T1B

[align=center]Suspect arrested in tortoise torturing

‘Bob’ was slashed, stabbed and left for dead


Bob, an endangered African spurred tortoise, was slashed and stabbed after
being stolen from his home. The red tube shown in the photo is a feeding tube.


VENTURA, Calif. - A man who police believe tortured an endangered tortoise
by trying to cut him out of his shell and throwing him against a wall was arrested
Thursday.

The 25-year-old African spurred tortoise, named Bob, was slashed and stabbed
after being stolen from the home of an autistic boy. After he was brutalized, the
turtle was dumped in brush behind an apartment complex and an anonymous caller
told the family where to find him.

Witnesses to the torture provided information that helped lead to the arrest of Jose
"Tony" Mosqueda, 18, of Ventura, who was booked at the county jail for investigation
of cruelty to animals and grand theft, police said.

"It's a good feeling. It's kind of neat," Sgt. Jack Richards said. "It just really pulled at
some heartstrings and it's good to have someone in custody."

The turtle is recovering at Turtle Dreams, a Montecito rehabilitation center. He
remained in guarded condition and was being fed through a tube in his neck.


‘Coming out of his shell’

"He's getting more relaxed and coming out of his shell" more often, said Jeanie Vaughan,
the center's owner. "If he continues without any infection, I think he's going to be fine."


Jose "Tony" Mosqueda, 18, of Ventura, Calif., in a booking photo

Earlier this week, he gave owners Dorothy and Bill Sullivan some hope when he reached
a key milestone in his recovery: bringing his head out of his shell and taking his first steps.

The tortoise collapsed but then managed to take eight steps.

"When he finished, he had a tear in his eye ... as did the rest of us," Dorothy Sullivan
said. "It was an excellent, great sign."

Dorothy Sullivan said that she and her son danced with happiness when they heard of the
arrest. Her son has not been sleeping well since the attack, she said.

"His security fell apart," she said. "He was afraid that somebody was going to come and
steal him and take him away and hurt him."

"Now he feels safe. Now he can go out and play," she said.

The family has installed security cameras and an alarm on the backyard fence so that Bob
will be safer when he returns.


-------------------------[/align]

A hurting tortoise could be laying in the knee-deep of a lagoon, but thankfully 'Bob' was laying in the brush.
We thank our lucky stars for that miracle.

In a world of woe -- A.I.D.S run amok in Africa, pedophile priests, and Hammerin' Hank on the brink of eclipse, we find a story we can all rally around!



[align=center]You GO Bob!!!!![/align]

The family has installed security cameras and an alarm on the backyard fence so that Bob
will be safer when he returns.

A "Now Hiring - EOE" sign on the fence might have been just as effective.

The the last day alone, I have read of Mike Vick's activities, teenage girls setting kittens on fire and now some idiot pendejo is torturing turtles just for fun?

It's almost enough to make me not buy anything from Archer Daniels Midland.

In Mexico we stuffed the M-80's up the Turtles ass and sparked the fuse. Fukken California don't let us have no Firecrackers so we just do a shank and slam on the lil fuckers. They be lucky that way...

I opened this and assumed something had happened to Doctor........

Why would someone do this to a turtle? and how'd the mentally challenged kid get a very rare turtle in the first place? if it's that rare, shouldn't it be in a zoo and not in someone's home?

Small potatoes. Mosqueda should go to jail for a year, followed by 5 years of community service and probation. You just don't do that to another living being. Remember the kittens which were being found skinned alive and left on the roadside a couple years ago? You just don't do that, because if you're willing to do that to an animal .... what are you willing to do to a human being?

If you're going to pull that, you better have been caught in the middle of eating.

BSmack wrote:The the last day alone, I have read of Mike Vick's activities, teenage girls setting kittens on fire and now some idiot pendejo is torturing turtles just for fun?

It's almost enough to make me not buy anything from Archer Daniels Midland.

How X-Files. Or maybe there's something to it. If hormones in food is making kids develop faster physically/sexually, what else is it doing?

As for Michael Vick, there are a lot of people who would say that he did nothing wrong. But then, I live in New Mexico, where when the similar cockfighting issue comes up there are always dudes in the paper talking bullshit about 'this is our heritage and you are racist if you try to take it away from us' and 'cockfighting builds strong men in the community' followed by 'i am a respected, educated person in my community and i support our tradition, cockfighting'. Michael Vick's actions, if the things said about those animals deaths are true, would mark him as a serial killer and sociopath if they were done to human beings. But a lot of people don't think an animal's life is worth that much.... particularly if money is to be made.


I hope Bob pulls through.

Risa wrote:Mosqueda should go to jail for a year, followed by 5 years of community service and probation.

Fuck that. His actions have indicated that he's a threat to society. He should be looking at a bare minimum of 10 years.

A feeding tube...and prayers? For little ol' me?

--Fat Bob

Pray for him!


Sin,

The Raiders are going all the way y'all.

sin,

This will be a nice story if Bob can recover all the way. I'm torn as far as punishment for the offender. He's only 18 and it says he's autistic. That's an unfortunate thing in itself. But jail is a harsh place, and it might make things only worse for the boy in the future. But on the other hand a family is really devastated when their pet is mauled in such a way. I've heard that serial killers are known to have often begun thier antisocial behavior by taking out aggression on animals. Young Mosqueda better receive some helpful couseling and dignosis to make sure he's on the right track.

Finally nature is not to be messed with that way. It's a beautiful creature. Some here called it a turtle but it's actually a tortoise. There is a difference.

Word is out that Bob The Turtle is making a comeback.......

Dan Vogel wrote:This will be a nice story if Bob can recover all the way. I'm torn as far as punishment for the offender. He's only 18 and it says he's autistic.

Not it doesn't. The tortoise was a pet to an autistic boy. This sick demented fuck who abused this defenseless creature for his own pleasure was "normal".

Toddowen wrote:Was he their first drummer?

Fuckin half breed piece of shit. Maybe if his momma didn't fuck noggers, the kid may have had half a chance.

I am betting he can get a gram of ice up them dope holes in his nose.

Let some snappin turtle nip his crank a few times, he might learn.

mvscal wrote:

Toddowen wrote:Seriously....put the lowlife away until he's at least 30.

A bullet in the back of the head would be the proper proactive response.

I was thinking more along the lines of a plunger wrapped in barbed wire. I'm sure the NYPD needs practice.

BSmack wrote:

Dan Vogel wrote:This will be a nice story if Bob can recover all the way. I'm torn as far as punishment for the offender. He's only 18 and it says he's autistic.

Not it doesn't. The tortoise was a pet to an autistic boy. This sick demented fuck who abused this defenseless creature for his own pleasure was "normal".

I'm sorry I misread that, BSmack. I read Toddowen say he thinks the young man should be in prison until he's 30 and you said for 10 years. Keep in mind that you might gain satisfaction from that but it might be counterproductive. Prison might more harden a young man. It might end up creating more of a problem and turn him into more of a threat to society. You know what I mean? I'd recommend probabtion, community service, and counseling. I bet he comes from either an abusive family or a family with serious problems. He needs to be straightend out not hurt.

And mvscal just wants to try to solve a problem with a gun. It's typical of what I read from him. Either overly macho rantings, probably designed to cover for his own personal inedequecies, or violent racist solutions to problems needing care.

I'm a little sensitive to this story because of our own family's zoo incident with Tony, where he accidentally injured a goose and got himself into a serious problem. Of course Tony didn't attack anything. Well I feel bad for the family of the animal because it's part of mother nature and I love animals.

Get well soon, Bob.

Dan Vogel wrote:I'm sorry I misread that, BSmack. I read Toddowen say he thinks the young man should be in prison until he's 30 and you said for 10 years. Keep in mind that you might gain satisfaction from that but it might be counterproductive. Prison might more harden a young man. It might end up creating more of a problem and turn him into more of a threat to society. You know what I mean? I'd recommend probabtion, community service, and counseling. I bet he comes from either an abusive family or a family with serious problems. He needs to be straightend out not hurt.

I'm of the opinion that once someone demonstrates that level of disregard for both life and property, that they are already "hardened" enough.

A fellow I once knew who was a prison guard once told me that once a young person has committed an unprovoked violent crime, that his chances of a repeat offense were so great that he honestly felt society would be better served were the young man to be given 20 years right of the bat. That will pretty much keep the perp in prison until their 40th birthday when they are worn down and not nearly as much a threat to society. I think this perp is a perfect example of such a person.

I think the guard was less concerned about the effect on society than he was geeked about cultivating a fresh dope dealer resource that wasn't going anywhere for a few decades.

PSUFAN wrote:I think the guard was less concerned about the effect on society than he was geeked about cultivating a fresh dope dealer resource that wasn't going anywhere for a few decades.

Nice strawman. If you're feeling really froggy, how about adressing the merits of the argument?

I think that dealing with first time violent offenders harshly is a good idea. Once they enter prison, if they survive, they'll be toughened and ready to continue their criminal progress. The stats - and common sense - support this.

I think that prison guards often become involved with illegal activity - and not just because I watched "OZ" - I knew someone who had been a guard for a long time.

The merits of your argument, Brian? That based on anecdotal evidence and the “opinion” of a prison guard we should start meting out extremely harsh prison sentences? Don’t get me wrong, I think this particular individual is pure scum, but your original suggestion of 10 years seems reasonable.

And at 40 years of age, an ex-con is more than capable as a threat to society. Worn down? Just that much more hardened.