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...... make the Hall of Fame?

- Shaun Alexander
- Marvin Harrison
- Fred Taylor
- Corey Dillon
- Terrell Owens
- Ladanian Tomlinson
- Isaac Bruce
- Randy Moss
- Curtis Martin
- Edgerrin James

- Shaun Alexander MAYBE
- Marvin Harrison YES
- Fred Taylor NO
- Corey Dillon NO
- Terrell Owens NO
- Ladanian Tomlinson YES
- Isaac Bruce YES
- Randy Moss NO
- Curtis Martin YES
- Edgerrin James YES

-Shaun Alexander .....7
- Marvin Harrison ......6
- Fred Taylor ............4
- Corey Dillon ...........4
- Terrell Owens .........2
- Ladanian Tomlinson.10
- Isaac Bruce ............6
- Randy Moss ............6
- Curtis Martin ...........7
- Edgerrin James .......7


Based on a scale of 1-10...10 being a first ballot yes.

-Shaun Alexander - no (has a shot if he gets back to form)
- Marvin Harrison - yes
- Fred Taylor - no
- Corey Dillon - no
- Terrell Owens - yes (though he he won't be first ballet, dudes numbers are too good to keep him out)
- Ladanian Tomlinson - yes
- Isaac Bruce - maybe
- Randy Moss - no
- Curtis Martin - yes
- Edgerrin James - no (unless Arizona gets good his numbers are going to suffer)

- Shaun Alexander NO
- Marvin Harrison YES
- Fred Taylor NO
- Corey Dillon NO
- Terrell Owens NO
- Ladanian Tomlinson YES
- Isaac Bruce YES
- Randy Moss NO
- Curtis Martin YES
- Edgerrin James YES

- Shaun Alexander: fuck no
- Marvin Harrison: yes
- Fred Taylor: hell no
- Corey Dillon: no
- Terrell Owens: maybe *
- Ladanian Tomlinson: maybe *
- Isaac Bruce: yes
- Randy Moss: no
- Curtis Martin: yes
- Edgerrin James: no





* If thier careers ended today, then fuck no.

RevLimiter wrote: - Ladanian Tomlinson YES

Chargermike wrote: Ladanian Tomlinson.10

trev wrote:Ladanian Tomlinson YES

Nacho wrote:Ladanian Tomlinson - yes

I laughed. Out of 'Tarts entire list, this guy has the worst fucking stats needed to make the hall at this point. He isnt fucking close to being top 20 all-time for rushing yards, carries, or yards from scrimmage.


Excellent job, tards.







Im also guessing that the continued inability to win a playoff game until the end of his career will hurt his chances of getting a sniff-of course, that career will be cut short by a member of the silver and black this season when he gets both ACL's blown out. :P

I don't see any of your guys on the list RJ. Except for Moss. *snicker snicker*

trev wrote:I don't see any of your guys on the list RJ. Except for Moss. *snicker snicker*

and if CryDanian makes it, we'll only have your laughable franchise doubled in hall of fame busts. *snicker snicker*

Raydah James wrote: I laughed. Out of 'Tarts entire list, this guy has the worst fucking stats needed to make the hall at this point. He isnt fucking close to being top 20 all-time for rushing yards, carries, or yards from scrimmage.

Excellent job, tards.

Im also guessing that the continued inability to win a playoff game until the end of his career will hurt his chances of getting a sniff-of course, that career will be cut short by a member of the silver and black this season when he gets both ACL's blown out. :P

All the Running backs listed and where they stack up all time:
And LaDainian Tomlinson is alot closer to the top 20 than you think all time. Compared to the others I dont see him not having a chance. a little more time will be needed to sure up his chances yes.

dillion wrote:Among the league's all-time top 50
Rushes: 15
Rushing yards: 14
Rushing TDs: 16
Yards from scrimmage: 29
Rush/Receive TDs: 28

Tomlinson wrote:Among the league's all-time top 50
Rushes: 26
Rushing yards: 24
Rushing TDs: 6t
Yards from scrimmage: 38
Rush/Receive TDs: 11t

Martin wrote:Among the league's all-time top 50
Rushes: 3
Rushing yards: 4
Rushing TDs: 12t
Yards from scrimmage: 7
Rush/Receive TDs: 19t

Taylor wrote:Among the league's all-time top 50
Rushes: 25
Rushing yards: 21
Rushing TDs: 37t
Yards from scrimmage: 43

James wrote:Among the league's all-time top 50
Rushes: 17
Rushing yards: 19
Rushing TDs: 25
Yards from scrimmage: 24
Rush/Receive TDs: 43t

Alexander wrote:Among the league's all-time top 50
Rushes: 29
Rushing yards: 25
Rushing TDs: 9
Rush/Receive TDs: 14

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The rest of the players:

Marvin Harrison is the fucking MAN! Damn!

Harrison wrote:Among the league's all-time top 50
Receptions: 4
Receiving yards: 6
Receiving TDs: 3
Yards from scrimmage: 20
Rush/Receive TDs: 8

Owens wrote:Among the league's all-time top 50
Receptions: 17
Receiving yards: 16
Receiving TDs: 4
Yards from scrimmage: 41
Rush/Receive TDs: 9t

Bruce wrote:Among the league's all-time top 50
Receptions: 7
Receiving yards: 7
Receiving TDs: 18
Yards from scrimmage: 22
Rush/Receive TDs: 45

Moss wrote:Among the league's all-time top 50
Receptions: 29
Receiving yards: 21
Receiving TDs: 5
Rush/Receive TDs: 16t

peter dragon wrote: And LaDainian Tomlinson is alot closer to the top 20 than you think all time.

"Than I Think?"


I stated facts about LaDouchenian, dumbfuck-nothing more, nothing less.


I do, however, "think" you're a fucking window licking ballsmoker of a tard whose team will never be known for anything other than being body cavity search loving handcuffed cunts and Joe Montana's personal bitch.


Maybe next year your shit team can do the hitting on the field instead of in a county inmate's deucechute.

Raydah James wrote:I do, however, "think" you're a fucking window licking ballsmoker of a tard whose team will never be known for anything other than being body cavity search loving handcuffed cunts and Joe Montana's personal bitch.

hahaha

THIS is why I love R. James.
Always comes out in full smack mode.
We need more of it.


Jack, Wiz was one of my all-time fav. Raiduh o-linemen, but he's not gettin' in the HoF.
Neither is L. Kennedy, and I liked him too.

Rice is, of course, a mortal lock.
Brown will get in too, but it's not a 100% guarantee.


My takes on the players I listed .............

Marvin Harrison is the only one that currently has a resume which all-but-guarantees him a spot in Canton.

Curtis Martin is the next closest thing to currently being a lock. As the 4th all-time rusher, he's very likely to get in, even though I don't know that he was really an ELITE rb of his era. Consistency and durability counts for a lot though. When all is said and done, he'll make it.

Corey Dillon and Fred Taylor are in a similar boat. They're gettin' long in the tooth, and they'll have to put together a few more pretty big seasons to get serious consideration. Taylor has a pretty damn impressive 4.6 yds per carry mark for his career. Bottom line is I see them both NOT making it.

Ladanian Tomlinson wouldn't get in if he retired today, but I believe he will end up making it. He's still in good heath, and there's no reason (other than Norv ... haha) to think he won't string together another 2-3 big seasons.

Shaun Alexander was slowed last year, but if we had put this same question up prior to last season, I bet most people would have said they think he'll end up making it. Damn, the guy has 107 TDs in 7 seasons. WOW. I'm on the fence with him. I'll give a hesitant thumbs down on him, wanting to see how he bounces back this year.

Edge James got some love from y'all, and it surprised me a little. I think he was the beneficiary of a pretty good situation in Indy, and to his credit, he took advantage of it -- put up some good numbers. He only ran for 3.4 yds per carry last yr as a Tardinal, and if he keeps banging away at that clip he's gonna get beat down and not have a prayer of making Canton. I'm saying he WON'T make it.

Isaac Bruce is a tough call. He's not scored that many touchdowns, relatively, but he's got a pretty high (15.1) yds per catch mark, and he's 7th all-time in receptions. He was a key player on a Super Bowl winning team. I'll give him a hesitant thumbs up to make it.

Randy Moss and Terrell Owens are similar in some ways. Both have scored a SHITLOAD of TDs, both are cunts, and both are slowing down, although Owens still performed well enough last year. Moss was on the fast-track to Canton a few yrs ago, but has fallen off very badly the last 3 years -- injury and attitude -- and it's questionable whether he has the skills or mentality to do what's needed to prolong a career. I'd rate Owen's chances of making the Hall as slightly better, and bottom line is I give him a thumbs up to make it, while I say Moss will not.

R-Jack wrote:

Raydah James wrote:

trev wrote:I don't see any of your guys on the list RJ. Except for Moss. *snicker snicker*

and if CryDanian makes it, we'll only have your laughable franchise doubled in hall of fame busts. *snicker snicker*

I hate to correct you James but you are wrong.

Tim Brown, Jerry Rice, Steve Wizniewski and (possibly) Lincon Kennedy will be in before Too Tall Tomlinson gets there.

This thread is about active players, tiger. Read more, post less.

Jack, Wiz has some impressive credentials, yes, but so do a number of other linemen of his era.
Some of the others exceed him, IMO, and only so many O-linemen will be getting in.

Gary Zimmerman made the all-decade teams in both the 80s and 90s.
He's not in ... yet.

Randall McDaniel -- made 12 pro bowls -- all-decade 90s
Russ Grimm -- 3 super bowl winning teams - all-decade 80s
Richmond Webb -- 7 pro bowls - all-decade 80s
Willie Roaf -- 11 pro bowls -- all-decade 90s -- will get in

If Wiz gets the nod, I'd love it, but I'm not holding my breath.

Pops, you left off the BEST offensive lineman of the last 15 years:



12 straight Pro Bowls- 1st ballot HOFer, PERIOD.

You're right, Paul, but I was just mentioning some 80s and 90s guys that would probably get in before Wiz.
I didn't note the current guys that will make a strong case -- Shields obviously one of 'em.
He's pretty much a lock.
J. Ogden, L. Allen, A. Faneca, .....

If Wiz isn't enshrined by the time these guys start coming up, it further diminishes his chances.

Wiz WAS a dominant player at his position, but will his reputation (deserved or NOT) as a "dirty player" keep him out?

Shaun Alexander- Probably
Marvin Harrison- Definitely
Fred Taylor- No
Corey Dillon- No
Terrell Owens- Would make it now if he hadn't been such a crybaby prick. Since he is, he needs at least 2-3 more dominant seasons
Ladanian Tomlinson- Definitely
Isaac Bruce- Not likely
Randy Moss- Needs to regain his old form for a couple more seasons.
Curtis Martin- Definitely
Edgerrin James- Not likely, unless he shows that he was not just a product of Indy's system by having some significant success in AZ.

Could you fucking tards trouble yourselves to answer the question consistently?

Answer one of two ways, quit mixing the two.

Either

A) Their current numbers qualify them for the hall of fame if they never take another snap

OR

B) Your expectation of their talent level and expected longevity of their career will get them Hall of fame numbers.



You can't in the same breath say Tomlinson is a lock but T.O. needs 2-3 more seasons to qualify? Are you fucking high, Stupid, or both?


Out of the entire list, only Harrison and Martin have HOF resumes right now. Everyone else is a bubble guy at best.

But in the spirit of the thread...


- Shaun Alexander - Doesn't get the numbers. No.
- Marvin Harrison - IN
- Fred Taylor - No
- Corey Dillon - Veterans Committee entrant
- Terrell Owens - Bubble guy . Will have the Hall numbers, but Shitbag status keeps him out... For a few years. In after several close calls
- Ladanian Tomlinson - His numbers will get him there, barring injury. I'd say IN
- Isaac Bruce - IN
- Randy Moss - NO. He falls apart too soon. His numbers plus A-hole rating keep him out.
- Curtis Martin - 1st ballot
- Edgerrin James - No. Never gets the numbers in Az. No Ring. No HOF.

Raydah James wrote:Maybe next year your shit team can do the hitting on the field instead of in a county inmate's deucechute.

RACK!

will they? being they key question.

poptart wrote:...... make the Hall of Fame?

- Shaun Alexander- No
- Marvin Harrison- Yes
- Fred Taylor- No
- Corey Dillon- No
- Terrell Owens- No
- Ladanian Tomlinson- Yes
- Isaac Bruce- No (on the bubble. will be debated)
- Randy Moss- No
- Curtis Martin- Yes
- Edgerrin James- No

Headhunter wrote:You can't in the same breath say Tomlinson is a lock but T.O. needs 2-3 more seasons to qualify?

Yes I can. If Tomlinson were to snap his leg tomorrow, he'd be in the HoF. And probably on the first ballot. He's a great "character guy" (at least in the eyes of the voters) and he just came off a season that is in the top 2 or 3 all time for running backs. Owens, like you said, is a shitbag. So he'll have to pile up a whole lot more in the stats department just to overcome the total hatred that the voters have for him.

Terrell Davis is going to be ecstatic that you don't need HOF numbers. Just a good year and that all important "Character Guy" stat.

jiminphilly wrote:will they? being they key question.

Yes, I was looking for predictions here, as it has been noted that only Harrison, IMO, is a 100% lock to make it on current resume.

Gale Sayers got in on a very short but brilliant resume -- and Earl Campbell really only had 5 stellar seasons, so I think it's possible that Tomlinson could make it on his current resume.

I wouldn't bet a lot on it though.

RevLimiter wrote:Pops, you left off the BEST offensive lineman of the last 15 years:



12 straight Pro Bowls- 1st ballot HOFer, PERIOD.

Larry Allen is in that debate.....

BSmack wrote:He's a great "character guy" (at least in the eyes of the voters).

Character guy? He exposed himself as a rotten, yeast infected man-vulva after being punked by the Patriots.

Character? Fuck "The Round Mound of Cunt Sounds" Tomlinson...

Headhunter wrote:Terrell Davis is going to be ecstatic that you don't need HOF numbers. Just a good year and that all important "Character Guy" stat.

Terrell Davis and LaDainian Tomlinson are not comparable on any level what so fucking ever. Davis had 1 average season, and 3 great years. Tomlinson has put up great numbers for 5 straight years, already has over 100 TDs for his career and demolished the single season TD mark last year. I was just saying (as you did yourself) that TO's numbers would ordinarily be Hall worthy, but since he's such a fucking prick, he'll have to do that much more work to get writers to vote for him.

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:

BSmack wrote:He's a great "character guy" (at least in the eyes of the voters).

Character guy? He exposed himself as a rotten, yeast infected man-vulva after being punked by the Patriots.

Character? Fuck "The Round Mound of Cunt Sounds" Tomlinson...

Do you think that matters to guys like Peter King and Len Passthelasagna?

BSmack wrote:demolished the single season TD mark last year

Yeah, quite the feat considering that fucking record had been broken twice in the previous 3 years that LaCuntnian did it.




You're a goddamn idiot of the absolute highest caliber.

I still don't think Tomlinson's numbers put him in the Hall if he never takes another snap. I don't believe he has, as of yet, put together a Hall of Fame resume. He's getting close. But if his leg snaps tomorrow, he's no Hall of Fame back in my opinion.

If you ask me, you'll need to crack the top 10 in rushing yards before I'd consider a back to have HOF number. As it stands, he's around 2-3 seasons away from that.

Apparently 24th is good enough for you.


Warrick Dunn will be pleased. So will Eddie George, and Tiki Barber.

BSmack wrote:Terrell Davis and LaDainian Tomlinson are not comparable on any level what so fucking ever.

You're right.

One of them dominated, and when the going got really tough in the postseason, nutted it up and put his team on his back, leading them to two SB championships.

The other has let his team down in the postseason, proved his decision-making isn't very good, and showed the world he has no class whatsoever while airing out his itchy vagina after taking an asskicking...not to mention not having the class to speak out against people calling him by a nickname that's already taken by one of the all-time greats of the game.

You're right -- they're not comparable on any level.

Headhunter wrote:I still don't think Tomlinson's numbers put him in the Hall if he never takes another snap. I don't believe he has, as of yet, put together a Hall of Fame resume. He's getting close. But if his leg snaps tomorrow, he's no Hall of Fame back in my opinion.

If you ask me, you'll need to crack the top 10 in rushing yards before I'd consider a back to have HOF number. As it stands, he's around 2-3 seasons away from that.

Apparently 24th is good enough for you.

Warrick Dunn will be pleased. So will Eddie George, and Tiki Barber.

If they compiled their numbers in 6 seasons while scoring over 100 TDs, then you would have a point. Tomlinson has AVERAGED 1500 yards a season since he entered the league. That is HoF worthy.

BSmack wrote:Tomlinson has AVERAGED 1500 yards a season since he entered the league.

Yet sports a yards-per-carry average that's lower than Fred Taylor.


And not even in the same area code as Frank Gore's. So, a couple more years at his current pace, and Gore becomes a HoF lock?

So longevity doesn't matter? Just pure stats?

Then you should love Terrell Davis' 4.6 yards per carry to Tomlinson's 4.5.

Or should we not count attempts? Just totals?

I'm really confused at this point.


Fred Taylor has a 4.6 Y/A for more yards and a better y/a average, yet you've penciled him in as a no? Are his stats not as good at LaDanian "Night Train" Tomlinson?


So stats only matter if you bunch them into a short period of time?

Good lord!

mvscal wrote:By one tenth of a yard? Nice try, douche.

That's right -- I forgot that mv proved beyond all doubt that he's not familiar with the "greater than/less than" concept.

Fred Taylor seems to be an overwhelming "no." Yet he has better individual stats than Jim Brown Tomlinson.

I guess I should have expected as much -- Chargerfan is fucking stupid. They think every thread is titled "Show us your lightening bolts!"

Hey, Chargertard -- drop this schtick, and just assume every thread title is to be interpreted as "show us your trophy case!"

For all of you Moss haytas...

IF dude plays until he's just 35 and averages a mere 60 catches, 700 yds, and 5 TDs he'll be in the Top 5 in all of those categories.

mvscal wrote:Nobody else on that list rates.

I value your totally unbiased and straight forward opinion.

poptart wrote:...... make the Hall of Fame?

- Shaun Alexander
- Marvin Harrison
- Fred Taylor
- Corey Dillon
- Terrell Owens
- Ladanian Tomlinson
- Isaac Bruce
- Randy Moss
- Curtis Martin
- Edgerrin James

None of them will make it in- or should!

Dinsdale wrote:

BSmack wrote:Tomlinson has AVERAGED 1500 yards a season since he entered the league.

Yet sports a yards-per-carry average that's lower than Fred Taylor.

And not even in the same area code as Frank Gore's. So, a couple more years at his current pace, and Gore becomes a HoF lock?

He might want to start scoring more than 12 TDs a year. But feel free to flail away at one part of Tomlinson's HoF resume in your enduring attempt to make people think you know anything about football. It sure is entertaining.

BSmack wrote:But feel free to flail away at one part of Tomlinson's HoF resume in your enduring attempt to make people think you know anything about football. It sure is entertaining.

Your football "takes" are just as rancid as the rhino shit you spew in other forums. Seriously... what you lack in quality compared to the many KC Tards who populate our community, you more than make up for with your career numbers. You don't really stand out as far as Tards go... but you're a compiler. You're the Don Sutton of Message Board Tards.

Headhunter wrote:
So stats only matter if you bunch them into a short period of time?

In Fred's case, yes.

He's had a nice career and might have had a shot at Canton if he could have stayed healthy. It has taken him 9 years to put up over 9000 yards.. LT's done it in 6.

Fragile Fred has only gone over the 300 attempt mark 1x in his career.. LT has done it every year he's been in the league.

LT's stats as a receiver put Fred's to shame.

I didn't even mention the TOTAL TD difference because it makes Fred look even worse.

There is simply no comparison of the 2 in terms of who is HOF material and who is not.