbed some Oline help here but they still filled a need. I grade this pick a C.

3. Tank Tyler - This guy is a beast and should do a nice job as the space eating DT the Chiefs have desperately needed. He's strong as an ox and has a pretty quick first step for a big man. He probably would have been a late first or early to mid second rd pick if not for the off field issues. I think the Chiefs got great value with this pick. Grade A

No 4th rd. pick

5(a). Kolby Smith - This kid filled in nicely for Bush (nice pick Al) after he broke his leg. Good size and decent speed. He's also got good hands and has been compared to Kimble Anders. The Chiefs desperately needed a solid guy to help spell Johnson. Bennett is a solid backup but he can't seem to stay healthy. I'm kinda urked they spent a 4th on him to be honest. Smith is also big enough to help out at FB as well. This probably wasn't the biggest need for the Chiefs. However I believe they got pretty good value. Grade B-

5(b). Justin Medlock - A kicker? Well the Chiefs obviously aren't too happy with Tynes. He missed some key field goals last year including a chip shot in the playoffs. Many people think if we were going to take a kicker we should have taken Crosby. I can't really argue with that. Medlock has some off field issues and didn't quite have the college career Crosby had. One interesting note is in the kicking competition held recently Medlock smoked Crosby. I also believe there was one other kicker taken before Crosby. So maybe the fact that he kicked in altitude much of time scared some teams off. I believe Medlock beats out Tynes in camp. Tynes will then either be release or hopefully traded. Grade C

6. Herb Taylor - From what I've read he's a smart player who probably projects more as a guard than a tackle. Time will tell. You never really know on these late round pics. Hopefully Solari and company can fine tune this guy and get some use out of him in the future. Grade C

7. Michael Allan - A division 3 TE that dominated at his level. He was also a basketball player. He has good size, speed and hands. The leap from divsion 3 to the NFL is definitely huge. I see this kid as a special teams player or practice squad guy. He has a lot of potential and may possibly replace Jason Dunn as he's getting up their in age. Grade C


Overall I think the Chiefs stayed true to their board. A lot of the guys they wanted kept getting picked right in front of them. That is just how the draft goes sometimes. They filled needs and got a couple decent value picks. I really like the Bowe, Tyler and Smith picks. I project all players except the 6th and 7th rd picks to see significant playing time this season. You never know with those guys though. Last season our 5th rd pick never saw the field and our 7th round pick played a significant amount of snaps. I'd say our 2006 draft was pretty darn good. I think Kuharic and Edwards influence has really improved our drafting. I fully expect them to have done a decent job again this year.

Overall Grade C+ or borderline B-

My opinion's pretty much the same across the board, Nixhex. I would've preferred at least ONE offensive lineman in one of the early rounds, but if those guys they had projected were either gone or below where their board had them at those picks then so be it. Like you said, SO FAR last year's draft is proving to be one of the best for the Chiefs in recent years, and hopefully this one will be looked at likewise.

Fucking hell, Ktrl-C Paul.

RevLimiter wrote: My opinion's pretty much the same across the board, Nixhex.

Yesterday, Polly mimic'd:

RevLimiter wrote:

KC Scott wrote:Sorry if I don't feel like drinking the kool-aid - but here's how this mess ended up:

1 23 (23) Dwayne Bowe * WR LSU
2 22 (54) Turk McBride * DT Tennessee
3 19 (82) Tank Tyler * DT N.C. State (from St. Louis)
5 11 (148) Kolby Smith * RB Louisville (from Buffalo through St. Louis)
5 23 (160) Justin Medlock * K UCLA
6 22 (196) Herbert Taylor OG TCU
7 21 (231) Michael Allan TE Whitworth


And we needed a RB & K in the 5th round? - Just about as much as another fucking TE in 7
Sorry Slow Wagon, but this is a fucking abortion when you consider the holes on the OL.

Initial Grade: D and that only improves if Bowe proves more than the 2nd coming of Big Country Morris and McBride and Tyler last more than 2 seasons

Gotta roll with Scott on this year's abortion ERRR draft. Not real excited about who they got, other than Bowe.

Get a damn thought of your own concerning your team before shitting in this thread again, dumbfuck.

Take a lap or 20 Paul.

Fucking priceless.

Paul can probably form origami shapes in the toilet bowl easier than he can form an original thought.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Fucking priceless.

so that's what you call it.......

we may need to break out the trademark symbol again.......

Maybe we should start calling Paul KC Sybil.

Raydah James wrote:Get a damn thought of your own concerning your team before shitting in this thread again, dumbfuck.

Blah.

Blah.

Blah.

Guys, you REALLY need to come up with some new material....just because I AGREED with what Scott and Nixhex said doesn't make me a C&Per last time I checked. Grow the hell up already.

Noone said it made you a C&P'er. It makes you an absolute moron who can't give your own take to save your life. You agree on two totally different takes of your own draft. You are the complete tard paul. Sometimes its better just to shut up. Seriously, stop posting for a few months. Maybe you'll have a take by seasons opening day.

DallasFanatic wrote:Noone said it made you a C&P'er.

WRONG.

It makes you an absolute moron who can't give your own take to save your life.

WRONG AGAIN- if anything, I'm just too lazy to type out almost exactly the same opinions on our draft as the previously aforementioned. What part of that do you CONVENIENTLY not want to understand, DumbFuck???

You agree on two totally different takes of your own draft.

WRONG AGAIN- are you reading the same takes as I am???

You are the complete tard paul. Sometimes its better just to shut up. Seriously, stop posting for a few months. Maybe you'll have a take by seasons opening day.

Boy....you sure SHOWED ME!

Bye, Polly.

DallasFanatic wrote:Maybe you'll have a take by seasons opening day.

Not a fucking chance.

Stick to the topic at hand, Jamika....IF YOU CAN.

If I haven't gotten the hint that I shouldn't get too excited about any Lions draft, I'd just be setting myself up for another disappointment.

Yeah, it's cool that they got the "best player in the draft" but I am surprised they hung onto him and Millen sounded pretty damn smug in how he felt this was the guy they wanted all along. I think Mike Williams and McCown were on their way out of town anyways but I didn't think getting Johnson and a QB in the second round was this team's #1 priority. They can score tons of points but how are they going to stop anyone? I really would've preferred they traded down and got a couple more picks and went defense with that first rounder. Patrick Willis' name was getting a lot of mention locally as the draft approached and Gaines Adams has supposedly been the guy they were targeting for a while.

Everyone has a good idea of what Johnson brings to the table. He's as physically and athletically gifted as any receiver has been be coming into the NFL in quite a while. I get a little nervous when I hear comparisons to other great receivers but if he's able to produce and stay out of trouble...he's ahead of the curve for being a Lion. I have to give him some props for throwing out the first pitch at the Tigers game on Sunday and they end up winning the game with a walk-off home run...a good luck charm perhaps.

There's no question, fans here are gripping at the idea of another wide receiver early in the draft. Millen is 1 for 3 at this point with Roy entertaining thoughts of leaving after his contract is up. Johnson hopefully becomes a dynamic weapon in this offense and helps compliment Williams. Martz seems intrigued with the idea of having him in his offense...thoughts of Bruce and Holt come to mind when he thinks of CJ and Roy. The possibilities are exciting but LionFan has been burned before when Millen tried to trot out his video game offense with Harrington, Jones, Roy and Mike Williams and Rogers. Only Jones and Roy remain out of those players...three first round picks have been shown the door. Most GMs would've been on their ass for that but it's the Lions...they don't exactly do things by the book.

I'm plenty familiar with Stanton as a QB. I roll my eyes at the thought of another MSU star joining the Lions after the great success of Sedric Irvin and Charles Rogers. Can't forget the fact they signed T.J. Duckett in the offseason. Spartans haven't exactly faired to well in Detroit. Michigan players on the other hand have had better luck. David Harris was a guy they could've gotten with that pick in the second round before they traded down to get Stanton...the Lions definitely need help at linebacker.

Alama-Francis is an interesting prospect. He's a former hoops and volleyball player in high school and hadn't played football prior to his days at Hawaii. I don't think he's comparable to Adams as DE prospect but drafting a guy to rush the passer was something they needed to address.
He sounds like he's a very athletic guy at the end spot and they desperately need a good edge rusher. He has bloodlines in the NFL...his dad Joe Francis was a QB for the Packers back in the Lombardi days.

I'm not too familar with Gerald Alexander other than the fact he played for Boise State. LaRon Landry was a guy I hoped they would trade down in the first round to get because safety is another one of many weak spots on the defensive side of the ball. A.J. Davis was thought of an early round pick but never ran at the combine because of injury. He's kind of a wild card prospect as a corner and he was the player taken with that fourth round pick the Lions got in return from the Raiders for Williams and McCown. Big, strong guard Manny Ramirez out of Texas Tech, small but athletic linebacker Johnny Baldwin out of Alabama A&M and Alabama's Ramzee Robinson, this year's Mr. Irrelevant round out the Lions draft.

My grade: B

DallasFanatic wrote:^^^^^^

Dude you may be a Foreskin fan but RACK you for keeping it real.

I laughed pretty fucking hard when you broke down the reasons why you had so little draft picks. There's always next year. Keep your chin up this year while the rest of the NFC Beast uses it as soccer ball.

Indeed, it'd be nice to have the teams in the NFC East actually earn their positions in the standings for once rather than Dan Snyder and the WOP doing it for them.

Give me five years and I'll grade this draft. Its dopey to try and do it five days afterwards.

See You Next Wednesday wrote:Give me five years and I'll grade this draft. Its dopey to try and do it five days afterwards.

Just so you know, this is a grade based on a fan's pespective. We're not asking you to be the GM of your ball club. But get back to us in 5 years.

:roll:

Shoalzie wrote:I'm plenty familiar with Stanton as a QB. I roll my eyes at the thought of another MSU star joining the Lions after the great success of Sedric Irvin and Charles Rogers. Can't forget the fact they signed T.J. Duckett in the offseason. Spartans haven't exactly faired to well in Detroit. Michigan players on the other hand have had better luck. David Harris was a guy they could've gotten with that pick in the second round before they traded down to get Stanton...the Lions definitely need help at linebacker.

When Stanton actually does pan out, and you so much as attempt to step one foot back onto the bandwagon, I'll be there to kick you the fuck off.

Felix wrote: overall I'd have to say I HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA

Woah! Talk about a meatball just begging to go yard. The fun I could have with that shall be left for another day, because quite frankly...

You're best post ever, and honest to boot. Most of us could or should say the same. But just one question. What'd you think about Dungver giving up their 3rd and 6th round pick to move up a whole four slots in the draft to ensure they got Moss?

I thought it was hilarious.

As for KC, I stated my opinions in another thread and don't care to repeat myself.

B+ despite Scott's recriminations. We could have drafted 5 future HoF'ers and he'd still be bitching about it. Scott ain't happy unless he's got something to complain about.

Nice breakdowns by Nix, btw. I agree completely except for this:

Bennett is a solid backup but he can't seem to stay healthy. I'm kinda urked they spent a 4th on him to be honest.

Bennett pulled a hammy in some stupid after practice foot race and missed like 4 games. Other than that, I don't think he had too many problems being available. They just didn't use him enough because they couldn't stand having LJ on the sideline. It seemed every time he did get the ball, good things happened. Well worth a 4th round pick, IMO.

War Wagon wrote: Scott ain't happy unless he's got something to complain about.

If your talking about the Chiefs - you are Correct.

Life in general is pretty good though.

The Texans had a solid draft. Before the draft Rick Smith addressed the needs of the team. They wanted to get a DT, WR and add depth in the line and secondary:

1st: DT Amobi Okoye: Solid pick who fills a major need. Travis Johnson hasn't done shit and we released Seth Payne. We need a quick big guy to take the double teams off of Mario Andretti Williams Huge need filled and we now have a pretty solid line.

2nd: Traded to Atlanta for Matt Schaub. Since we got rid of David Carr, I rate this a big success.

3rd: WR Jacoby Jones. Nice pick up. I think that every team is looking for their own Marques Colston. In the 3rd round? We shall see. We needed depth at WR and he is big and fast. He turned a ton of heads at all the college all star games. We will see.

4th: CB Fred Bennett. We have done well with S Carolina DB's. We needed a big, physical, and fast DB to play in the nickel. I like the pick as the guy has good speed and great size. He was also mentored by Duante Robinson when he was a freshman.

5th: S Brandon Harrison. He is versatile. He played half the games as a CB and half as a safety. He is big and fast. We can never have enough depth in the secondary. It is amazing how a pass rush can make the DB's look good.

5th: OT Brandon Frye. Big guy who played at VT for 4 years. He is quick and can also play center. That's the word around the campfire. We need depth there. Nice pick

6th: OG Kasey Studdard. I like this pick. Kasey is a very good run blocker and needs to work on the pass blocking. Kubiak played with his dad in Denver and know's what he is getting. He commented that he couldn't believe he was still on the board. Very physical and strong.

7th: LB Zach Diles. Good looking LB who isn't real big but plays with a great mind. He is fluid and impressed the coaches at the Texas bowl. I think he may have a chance to make the team as a special teams player.

Overall, I give this draft a B.

Harvdog wrote:2nd: Traded to Atlanta for Matt Schaub. Since we got rid of David Carr, I rate this a big success.

Hilarious.

Will you still rate that a "big success" after Carr finds out in Carolina what it's like to play QB behind an actual NFL-caliber offensive line and rips the starting yob from Jake Delhomme?

Until the Texans figure out that they should probably get some GOOD offensive lineman to protect their QB (doesn't matter who he is, anybody taking snaps for that team should strongly consider a GOOD life insurance policy), they will never piss a drop.