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He is definitely dropping the hammer on all the athletes getting in trouble. I am all about cleaning up the THE most popular sport in the states, but let me play devil's advocate here for a second. What if bigger names like Vick get the cane yank off stage? Could Goodell's aggressive disiplinary style backfire when fans don't want to pay the big bucks to go see Hoey Harrington or DJ Shockley? I really do hope Goodell's tactics payoff in the long run and the sport has a squeeky clean image, but in the meantime, I hope the tension between the commissioner's office, the owners, and the NFLPA does not bubble over into possible lockouts or strikes.

Just sayin'

RumpleForeskin wrote:What if bigger names like Vick get the cane yank off stage?

I'm thinking the players association would have a tough time selling the American people on the idea that keeping a dude that tortures dogs makes the game better.....fuck those over paid POS's.....here's an idea for the Mike Vick's and Chris Henry's of the NFL..

act like a real human being instead of a piece of excrement and you won't have to worry about it....

I totally support Goodell's approach and I'm guessing the vast majority of true fans of the NFL will as well

RumpleForeskin wrote:He is definitely dropping the hammer on all the athletes getting in trouble.

Sorry, I only speak English. Could you define the word "all" in the context you're using it?

What if bigger names like Vick get the cane yank off stage? Could Goodell's aggressive disiplinary style backfire when fans don't want to pay the big bucks to go see Hoey Harrington or DJ Shockley?

You mean people are shelling out the big bucks just to see Vick complete 50% of his attempts, and miss wide-open downfield recievers?

Sounds like Atlanta fans are dumb enough they would pay big bucks to see Testaverdi try and make a comeback.

I hope the tension between the commissioner's office, the owners, and the NFLPA does not bubble over into possible lockouts or strikes.

Silly me -- when the Player's Union said they had about 98-99% support for the new policy, I took that to mean the had wide support.

You would think CrumpledShitstain, of all people, would have a good grasp of the term "wide".

Dinsdale wrote:You mean people are shelling out the big bucks just to see Vick complete 50% of his attempts, and miss wide-open downfield recievers?

Are you telling me that the Georgia Dome would have sold out all of those games for the past 3 years if Matt Schaub was behind center?

Silly me -- when the Player's Union said they had about 98-99% support for the new policy, I took that to mean the had wide support.

I realize that, but all it takes is one suspension the union does not agree on and the support will go away rather quickly.

RumpleForeskin wrote:He is definitely dropping the hammer on all the athletes getting in trouble.

Not all of them, just the most obvious examples. Which is why the NFLPA will not give Goodell any trouble on this issue. Well that and the ownership papers Goodell has on Gene Upshaw clearly state that he will not cause any trouble.

I am all about cleaning up the THE most popular sport in the states, but let me play devil's advocate here for a second.

What's to play "devil's advocate" about? Either you like Goodell imposing minimum standards of off field conduct or you don't.

What if bigger names like Vick get the cane yank off stage?

What's the big deal about Vick? I guarantee you that if Joey Harrington is under center that the Falcons will have a higher ranked passing attack this year than they did last year. Simply put, Vick ain't that good.

Could Goodell's aggressive disiplinary style backfire when fans don't want to pay the big bucks to go see Hoey Harrington or DJ Shockley? I really do hope Goodell's tactics payoff in the long run and the sport has a squeeky clean image, but in the meantime, I hope the tension between the commissioner's office, the owners, and the NFLPA does not bubble over into possible lockouts or strikes.

There won't be any lockouts or strikes. Not when the head of the NFLPA has office space in the pockets of Roger Goodell's suits.

I just thought of a theory. Is Bud Selig paying Roger Goodell to drive inner city black children to play baseball by instituting suspensions of this magnitude in the NFL?

RumpleForeskin wrote:Are you telling me that the Georgia Dome would have sold out all of those games for the past 3 years if Matt Schaub was behind center?

That would depend entirely on the W/L percentage during those years. Especially when dealing with the severely bandwagoning fanbase known as the ATL. If the Falcons were winning their division every season, and defending their homefield every week, attendance would be the same with Michael Vick, Marcus Vick, or Condi Rice under center.


With Schaub at the helm, I'm guessing that the Falcons would have won more games, so attendance would have been the same. A hot ticket to a winning team is a hot ticket to a winning team...this isn't the NBA, where you cherry-pick what games you see based upon the marquee name on the opposing team -- it's the NFL, where you only have 8 home games to choose from.


Oh, and BTW-

THE most popular sport in the states

You do realize the NY Yankees sell almost as many tickets as the top 4 NFL teams combined, right?(As do a few other MLB teams.)

RumpleForeskin wrote:Bud Selig paying

I laughed.

RumpleForeskin wrote: Are you telling me that the Georgia Dome would have sold out all of those games for the past 3 years if Matt Schaub was behind center?

I think Atlanta got rid of the wrong QB, and that is going to be played out in the next few months. Schaub looks like he might be the real deal. Vick is an over-hyped POS who, as a QB, just doesn't pass muster.


Now, on to Goodell. Rack that fucking dude. Any fan who is pissed because their rapist/murderer/thug has been tossed to the curb and is going to boycott games is a grade A tard. The players I've heard interviewed have no problem with it. Hell the Texans I've heard interviewed have stated that Goodell's policy is more lenient than the Texans personal conduct clause in their contract. The NFLPA doesn't seem to have any problems with the Texans contracts, so why would they with Goodell?


The real kicker is going to be when you get into a he said/she said incident of sexual misconduct. Who's word do you take? A gold digging whore, or the player? That's where I see the NFLPA stepping in. So far, every suspension has stemmed from legal action.

Dinsdale wrote:

THE most popular sport in the states

You do realize the NY Yankees sell almost as many tickets as the top 4 NFL teams combined, right?(As do a few other MLB teams.)

That would have nothing to do with the Yankees having 10 times as many home games as any NFL team, right? I would think that TV ratings would point to the NFL being more popular.

Goober McTuber wrote:[That would have nothing to do with the Yankees having 10 times as many home games as any NFL team, right? I would think that TV ratings would point to the NFL being more popular.

Yeah. That was obvious. I thought Dins was joking.

Yeah, that much is obvious...all comes down to what definition of "popular" one is using, eh?

Dinsdale wrote:Yeah, that much is obvious...all comes down to what definition of "popular" one is using, eh?

I don't know too many people who have cookouts for a baseball game.

We had 20+ people at my casa for the Texas/Ohio St. game, the Texans/Cowboys game, and the New England/Indy game.

The NFL's massive popularity is beyond that of any handfull of players, Vick could go and it wouldn't make an iota of difference.

I think Goodell is doing the right thing. The game could use less gang bangers.

Sports fans are sports fan, period. You don't have to choose one sport over the other. I like baseball about as much as I like football. The whole argument over which sport is more popular is moot, and not really the point of the thread.

Is Goodall doing the right thing? Hell yes.

That is all.