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http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/78745.php

No spin, no bullshit, and this time it's for real. You know the drill: On Your Knees, prayin' properly, preparing to eternally encircle the Throne, etc.

Okay, I'm going to post the title of that article, and I'm going to let you kids figure out exactly which part of it you never, and I mean ever, want anywhere near the words "no spin, no bullshit, and this time it's for real":

Woo Suk Hwang, Who Faked Research, Made Spectacular Breakthrough

Oh, and I'd like to be able to judge Cell Stem Cell's record of reliability...but it seems to be a brand new journal. In fact, they're featuring their first issue's contents on the site.

Okay, how many Virgin Births can you take credit for? And I don't mean some mythologized ancient bullshit from some spin-off cult in a backwater shithole colony of Rome. I'm talking REAL Virgin Births.

On yer knees....etc. So what if he's a Korean?

Me personally? None.

On the other hand:

God...1
The Korean quack I Suk Hwang...0

SCOBODE!

Gee, Rich, you’re speaking for God now?

I guess the

Rich Fader wrote:Me personally? None.

at the top of the take sailed right over your vacant dome, didn't it?

No, the problem that I had was that you set God’s tally at one, moron. You personally were not taking credit for any virgin births, but were claiming to know how many God was responsible for.

Perhaps you should have said, “I believe God is at 1, but like most things in life, I don’t really know.”

Taking the 1 away from God still wouldn't give it to I Suk Hwang, now would it?

Fascinating how some of the "reality-based" will believe any old bullshit if it's propagated by some quack with a doctorate.

Rich Fader wrote:Taking the 1 away from God still wouldn't give it to I Suk Hwang, now would it?

Fascinating how some of the "reality-based" will believe any old bullshit if it's propagated by some quack with a doctorate.

Who suggested taking 1 away from God? I know I didn't.

Who are you referring to as "reality-based"? Not Nick Frisco, I hope.

You're not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you?

mvscal wrote:

R-Jack wrote:................but he did it on accident.

Assuming, of course, that he isn't faking this too. I'll wait until somebody else replicates his work.

Exactly.

Meanwhile, LTS Tard II is splooging all over himself ... Look, I just made a baby! This TP is just the right temperature.

LTS TRN 2 wrote:http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/78745.php

No spin, no bullshit, and this time it's for real. You know the drill: On Your Knees, prayin' properly, preparing to eternally encircle the Throne, etc.

Given who this story is about, I thought you were winking and nudging with your first sentence, not being serious.

Oh, dear, Goob. I'm sorry I referred to anybody here as reality based. Including you. I forgot whom I was dealing with here.


(...for old times' sake. Happy?)

Goober McTuber wrote:Who are you referring to as "reality-based"? Not Nick Frisco, I hope.

Israel is fucking us over in the region. Israel First is the impetus behind several of this administrations scandals. Apocalyptic religious prophecies are a shit way to run a country or decide upon foreign (and domestic) policy.

And I Suk Hwang is great gloss. Thank you, Rich.

You're not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you?

Speaking of sharp knives, what does it say of the researchers
who should have known better, who were taken in by Hwang's original fraud?


Parthenogenesis isn't fiction. It's life itself. Examples are everywhere.
XY is the mutation. Saying that, I don't know what the point of cloning is.
I keep seeing the Clonus Horror. There are too many people who want
to do more than just develop a kidney here, a cornea there .... they really
do want to live forever, or develop a super race, or other bullshit.

Risa wrote:
Israel is fucking us over in the region. Israel First is the impetus behind several of this administrations scandals. Apocalyptic religious prophecies are a shit way to run a country or decide upon foreign (and domestic) policy.

Yep, we need to start backing our muslim fucking scumbag (allies) in the region over the democracy...

Maybe I DO understand why Africa is nothing but death and disease with your representative intelligence....


*Please do not take offense to this thread...well, maybe you should....

Rich Fader wrote:Me personally? None.

On the other hand:

God...1
The Korean quack I Suk Hwang...0

SCOBODE!

Try again....

Drop to your knees in veneration, to

Suk, progenitor of life, and

Swallow subsequent edicts, marching orders, etc.

The Seer wrote:

Risa wrote:
Israel is fucking us over in the region. Israel First is the impetus behind several of this administrations scandals. Apocalyptic religious prophecies are a shit way to run a country or decide upon foreign (and domestic) policy.

Yep, we need to start backing our muslim fucking scumbag (allies) in the region over the democracy...

Maybe I DO understand why Africa is nothing but death and disease with your representative intelligence....

*Please do not take offense to this thread...well, maybe you should....

Israel Firsters are not our friends. Neocons are not our friends. Israel has bombed us, stolen technology and information from us, is a welfare state -- if not the biggest welfare state on the american tit, and its American cheerleaders have gotten us into a war we can't win by manipulating apocalypto sheep on the one hand and greed on the other.

And they're supposed to be the good guys?

As for the Africa crack, what exactly has the US done for Nigeria? besides take its oil and pay lip service to cracking down on corruption, I mean. Why would Patrice Lumumba feel it necessary to seek Soviet help instead of American help in dealing with the Belgians? Why would the US feel it necessary to help the Belgians assassinate Patrice? And what part has America played in the conflicts and unrest in Liberia?

and who's hoarding blood diamonds? Africans, or foreign interests in Africa?

Rich Fader wrote:Oh, dear, Goob. I'm sorry I referred to anybody here as reality based. Including you.

I have enough of a grip on reality to know that if I’m a good Christian, I wouldn’t assume to know whether God was responsible for just the one virgin birth specified in the New Testament, or whether there might be others. That was my original point to you. Is this starting to sink in yet, or are there remaining layers of thickness?

Goober McTuber wrote:

Rich Fader wrote:Oh, dear, Goob. I'm sorry

I’m a good Christian, I won’t assume to know God

Your new God is Suk. Unlike the mythical burning bush of some distant hinterland, Suk has produced. Suk is not a racist piece of shit, either. Suk has revealed the basic divinity that lies within--if you're smart and assuming enough to reveal it. Suk didn't create, he simply demonstrated.

Worship Suk (in fact, you've got no choice)

So really, who's the sour a-hole in your nic-pic? I'm squinting my eyes just a bit and I'm thinking Dick Cheney in high school?

I can see you're a bit flommoxed by the whole idea of Virgin Birth. Let me give you a practical corollary example of how this works:

Cheney has Scooter call a flunky reporter to plant a story in the N.Y. Times. Notice there is no actual basis--or sperm--to this story. Cheney then goes on the toadying talk shows the same day the story appears and cites it as a foundation--or egg--for his assertion. Thus, he's created a Fact from nothing.

Now, unlike Cheney, Suk is dealing in actual verifiable facts and matter. After all, it wasn't William Kristol who verified that Suk had produced a Virgin Birth. Get it?

mvscal wrote: This alleged Liberation is based on work done by a documented fraud.

I'm not interested in your drive-by media.

Oh, Dick Cheney called. He thinks you're onto him.

Indeed, Cheney, a documented fraud has claimed to create Fact. And despite William Kristol's claims to verify it, we--that is, all the world--know he's bullshitting. Okay. And this makes sense because Kristol is a fanatical hack with no expertise in military strategy or execution.

In Suk's case, an actual expert--John D. Gearhart, a stem cell expert at Johns Hopkins University who had a ringside view of the Hwang affair as a member of the journal Science’s advisory board, said parthenogenesis had always been a possibility. And researchers at Harvard Stem Cell Institute who looked closely at Hwang's data found the stem cells may be the first to have been produced by parthenogenesis or "virgin birth."

These aren't hacks like Rove and Kagan.

Suk has delivered, without blowing off anyone's legs.

LTS TRN 2 wrote:

Goober McTuber wrote:

Rich Fader wrote:Oh, dear, Goob. I'm sorry

I’m a good Christian, I won’t assume to know God

Your new God is Suk. Unlike the mythical burning bush of some distant hinterland, Suk has produced. Suk is not a racist piece of shit, either. Suk has revealed the basic divinity that lies within--if you're smart and assuming enough to reveal it. Suk didn't create, he simply demonstrated.

Worship Suk (in fact, you've got no choice)

What the fuck are you babbling about?!?

Goob, you've got to move outside the box here. This isn't a simple case of Cheney's fakery resulting in a catastrophic Quagmire, or for that matter the early Church fathers cooking up a phony myth-twist and launching 1500 years of repression and ignorance. No, this is a simple if extremely complicated example of a fundamental truth, the significance of which is for each of us to realize. The irony of Suk having done this inadvertently is wonderfully Greek--much the oblique method of Perseus.