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Is this guy Maliki retarded?

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:24 pm
by Mister Bushice
He's got his OWN PEOPLE Killing each other every month at ten times the rate of this one incident, and he calls this a threat to "Sovereignty"?

Hell, if every shadow, every child, every woman on a bike was a potential suicide bomber, I'd be a little fast on the trigger, too.

We really have to get out of this clusterfuck and let them kill themselves off.
NEW YORK - Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said Sunday the shooting deaths of civilians — allegedly at the hands of Blackwater USA guards — and other violence involving the company pose "serious challenges to the sovereignty of Iraq" and cannot be accepted.
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"The Iraqi government is responsible for its citizens and it cannot be accepted for a security company to carry out a killing," he told The Associated Press, speaking in his New York hotel suite ahead of his appearance at the U.N. General Assembly.

Noting that Blackwater has been linked to at least seven incidents involving gunfire on Iraqi civilians, he added: "There are serious challenges to the sovereignty of Iraq." In Arabic, he used the word "tajawiz" which can be translated either as "affronts" or "challenges."

However, Maliki left open the possibility that Iraq and the United States would work toward a solution to the problem of Blackwater. "We have coordinated with the American side to establish a joint committee to ascertain the facts and hold accountable" those responsible, he said.

In the interview, Maliki defended his government and spoke up for the rights of Iraqis to manage their own affairs. He said that his country is making progress toward political reconciliation and that 2008 would be a year of political and economic progress and reconstruction for Iraq.

Speaking in a calm voice, al-Maliki was dismissive of some of the criticism directed at him by Washington politicians in recent months. Some members of Congress have said al-Maliki is not forceful enough in pressing for political reconciliation and achieving benchmarks meant to measure progress in the four-year U.S. intervention in Iraq.

Maliki said it is normal for any government to be criticized, but he feels certain that he has the backing in Washington he needs.

"What is important is that it did not come from the American administration or President Bush," he said of his critics. "That it comes from other areas ... for other reasons, is not a concern of mine. ... It means nothing for me," he said.

The Sept. 16 killing of at least 11 civilians near a square in central Baghdad has highlighted the practices of foreign security contractors whose aggressive protection of Western diplomats and other dignitaries has long angered Iraqis.

U.S.-Iraqi relations have been further strained by the U.S. detention of an Iranian Thursday in northern Iraq who was accused by the military of smuggling weapons to Shiite militias for use against American troops.

Al-Maliki condemned the detention and said it was his understanding that the man had been invited to Iraq.

"The government of Iraq is an elected one and sovereign. When it gives a visa, it is responsible for the visa," he said. "We consider the arrest ... of this individual who holds an Iraqi visa and a (valid) passport to be unacceptable."

Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, a Kurd, demanded the Iranian's release on Saturday, saying he was a member of an official delegation that was in the autonomous Kurdish city of Sulaimaniyah with the full knowledge of the Iraqi government and local authorities.

Military spokesman Rear Adm. Mark Fox, however, said the Iranian was posing as a businessman but was actually a member of the elite Quds force of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards who was smuggling armor-piercing explosively formed penetrators known as EFPs into Iraq.

Underscoring the dangers, the military said an American soldier was killed Saturday and another wounded when an EFP hit their patrol in eastern Baghdad.

The U.S. administration is scrambling to quell Iraqi anger over the Sept. 16 shooting in Nisoor Square, in which Blackwater guards protecting a State Department convoy allegedly opened fire on Iraqis. The Moyock, N.C.-based company says its contractors were responding to an armed attack. Iraqi officials and witnesses say the shooting was unprovoked, although they have offered conflicting details.

The Interior Ministry banned Blackwater from operating in Iraq, but rolled back after the U.S. agreed to the joint investigation. The company resumed guarding a reduced number of American convoys on Friday.

But Iraqi officials said new rules have to be put in place to govern the behavior of the security companies.

"If we expel this company immediately there will be a security vacuum that will demand pulling some troops off the battlefield," Tahseen Sheikhly, a civilian spokesman for the seven-month-old offensive against militants in Baghdad and surrounding areas. "This will create a security imbalance in securing Baghdad."

The Iraqi Interior Ministry complained that U.S. authorities ignored repeated complaints about past Blackwater behavior as the company was implicated in six other fatal shootings, including one on Feb. 7 outside Iraqi state television in Baghdad that killed three building guards.

"Our complaints went nowhere," deputy Interior Minister Hussein Kamal said.

U.S. Embassy spokeswoman Mirembe Nantongo said the Americans asked the Iraqis to share any reports on Blackwater's behavior.

"We have no official documentation on file from our Iraqi partners requesting clarification of any incident, but we're open to sharing relevant findings from our past investigations," she said.

It is doubtful that foreign security contractors could be prosecuted under Iraqi law. A directive issued by U.S. occupation authorities in 2004 granted contractors, American troops and many other foreign officials immunity from prosecution under Iraqi law. Security contractors also are not subject to U.S. military law under which U.S. troopers face prosecution for killing or abusing Iraqis.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070923/ap_ ... _interview

Re: Is this guy Maliki retarded?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:03 am
by Dr_Phibes
Mister Bushice wrote:He's got his OWN PEOPLE Killing each other every month at ten times the rate of this one incident, and he calls this a threat to "Sovereignty"?
Not quite sure what else you expect him to do. Outside the world of the political press, he has no power in any sense of the word. Firing off memos is about it.

Re: Is this guy Maliki retarded?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:47 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Dr_Phibes wrote: Firing off memos is about it.
Yeah but they're razor sharp, anti-tank, cluster memos being smuggled in from Iran!

Iranian EWM's (explosively worded memos).

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:05 pm
by Cuda
mvscal wrote:I can see his point. These Blackwater dipshits aren't accountable to anybody.
Yeah, least of all M. al-Sadr, whose militiamen are getting the raw horse fuck kicked out of them by Blackwater's "dipshits"- who happen to be made up almost entirely of former navy seals & army special forces (sorry, mvsged, one-hitch, ex-pfc's need not apply)

Why all the trendy hate for Blackwater? Maybe because they're behaving as if they're actually in a war zone? Maybe because they're æffective?
It's a simple fix, though. Just place them under Iraqi jurisdiction.
The "simple-fix" is to off both al-Sadr and his cock puppet, al-Maliki.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:46 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
Mister Bushice wrote:We really have to get out of this clusterfuck and let them kill themselves off.
Rack.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:16 pm
by Cuda
Terry in Crapchester wrote:
Mister Bushice wrote:We really have to get out of this clusterfuck and let them kill themselves off.
Rack.
That's not something we want to leave to chance. We need to make that a fucking certainty.

It's also something we don't want to have isolated just to Iraq- We want the sunnis & shiites all over the world to slaughter each other. Then we can reduce the winner to the point that the few remaining muzzies will be so fucking glad to be alive, they won't dare fuck things up ever again by starting shit.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:15 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Cuda wrote:(sorry, mvsged, one-hitch, ex-pfc's need not apply)

Damn, Cudes...

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:41 am
by LTS TRN 2
Cuda wrote: Why all the trendy hate for Blackwater? Maybe because they're behaving as if they're actually in a war zone? Maybe because they're æffective?
Prick, wake up, you're dribbling your cream corn again. Listen: Blackwater is paid by the government just like the army. What we're witnessing is the transformation of a bloated overrated war empire fantasy into a lean mean fascist fightin' machine. No Rules, No Accountability, No budget restrictions at all!

Let's hang some more from a bridge, eh? After all, they're marauding mercenary murderers, trigger-happy goons shooting anything that moves. They're basically SS troops "wilding" in some distant terrorized nation. Led by a hardcore Christer. (Hell is your head, baby)

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:05 pm
by Cuda
So the trendy hate IS because they're acting like they're in a war zone and because they're aeffective.

Just as I thought.

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:18 pm
by Cuda
One-Hitch, Ex-PFC wrote:
Cuda wrote:Why all the trendy hate for Blackwater?
Because they're dangerously incompetant fuck ups whose chickenshit antics are making the job more difficult for real soliders and Marines..
Yeah, ex-Navy Seals, ex-Green Berets & ex-SAS have no fucking idea at all how to act in a war zone. :meds:

STFU. moron

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:51 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
They're helping you fight this war "on the cheap".

Otherwise U.S. taxpayers would be footing the bill for an increase in troops, am I right?

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:53 pm
by Cuda
mvscal wrote:
Cuda wrote:Yeah, ex-Navy Seals, ex-Green Berets & ex-SAS have no fucking idea at all how to act in a war zone.
Obviously they don't or we wouldn't be having this discussion.
The only thing that's obvious is that you're talking out your ass. We're having this "discussion" because Blackwater is a little too aeffective protecting our diplomats for al-Sadr & and his cock-warmer, al-Maliki's liking, and for no other reason.
This isn't the first time these half-assed fuckwits have caused problems for us. I've been hearing complaints about these assholes for years.

Gee, you must have had a real purty mouth for your old platoon mates to keep in touch with you after what... 16- 17 years since you fled the military?

It's time for the Iraqis to have another bridge top BBQ.
If you mean it's time the Iraqis GOT bbq'd, then yeah.

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:53 pm
by Mister Bushice
Cuda wrote:
One-Hitch, Ex-PFC wrote:
Cuda wrote:Why all the trendy hate for Blackwater?
Because they're dangerously incompetant fuck ups whose chickenshit antics are making the job more difficult for real soliders and Marines..
Yeah, ex-Navy Seals, ex-Green Berets & ex-SAS have no fucking idea at all how to act in a war zone. :meds:

STFU. moron
They're essentially mercenaries. Soldiers for hire. They think they live above the rules. They don't answer to the military anymore. It's no surprise they run into trouble.

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:26 pm
by Mikey
I just wish 'Cudes would maeke up his mind whether the private army is affective or effective. Reading his bullshit is making me aenxious.


BTW...I don't think that an affective army is necessarily a good thing.

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:04 pm
by Cuda
Laptop keyboard won't let me type æ. I need a full size keyboard for that.
One-Hitch Ex-PFC wrote: Duck, Duck, Dodge, lather, rinse, repeat... etc, etc...
Go peddle your " I spent 2 years in the army 17 years ago so my military expertise is not to be questioned" bullshit somewhere else, Lee-Harvey

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:24 pm
by Mikey
And æffective isn't a word in the English language either. You trying to show how "smart" you are or something?
Isn't it Dimsdale who uses that ligature to show off? Now there's a real icon for you to aspire to.

This guy might be your affective fighting hero...

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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:37 pm
by Mister Bushice
LEAVE CUDA ALONE RIGHT NOW! ~sob

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:01 pm
by Cuda
two-errr, FOUR & GET THE FUCK OUT wrote:
Actually it was four years and I was a corporal, so try and get it straight.
Oh, well, that makes ALL the difference in he world! You ARE a military expert, aren't you? How the fuck did the army get along without you?
Oh and, yes, you are in no position to question my military experience, bean bag.
Bullshit.

When I was 8, I had EVERY issue of

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Which, even after more than 40 years, still gives me military bode over a fucking ex-corporal.

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:32 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Stop it you two.

Cuda makes good points, but being a fellow vet, I kinda got mv's back.

Tough call.

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:16 pm
by upstart
Cuda wrote:
mvscal wrote:I can see his point. These Blackwater dipshits aren't accountable to anybody.
Yeah, least of all M. al-Sadr, whose militiamen are getting the raw horse fuck kicked out of them by Blackwater's "dipshits"- who happen to be made up almost entirely of former navy seals & army special forces (sorry, mvsged, one-hitch, ex-pfc's need not apply)

Why all the trendy hate for Blackwater? Maybe because they're behaving as if they're actually in a war zone? Maybe because they're æffective?
It's a simple fix, though. Just place them under Iraqi jurisdiction.
The "simple-fix" is to off both al-Sadr and his cock puppet, al-Maliki.
Rack this post

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:32 am
by Dr_Phibes
Cuda wrote: Yeah, ex-Navy Seals, ex-Green Berets & ex-SAS have no fucking idea at all how to act in a war zone. :meds:

STFU. moron
I think you have a slightly romantic view of their role. Less 'Dogs of War' and more 'Dogs of Laundry'. When people get a little too obsessed with their kit and start blasting away at civilians for shits and giggles you've got a slight problem with professionalism/discipline, yeah?

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:02 am
by Cuda
mvscal wrote: No doubt the years of masturbating to comic books explains your cartoonish viewpoint on the effective application of military force.
I'll offer you a deal: You quit playing the "what the fuck do you know about the military" card, and I won't play the "what the fuck do you know about getting laid" card, OK?

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:47 pm
by Cuda
An ex-corporal going to the "I laughed" card?

I call bullshit.

You're easily the most humorless fuckpuddle on the entire internets.

You know why they made you a corporal, don't you? To entice you to re-up for a second 2 year hitch. You didn't laugh then either, because you didn't get the joke (it was on you, btw). Here's a hint: when they said you'd think you were a Jewish Holiday when you got your next promotion, it wasn't a compliment. Although if you'd have stayed in, you'd surely have made E-5 by now.

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:59 pm
by Goober McTuber
I don’t know about Maliki, but this Cooter fellow is definitely retarded. Like him or hate him, mvscal is one of the funnier posters I’ve seen over numerous boards. Especially when he’s lighting up a tard dumbfuck like Cooter.

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:10 pm
by Mikey
I laughed.

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:55 pm
by Cuda
Mikey wrote:I laughed.
Of course you did, you're a dumbfuck

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:07 pm
by Mikey
And you're an affective little emo.