Pac 10 (read: Pussy 10)

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:52 pm

Through no fault of my own I found myself listening to Colin Cowturd over the lunch hour. Apparently the Pussy 10 commissioner has come out and said that if the BCS actually does implement the “Plus one” championship game, the Pussy 10 will walk away from the BCS. Trojans should be prohibitive favorites in the Gator Bowl.

Mr T · Post by **Mr T** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 7:01 pm

All it would take would be one conference to pull out and the plus one wouldnt go through.

But I would have to see a link and the reasoning behind the pac 10 commissioner decision

Bucmonkey · Post by **Bucmonkey** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:21 pm

Bingo Sam, ruffle some feathers.

Blueblood · Post by **Blueblood** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:45 pm

"I'm citing you, SEC fans, because you're all a bunch of idiots!

Bucmonkey wrote:Bingo Sam, ruffle some feathers.

The SEC is exactly .500 against the Pac-10 since 1986. Since 2000, it is 8-6 in favor of the Pac-10, even with the 1-3 result last year (which, it should be said, was the result of four games played in SEC stadiums, two of them being stronger SEC teams matched against weaker Pac-10 teams).

Prior to the 2006 debacle for the Pac 10, only LSU had defeated a team from our conference. Two of LSU's victories were squeakers and the one against Oregon State was perhaps the luckiest of the modern era.

Degenerate · Post by **Degenerate** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:18 pm

Goober McTuber wrote:Through no fault of my own I found myself listening to Colin Cowturd over the lunch hour. Apparently the Pussy 10 commissioner has come out and said that if the BCS actually does implement the “Plus one” championship game, the Pussy 10 will walk away from the BCS.

Hasn't the Big Ten commissioner said the same thing?

Blueblood · Post by **Blueblood** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:45 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:Let the Big Ten absorb USC. Ain't nobody else in the Pac 10 worth a shit anyway. Adios!

Big 12 champs: Cal

Nice compliment by Dennis Franchione, HC of Texas A&M.

Coach Fran always has seemed like a decent guy and a good coach. When he saw what was going on at Bama, he wanted no part of it and bailed as soon as he had the opportunity.

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:03 pm

so Cal beat a mediocre aTm and they are champs?

this is the team who got assfucked with out the lube to Taco Tech. NOONE in the big12 gets assraped by taco tech.

Leach ownz Tedford

Blueblood · Post by **Blueblood** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:24 pm

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Adelpiero wrote:so Cal beat a mediocre aTm and they are champs?

this is the team who got assfucked with out the lube to Taco Tech. NOONE in the big12 gets assraped by taco tech.

You mean that "hail mary" in the last minute to beat A&M... yeah, that's an "ass fucking".

A&M lost 3 games by a total of 6 points... before they played Cal.

You're giving SEC fan, a run for his money. Congrats

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:50 am

I believe Adel is referring to the assfucking Kal took from taco tceh the year before in the bowl game.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:34 am

Someone remind me...

Who invented bowl games, again?

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:01 am

what makes anyone think a plus 1 is going to solve anything? It means that teams will have a month to prepare for a semi final game and then get ready for the biggest game of the year in 1 week... including travel.
Either go with a 8-16 team playoff and NCCA created schedules or leave it alone

Also with a plus 1 you go from 10 teams making a BCS bowl back to 8, who does that kick out of BCS Bowls last year? LSU and Boise State.
You would have USC vs Ohio State in the Rose Bowl, Florida vs Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl, Oklahoma vs Wake Forest in the Orange Bowl and Michigan vs Louisville in the Fiesta Bowl.
which 2 Bowls winners get chosen?

There is nothing wrong with fixing the problem, but a plus one doesnt fix anything

Terry in Crapchester · Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:57 am

SoCalTrjn wrote:what makes anyone think a plus 1 is going to solve anything? It means that teams will have a month to prepare for a semi final game and then get ready for the biggest game of the year in 1 week... including travel.

Regardless of which format you use, you're going to have that issue. Most schools have finals during the month of December, and the university presidents, if they have an ounce of credibility remaining, won't allow games to be played during that time.

Either go with a 8-16 team playoff and NCCA created schedules or leave it alone

I myself prefer a 16-team playoff, and I think that's the inevitable long-term solution. Having said that, however, it may be too drastic a jump to arrive at that all at once. I see no reason for the NCAA to get involved in scheduling.

Also with a plus 1 you go from 10 teams making a BCS bowl back to 8, who does that kick out of BCS Bowls last year? LSU and Boise State.

Not necessarily. Remember, the current BCS system came about largely to keep the BCS out of antitrust litigation. It's much easier for a team from a non-BCS conference to qualify for the BCS now than it was in the past. I think the BCS retains that format, even in a Plus One. In that event, look for the BCS to add an additional bowl game.

You would have USC vs Ohio State in the Rose Bowl, Florida vs Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl, Oklahoma vs Wake Forest in the Orange Bowl and Michigan vs Louisville in the Fiesta Bowl.
which 2 Bowls winners get chosen?

Here's how I think a Plus One should work, incorporating the BCS.

Make the BCS championship game the Plus One game and add another bowl to the BCS mix. My suggestion is the Cotton Bowl, given the history involved in that game.

The BCS would be altered somewhat so that in the bowl round, 1 plays 4 and 2 plays 3. The only exception is where one or both of these games produces a regular-season rematch, in which case I would make it 1 vs. 3 and 2 vs. 4 if those matchups did not create a regular-season rematch.

The semifinal games would be played in the bowl sites tied into the teams finishing 1 and 2, under the following schedule:

Rose Bowl: Big 10 champ or Pac-10 champ.
Sugar Bowl: SEC champ
Cotton Bowl: Big XII champ
Orange Bowl: ACC champ or Big East champ
Fiesta Bowl: Pac-10 champ (only if Big Ten champ and Pac-10 champ finish 1 and 2); Big East champ (only if ACC champ and Big East champ finish 1 and 2); any independent or non-BCS conference member finishing 1 or 2.

Any BCS conference team that finished 1 or 2 but did not win its conference championship would be tied into the bowl game ordinarily represented by its conference champion, unless the conference champion also finished 1 or 2. In that case, the conference champion would play in the bowl game with the conference tie-in, and the runner-up would play in the Fiesta Bowl.

Any bowl games not involved in the playoff would have conference tie-ins as set forth above, with one exception. The Fiesta Bowl would have no conference tie-ins in a non-playoff format, except where the Rose Bowl was involved in the playoff and the Pac-10 champion was not part of the playoff. In that case, the Pac-10 champion goes to the Fiesta Bowl.

The championship game would be played in one of the BCS sites on a rotating basis, so that each bowl game was guaranteed involvement in the process at least once in five years.

If you had a Plus One format last year, the BCS might have looked like this:

Rose Bowl: tOSU vs. LSU (semifinal game)
Sugar Bowl: Florida vs. Michigan (semifinal game)
Fiesta Bowl: USC vs. Boise State
Cotton Bowl: Oklahoma vs. Notre Dame
Orange Bowl: Wake Forest vs. Louisville

Semifinal winners play following week at Fiesta Bowl.

There is nothing wrong with fixing the problem, but a plus one doesnt fix anything

Agree in part. Plus One has its flaws, and imho doesn't go far enough. But it's a step in the right direction.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:29 pm

Degenerate wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:Through no fault of my own I found myself listening to Colin Cowturd over the lunch hour. Apparently the Pussy 10 commissioner has come out and said that if the BCS actually does implement the “Plus one” championship game, the Pussy 10 will walk away from the BCS.
Hasn't the Big Ten commissioner said the same thing?

I guess I’d like to see a link for that one.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:02 am

Terry in Crapchester wrote:If you had a Plus One format last year, the BCS might have looked like this:

Rose Bowl: tOSU vs. LSU (semifinal game)
Sugar Bowl: Florida vs. Michigan (semifinal game)
Fiesta Bowl: USC vs. Boise State
Cotton Bowl: Oklahoma vs. Notre Dame
Orange Bowl: Wake Forest vs. Louisville

After seeing what USC did to Michigan in the Rose Bowl, the plus one leaving the Trojans out of the picture certainly doesnt make the plus one system look like a better fix

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:11 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:Let the Big Ten absorb USC. Ain't nobody else in the Pac 10 worth a shit anyway. Adios!

Terry in Crapchester · Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:22 pm

SoCalTrjn wrote:
Terry in Crapchester wrote:If you had a Plus One format last year, the BCS might have looked like this:

Rose Bowl: tOSU vs. LSU (semifinal game)
Sugar Bowl: Florida vs. Michigan (semifinal game)
Fiesta Bowl: USC vs. Boise State
Cotton Bowl: Oklahoma vs. Notre Dame
Orange Bowl: Wake Forest vs. Louisville
After seeing what USC did to Michigan in the Rose Bowl, the plus one leaving the Trojans out of the picture certainly doesnt make the plus one system look like a better fix

I agree with you in part. Four teams is not enough for a true playoff. You need at least eight (and imho, twelve or sixteen would be ideal).

But if Plus One gets us one step closer to a true playoff, then it's not entirely a bad thing.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:21 pm

and a playoff will never work as long as teams are able to make their own schedules with 7 or 8 home games a year.
If an AD knows that a couple of OOC wins can be the differnece between making the playoffs and not, you will see everyone play all their OOC games at home vs 1aa schools or schools that have no visions of reaching the playoff

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:45 am

I could accept a four-team playoff, it would add only one extra game and would be easy to run. Eight wouldn't be bad but I doubt the NCAA would go for it.

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