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Crackers gone bad

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:23 pm
by Dinsdale
VANCOUVER, Wash. - An 11-year-old boy is being hailed as a hero after he jumped into action when a man came up from behind his younger sister and grabbed her around the waist.

"She's my sister and I love her, so I just want to protect her," said Stardog Delao.

The incident happened Monday morning in the 3500 block of S Street while the two were walking to school. According to police, a man grabbed 7-year-old Amanda Bear and tried to run.

"We were walking to school and he snuck up behind me," Bear said.

"I pushed him off and I punched him," Delao said, adding that once he yanked the man away from his sister, the two ran and the man gave chase.

"He chased us down to here and we ran into the house," he said.

Police have released a composite based on the kids' description and neighbors told KATU News the face is a familiar one.

"We recognize him as one of the transients that begs on 39th right off of SR 500," said neighbor Jacey Morris.

Detective Pat Kennedy followed up on the tip and spoke with a homeless man in the area, asking if he recognized the person in the sketch.

"Well, there was one guy that kind of looks like him that came through," the man told the officer.

Police are taking the case seriously.

"These kids were interviewed multiple times by different officers and each time the story was consistent," said Kennedy.


Pray for Stardog and AmandaBear.

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:55 pm
by BSmack
Here's the composite sketch of the guy.

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Have they been filming episodes of Caveman up in the U&L?

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:01 pm
by Dinsdale
BSmack wrote: Have they been filming episodes of Caveman up in the U&L?
I think some of you in the non-rampant-illegal-immigration-states just don't understand...

They didn't need to describe the ethnicity of the suspect -- we already knew. Or we knew there was a better than 90% chance... since Hispanic immigrants are responsible for the majority of crime in these parts these days.


But hey, as long as corporate fatcats make huge bucks at the expense of our communities, where's the problem?

Re: Crackers gone bad

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:08 pm
by Degenerate
VANCOUVER, Wash. - An 11-year-old boy is being hailed as a hero after he jumped into action when a man came up from behind his younger sister and grabbed her around the waist.
Let me guess. Winston Justice was playing left tackle?

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:23 pm
by Derron
Dinsdale wrote:
BSmack wrote: Have they been filming episodes of Caveman up in the U&L?
I think some of you in the non-rampant-illegal-immigration-states just don't understand...

They didn't need to describe the ethnicity of the suspect -- we already knew. Or we knew there was a better than 90% chance... since Hispanic immigrants are responsible for the majority of crime in these parts these days.


But hey, as long as corporate fatcats make huge bucks at the expense of our communities, where's the problem?
Rack that... our school district will likely be at least 44% Hispanic this year. And that is a damn good reflection of society... but then just drive around on a Saturday or Sunday and see how many white dogs you still see versus the spics you have to dodge, avoid, and climb over.

Comparing the crime rate to the school enrollment rate is nothing, since the ones committing the crimes are not likely to have schoola ge children.

But that then begs a different statistic... the fact that our society is well over 45% Hispanic in Dins and mine's area, if you factor in the OVERWHELMING number of Jose Juan Gonzales's listed in the crimes section, or in looking at the daily jail counts and charges on Wash Co's web site. (sup Dins??)

My neighbor is now up to 3 frequent HIspanic flyers that he has arrested multiple times for DUI, etc... and one of them has been deported and back 3, ....3 fucking times now. And every time, these dudes want to fight him and the jailers...

Went to a christening party for a Guatalaman family on Sunday at a Chinese resturant...should have seen them gooks fawning over the Gutalamans for a tip for a party of about 50 of them... fucking amazing..

We can thank Sleepy Ted and his predecessor Dr. John for setting up the Oregon Health Care Plan and the resulting flood of pregnant spics spewing their bastards out of their cunts onto Oregon soil, thereby becoming American citizens, and more importantly, citizens of the most liberal state in the U & L , thereby entitiling them to COMPLETE AND FREE health care until their illegal parents get a job or pay for their own health care.

This in turn helps Oregon become further depressed as any sort of economy, with the pandering to the enviromental fucks, and increasing taxes on Orgon business on a daily basis, there by assuring that our state will be mired in recession, depression, liberalism and political correctness for fucking ever.

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:27 pm
by Dinsdale
Derron wrote: Went to a christening party for a Guatalaman family on Sunday at a Chinese resturant

Please tell me it wasn't that Chinger food/nightclub place in Forest Grave?


That joint kind of raises the bar on "dive."

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:17 pm
by Derron
Dinsdale wrote:
Derron wrote: Went to a christening party for a Guatalaman family on Sunday at a Chinese resturant

Please tell me it wasn't that Chinger food/nightclub place in Forest Grave?


That joint kind of raises the bar on "dive."
The Happy Palace....That take out meth joint??...hell no..How do you know of it's reputation ?? The cops hide a block away and pop people right and left for DUI and possesion right after they leave there..they had up on their reader board last October " Pimps and HO's Party Oct 7th. " Made everybody in town shit...they had more people stopping getting their pictures under that sign until they took it down after about 4 days...

There is a nice new sports bar / pub/ gambling establishment next to Godfather's there though... just opened...

Buffet Palace at Halll and Center... not a bad deal and decent food.....me and the OL were about the only crackers in the place though...Chinks and spics mostly... they like that Chinese food, particularly the coastal people from Central America... not likely we will be going back though....

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:20 pm
by Goober McTuber
Derron wrote:We can thank Sleepy Ted and his predecessor Dr. John for setting up the Oregon Health Care Plan and the resulting flood of pregnant spics spewing their bastards out of their cunts onto Oregon soil, thereby becoming American citizens, and more importantly, citizens of the most liberal state in the U & L , thereby entitiling them to COMPLETE AND FREE health care until their illegal parents get a job or pay for their own health care.
Based on what we’ve seen from you, Derron, each and every one of those little buggers they squirt out must raise the collective IQ of the U & L.

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:19 pm
by Derron
Goober McTuber wrote:
Derron wrote:We can thank Sleepy Ted and his predecessor Dr. John for setting up the Oregon Health Care Plan and the resulting flood of pregnant spics spewing their bastards out of their cunts onto Oregon soil, thereby becoming American citizens, and more importantly, citizens of the most liberal state in the U & L , thereby entitiling them to COMPLETE AND FREE health care until their illegal parents get a job or pay for their own health care.
Based on what we’ve seen from you, Derron, each and every one of those little buggers they squirt out must raise the collective IQ of the U & L.
Fuck you Gobbles My Cock...at least I can formulate more than a one line response that likely took you all afternoon to come up with, and then picturing you gloating at your keyboard, wringing your hands together, telling yourself you got over on the U & L , then retire to the head to jerk yourself silly over your perceived "bode" blast.

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:30 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Derron wrote:at least I can formulate more than a one line response that likely took you all afternoon to come up with
hey dipshit, you mean like the run-on paragraphs of total and utter bullshit that you spew that no one can comprehend because it's written with the intelligence of a third grader? shit that only meth-riddled tweakers would think makes sense?

Goober's on the money: get to the point, get off your blast and don't waste anyone's time. you, on the other hand, waste everyone's time with your inane ramblings and everyone here is dumber after reading your shit.

Fuck you.

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:54 pm
by Derron
Screw_Michigan wrote: everyone here is dumber after reading your shit.
Good... I will keep posting and the tards like you will soon be so fucking stupid you won't be able to feed yourself and will then fuck off and die, which is what we are all hoping for.

Read this and become "dumber" you low life bitch.....

What the fuck is "dumber"...BTW ?

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:05 am
by MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan
Dinsdale wrote:
They didn't need to describe the ethnicity of the suspect -- we already knew. Or we knew there was a better than 90% chance... since Hispanic immigrants are responsible for the majority of crime in these parts these days.
That's strange. I guess Oregon must be the exception to the rule...

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/ ... rates.html

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:15 am
by RadioFan
"People who come here legally or illegally are risking everything. The last thing they want to do is run afoul of the law," said Angela Kelley, director of the Immigration Policy Center. The research organization published the study in July.
This study doesn't mean anything, because it doesn't agree with us.

Sin,

Complete idiots ... errr, a minority in Tulsa who blame every fucking problem here on illegal immigrants.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:18 am
by Mikey
The illegal immigrants here are to blame for all the cheap but tasty Mexican food available in town.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:08 am
by MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan
And all the immaculately manicured lawns too. Damn I hate those beaners.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:22 pm
by Jerkovich
MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:And all the immaculately manicured lawns too. Damn I hate those beaners.

Ya right, you want your lawn fucked up, just have a wetti mow it for a year. Your fescue will become Bermuda in no time.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:07 pm
by smackaholic
wish the fukk I could grow bermuda up hear. by far the best shit to hit a golf ball off of.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:29 pm
by Goober McTuber
Derron wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:
Derron wrote:We can thank Sleepy Ted and his predecessor Dr. John for setting up the Oregon Health Care Plan and the resulting flood of pregnant spics spewing their bastards out of their cunts onto Oregon soil, thereby becoming American citizens, and more importantly, citizens of the most liberal state in the U & L , thereby entitiling them to COMPLETE AND FREE health care until their illegal parents get a job or pay for their own health care.
Based on what we’ve seen from you, Derron, each and every one of those little buggers they squirt out must raise the collective IQ of the U & L.
Fuck you Gobbles My Cock...at least I can formulate more than a one line response that likely took you all afternoon to come up with, and then picturing you gloating at your keyboard, wringing your hands together, telling yourself you got over on the U & L , then retire to the head to jerk yourself silly over your perceived "bode" blast.
Brevity is the soul of wit.

Learn it.

Live it.

Retard.

BTW, I was up all night working on this.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:46 pm
by Dinsdale
RadioFan wrote:
"People who come here legally or illegally are risking everything. The last thing they want to do is run afoul of the law"

Uhm... someone correct me if I'm wrong here...


Isn't there a fucking law against entering the USA without permission?

ALL illegal immigrants are criminals. I guess that's why they use the word "illegal."

So, Jose has already shown a flagrant disregard for American law... at what point are we to assume he becomes a law-abiding member of American society? I mean, it's only logical to assume a flagrant law breaker will suddenly become an upstanding citizen overnight, right? Since they have so much respect for the laws of this country, right?

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:20 pm
by MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan
Dinsdale wrote:
RadioFan wrote:
"People who come here legally or illegally are risking everything. The last thing they want to do is run afoul of the law"

Uhm... someone correct me if I'm wrong here...


Isn't there a fucking law against entering the USA without permission?

ALL illegal immigrants are criminals. I guess that's why they use the word "illegal."

So, Jose has already shown a flagrant disregard for American law... at what point are we to assume he becomes a law-abiding member of American society? I mean, it's only logical to assume a flagrant law breaker will suddenly become an upstanding citizen overnight, right? Since they have so much respect for the laws of this country, right?
C'mon Dins. You're smarter than that. As a pothead, you should know that all laws are not created equal. Breaking a stupid law does not necessarily mean you'll start breaking the ones that make sense...

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:25 pm
by Dinsdale

Oh, and btw...


What an absolute load of complete fucking horseshit. Small wonder that the "statistics" came from a Hispanic proponent for illegals.


Remind me again when the fed, and most states started keeping stats on which criminals were illegal or not?

Bueller? Class?

Oh, wait... they don't.

It's pretty easy to make a statistical argument when you make up the statistics. At least I admit to doing as much. And I sure the hell ain't trying to get pub by writing "official" reports on complete bullshit lies.


So, since your link is outright bullshit, any other reasons criminal aliens should be allowed to stay?


BTW -- My #1 statistic is 100%, absolutely correct... ALL, meaning 100% of illegal immigrants are criminals. Their "crime rate" is 100%. This is indesputable FACT.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:37 pm
by Dinsdale
MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:
C'mon Dins. You're smarter than that. As a pothead, you should know that all laws are not created equal. Breaking a stupid law does not necessarily mean you'll start breaking the ones that make sense...

Regulating the number of destitute people entering the country, who are willing to undermine the labor force, and don't have to provide any background information whatsoever to ascertain at least a glimpse into their character, or at least their criminal record...


is "stupid"?

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:14 pm
by Dinsdale

Hey, how about some facts, rather than someone's very skewed interpretation of bogus statistics?

FairUS wrote:The apparent linkage between illegal alien status and a higher incidence of crime was suggested in the data presented in a recent study of the costs of illegal immigration in Arizona.3 That study noted that Arizona in 2000 had the highest per capita rate of illegal aliens in the country and also ranked at the top of a number of crime indexes. It had the nation’s highest per capita rate of property crimes, the highest rate of vehicle theft, and the 2nd highest rate in the country of larceny theft. For burglaries, it ranked 5th, for murders 9th, and for robberies and aggravated assaults it ranked 15th in the country.4

There is nothing about the population in Arizona that would appear to explain this pattern of crime incidence other than the illegal alien population and the proximity to the border with Mexico.

And as far as Arizona goes... AZ has a disproportionately low number of African American young males living in an urban/inner city environment, which are very well-documented for having off-the-charts crime rates. Yet AZ managed to rank at or near the top in many of the crime categories. And they have the highest % of illegals...


Pretty simple fucking math, if you don't let some pro-illegal tards with clear agendas start manipulating "statistics" and start factoring in nonfactors like education level and income and whatnot as "adjustments."

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:30 pm
by MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan
Dinsdale wrote:
Pretty simple fucking math, if you don't let some pro-illegal tards with clear agendas start manipulating "statistics" and start factoring in nonfactors like education level and income and whatnot as "adjustments."
WTF are you talking about? One of the main points of the article is that those "non-factors" are just that - non-factors.
The study by University of California-Irvine sociologist Ruben G. Rumbaut and Immigration Policy Center researcher Walter A. Ewing found that for every ethnic group without exception, incarceration rates among young men are lowest for immigrants, even those with low levels of education. The researchers found this holds true for Mexican, Guatemalan and Salvadoran immigrants, who make up the bulk of the undocumented population.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:43 pm
by MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan
Oh, and way to "refute" my link with those stats you found on FairUS, which is clearly an unbiased, neutral source of information on the immigration debate. :meds:

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:54 pm
by Dinsdale
MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:
The study by University of California-Irvine sociologist Ruben G. Rumbaut and Immigration Policy Center researcher Walter A. Ewing

If you do a websearch on this study, you'll find it's pretty heavily laughed at, since they actually had the audacity to alter numbers and percentages to acieve the results they were predetermined to get.


Oh, and the fact they told outright lies... like in regards to "illegal" immigrants, when they had no access whatsoever to any hard data on the subject.

And if your point comes down to stepping around the fact what you're actually trying to say is "well, immigrants commit less crimes than inner city African American young males"... well, bully for you. How about tossing out data from inner cities, then see how those "statistics" bear out... oh, wait.

The Arizona crime rates are a much more telling factor.


And yet another factor that those shysters avoided... the flight-from-prosecution rates. Get fucking real... it's so disingenuous to not even mention this in a "study," it should not only render said "study" worthless, it should expose the "authors" as the shysters they are.

Matter of fact, a friend of mine lost his younger brother in a hit-and-run last year. The perp was never charged... take a big fucking guess why? Now, point out to me where the "authors" made any sort of "adjustment" to reflect this? Oh... they didn't.


Pure, unadulterated propaganda.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:09 pm
by MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan
mvscal wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:Pure, unadulterated propaganda.
Yep. Fuck, it isn't even spin. It's just made up, blatantly falsified bullshit.
Which is worse that thinly veiled racism, I guess.

Don't get me wrong, mvscal. I know you wear your racism like a badge of honor, and I guess I can respect that on some level, but most of the anti-immigration, build-a-wall, Minuteman types typically try to dance around the real issue - their fear and/or hatred of all things brown-skinned.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:25 pm
by Dinsdale
The definition of a racist: Anyone who disagrees with a liberal agenda.

I have no problems with any legal, reasonably law-abiding immigrant, of any ethnic group. But when a particular group starts accounting for an ungodly share of serious crimes, and a large percentage of that group is in this country illegally to begin with, I have a big problem with it... as should anyone else with a working brain.

But I really really really don't have any problem with leagl immigration to this country... since my freaking parents did it and all... applied (AFTER accepting a job offer), gave a sworn accounting of criminal record and other character-type stuff, spoke fluent English, got the Greencard, and steadfastly completed all requirements of nonresident aliens. Never took dollar-one from the government. Became at least slightly active in the community... not the "**insert name of ethnic group/nationality** community," but they actual community they lived in. Their primary motivation was to leave an economically depressed country to "create a better life for their family"... sound familiar?


See, if they didn't jump through all those legal hoops, they would have been criminals. People of character wouldn't start their residency here by breaking one of the more basic laws of a sovereign nation.


What boggles the mind, is that people are so bent on some strange notion of being PC that they blind themselves to what is some really basic common fucking sense.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:30 pm
by Dinsdale
MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:Which is worse that thinly veiled racism, I guess.


BTW, Mike...


So, how would you feel about the subject if it were millions and millions of Iranians, Iraqis, or Afghanis walking across the border without documentation or anything else associated with legal entry?

Would that be cool, since they were "just trying to make a better life for their family"?

Would your opinion be any different from that on the Mexicans?

C'mon now, don't engage in any of that thinly veiled racism.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:48 am
by Derron
[web]http://pswebpub.co.washington.or.us/jms/incustody/[/web]

There is the jail blotter for the county Dins and I live in....go ahead and scroll the name list and see what the ratio is ... or better yet.. wait until Friday and Saturday night and watch that bad boy grow by 30%...

And then also note how few " Immigration Holds" there are.

And after 28 years in the construction business... today was the first time we have ever been told we had to provide proof of our employee's eligibility to work in the US.

You should have seen 2 of those taco's faces when they said that....it makes the odds better when 30% of the bidders drop out. And this was a public works contract.

OK... and bitches... just for fun... hit the "A" on the listing and check out the names.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:30 pm
by PSUFAN
The definition of a racist: Anyone who disagrees with a liberal agenda.
The definition of a moron: one who identifies with or discounts an "agenda" based only on flimsy polemics.

Now - RadioFan v. mvscal in this thread is an interesting matchup. mvscal is right, illegal immigrants have indeed been costly in many cases. What he doesn't seem to account for is the fact that there are many polemicists that are overloading the issue with their agendas. In places like Tulsa and Reading PA and Arizona, you have folks bugbearing illegal immigrants, rather than addressing the issue in a measured fashion.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:40 pm
by BSmack
PSUFAN wrote:bugbearing
Pray for him.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:43 pm
by PSUFAN
Again, you misunderstand. There are those who use the illegal immigrant situation to fuel other agendas. That's what is meant by "bugbearing". Illegal immigration should be understood in its own terms. Those who want to be tough about it, such as yourself, should be loathe to allow opportunists to clamp on their own separate agendas.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:03 am
by Derron
PSUFAN wrote:Again, you misunderstand. There are those who use the illegal immigrant situation to fuel other agendas. That's what is meant by "bugbearing". Illegal immigration should be understood in its own terms. Those who want to be tough about it, such as yourself, should be loathe to allow opportunists to clamp on their own separate agendas.
Cause and effect anyone ??... Since there is no emperical data or accurate data on the "illegal" immigration, just guesstimates.. it becomes very hard to point to any one thing..but you can certainly link a lot of shit to "illegal" immigration, but with out the emperical data... it becomes heresay...

Drunk driving arrests are way up... a majority are Hispanic...look again at the jail blotter I posted and see the number of "holds" versus non holds. Some hard data.....but likly inaccurate.

Criminal arrests are up... look again at the jail blotter tomorrow night after the cops get done picking up all the drunk spics after work...then the ones that go home and beat their OL's... and then want to fight the 3 or 4 cops that come to hook them for it no relationship there at all....

Trade wages are way down. The majority of the trade workers outside of plumbers and electricians and non union shops are Hispanic. But no data is kept and the fake ID trade is doing VERY well. No hard data.

The fucking spics buy more Denalis, Expeditions, Escalades on time than anybody. They don't give a fuck they have to stretch it 6 to 10 years...buy the fucking rig and get styling....the kids are covered by the Oregon Health Plan... and if the man gets hurt, he can scam it on his employers workmens comp.. if they carry it.. and if the OL gets hurt or sick... just go to the ER and stiff the hospital for the bill. No hard data... no clearinghouse for the data.

Illegal immigration causes this which in turn causes this which in turn contributes to this, which causes this....pretty good case for a linkage there I would say...

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:32 am
by RadioFan
PSUFAN wrote:There are those who use the illegal immigrant situation to fuel other agendas.
Exactly.

There's a small minority of clueless fucktards here -- I'd refer to them as rednecks, except that would be an insult to clueless rednecks -- who blame everything on illegal immigration. The new arena not having enough seats, toy recalls in China, the price of gas, you name it.

Our resident tool Derron pretty much makes my point on this one with the innane driveling above.
go ahead and scroll the name list
Yeah, because obviously everyone with an Hispanic surname must be illegal. You'd be right at home here with a minority of complete idiots, dumbass.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:38 am
by PSUFAN
I don't know what "emperical" data is, so I'll probably just go ahead and grant you that there's none. Apparently though, empirical data suggests you're a dumbfuck.

A SPIC IN A SPORTS RIG? HAS to be a wetback!!!

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:53 am
by War Wagon
RadioFan wrote: Our resident tool Derron pretty much makes my point on this one with the innane driveling above.
Self-asskickings are always the bestest, wouldn't you say? Next thing you know, you'll call Derron a cur.

You can't say stuff about my old TNW buddy like that. Only we can say stuff like that about him.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:59 am
by RadioFan
So I left out an "n." Sue me, bitch.

And while you're at it, have another Bud Light. It might turn into Bud Lorenzo.

Derron has that covered, I'm sure.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:27 am
by RadioFan
PSUFAN wrote:I don't know what "emperical" data is
Obviously, it's anybody with Garcia, Martinez, Rodrigeuez, Lopez, Hernandez, Gonzales, Perez, Sanchez, Riviera, Diaz and Santana.

Oh, and there are others, which you pretty much don't know about. After all, do a name search! They're ALL ILLEGALS.

Sin,

Derron

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:17 pm
by Derron
RadioFan wrote:
PSUFAN wrote:I don't know what "emperical" data is
Obviously, it's anybody with Garcia, Martinez, Rodrigeuez, Lopez, Hernandez, Gonzales, Perez, Sanchez, Riviera, Diaz and Santana.

Oh, and there are others, which you pretty much don't know about. After all, do a name search! They're ALL ILLEGALS.

Sin,

Derron
Says the myopian Mexican who welcomes all his homies to live with him.

Fucking cool aid drinking cunt.