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Chad Johnson's act is old. Thoughts on the Bengals

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:23 pm
by Yer a Fuckin Jerkoff
Marvin Lewis has lost the team and threw them under the bus last night, calling them selfish pricks. He's right. But Lewis should be fired too. He isn't a good head coach.

As far as Chad Johnson goes, I know Romie always says he's a great guy and a team player, but he's a me-me selfish dicknose who cares more about touchdown dances than his team's record. He almost cried after not scoring last night on that long pass play because he probably had some dumbass dance planned for Prime Time. He should have jumped up and been excited to get the Bengals in scoring position for a Rudi Johnson td run but that wasn't important to him. What was important to him was his opportunity to wave his dick in front of the national audience after a td. Fuck Chad Johnson. Carson Palmer is probably getting sick of him too. The Bengals are fucked straight up the asspipe this year.

Re: Chad Johnson's act is old. Thoughts on the Bengals

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:24 pm
by Felix
Yer a Fuckin Jerkoff wrote: Fuck Chad Johnson.
thing is, Johnson isn't their most valuable receiver if one considers the numbers that Houshyourmamma is putting up......

but you've got to admit, that was a pretty nifty catch he made last night....

not a lot of receivers could have made that catch, and he made it look easy......

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:34 pm
by BSmack
The Bungles are a team in serious trouble regardless of Chad Johnson's issues. I'm looking forward to Willie Parker hanging 250 yards on that defense in week 8.

Re: Chad Johnson's act is old. Thoughts on the Bengals

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:28 pm
by peter dragon
Yer a Fuckin Jerkoff wrote:He should have jumped up and been excited to get the Bengals in scoring position for a Rudi Johnson td run but that wasn't important to him.
:meds: :meds: :meds: :meds: :meds: :meds: :meds: :meds:

Re: Chad Johnson's act is old. Thoughts on the Bengals

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:55 am
by poptart
Yer a Fuckin Jerkoff wrote:As far as Chad Johnson goes, I know Romie always says he's a great guy and a team player, but he's a me-me selfish dicknose who cares more about touchdown dances than his team's record.
Of course he is.

Always has been.

He conned a lot of people, and some in here, into thinking he was somehow fresh, cute, and interesting.


He's a Fuckin Jerkoff.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:51 pm
by RevLimiter
Chad Johnson is everything the NFL SHOULD BE, and he backs up his actions by putting up numbers every single year.

Fuck the haters.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:15 pm
by BSmack
RevLimiter wrote:Chad Johnson is everything the NFL SHOULD BE, and he backs up his actions by putting up numbers every single year.

Fuck the haters.
Chad Johnson isn't even the best receiver on his own team. In fact, were Chris Henry not a perpetual thug, he wouldn't even be the second best receiver on the Bengals. He's a good possession receiver who has managed to convince idiots like you that he's a gamebreaker.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:33 pm
by Dinsdale
BSmack wrote:Chad Johnson isn't even the best receiver on his own team.

2007:

Chad Johnson -- 28 receptions, 495 yards, 123.8 yards per game, 17.7 average per,3.8 yards after catch, 27 for first downs, 0 fumbles

TJ Whosyourmamma -- 39 receptions, 360 yards, 90 per game, 9.2 per, 1.7 after catch, 20 first downs, 1 fumble

Beaverdouche2 does have a couple of more TDs.


2006:

CJ -- 87 catches, 1369 yards (led NFL), 85.6 per game (led NFL), 15.7 average, 3.8YAC, 66 first downs, 1 fumble lost

TJ -- 90 catches, 1081 yards(albeit missing 2 games), 77.2 per game, 12.0 average, 3.8YAC, 58 first downs, 0 fumbles, and again a couple more TDs than CJ


2005:


CJ -- 97 catches, 1432 yards, 89.5 per, 14.8 avg, 3.5 YAC, 74 first downs, 0 fumbles lost

TJ -- 78 catches, 956 yards, 68.3 per game, 12.3 avg, 4.1 YAC, 52 first downs, 1 fumble lost



Need 2004? They're about equally lopsided as 2005-2007.

Wanna go back to the Oregon State days?




Must have been part of that massive football knowledge that you left in the toilet.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:24 pm
by BSmack
Dinsdale wrote:Must have been part of that massive football knowledge that you left in the toilet.
Gamebreakers have more than one season in 7 with double digit TD totals. Gamebreakers have more than 44 TDs after 7 years in the league.

I'll give you that Johnson is good to heave the ball up to between the 20's every once in a while. But right now, it is obvious that Ocho is Option Duex when the Bungles are in the red zone. That blown route Monday night should have told you something. I'm sure it said something to Palmer.

Oh, and here's another stat to chew on. Houshyourmomma averages 15.3 targets per game to Ocho's 12.5.

Going forward, TJ's star is on the rise and Johnson's is starting to loose it's luster. But hey, feel free to cite some more old stats. Ther're VERY relevant. :meds:

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:36 pm
by Goober McTuber
Neither one of them is a game-breaker, but between the two it looks like Johnson’s the better receiver.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:42 pm
by RumpleForeskin
Does anyone remember what Johnson did to Champ Bailey a couple of years ago on primetime? For Bailey being known as "shutdown corner", Ocho Cinco sure did pwn him that entire game. He is still one of the best receivers in the game.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:43 pm
by Shine
BSmack wrote: Gamebreakers have more than one season in 7 with double digit TD totals. Gamebreakers have more than 44 TDs after 7 years in the league.

I'll give you that Johnson is good to heave the ball up to between the 20's every once in a while. But right now, it is obvious that Ocho is Option Duex when the Bungles are in the red zone. That blown route Monday night should have told you something. I'm sure it said something to Palmer.

Oh, and here's another stat to chew on. Houshyourmomma averages 15.3 targets per game to Ocho's 12.5.

Going forward, TJ's star is on the rise and Johnson's is starting to loose it's luster. But hey, feel free to cite some more old stats. Ther're VERY relevant. :meds:
Well TJ has zero seasons in 7 with double digit TD totals. After 7 years in the leage he has 26 TDs. TJ has led the AFC in receiving yards as many times as I have to the 4 that CJ has.

Nice stat by the way, TJ is targeted more often and produces lower numbers than CJ. Way to hammer home your point.

Not to mention the 3 game stretch last year where CJ put up the highest totals since the merger.

But hey, feel free to ignore the actual production of each guy and hold firm to your feelings on the matter. They're VERY relevant.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:50 pm
by Neely8
So are you ok with all the shenanigans then Bungle fan? He did actually go over and talk to Belichick in the middle of the game. You cool with that??

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:58 pm
by BSmack
Shine wrote:Well TJ has zero seasons in 7 with double digit TD totals. After 7 years in the leage he has 26 TDs. TJ has led the AFC in receiving yards as many times as I have to the 4 that CJ has.

Nice stat by the way, TJ is targeted more often and produces lower numbers than CJ. Way to hammer home your point.

Not to mention the 3 game stretch last year where CJ put up the highest totals since the merger.

But hey, feel free to ignore the actual production of each guy and hold firm to your feelings on the matter. They're VERY relevant.
I simply said that THIS YEAR, TJ is the better all around receiver. He's the guy Palmer is going to both in the end zone and when the Bungles need to move the chains. I never said 85 wasn't good, just that he's fading in comparison to TJ. And he's really going to start fading if Chris Henry can stay the fuck out of jail. Because then there will be a younger and faster version of 85 on the field.

But hey, feel free to be distracted by stats that are grossly inflated thanks to one monster game against the Browns. It's kinda what 85 is known for. You know, like last year when he fattened up his stats for 3 weeks in the middle of the season and then laid a fucking goose egg when his team needed him the most during their last 3 games (all loses) when just one more win would have put your shit franchise (thanks UCant) into the playoffs.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:18 pm
by Dinsdale
BSmack wrote:I simply said that THIS YEAR, TJ is the better all around receiver. He's the guy Palmer is going to ... when the Bungles need to move the chains.

Uhm.... hello?

First downs:

CJ -- 27

TJ -- 20


Hello?



http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr.php

Try that stat on for size. The "replaceability factor" tends to not agree with you. Then again, neither does anyone else.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:38 pm
by BSmack
Dinsdale wrote:http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr.php

Try that stat on for size. The "replaceability factor" tends to not agree with you.
The "replaceability factor"?

Even the people who publish that stat admitt that it doesn't mean much, if anything. Santonio Holmes is more irreplaceable than Hines Ward? Give me a fucking break. Take Hushmanwhatever out of there and it is ALL on CJ to run his routes correctly just to have a fucking chance to put up numbers.
Then again, neither does anyone else.
Swimming against the tide isn't necessarily a bad thing when it comes to handicapping football. Tell me you knew?

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:44 pm
by RevLimiter
Dinsdale wrote:
BSmack wrote:Chad Johnson isn't even the best receiver on his own team.

2007:

Chad Johnson -- 28 receptions, 495 yards, 123.8 yards per game, 17.7 average per,3.8 yards after catch, 27 for first downs, 0 fumbles

TJ Whosyourmamma -- 39 receptions, 360 yards, 90 per game, 9.2 per, 1.7 after catch, 20 first downs, 1 fumble

Beaverdouche2 does have a couple of more TDs.


2006:

CJ -- 87 catches, 1369 yards (led NFL), 85.6 per game (led NFL), 15.7 average, 3.8YAC, 66 first downs, 1 fumble lost

TJ -- 90 catches, 1081 yards(albeit missing 2 games), 77.2 per game, 12.0 average, 3.8YAC, 58 first downs, 0 fumbles, and again a couple more TDs than CJ


2005:


CJ -- 97 catches, 1432 yards, 89.5 per, 14.8 avg, 3.5 YAC, 74 first downs, 0 fumbles lost

TJ -- 78 catches, 956 yards, 68.3 per game, 12.3 avg, 4.1 YAC, 52 first downs, 1 fumble lost



Need 2004? They're about equally lopsided as 2005-2007.

Wanna go back to the Oregon State days?




Must have been part of that massive football knowledge that you left in the toilet.
RACK.

Everything BitchSmacked posted after that blast was proven null and void. Unless, of course, he wants to continue kicking and screaming like a little girl who didn't get her lollypop.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:46 pm
by BSmack
RevLimiter wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:Must have been part of that massive football knowledge that you left in the toilet.
RACK.

Everything BitchSmacked posted after that blast was proven null and void. Unless, of course, he wants to continue kicking and screaming like a little girl who didn't get her lollypop.
Well Dins, Paul agrees with you.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:00 pm
by Goober McTuber
BSmack wrote:
RevLimiter wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:Must have been part of that massive football knowledge that you left in the toilet.
RACK.

Everything BitchSmacked posted after that blast was proven null and void. Unless, of course, he wants to continue kicking and screaming like a little girl who didn't get her lollypop.
Well Dins, Paul agrees with you.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Something about blind pigs and acorns comes to mind.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:03 pm
by RevLimiter
mvscal wrote:Why would you assume that Tubby wrote that take in the first place?
Doesn't matter if I did or not, dickhead- it still applies.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:03 pm
by RevLimiter
Goober McTuber wrote:
BSmack wrote:
RevLimiter wrote: RACK.

Everything BitchSmacked posted after that blast was proven null and void. Unless, of course, he wants to continue kicking and screaming like a little girl who didn't get her lollypop.
Well Dins, Paul agrees with you.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Something about blind pigs and acorns comes to mind.
Proof that you'll NEVER be successful with the opposite sex.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:23 pm
by Dinsdale
BSmack wrote:I never said 85 wasn't good, just that he's fading in comparison to TJ.

2002:

CJ -- 1166 yds 16.9 avg

TJ -- 492, 12.0 avg


2003:

CJ -- 1355, 15.1 avg

TJ -- 0, 0.0 avg


2004:

CJ -- 1274, 13.4avg

TJ -- 978, 13.4 avg

2005:

CJ -- 1432, 14.8 avg

TJ -- 956, 12.3 avg

2006:


CJ -- 1369, 13.7 avg

TJ -- 1081, 12.0 avg

2007:

CJ -- 495, 17.7

TJ -- 360, 9.2 avg



The gap between the two would appear to be widening (remember, we're going off THIS YEAR... your rule and all) between the two, based on the previous couple of years since TJ came back from his injury.


Your extrapolation skills are about as sharp as... all of your other "skills."

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:27 pm
by DallasFanatic
And the beat goes on....................the beat goes on

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:01 pm
by Goober McTuber
RevLimiter wrote:Proof that you'll NEVER be successful with the opposite sex.
Proof that you’ll never post an intelligent, coherent take without outside help. When I was single, I had more success with the opposite sex in any given week that you had your entire life, until that blind pig came bouncing along and wrapped her stubby little fingers around that acorn.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:34 am
by War Wagon
RevLimiter wrote:Chad Johnson is everything the NFL SHOULD BE...
Nothing quite compares to you expounding on what "SHOULD BE".

Hell. why didn't throw a "PERIOD" in there for good measure while you were at it?

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:54 am
by RevLimiter
Are you offering to write my posts FOR me now, Wags?

You clearly wouldn't be the 1st one (sup Benedict Scott). :meds:

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:03 am
by poptart
Of ALL the players one could point to as being the epitome of what the NFL should be, Paul points out Chad Johnson.

How 'bout pointing out someone who has overcome adversity -- injury, circumstance, or otherwise -- to show himself well, while conducting himself with grace and humility?

There are a number of those examples.

And yet you point out a loudmouth egomaniacal MEguy as being what the NFL should be.

Maybe if you're 11 yrs old.


Ponderous.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:08 am
by RevLimiter
SHOCKING that you miss the point, Pops....allow me to spell it out for you.

CJ tries to bring FUN to the game, plain and simple. He doesn't try to show up opponents, and his play proves that he doesn't disrespect the game on the field. Sorry, but I just don't see anything wrong with that. The No Fun League needs to loosen up a little bit.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:33 pm
by Headhunter
Seeing Brett Favre jump into Jennings arms after breaking Marino's record... THAT was fun. seeing Romo run after a missed snap for 30 yards, then break it back for a four yard gain... THAT was fun. seeing him score the touchdown, place the ball on the ground, pump his fist in the air with childlike exuberance... THAT was fun.

Seeing CJ spend five fucking minutes to proclaim himself a future hall of famer... THAT was punk. He doesn't disrespect the game, but he's a classless douche.

See, I guess I'm a no fun kind of guy. I derive my enjoyment from watching the competition on the field. Not a competition in the end zone to see who can look like the biggest braying jackass.

I cringe every time T.O. scores wondering if he's going to be a dick dribble. I don't lean towards the end of my seat wondering what he's going to do to give me enjoyment. He just fucking did it. See, I like seeing the scoreboard light up, not stupid fucking selfish displays of "look-at-me". Do a little dance. Bust out the icky shuffle. Do the California quake. Cool. Not an issue. Don a jacket, break out a celly or a sharpie and you're being a douchenozzle.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:17 pm
by Shine
Neely8 wrote:So are you ok with all the shenanigans then Bungle fan? He did actually go over and talk to Belichick in the middle of the game. You cool with that??
I'm okay with the vast majority of CJ's shenanigans. Him talking to coach camcorder is one instance where I wasn't cool with it. On the bright side many people weren't cool with it either, including CJ's JUCO coach and mentor who ripped into him for that stunt. But for the most part what CJ does is either simply in the spirit of having fun or to motivate himself. He knows that when he puts the spotlight on him he better produce or else he'll hear about it. And he's a very professional player and understands the dynamics of the game. After his HOF jacket stunt he acknowledged that without a SB ring all his numbers won't mean squat and he won't ever be putting on a legit HOF jacket.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:33 pm
by ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2
Shine wrote:I'm okay with the vast majority of CJ's shenanigans. Him talking to coach camcorder is one instance where I wasn't cool with it. On the bright side many people weren't cool with it either, including CJ's JUCO coach and mentor who ripped into him for that stunt.
Belichick thinks very highly of Johnson. He spoke glowingly of him before last year's game and I guess they also had some man-love bonding during last year's Pro Bowl. I am fairly certain he's the only player in the NFL who the coach calls by his first name, including his own players. It's always, "Brady" or "Bruschi" or whoever. I usually despise players who call attention to themselves, but it's different with # 85. I do NOT believe he does what he does because he's full of himself. I think he just likes talking smack and genuinely wants to make people laugh. He always does his ridiculous antics with a smile on his face. I honestly believe he just loves the game. Bottom line... I'd want him on my team on any given Sunday.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:02 pm
by RevLimiter
ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:Belichick thinks very highly of Johnson. He spoke glowingly of him before last year's game and I guess they also had some man-love bonding during last year's Pro Bowl. I am fairly certain he's the only player in the NFL who the coach calls by his first name, including his own players. It's always, "Brady" or "Bruschi" or whoever. I usually despise players who call attention to themselves, but it's different with # 85. I do NOT believe he does what he does because he's full of himself. I think he just likes talking smack and genuinely wants to make people laugh. He always does his ridiculous antics with a smile on his face. I honestly believe he just loves the game. Bottom line... I'd want him on my team on any given Sunday.
RACK every last letter of that take.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:09 pm
by BSmack
RevLimiter wrote:
ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:Belichick thinks very highly of Johnson. He spoke glowingly of him before last year's game and I guess they also had some man-love bonding during last year's Pro Bowl. I am fairly certain he's the only player in the NFL who the coach calls by his first name, including his own players. It's always, "Brady" or "Bruschi" or whoever. I usually despise players who call attention to themselves, but it's different with # 85. I do NOT believe he does what he does because he's full of himself. I think he just likes talking smack and genuinely wants to make people laugh. He always does his ridiculous antics with a smile on his face. I honestly believe he just loves the game. Bottom line... I'd want him on my team on any given Sunday.
RACK every last letter of that take.
Is that what the kids call C&P these days? What board will you be posting it on?

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:19 pm
by RevLimiter
BSmack wrote:
RevLimiter wrote:
ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:Belichick thinks very highly of Johnson. He spoke glowingly of him before last year's game and I guess they also had some man-love bonding during last year's Pro Bowl. I am fairly certain he's the only player in the NFL who the coach calls by his first name, including his own players. It's always, "Brady" or "Bruschi" or whoever. I usually despise players who call attention to themselves, but it's different with # 85. I do NOT believe he does what he does because he's full of himself. I think he just likes talking smack and genuinely wants to make people laugh. He always does his ridiculous antics with a smile on his face. I honestly believe he just loves the game. Bottom line... I'd want him on my team on any given Sunday.
RACK every last letter of that take.
Is that what the kids call C&P these days? What board will you be posting it on?
Whichever ones I see fit to, ankle-biter.