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Posted: **Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:43 pm**

http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/articl ... 70395/1032

The Israeli jets, btw, had their Star Of David insignias covered.

Posted: **Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:56 am**

And almost 30 years ago ...

This happened

Explain that, LTS.

Posted: **Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:32 pm**

The massive coverup that every single member of Congress and the government participated in. Oh yea, even the liberal media was hushed up, those noble purveyors of truth. I've read about this incident before, but what is your point? A potential chance to demonize our country as usual? You're a card-carrying member of "9/11 truth-seekers" or some other scat fetish group as well I assume? I don't mean to sound like I'm worked up over your post. I'm just (kind of) trying to understand your motivations and all.

Posted: **Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:24 pm**

Actually, Mick, as the damaged Liberty was towed to Malta, with the dead and wounded, a three-star admiral came on board, heard all the accounts, and ordered all members of the ship to silence. The cover-up was indeed extensive, ordered directly by LBJ.

The point? Well, for starters, we should know that Israel is NOT our "friend" at all. Rather, it is an amoral apartheid state experiment run by fanatical Ashkanazis--who have committed all manner of similar crimes during their sixty-year existence.

You should know the truth. For starters.

Posted: **Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:04 pm**

mvscal wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote:The point? Well, for starters, we should know that Israel is NOT our "friend" at all.
Oh, but the shiteating Islamist fucksticks who fly planes into our building are?

You should try breaking bread with them sometime.

They are people like you and me.

Posted: **Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:28 am**

Well, babs, you're a joke. A cartoon of blotto blustering bigotry. Really, like Rusp Limpdick, you're a caricature of absurd reactionary bile. Your assertions are easily refuted, despite your seething playground taunts. Your "depth" goes no further than a bitter sneer. You've nothing. You're outted as an obvious phony.

Why do you post at all? Really.

Posted: **Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:57 pm**

The attack on the Liberty is very strange. It would be good to get to the bottom of it, seeing as American soldiers were injured.

Posted: **Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:25 pm**

LTS TRN 2 wrote:Forty Years Ago...Liberty Was Attacked

Actually, it was more like 130 years ago.

Somewhere's around 1876. And he had it coming.

Posted: **Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:57 pm**

Fair enough on the Liberty attack, I know less than you do on the topic. But Martyred, breaking bread with jihadists? You are lost in a fantasy world. Try putting that into practice unless you are of the same sect as the murderers you're face to face with. Pull your head out of your ass, that's a completely mindless thing to say.

Posted: **Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:44 pm**

PSUFAN wrote:The attack on the Liberty is very strange. It would be good to get to the bottom of it, seeing as American soldiers were injured.

Not just injured, P-fan, thirty-four were murdered in an attack that lasted hours. THE ISRAELIS NOT ONLY HIT THE LIBERTY WITH A TORPEDO, BUT STRAFED IT WITH MACHINE GUNS FROM BOATS, AND DROPPED NAPALM ON IT FROM JETS.

The "official" excuse offered by Israel was a pathetic lie to the effect that they mistook the Liberty for an Egyptian vessel (which looked nothing like the Liberty--had been sunk long before). and that the Liberty had no American flag displayed. Total bullshit.

In fact the Liberty was a spy ship, observing the fighting occurring between Israeli and Egyptian forces. Ariel Sharon, an Israeli general at the time had apparently catured several thousand Egyptians on the Sinai Peninsula--and wanted to execute them in secret. Thus the decision was made to sink and destroy the Liberty which was right off the Gaza coast.

As for the standard white washing offered by Cristol, an avowed Zionist, this belongs next to Gerald Posner's "Case Closed" nonsense.

Here is a solid refutation of Cristol's standard damage control
http://www.rense.com/Datapages/usslib.htm

Posted: **Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:56 pm**

As usual, you can refute nothing, choosing instead the specious analogy that if the Israelis were bad...then the "muzzies" are good? No, Rove Monkey, no one has suggested anything of the kind. The Good Guys in this situation were not Arabs at all, but American servicemen. You seem to neglect the fact that Americans were murdered.

How do you presume to squirm and seeth out of the direct testimony of an officer on board the Liberty that day?

"We feel we've been vindicated," said James Ennes, the Liberty's officer of the deck the day of the attack, which left him severely wounded.

"We've been saying for 37 years that the court of inquiry was a fraud, that it was corrupted, that it ignored evidence and made findings not supported by the evidence," said Ennes, whose book about the incident claims it was a deliberate Israeli attack.

Exactly who are you defending...and why?

Posted: **Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:22 pm**

"Ample evidence"? You provide the ONLY account that excuses the attack as an accident. It was written by an avowed supporter of Israel. He was not in any way involved in the attack.

I have provided actual testimony of the officers on board the Liberty that day.

Again, your pathetic auto-Rove reaction is easily refuted, and once again you are revealed as a ludicrous puppet.

Why do you post? Really.

Posted: **Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:32 pm**

LTS TRN 2 wrote:"Ample evidence"? You provide the ONLY account that excuses the attack as an accident. It was written by an avowed supporter of Israel. He was not in any way involved in the attack.

I have provided actual testimony of the officers on board the Liberty that day.

Again, your pathetic auto-Rove reaction is easily refuted, and once again you are revealed as a ludicrous puppet.

Why do you post? Really.

What the fuck are you talking about? There were TEN investigations:

After ten official US investigations (including five congressional investigations), there was never any evidence that the attack was made with knowledge that the target was a US ship. There is substantial evidence the attack was a tragic mistake caused by blunders of both the US and Israel. Eight US presidents, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush (41), Clinton, and Bush (43), have each accepted the conclusion that the attack was a tragic case of mistaken identity.

Get over yourself. You're a freaking tin hat wearing nutcase.

Posted: **Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:26 pm**

Again, I've provided the actual testimony of the officers on board, including their assertion that indeed a cover-up was maintained. These are the actual witnesses. Try and refute them. The "investigations" haven't. These congressional affairs were on the manner of the 9/11 report, etc. Complete whitewashes.

WAKE THE FUCK UP!!

Posted: **Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:07 am**

Mister Bushice wrote:...a tragic mistake caused by blunders of both the US and Israel.

What fucking gall.

Posted: **Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:18 pm**

FOO has been trying to make this an issue here for a long, long time. Unfortunately for him, no one is buying his BS.

Posted: **Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:07 am**

Remember that day when Israel offered an official diplomatic apology fro murdering 34 U.S. sailors?

Neither do I.

Posted: **Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:11 am**

mvscal wrote: On the Israeli side, some of their units didn't get the word either.

What? They didn't get the word not to machine-gun Liberty's life rafts being lowered into
the water?

Go step in front of a train, you amoeba.

Posted: **Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:35 am**

According to the Jewish Virtual Library, on December 17, 1987, the issue was officially closed by the two governments through an exchange of diplomatic notes. Israel also eventually paid nearly $13 million in humanitarian reparations to the United States and in compensation to the families of the victim

About twenty minutes after the aircraft attack, the ship was approached by three torpedo boats bearing Israeli flags and identification signs. Initially, McGonagle, who perceived that the torpedo boats "were approaching the ship in a torpedo launch attitude," ordered a machine gun to engage the boats. After recognizing the Israeli standard and seeing apparent Morse code signalling attempts by one of the boats (but being unable to see what was being sent, due to the smoke of the fire started by the earlier aircraft attack), McGonagle gave the order to cease fire. This order was apparently misunderstood in the confusion, and two heavy machine guns on the USS Liberty opened fire. One gun was fired accidentally due to exploding ammunition. Subsequently, the Israeli boats responded with fire and launched at least two torpedoes at Liberty (five according to the 1982 IDF History Department report). One hit Liberty on the starboard side forward of the superstructure, creating a large hole in what had been a former cargo hold converted to the ships research spaces, causing the majority of the casualties in the incident. The torpedo boats approached Liberty and strafed crewmen (including damage control parties and sailors preparing life rafts for launch) on deck.

How about shutting up now?

Posted: **Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:11 pm**

The attack lasted for over three hours!

The Israelis knew exactly what the Liberty was. And it was effectively a spy-satellite. It was a surveillance ship that was monitoring the Israeli/Arab fighting. The only reason the Israelis finally stopped attacking was a threatened retaliation by the U.S. In fact (nuke-laden) jets were deployed from a nearby U.S. ship, only to be recalled.

Bush, your paragraph of excuse interestingly omits the fact that the Israelis also attacked the Liberty with NAPALM.

Wake the fuck up, apologist bitch!

Posted: **Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:08 pm**

You forgot to say what you're talking about, Rove Monkey.

Let's see...the liberty WAS attacked for several hours..check....and it WAS attacked with napalm...check......and it WAS a spy ship..check....and jets (with nukes!!) WERE deployed, only to be quickly recalled...check...

It all checks out. The Israelis brutally and knowingly attacked a U.S. ship, and a huge coverup ensued. A hack named Cristol, an avowed Israel supporter, finally offered an "authoritative" account, a total white wash in the manner of Gerald Posner's "Case Closed" concerning the JFK assassination. THIS account by Cristol resulted in the actual witnesses to finally come forth and tell their story.
http://www.rense.com/Datapages/usslib.htm

And really, why should we be surprised at Israel's treachery? Let's look at the Lavon Affair..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:45 am**

Napalm? BWAHAHAHA!! Napalm would have had little effect on a ship at sea. the majority of it would have fallen into the water, and the remainder would have done what? burned steel? killed a handful of on deck crew?

I'm done with the total fucking idiot troll. Go to another forum and spread your idiocy there.

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:43 am**

mvscal wrote:
Was not attacked with napalm.

Read this.

After more than two hours of unremitting assault, the Israelis finally halted their attack. One of the torpedo boats approached the Liberty. An officer asked in English over a bullhorn: "Do you need any help?"

The wounded commander of the Liberty, Lt. William McGonagle, instructed the quartermaster to respond emphatically: "Fuck you."

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:36 am**

Yes, NAPALM

http://www.counterpunch.org/stclair1126.html

Who are you defending...and why?

Posted: **Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:32 am**

Who are you defending...and why?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgCI1ill ... ed&search=

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