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AWAY Game Records (2000-06)

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:38 pm
by L45B
As requested, here are a few lists that show what the major conferences (as well as Notre Dame, Boise St. & Utah) have done on the road this decade. Neutral site games & conference championship games are included on here as well (bowl games are not).

Also, the last list shows each team's variance between home winning% and away winning%. So basically the team at the top of list performs at home considerably better than on the road (or vice versa). There are a few teams with a negative variance (meaning they are a tad better on the road than at home).
Team | OVERALL Away Record [vs. Final AP Top 10] | OVERALL Away Winning %
1. Oklahoma | 33-9 [5-2] | 78.6%
2. Texas | 32-9 [2-6] | 78.0%
3. Miami (FL) | 28-8 [1-2] | 77.8%
4. Boise St. (ID) | 31-10 [0-1] | 75.6%
5. Southern California | 30-10 [2-4] | 75.0%
6. Ohio St. | 24-9 [0-3] | 72.7%
7. Tennessee | 26-10 [4-5] | 72.2%
8. Louisville (KY) | 28-11 [0-2] | 71.8%
9. Virginia Tech | 25-10 [1-3] | 71.4%
10. Georgia | 27-12 [3-6] | 69.2%
11. Florida | 25-13 [5-6] | 65.8%
12. Notre Dame (IN) | 24-13 [0-5] | 64.9%
13. Louisiana St. | 22-12 [3-7] | 64.7%
14. Florida St. | 25-14 [1-3] | 64.1%
15. Auburn (AL) | 21-12 [1-7] | 63.6%
16. Washington St. | 26-15 [0-5] | 63.4%
17. West Virginia | 22-13 [0-5] | 62.9%
18. Michigan | 21-13 [0-3] | 61.8%
19. Oregon | 22-14 [1-5] | 61.1%
19. Wisconsin | 22-14 [0-6] | 61.1%
21. Arkansas | 28-20 [1-10] | 58.3%
22. Georgia Tech | 22-17 [0-3] | 56.4%
23. Utah | 21-17 [0-2] | 55.3%
24. Boston College (MA) | 19-18 [0-3] | 51.4%
25. Pittsburgh (PA) | 18-18 [0-4] | 50.0%
25. Clemson (SC) | 17-17 [0-2] | 50.0%
27. Maryland | 18-19 [0-2] | 48.6%
28. Wake Forest (NC) | 18-20 [0-0] | 47.4%
29. Purdue (IN) | 17-19 [0-5] | 47.2%
30. Kansas St. | 16-18 [1-3] | 47.1%
30. Nebraska | 16-18 [0-6] | 47.1%
32. California | 18-21 [0-6] | 46.2%
33. UCLA | 17-20 [0-8] | 45.9%
34. North Carolina St. | 16-19 [1-1] | 45.7%
34. Texas A&M | 16-19 [0-6] | 45.7%
36. South Carolina | 15-18 [0-5] | 45.5%
37. Texas Tech | 17-21 [0-8] | 44.7%
37. Oregon St. | 17-21 [0-7] | 44.7%
37. Alabama | 17-21 [0-4] | 44.7%
40. Iowa | 16-20 [1-5] | 44.4%
41. Colorado | 18-25 [1-7] | 41.9%
42. South Florida | 15-21 [1-4] | 41.7%
43. Northwestern (IL) | 16-24 [0-5] | 40.0%
44. Arizona St. | 14-22 [0-8] | 38.9%
44. Minnesota | 14-22 [0-5] | 38.9%
46. Oklahoma St. | 13-23 [1-4] | 36.1%
47. Arizona | 12-22 [0-6] | 35.3%
48. Missouri | 13-24 [0-4] | 35.1%
49. Michigan St. | 12-23 [1-6] | 34.3%
49. Washington | 12-23 [1-7] | 34.3%
51. Stanford (CA) | 13-25 [1-4] | 34.2%
51. North Carolina | 13-25 [0-4] | 34.2%
51. Connecticut | 13-25 [0-3] | 34.2%
54. Iowa St. | 12-24 [1-6] | 33.3%
54. Cincinnati (OH) | 13-26 [0-6] | 33.3%
56. Rutgers (NJ) | 12-25 [0-4] | 32.4%
57. Mississippi | 11-23 [1-2] | 32.4%
57. Penn St. | 11-23 [0-5] | 32.4%
59. Virginia | 12-26 [0-3] | 31.6%
60. Syracuse (NY) | 10-29 [0-5] | 25.6%
61. Vanderbilt (TN) | 8-28 [0-5] | 22.2%
61. Illinois | 8-28 [0-4] | 22.2%
63. Kentucky | 7-28 [0-8] | 20.0%
64. Mississippi St. | 7-29 [0-2] | 19.4%
65. Kansas | 6-29 [0-6] | 17.1%
66. Indiana | 6-33 [0-3] | 15.4%
67. Baylor (TX) | 5-31 [0-5] | 13.9%
68. Duke (NC) | 2-36 [0-2] | 05.3%
Team | Away Record vs. Non-Conf Majors [vs. NCM Final AP Top 10] | vs. NCM Winning %
1. Georgia | 4-0 [0-0] | 100.0%
1. Kansas St. | 3-0 [0-0] | 100.0%
1. Oklahoma St. | 1-0 [0-0] | 100.0%
4. Michigan St. | 5-1 [1-0] | 83.3%
5. Wake Forest (NC) | 4-1 [0-0] | 80.0%
6. Southern California | 7-2 [2-1] | 77.8%
7. Texas | 3-1 [1-0] | 75.0%
7. Wisconsin | 3-1 [0-1] | 75.0%
7. Ohio St. | 3-1 [0-0] | 75.0%
7. Northwestern (IL) | 3-1 [0-0] | 75.0%
11. Miami (FL) | 5-2 [0-2] | 71.4%
12. Louisville (KY) | 7-3 [0-1] | 70.0%
13. Tennessee | 2-1 [1-1] | 66.7%
13. Vanderbilt (TN) | 4-2 [0-1] | 66.7%
13. North Carolina St. | 2-1 [0-1] | 66.7%
13. Louisiana St. | 2-1 [0-0] | 66.7%
17. Virginia Tech | 3-2 [1-1] | 60.0%
17. Notre Dame (IN) | 18-12 [0-5] | 60.0%
17. Arizona St. | 3-2 [0-1] | 60.0%
20. UCLA | 4-3 [0-1] | 57.1%
20. Georgia Tech | 4-3 [0-2] | 57.1%
22. Florida St. | 4-4 [0-3] | 50.0%
22. Boston College (MA) | 3-3 [0-0] | 50.0%
22. California | 3-3 [0-0] | 50.0%
22. Purdue (IN) | 3-3 [0-0] | 50.0%
22. Nebraska | 2-2 [0-1] | 50.0%
22. Missouri | 2-2 [0-0] | 50.0%
22. Arkansas | 1-1 [0-1] | 50.0%
22. Minnesota | 1-1 [0-0] | 50.0%
30. Iowa St. | 2-3 [1-1] | 40.0%
30. Pittsburgh (PA) | 2-3 [0-0] | 40.0%
30. Clemson (SC) | 2-3 [0-1] | 40.0%
30. Florida | 2-3 [0-2] | 40.0%
34. North Carolina | 3-5 [0-1] | 37.5%
35. Washington St. | 2-4 [0-2] | 33.3%
35. Rutgers (NJ) | 2-4 [0-0] | 33.3%
35. Colorado | 2-4 [0-0] | 33.3%
35. Texas Tech | 1-2 [0-1] | 33.3%
35. Oklahoma | 1-2 [0-0] | 33.3%
35. Oregon | 1-2 [0-1] | 33.3%
35. Oregon St. | 1-2 [0-0] | 33.3%
42. Connecticut | 4-10 [0-1] | 28.6%
42. West Virginia | 2-5 [0-1] | 28.6%
42. Iowa | 2-5 [0-2] | 28.6%
45. Virginia | 2-6 [0-1] | 25.0%
45. Texas A&M | 1-3 [0-0] | 25.0%
45. Kentucky | 1-3 [0-1] | 25.0%
48. Utah | 2-7 [0-2] | 22.2%
48. Cincinnati (OH) | 2-7 [0-2] | 22.2%
50. Syracuse (NY) | 2-8 [0-2] | 20.0%
50. Maryland | 1-4 [0-1] | 20.0%
50. South Carolina | 1-4 [0-0] | 20.0%
53. South Florida | 2-9 [0-2] | 18.2%
54. Indiana | 1-5 [0-0] | 16.7%
54. Illinois | 1-5 [0-0] | 16.7%
54. Washington | 1-5 [0-3] | 16.7%
54. Michigan | 1-5 [0-0] | 16.7%
58. Mississippi St. | 0-1 [0-0] | 00.0%
58. Boise St. (ID) | 0-7 [0-1] | 00.0%
58. Alabama | 0-2 [0-1] | 00.0%
58. Baylor (TX) | 0-2 [0-0] | 00.0%
58. Stanford (CA) | 0-5 [0-0] | 00.0%
58. Mississippi | 0-2 [0-0] | 00.0%
58. Kansas | 0-1 [0-0] | 00.0%
58. Arizona | 0-3 [0-1] | 00.0%
58. Duke (NC) | 0-6 [0-0] | 00.0%
58. Penn St. | 0-6 [0-0] | 00.0%
58. Auburn (AL) | 0-3 [0-1] | 00.0%
Team | Winning% Variance (Home-Away)
Virginia +43.4%
South Florida +39.3%
Kansas +38.4%
Cincinnati (OH) +38.1%
Penn St. +37.9%
Nebraska +36.6%
Syracuse (NY) +36.3%
Texas Tech +34.8%
Iowa +33.3%
Oregon St. +32.0%
Minnesota +31.6%
Iowa St. +31.1%
Indiana +31.0%
Mississippi +30.7%
Maryland +28.6%
Arizona St. +27.8%
Boston College (MA) +27.7%
Michigan +27.4%
Baylor (TX) +27.0%
Kansas St. +26.9%
UCLA +26.1%
Washington +25.7%
Missouri +25.3%
Oklahoma St. +25.3%
Kentucky +24.4%
Clemson (SC) +23.9%
Purdue (IN) +23.9%
Illinois +23.2%
Louisiana St. +23.0%
Boise St. (ID) +22.0%
Connecticut +20.6%
Michigan St. +20.1%
Auburn (AL) +20.0%
Mississippi St. +19.2%
Colorado +19.1%
Texas A&M +18.7%
South Carolina +18.4%
Florida +18.3%
Pittsburgh (PA) +18.2%
Oklahoma +16.9%
Alabama +16.6%
North Carolina St. +16.5%
Louisville (KY) +16.3%
Oregon +16.2%
California +15.8%
Georgia +14.9%
Ohio St. +14.8%
Utah +14.7%
Texas +14.6%
Rutgers (NJ) +14.1%
Northwestern (IL) +13.7%
Florida St. +13.2%
Virginia Tech +11.9%
Duke (NC) +11.4%
Georgia Tech +11.0%
North Carolina +10.0%
Wisconsin +9.7%
Washington St. -9.6%
Southern California +8.7%
Miami (FL) +8.6%
Stanford (CA) +8.3%
West Virginia +8.3%
Vanderbilt (TN) +5.1%
Notre Dame (IN) +4.9%
Arkansas +3.4%
Wake Forest (NC) -0.9%
Arizona -0.5%
Tennessee -0.5%

Re: AWAY Game Records (2000-06)

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:53 pm
by Q, West Coast Style
Compare

1. Oklahoma | 33-9 = 42 Road Games
2. Texas | 32-9 = 41 Road Games
35. Southern California = 40 Road Games

To

6. Ohio St. | 24-9 = 33 Road Games
13. Louisiana St. | 22-12 = 34 Road Games Hey Les your conference better be better because you don't leave it.
15. Auburn (AL) | 21-12 = 33 Road Games

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:05 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
It's not surprising to me at all that ND has one of the lowest winning differentials between home and road games. Weis has only been the coach for two of the five seasons referenced, but ND is actually better on the road than at home in his tenure. ND is 9-1 on the road and 10-3 at home under Weis (counting the neutral field game vs. Navy as a roadie and not including bowl games). ND's only loss on the road under Weis was to USC last season.

A few quick drive-by's to throw out:

ND's 2-10 record vs. Top 10 teams in the last five seasons has been really disheartening. Historically, ND was at its best in the role of giant killer. I hope those days aren't over.

Also, why is it that http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com lists ND's home games as being played in "South Bend, IN" but Air Force's home games as being played in "Air Force Academy, CO"? If they're striving for consistency, shouldn't they call the location of an Air Force home game Colorado Springs?

Re: AWAY Game Records (2000-06)

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:31 pm
by L45B
Q, West Coast Style wrote:Compare

1. Oklahoma | 33-9 = 42 Road Games
2. Texas | 32-9 = 41 Road Games
35. Southern California = 40 Road Games

To

6. Ohio St. | 24-9 = 33 Road Games
13. Louisiana St. | 22-12 = 34 Road Games Hey Les your conference better be better because you don't leave it.
15. Auburn (AL) | 21-12 = 33 Road Games
First off, you'll get little argument out of me regarding USC. They are setting the standard in non-conference scheduling right now and more teams should follow suit. Ohio State has some fantastic home&homes coming up (USC, Miami, Oklahoma, VaTech to name a few) but I admit the AD pads the remainder of the non-conf schedule with MAC teams and Youngstown St. Not a fan.

I think you gotta take Oklahoma & Texas out of the equation though. From '00-06, each has played each other seven times at a neutral site. Plus, Oklahoma has played five Big XII championship games in that span. Texas has played two. All nine of Texas' neutral site games were played in the state of Texas. If Ohio State played Michigan in Toledo every year, they would be closer to 40 as well. Though I'm ready whenever the Big Ten is, as far as implementing a conference championship game.

Re: AWAY Game Records (2000-06)

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:39 am
by SoCalTrjn
L45B wrote:
Q, West Coast Style wrote:Compare

1. Oklahoma | 33-9 = 42 Road Games
2. Texas | 32-9 = 41 Road Games
35. Southern California = 40 Road Games

To

6. Ohio St. | 24-9 = 33 Road Games
13. Louisiana St. | 22-12 = 34 Road Games Hey Les your conference better be better because you don't leave it.
15. Auburn (AL) | 21-12 = 33 Road Games
First off, you'll get little argument out of me regarding USC. They are setting the standard in non-conference scheduling right now and more teams should follow suit. Ohio State has some fantastic home&homes coming up (USC, Miami, Oklahoma, VaTech to name a few) but I admit the AD pads the remainder of the non-conf schedule with MAC teams and Youngstown St. Not a fan.

I think you gotta take Oklahoma & Texas out of the equation though. From '00-06, each has played each other seven times at a neutral site. Plus, Oklahoma has played five Big XII championship games in that span. Texas has played two. All nine of Texas' neutral site games were played in the state of Texas. If Ohio State played Michigan in Toledo every year, they would be closer to 40 as well. Though I'm ready whenever the Big Ten is, as far as implementing a conference championship game.
USC's 30-10 road record includes a 4-6 road run in 2000/2001, USC is 26-4 on the road since 2002, course since 2002 the Trojans are 30-0 at home and over the last 5 years USC is 60-5 including bowl games

Re: AWAY Game Records (2000-06)

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:31 am
by Terry in Crapchester
L45B wrote:Though I'm ready whenever the Big Ten is, as far as implementing a conference championship game.
Don't hold your breath on that one.

The Big Ten wants ND as its 12th member. The problem is that the overwhelming majority of ND's fanbase (as in upwards of 99%) want ND to remain independent in football. And even if ND had no alternative but to join a conference, the majority of its fanbase wants nothing to do with the Big Ten.

Landing another Big East school, such as Pitt, might not be an option either. The remaining members of the Big East have made a pledge not to bolt. Granted, that might not be enforceable in a court of law, but the Big East's new rules relative to leaving the conference (requires 5 years notice or a $5 million exit fee; prior to '03 those numbers were 1 year and $1 million, respectively) probably are. Btw, ND might also be subject to those rules, given that they're a Big East member in most sports other than football (assuming, of course, that ND wouldn't join the Big Ten as a football-only member).

As far as non-BCS schools go, while the MAC pretty much overlaps the Big Ten geographically, Miami of Ohio is probably the only MAC school that would meet the Big Ten's academic standards. Of course, Ohio State probably would oppose any proposal to add Miami of Ohio, much as Michigan previously did the same to Michigan State. Also, the Big Ten in general might not accept Miami of Ohio, given that they would wind up with buyer's remorse should they do that and ND or Pitt later became available to them. And from Miami of Ohio's standpoint, athletically speaking they would go from a respectable MAC school to a perennial Big Ten doormat, at least for the first 5-10 years or so. Of course, those concerns might be outweighed by the opportunity to take their program to the big-time level and get a slice of the BCS revenue.

You can't get a conference championship game with 11 schools. The ACC tried to do that in '03 and the NCAA turned them down flat.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:21 am
by Carson
Sudden Sam wrote:Auburn's 5-0 against bammer is really impressive.
We have dedicated ourselves to maintaining our domination of Trial Lawyer U.

What's Bama's current record against ANY road trips?

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:54 pm
by PSUFAN
why is it that http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com lists ND's home games as being played in "South Bend, IN" but Air Force's home games as being played in "Air Force Academy, CO"? If they're striving for consistency, shouldn't they call the location of an Air Force home game Colorado Springs?
You're probably right. Email someone at the site and I'm sure they'll fix it up. They do a great job with that free resource, and I'm sure they'd appreciate any clerical help that was offered.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:38 pm
by MuchoBulls
I'm hopeful that our late season win @ WVU last season turns us into a better road team. The attitude of the team definitely changed after that game.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:54 pm
by King Crimson
PSUFAN wrote:
why is it that http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com lists ND's home games as being played in "South Bend, IN" but Air Force's home games as being played in "Air Force Academy, CO"? If they're striving for consistency, shouldn't they call the location of an Air Force home game Colorado Springs?
You're probably right. Email someone at the site and I'm sure they'll fix it up. They do a great job with that free resource, and I'm sure they'd appreciate any clerical help that was offered.
actually, in the late 80's when the ND/AFA series was at it's heyday. the Academy was still 14 miles north and west of C Springs proper--which may lead to the distinction, along with official government postal addys: AFA, CO now, that the Springs has grown so much, it may not be as much in common usage--and people do generally refer to the Academy being in the Springs. but, note the address line at the bottom of this webpage:

"U.S. Air Force Academy, USAFA, CO 80840, (719) 333-1110 DSN: 333-1110, 24 Jul 07"

http://www.usafa.af.mil/index.cfm?catna ... emy%20Info

Re: AWAY Game Records (2000-06)

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:22 pm
by RumpleForeskin
Terry in Crapchester wrote:Don't hold your breath on that one.

The Big Ten wants ND as its 12th member. The problem is that the overwhelming majority of ND's fanbase (as in upwards of 99%) want ND to remain independent in football. And even if ND had no alternative but to join a conference, the majority of its fanbase wants nothing to do with the Big Ten.

Landing another Big East school, such as Pitt, might not be an option either. The remaining members of the Big East have made a pledge not to bolt. Granted, that might not be enforceable in a court of law, but the Big East's new rules relative to leaving the conference (requires 5 years notice or a $5 million exit fee; prior to '03 those numbers were 1 year and $1 million, respectively) probably are. Btw, ND might also be subject to those rules, given that they're a Big East member in most sports other than football (assuming, of course, that ND wouldn't join the Big Ten as a football-only member).

As far as non-BCS schools go, while the MAC pretty much overlaps the Big Ten geographically, Miami of Ohio is probably the only MAC school that would meet the Big Ten's academic standards. Of course, Ohio State probably would oppose any proposal to add Miami of Ohio, much as Michigan previously did the same to Michigan State. Also, the Big Ten in general might not accept Miami of Ohio, given that they would wind up with buyer's remorse should they do that and ND or Pitt later became available to them. And from Miami of Ohio's standpoint, athletically speaking they would go from a respectable MAC school to a perennial Big Ten doormat, at least for the first 5-10 years or so. Of course, those concerns might be outweighed by the opportunity to take their program to the big-time level and get a slice of the BCS revenue.

You can't get a conference championship game with 11 schools. The ACC tried to do that in '03 and the NCAA turned them down flat.
What about adding Iowa St. to the Big Ten and moving Boise St. to the Big XII. Obviously it doesn't do much for the draw of the Big 10 or the Big XII in the big scheme of things as far as money goes, but it would make it easier to make a move like that.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:38 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
King Crimson wrote:
PSUFAN wrote:
why is it that http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com lists ND's home games as being played in "South Bend, IN" but Air Force's home games as being played in "Air Force Academy, CO"? If they're striving for consistency, shouldn't they call the location of an Air Force home game Colorado Springs?
You're probably right. Email someone at the site and I'm sure they'll fix it up. They do a great job with that free resource, and I'm sure they'd appreciate any clerical help that was offered.
actually, in the late 80's when the ND/AFA series was at it's heyday. the Academy was still 14 miles north and west of C Springs proper--which may lead to the distinction, along with official government postal addys: AFA, CO now, that the Springs has grown so much, it may not be as much in common usage--and people do generally refer to the Academy being in the Springs. but, note the address line at the bottom of this webpage:

"U.S. Air Force Academy, USAFA, CO 80840, (719) 333-1110 DSN: 333-1110, 24 Jul 07"

http://www.usafa.af.mil/index.cfm?catna ... emy%20Info
That argument only gives more ammo to the idea of changing the location of ND's home games from South Bend. ND always was, and still is, located outside South Bend city limits. And if you go to http://www.nd.edu, you'll find this address line at the bottom of the webpage:

University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN 46556