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Would "world opinion" allow us to charge $70... $80... $100 a barrel for it?

Or would there be some international outcry to Take The Fucking Oil Away From Us For The Good Of The World?

Wouldn't there, at the very least, be the overwhelming & incessant international demand that we NOT charge so fucking much for it, and/or that we use those immense profits for the Common Good?


So why do the fucking Camel Jockeys get a free pass?

Oh, rght... they're not Ameicans, that's why.

It's about time for a serious international discussion about taking the fucking OIL and thefucking OIL MONEY away from the goddam Sand Ni99ers- ...for the Common Good, or course!

Arabs aren't the only ones with oil. They don't even have "most" of it.

Don’t go fucking up a perfectly useless Cooter rant with facts.

Martyred wrote:Arabs aren't the only ones with oil. They don't even have "most" of it.

They DO have a MONOPOLY, however.


You miss the point, as usualm

What if the USA had the same monopoly on oil as the Dune Coons have?

Except the Dunies are in the process of fucking up bigtime... they've now breeched that magical number where it now becomes economically viable to start sucking the hydrocarbons out of that state you live in, Coods.

And once that ball gets to rolling, and the free market(not that our country believes in that any more) reduces the cost of processing, we will once again be unable to locate any middle eastern countries on the map.

What I'm saying is the Dunies have breeched that magical number where it now becomes economically viable to start thinking about taking the fucking oil and the fucking oil money the fuck away from them by force.

So you will use military force, to take the oil from the Arabs...

...whereupon it will be distributed to the American citizens at a greatly reduced rate....


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You really don't understand the way things work, do you?




You utopian fucking nincompoop.

Martyred wrote:So you will use military force, to take the oil from the Arabs...

...whereupon it will be distributed to the Americans FREE and the rest of the world's citizens at a greatly reduced rate....

FTFY

You utopian fucking nincompoop.

Irony much?

Russia has more oil than Saudi Arabia, so don't go blathering about an Arab monopoly. The price is set by supply and demand. Nobody's getting a "free pass".

The OPEC price is set by OPEC. And that price is pretty much dictated by supply and demand. The only real control they have is to pump more or less oil.

Russia and the US, BTW were #2 and #3 in oil production in 2006, and neither is an OPEC country. China was #5 and Canada was #7.

Mikey wrote:Russia has more oil than Saudi Arabia, so don't go blathering about an Arab monopoly. The price is set by supply and demand. Nobody's getting a "free pass".

actually i'd be pretty wary on the figures OPEC puts out on how much oil is in it's reserves. less supply equals higher price.

Mikey wrote:The OPEC price is set by OPEC. And that price is pretty much dictated by supply and demand. The only real control they have is to pump more or less oil.

Russia and the US, BTW were #2 and #3 in oil production in 2006, and neither is an OPEC country. China was #5 and Canada was #7.

it is all a matter of scale. The Arabs exercise an undue influence because their populations use a very small percentage of their total oil output. Whereas the US, despite being #3 in oil production, cannot even begin to meet its own demand with its current levels of production. Therefore, the OPEC countries can subsidize their internal pricing (placating their own political base) and use the remaining production to leverage larger industrialized countries. Which they have done very successfully for the past 35 years. Of course were we to stop using as much oil, their influence over worldwide pricing would decrease proportionately.

mvscal wrote:We're not going to stop using as much oil, dumbshit. You might as well ask people not to breathe as much. It isn't going to happen now or ever. We are going to continue using the cheapest source of energy available.

Get used to it.

So oil is not a finite resource?

Dream on.

mvscal wrote:Finite? Probably not. Certainly we are in no danger of running out anytime soon. We've also got shitloads of coal, so you might want to start thinking about diesel from coal liquefaction as an eventual replacement for OPEC. That ought to hold us for a couple centuries.

FTFY.

We should have been working on that and many other projects with a Manhattan Project/Apollo like determination. The sooner we take away oil money from the Middle East, the sooner we can eliminate caring about that shithole.

Then we would be money ahead to spend the half trillion dollars a year we're wasting in Iraq on subsidizing American coal liquefaction projects and any necessary conversion process. The economic c ollapse of OPEC should be a foreign policy imperative.

Has everyone in this thread lost their fucking minds?

Aside from your average Joe LunchBucket, who the fuck wants $20 per barrel oil?

HINT: Joe LunchBucket has no say in the matter.

I'll take $20 per barrel microbrew thanks.

Ah yes. Beer. The real fuel of men.

rack the thought, Mikey.

Then we would be money ahead to spend the half trillion dollars a year we're wasting in Iraq on subsidizing American coal liquefaction projects and any necessary conversion process. The economic c ollapse of OPEC should be a foreign policy imperative.

Apparently you're forgetting that we have a president who most likely thinks coal is only good for putting in the christmas stockings of bad kids and to make the choo choo train go puff puff, whoo, whoo, chugga chugga, chugga chugga.

mvscal wrote:Everybody but environmental wingnuts and freaked out Luddites.

Which one of those describes the Russians?

Since no one is enjoying the high price of crude anywhere near as much as the Russians, who appreciate the price spike, since it's been quite the boon to their military buildup of late.

I was about to tear mvscal a new a-hole...

mvscal wrote:Sorry, I was only counting humans. That would exclude Soviets err Russians

But he pretty much headed off my rebuttal at the pass.

BSmack wrote:
We should have been working on that and many other projects with a Manhattan Project/Apollo like determination.

Nuking their ass & taking their gas would be a lot cheaper and can be done with existing technology

The sooner we take away oil money from the Middle East, the sooner we can eliminate caring about that shithole.

Nuking their ass & taking their money away can be accomplished in like 20 minutes. That soon enough?

Yeah, Big Oil hates high priced barrels of oil.

Those poor oil execs, risking hernias carrying all that cash to the bank.

:cry:


I'm bailing out now. Let me know when you all return from your fantasies.

Oh? I thought you despised Big Oil, Marty Red.

You, of all people should want $20 oil in that case.

I remember when I filled up my '57 Ford at Goober's gas station for 25¢ a gallon. Must be those oil barons were broke in those days. At least I can't remember anyone feeling sorry for them.

Cuda wrote:Oh? I thought you despised Big Oil, Marty Red.

You, of all people should want $20 oil in that case.

You and I have no say in the matter. At the polls or otherwise.

Does it hurt you coming to that realization?

Are you that much of a fucking dummy to believe in imbecilic Robin Hood delusions?
You government is not "liberating" oil so you can top off your tank for less, moron.

Martyred wrote: Are you that much of a fucking dummy to believe in imbecilic Robin Hood delusions?

You're the Socialist, not me.

I just want to take the oil & oil money away from the sand ni-g-g-ers; preferably by force

Standing Armies = Socialism

Redistribution of Wealth = Socialism

"Great" Works = Socialism


Welcome aboard, comrade.

mvscal wrote:

Martyred wrote:Standing Armies = Socialism

Wrong

I'm right, you ass.

Martyred wrote:Standing Armies = Socialism

post hoc, ergo propter hoc

Redistribution of Wealth = Socialism

I'm not talking about redistributing the Sand Ni-g-g-er's oil money, I'm talking about just taking it outright. We could, for instance, close the budget defecit and pay off the National Debt

"Great Society" = Socialism

FTFY

mvscal wrote:National defense is not a socialist concept any more than breathing is.

How is the army funded?

Now, kindly shut your yapper.

Martyred wrote:

mvscal wrote:National defense is not a socialist concept any more than breathing is.

How is the army funded?

Now, kindly shut your yapper.

If you would kindly insert the word National in front of Socialist, I'm sure our neocon friends would feel much more comfortable.

Cuda wrote:
I'm not talking about redistributing the Sand Ni-g-g-er's oil money,

I'm talking about redistributing it amongst yourselves, Boris.

You're a commie through and through. You're making Phibes' heart melt.

mvscal wrote: No surprise to see a Socialist doesn't even know what the fuck socialism is.

I know what a dope who's deeply in denial is.

You're no different than any of the other state-worshipping dolts in this forum.
Go give Big Government a hug, faggot.

Martyred wrote: You're a commie through and through. You're making Phibes' heart melt.

So, how's the ELN doing?



I heard they packed it in. Just a rumour, mind.

Dr_Phibes wrote:

Martyred wrote:

mvscal wrote: No surprise to see a Socialist doesn't even know what the fuck socialism is.

I know what a dope who's deeply in denial is.

You're no different than any of the other state-worshipping dolts in this forum.
Go give Big Government a hug, faggot.

This just makes no sense at all, Marty Red.

YOU're a state-worshipper, which goes hand in hand with faggots & big gubmint.

Is it because you're secretly a self-loathing jew?

Cuda wrote:
YOU're a state-worshipper...

Do you ever read anything I ever type? Ever?


Oh yeah, you're the dullard who's waiting for Bush to steal Arab oil and give it to you at cut-rate prices.



Dummy.

Commies are, by definiion, state-worshippers.

Or are you now renouncing your beloved socialism?

Cuda wrote:Commies are, by definiion, state-worshippers.

Or are you now renouncing your beloved socialism?

I don't renounce socialism, and for the record, I'm an Anarcho-Syndicalist.

Martyred wrote:
I don't renounce socialism, and for the record, I'm an Anarcho-Syndicalist.

Translation: Bolshevist.

You're still a State-Worshipper