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Bo Jackson

Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 7:58 pm
by KC Scott
Read this in the KCStar today - just wanted to rack Bo having seen a few of these things as they happened over the years:

http://www.kansascity.com/180/story/124608.html
20 YEARS AGO | Jackson’s brief Royals career remains almost mythicalCOMMENTARY
The legend of Bo
Bo Jackson didn’t believe the hype, saying he was just another guy. But really, he was superhuman.
By JOE POSNANSKI

OK, so one day in New York, Bo Jackson complained in the dugout before a game. Reporters surrounded Bo, which never made him happy anyway. Reporters wanted to explain things, and Bo Jackson wasn’t about explaining. Bo was about doing.

“Everything I do, people tend to exaggerate it,” he moaned. “With me, they want to make things bigger than they are.”

Bo said he was just another guy. He wasn’t some sort of folk hero, like John Henry or Pecos Bill. No, he hurt like other players. He made mistakes like other players. He struck out a lot. He wasn’t forged out of steel, and he couldn’t outrun locomotives, and he couldn’t turn back time by flying around the world and reversing the rotation of the earth.

“I’m just another player, you know?” he said.

Then the game began, Royals vs. Yankees at Yankee Stadium.

First time up, Bo hit a 412-foot homer to center field.

Second time up, Bo smashed a 464-foot opposite-field home run. Longtime Yankees fans said that ball landed in a far-off place where only home runs by Ruth, Gehrig and Mantle from the left side ever reached.

“Colossal,” teammate George Brett would say. “I had to stop and watch.”

Third time up, Yankees manager Stump Merrill walked out to the mound to ask pitcher Andy Hawkins how he intended to get Bo out this time.

“I’ll pitch it outside,” Hawkins said.

“It better be way outside,” Merrill replied.

Hawkins threw it way outside. Jackson poked the ball over the right-field fence for his third homer. The New York crowd went bananas.

Bo never got a fourth time up that day. Instead, Bo hurt his shoulder while diving and almost making one of the great catches in baseball history. New Yorkers stood and cheered Bo as he walked off the field. It’s possible that no opposing player ever heard those sorts of cheers at Yankee Stadium.

“You know what?” Royals Hall of Famer Frank White would say almost 20 years later. “I really did play baseball with Superman.”

•••

Yes, you read that right — it has been 20 years since Bo Jackson was a rookie. That means there is an entire generation of young baseball fans who never experienced that incomparable thrill of watching Bo play baseball.

How can you explain Bo Jackson to a kid today? Old-time baseball fans and scouts are always telling tall tales about players — they will say, “Oh, you should have seen Mickey Mantle before he hurt his knees; he ran so fast he could bunt for doubles.” They will say: “Before Pete Reiser started running into walls, he could play left field and center field at the same time.” They will say, “There was nobody quite like Monte Irvin before he went to war; he used to hit for the cycle three times a week.”

So what makes Bo different? Well, for one thing, it’s all on video. Bo really did break a baseball bat over his thigh after striking out. Bo really did throw a ball from left field all the way to first base on a fly to double-up Hall of Fame catcher Carlton Fisk. Bo really did, in his spare time, transform into the most sensational running back the NFL has ever seen. He really did … well, he really did a lot of stuff.

First time I ever saw Bo Jackson was in 1986 in a makeshift ballpark in Charlotte, N.C. He had just started his pro baseball career, and even then it seemed a bit surreal. Bo had won the Heisman Trophy at Auburn. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers picked him No. 1 overall, of course, sent a limo to pick him up and drive him to Canton, where sculptors were already working on his Pro Football Hall of Fame bust.

Instead, he signed to play baseball with the Royals.

“That day we signed Bo was one of my greatest days in professional baseball,” says Art Stewart, now the Royals’ senior adviser to the general manager. “There was just nobody like this guy.”

On the day Bo signed, he asked whether he could take batting practice. Bo had not swung a bat in months. He hit the first pitch he saw off the base of the crown scoreboard in center field. It had to fly 450 feet. Avron Fogelman, who co-owned the Royals, shouted: “Get me that baseball.” Bo promptly hit the second ball he saw to almost the exact same spot, off the base of the scoreboard.

“Get me that ball, too,” Fogelman said.

That was the day that Buck O’Neil heard the sound — a crack of the bat he heard only three times in his life. The first time he heard it was as a boy, when he watched Babe Ruth take batting practice. The second time was as a player in the Negro Leagues, and the player was Josh Gibson. The third time was Bo that first day in Kansas City.

“You had to rub your eyes,” Art Stewart said. “Because you couldn’t believe what you were seeing.”

A short while later Bo was playing for the Memphis Chicks in that little park in Charlotte. He muscled a long fly ball over the Krispy Kreme sign in left-field.

“That was Bo Jackson’s first professional home run,” the public-address announcer said.

Everybody cheered. And then someone pointed and shouted, “He broke his bat.”

Yes, kids. Bo Jackson broke his bat on his first professional home run.

That’s the kind of guy we’re talking about here.

•••

Bo Jackson was always grouchily unimpressed with himself. Michael Jordan thought that was part of Bo’s magic. “Neither of us is very easily amazed,” Jordan told Newsweek in those days when he and Bo were the two greatest athletes in the world. “You have to expect things of yourself before you can do them.”

So when Bo Jackson was called up to the big leagues that September after only 53 minor-league games, he shrugged. When he had his first four-hit game in only his fifth game, he announced, “It’s just another night.” Two days after that, he faced Seattle’s Mike Moore, a power pitcher who would win 161 games in the big leagues. Before the game, Bo went over to Willie Wilson’s bats, liked the feel of one, and announced, “This is mine.”

With Willie’s bat, Bo Jackson hit a 475-foot blast to left-center. It was the longest home run ever hit at Royals Stadium.

Yes, kids. Bo Jackson’s first major-league home run flew 475 feet.

“It felt good,” Bo said, “But it can only last a couple of minutes. Everybody was oohing and ahhing and giving me high fives. You know the usual stuff that goes on.”

You know. The usual stuff.

“There’s something about Bo,” Royals general manager John Schuerholz said then. “Call it mystical or magical.”

•••

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Nobody had any idea what to make of Bo Jackson. On the one hand, he really didn’t know how to play baseball. He was striking out nearly every other at-bat. Fly balls were an adventure. He needed time to learn … but there was no time. He was playing football. He was a Nike icon — Bo Knows commercials were the hottest thing in sports. He was too big a star to ride minor-league buses.

“I think if Bo had been able to stay healthy and been given time to learn the game, he would have been a Hall of Famer,” says Allard Baird, who was working as a scout for the Royals at the time. “I have no doubt in my mind about that. He had everything you could want in a player. Everything. But that just wasn’t Bo’s destiny.”

No, instead, Bo’s destiny was to become a comic book hero.

•September 2, 1986: Bo’s first game. His first at-bat was against Hall of Famer Steve Carlton. He hit a ground ball to second base, and Tim Hulett picked it up and threw to first — only Bo was already past the bag.

“Oh man, nothing that big should move that fast,” said Royals Hall of Famer and former hitting coach John Mayberry.

•April 14, 1987: Bo Jackson faced Detroit’s Nate Snell with the bases loaded. In spring training that year, Snell had forced Bo to pop out with the bases loaded and Bo threw his bat and glared at Snell.

“Bo was the kind of guy who wanted to prove you wrong,” Frank White says. “If you told him he couldn’t do something, he would do it.”

Snell threw a fastball, and Bo crushed it. Grand slam. It was his fourth hit of the day, his second homer, seventh RBI. He also stole a base. When the bat boy picked up the bat, he realized something. Bo had broken his bat on the homer again.

•July 29, 1988: Bo Jackson was facing Baltimore’s Jeff Ballard. He called timeout and stepped out of the box. He adjusted his batting glove when he realized that the umpire did not actually grant his timeout, and Ballard was throwing the ball. Jackson jumped back into the box, swung that bat and … yeah. He hit a home run.

“Most amazing thing I’ve ever seen in my life,” says Bob Schaeffer, Kansas City’s first-base coach at the time.

•May 15, 1989: Legendary baseball writer Peter Gammons was in Minnesota to write a Sports Illustrated cover story about Jackson, so he watched Bo take batting practice. It was a typical Bo hitting session — he cracked rockets all over the field. Then it was time for his last swing. Bo jumped into the cage and hit left-handed.

He hit a titanic shot 450 feet off the Hardware Hank sign in right field.

Left-handed.

“I got work to do,” Bo said to the other players, whose jaws had dropped. He ran out to the outfield to shag some fly balls.

•May 23, 1989: Bo locked into a fastball battle with Nolan Ryan. Up to that point, they had met six times, and Bo had struck out six times. This time, Nolan kept pumping 100-mph fastballs and Bo kept fouling them off, a real clash of the titans. Ryan was not going to try a curveball — this was man-to-man. He threw one last fastball. Bo connected. Bo hit the ball 461 feet, the longest ever homer at Arlington Stadium.

“They better get a new tape measure,” Bo said.

•July 11, 1989: All-Star Game in Anaheim. Bo Jackson led off with a monstrous 448-foot home run to straightaway center field — it cleared two fences out there.

“Unbelievable,” Hall of Famer Tony Gwynn would say.

“I got a piece of it,” Bo would say.

The next inning, he beat out a double-play grounder by running to first in 3.81 seconds — one of the fastest times ever clocked for a right-handed hitter. He stole second base (becoming only the second player to hit a homer and steal a base in an All-Star Game, with Willie Mays). He scored the game-winning run. He was selected MVP.

•July 11, 1990: Bo ran up the outfield wall. Literally. He chased down a fly ball and caught it about four steps in front of the fence. He put his right foot on the wall, then his left, then his right — until he was 7 feet off the ground and sideways. For a guy who didn’t want to be seen as a superhero, he sure kept doing superhero things.

“What do you think of Bo Jackson?” a reporter asked, well, Bo Jackson.

“I’ve known this guy for years,” Bo said of Bo. “And nothing he does fazes me.”

•••

There are so many more. One coach says he saw Bo Jackson swing a bat so hard, he actually broke it even though he missed the ball. Once, he ran over catcher Rick Dempsey. Dempsey broke his thumb but said: “I held him to fewer yards than Brian Bosworth.” That goes back to a Monday night game.

We don’t even have time for all the legendary football stories.

There was the time when Bo faced Roger Clemens, who had struck him out four straight times. “I’m going to get him this time,” Bo said. He smashed a home run over the left-field fence.

And there was “The Throw.” That deserves its own section. On June 5, 1989, the Royals were playing at Seattle. It was the 10th inning, score was tied 3-3, Harold Reynolds was on first base when Scott Bradley rifled a double to left field. Reynolds was running on the pitch, so it was obvious he would score the winning run. He rounded third, headed for home and prepared to have his teammates mob him when he saw his teammate Darnell Coles pumping his arms, the baseball signal for “SLIDE!”

Reynolds thought: “Slide? Are you kidding me?”

So, he was about to launch into what he called “a courtesy slide” when he saw that Kansas City catcher Bob Boone had the ball. Boone tagged him. In the clubhouse afterward, Reynolds would watch the play again and again and again, and never figure out exactly what happened.

What happened was this … Bo Jackson had gotten the ball and made a flatfooted throw of 300 feet in the air. It was a perfect strike. It was so impossible, so ridiculous, so absurd that no umpire was on the spot to make the call. Home-plate umpire Larry Young finally came to his senses and made a fist — Reynolds was out.

“Now I’ve seen it all,” Scott Bradley would say.

“This is not a normal guy,” George Brett would say.

“That was just a supernatural, unbelievable play,” Seattle manager Jim Lefebve would say.

“I just caught the ball, turned and threw,” Bo grumbled. “End of story. … It’s nothing to brag about. Don’t try to make a big issue out of it.”

•••

Bo Jackson’s baseball career really ended on a football field in Los Angeles — he hurt his hip against the Cincinnati Bengals. He did come back and did a few remarkable things after that, but it was different. He wasn’t superhuman anymore.

In four-plus seasons with the Kansas City Royals, Bo Jackson hit only .250. He hit 109 homers and stole 81 bases. He banged 32 homers one season, and stole 27 bases another. He struck out more than 600 times. That was his great flaw. When Bo connected with the ball, he hit .385. He made some great plays in the outfield, but one year he had 12 errors in only 97 games. He played in that one All-Star Game.

The thing is, anyone who ever saw him play will never forget him. Every game was like a Harry Houdini performance — you expected to see something you had never seen before. This story began with that July day in 1990 at Yankee Stadium when Bo Jackson hit three home runs. He got hurt, though, and missed more than a month.

He returned on Aug. 11 to face Seattle but was so unsure about his health that he did not even take batting practice. Then he said, “I can play.” He came up in the second inning. The pitcher was Randy Johnson. First pitch, Bo crushed a long fly ball to center field. The ball splashed in the waterfall to the left of the scoreboard. The Royals estimated the homer flew 450 feet.

“I’m not trying to brag,” Jackson said. “But I actually saw the threads on the ball right before I hit it.”

For once, Bo Jackson had impressed himself. And that might have been his greatest feat of all.

Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 11:29 pm
by War Wagon
And there was “The Throw.” That deserves its own section.
Man, I remember that game and that play so well. Being on the left coast, it was ridiculously late at night for a guy who had to be at work early the next day to be staying up to watch.

That ball was hit into the left field corner and I was like "game over" and getting ready to turn the TV off and get to bed. I don't think the live camera shot at the time even showed Bo getting to the ball or unleashing the throw. All I remember is seeing Reynolds steaming around 3rd towards home and then somehow Boone had the ball in his glove. Unbelievable.

Of all the lore concerning Bo Jackson, that play was the most memorable

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 6:23 pm
by ChargerMike
Racking Bo is ALWAYS a good thing. Freeking Superman for sure.

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 1:36 am
by KC Scott
damn...........

3 fuggin respones for Bo and none from Raiduh Fag?

shit........

OK for all of you younger than 30 or with the collective memories of a goldfish:

Bo was the shit. Biggest Freak of any generation... evah

EOS

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 1:43 am
by War Wagon
KC Scott wrote:damn...........
3 fuggin respones for Bo and none from Raiduh Fag?
R-Jack is a closet duh fan, and his youtube link was funny as hell.

Everyone knows what a freak of nature Bo was.

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 2:39 am
by poptart
Not much for me to add, Scott.

Bo was a phenomenal athlete ... and he was humble.
Wish he would have played for the Raiders full time.
May have been able to go down as one of the greatest RBs ever.

As it is, he's largely a folk legend.
One that old men tell their kid about ...... while the kid rolls his eyes and gives dad the 'jerk off' hand motion behind his back.

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 2:34 pm
by RevLimiter
Bo Jackson was perhaps the GREATEST athlete I've ever had the priviledge of watching. PERIOD.

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 5:46 pm
by Goober McTuber
RevLimiter wrote:Bo Jackson was perhaps the GREATEST athlete I've ever had the priviledge of watching. PERIOD.
You should have seen Jim Thorpe in his prime.

Sincerely,

Luther



And big ups to whoever took out the trash ('sup Kaley?)

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 3:30 am
by War Wagon
poptart wrote: As it is, he's largely a folk legend.

One that old men tell their kid about ...... while the kid rolls his eyes and gives dad the 'jerk off' hand motion behind his back.
No shit.

Tried to tell my daughter about Bo once, and what a wasted effort that was. If it didn't happen when she saw it, it didn't happen. I might as well be talking about Greek mythology.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 1:17 pm
by SunCoastSooner
War Wagon wrote:
poptart wrote: As it is, he's largely a folk legend.

One that old men tell their kid about ...... while the kid rolls his eyes and gives dad the 'jerk off' hand motion behind his back.
No shit.

Tried to tell my daughter about Bo once, and what a wasted effort that was. If it didn't happen when she saw it, it didn't happen. I might as well be talking about Greek mythology.
Bo knows Zeus!

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 2:08 pm
by DallasFanatic
War Wagon wrote:
poptart wrote: As it is, he's largely a folk legend.

One that old men tell their kid about ...... while the kid rolls his eyes and gives dad the 'jerk off' hand motion behind his back.
No shit.

Tried to tell my daughter about Bo once, and what a wasted effort that was. If it didn't happen when she saw it, it didn't happen. I might as well be talking about Greek mythology.
Thats because the only athletes she wants to hear about are the bull dykes at catcher and first base on her softball team.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 5:00 pm
by Dinsdale
Watching the Mariners in Aneheim last night, the announcers referred to a section of the outfoeld wall/bleachers as "The Bo Jackson area."

Awesome, in a road park all these years later. Dude was really that good.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 5:01 pm
by Dinsdale
poptart wrote:May have been able to go down as one of the greatest RBs ever.

Bo WAS the greatest RB ever.

He just doesn't have the tenure and the stats to back it up.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 5:40 pm
by War Wagon
DallasFanatic wrote: Thats because the only athletes she wants to hear about are the bull dykes at catcher and first base on her softball team.
Not true. She's an even bigger Chiefs, Royals, and Mizzou fan than I am, if that's even possible. Raised her right, I did.

But she's not interested in what happened before she was even born. I saved every newspaper and magazine article that I could get my hands on when the Royals won the 85 series. I tried to show her one time and she said "maybe later". Yeah, right. Later as in after I'm dead and you're going thru my junk you'll look at 'em for about 5 seconds before tossing it all in the trash.

She'd been away at college and didn't even know we got Donnie Edwards back until last night. She came running out of her room when she found that out watching Metro Sports and was all like... "umm Dad, why didn't you tell me?" Like it's my freaking job to keep her updated on Chiefs players comings and goings.

Needless to say, she was as stoked about getting Donnie back as I was 3 months ago when it happened.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 5:49 pm
by Goober McTuber
War Wagon wrote:Later as in after I'm dead and you're going thru my junk
I thought she was a carpet-muncher? That’s just whack.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 6:11 pm
by Bucmonkey
Dinsdale wrote:
poptart wrote:May have been able to go down as one of the greatest RBs ever.

Bo WAS the greatest RB ever.

He just doesn't have the tenure and the stats to back it up.
Like it or not durability is also part of the big picture. Bo was an awesome talent but hardly the greatest ever......

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 6:46 pm
by Dinsdale
Bucmonkey wrote: Like it or not durability is also part of the big picture.

Oh, I agree with your point. But, what I meant but didn't make clear, was that when he did step on the field, he was the best that ever played the position(this coming from a Raiderhater, no less).


Obviously, Sweetness and others accomplished more in their careers, and should be rightfully celebrated for their achievements, but as far as once that opening snap came, and the ball was handed off, Bo was the best to ever carry the rock.


Missing the first 5 games every season, or however many it was, obviously wasn't going to win him a rushing title or anything.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 6:53 pm
by Goober McTuber
Dinsdale wrote:Obviously, Sweetness and others accomplished more in their careers, and should be rightfully celebrated for their achievements, but as far as once that opening snap came, and the ball was handed off, Bo was the best to ever carry the rock. Aside from Jim Brown of course.
FTFY.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:17 pm
by Dinsdale
I've never seen anyone who could accelerate to full speed in their first step like Bo did, that's for sure. Unfortunately, the only time I've seen Wifebeater Brown is in highlight clips...and he's a beast.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:34 pm
by BSmack
Dinsdale wrote:Oh, I agree with your point. But, what I meant but didn't make clear, was that when he did step on the field, he was the best that ever played the position(this coming from a Raiderhater, no less).
Not even close. The "best who ever played" did a hell of a lot better than having a 100 yard game every 5 outings.

Never mind that Bo had a mere 18 TDs rushing and receiving in 38 games. To put that in perspective, there are 14 players who have scored more TDs in a single season than Bo Jackson did in his entire career. Don't you think a guy who was 6'1" and 225 with sub 4.4 speed should have had a better nose for the goal line?

And let's not forget that Bo definitely didn't know much about catching balls. His whopping 1 catch per game average should tell you all you need to know about how limited a football player he was. As if that wasn't enough, when Marcus Allen went down in 89, guys like Steve Smith and Vance Mueller stepped into the role of pass catching RB, not Bo.

Bo could possibly have been the greatest ever had he put his time into learning the game of football on the pro level. But he didn't and therefore became a one dimensional player capable of producing absurdly great highlight material every 5 games or so and good to sub par performances the rest of the time.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:41 pm
by Dinsdale
BSmack wrote:Never mind that Bo had a mere 18 TDs rushing and receiving in 38 games...Marcus Allen

Bo played alongside a HoF RB, which would limit individual statistics.

Sin,
Marcus Allen

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:44 pm
by BSmack
Dinsdale wrote:
BSmack wrote:Never mind that Bo had a mere 18 TDs rushing and receiving in 38 games...Marcus Allen

Bo played alongside a HoF RB, which would limit individual statistics.

Sin,
Marcus Allen
So when said HoF RB went down for 10 games, one should have expected Bo to blossom into a complete all purpose back. You know, if he really was the "greatest ever".

But that isn't what happened.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:58 pm
by ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2
mvscal wrote:True, but Bo is about the only back I can think of who can seriously be mentioned in the same breath with Brown.
Ban yourself from this forum.

Brown had an amazing career. Bo had 3 or 4 of the most amazing running plays ever. Take those away and what are you left with? He averaged under 75 yards/game for Chrissakes...

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:04 pm
by Dinsdale
Yeah, that 6.8 YPC his rookie year, coupled with his career 5.4 YPC average means he sucked.

:roll'em:

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:17 pm
by ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2
I am sure he has a bust in Canton right next to another back whose amazing career was cut short. Right next to Gale Sayers, right Dins?

No one is saying he sucked. He just doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Jim Brown. If you're not even the best running back on your team, how can you be one of the best ever?

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 9:08 pm
by Goober McTuber
Dinsdale wrote:Yeah, that 6.8 YPC his rookie year, coupled with his career 5.4 YPC average means he sucked.

:roll'em:
Beattie Feathers averaged 9.9 YPC his rookie year, and 5.6 YPC for his career. I think Luther has his rookie card, BTW.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 9:14 pm
by Dinsdale
Goober McTuber wrote:I think Luther has his rookie card, BTW.

He won it in a game of marbles against Greg Oden.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 9:15 pm
by Goober McTuber
Dinsdale wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:I think Luther has his rookie card, BTW.

He won it in a game of marbles against Greg Oden.
He must have cheated if he beat Greg Oden.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 9:29 pm
by Dinsdale
Dude...Moses parted the Red Sea, Greg Oden let Luth win at marbles...same difference.