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Big12 North has worst gameday coaches in CFB`
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 11:09 pm
by Adelpiero
you can add dennis fran to the list too
fucking horrible gameday coaching and 2nd half adjustments. Callahan made a typical cocky bonehead move going for it on 4th down. Puinkel and his idiot play calling weekly. Mangino, Prince, etc
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 11:37 pm
by King Crimson
Callahan still thinks he's smarter than everyone in CFB since he was in the NFL.
what's his record against top 25 teams again? against teams with a .500 record?
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 11:40 pm
by T REX
Its still better than the big 10 jokefest
Re: Big12 North has worst gameday coaches in CFB`
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:10 am
by Cornhusker
Adelpiero wrote:Callahan made a typical cocky bonehead move going for it on 4th down.
I was sure he was going to try to draw the defense offsides with a hard count and never snap it.
Absurd.
He does piss me off. He feels he has a right of passage with his ego.
I was drop jawed.
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 6:50 am
by Danimal
Gameday coaching isn't important if you recruit well enough
Signed,
Steve "I still say the '03 staff sucked" Pederson
BC has had some shining moments but also his share of WTF moments that often come down to his ego and stubbornness. Dude does know a lot about offense. But while having an in-depth WCO-knowledge can perplex a D and does impress some recruits I'd still rather be running a spread-option scheme that college-kids can actually grasp and execute on a consistent basis.
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:22 am
by War Wagon
Danimal wrote:Gameday coaching isn't important if you recruit well enough
No, it's important no matter how well you recruit.
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:25 am
by buckeye_in_sc
what jokefest REX?
Just because michigan lost? I mean PSU, Sconsin, tOSU etc all won...Michigan is a bad team...remember just a few short years ago when UF was annually going 8-4 with zook and what not...how quickly we forget...
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:37 pm
by Danimal
War Wagon wrote:Danimal wrote:Gameday coaching isn't important if you recruit well enough
No, it's important no matter how well you recruit.
Uh did you see the "signed Steve Pederson" bit I put under the quote you used? I was mocking Neb's AD. Steve used to be recruiting coordinator for a while back when we were better and he is all-about recruiting now. I think he gives himself a lot of credit for the mid-90's national championships.
Of course recruiting is important, gotta have athletes and playmakers to beat the better teams. But I have to question whether in the course of making hires who were ace-recruiters(and old old cronies of BC) we may have sacrificed on coaching. I was one of the folks calling for Solich's head in 02 but was willing to give his revamped staff a shot in 03 and overall they did a good job. They definitely got more out of the talent on-hand than the current staff is doing. While they weren't killer-recruiters they were recruiting pretty well before it became evident Pedey wanted Frank gone. Pedey should've either gotten behind Frank or manned-up and fired him right away and headed straight into a new era. Being a passive-aggressive snake just wasted a year and caused a bunch of coaches to uproot their lives to unknowingly start a job where they had one foot in the grave and the other on loose dirt.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:14 pm
by OUMO
I do not see any reason to knock Mangio at this point. Kansas has taken care of buisness. "so far"
I agree the B12 north is weaker than the south, but not all the coaches are all bad, there are circumstansive situations in the divisions.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:53 pm
by Danimal
I would second the love for Mangino. I think if he'll make things happen if he can get some upper-tier talent to KU. He has had musical-qb's going on for years, maybe Reesing is the guy that will stake a claim and push the program up a level, which could raise recruiting up a level as-well.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:16 pm
by Cuda
Danimal wrote: I was mocking Neb's AD. Steve used to be recruiting coordinator for a while back when we were better and he is all-about recruiting now. I think he gives himself a lot of credit for the mid-90's national championships. .
Is it true he bought his own 7-11 so the players could rob it whenever they wanted and not get arrested for it?
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:45 pm
by War Wagon
Danimal wrote:I would second the love for Mangino. I think if he'll make things happen if he can get some upper-tier talent to KU. He has had musical-qb's going on for years, maybe Reesing is the guy that will stake a claim and push the program up a level, which could raise recruiting up a level as-well.
I laffed.
KU always has been and always will be a hoops first school. They don't give a shit about Football, at least not to the point of going out and landing grade A prospects. Think about it, man. What top flight recruit from in-state wants to go to Kansas? When picking a school, a top notch recruit asks himself one thing. What are my chances of playing at the next level if I go here? If it's KU, the answer is slim and none. They only thing they can get are the leftover scrubs from surrounding states and juco transfers.
I'd take Mangino's gameday coaching over Pinkel, though. But Pinkel can recruit, if for no other reason than
some good players want to go to Mizzou.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:55 pm
by Danimal
I'm not saying KU can become a recruiting-dynamo pulling studs away from OU and Texas but I think there is definite room for improvement if they can make some headway on the field. They could get a little higher level of athlete in-general with a few stud "difference makers". That would get KU up from that .500-team leve they've been at to the 8-4 level that would make them a program to contend with.