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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:25 am
by At Large
Tom Osborne and the fans here.

New book chronicles fall of NU football
Johnny Perez and Luke Nichols
Issue date: 10/18/07 Section: News

Editor's Note: Jonathan Crowl is a sports reporter for the Daily Nebraskan. His responsibilities include coverage of the Nebraska football team. All of the reporting and writing for his book, "The Nebraska Way," was done independent of his role as a Daily Nebraskan reporter. He provided a copy of the book to the Daily Nebraskan in advance of its publication.

A book written by a University of Nebraska-Lincoln student charges that the recent decline in the success of Nebraska football can be attributed to the abandonment of cultural values that once gave the program strength.

The book, "The Nebraska Way," was written by Jonathan Crowl, a senior English major, and it devotes substantial discussion to the past half century of Nebraska's storied football program.

But several chapters contain accounts of animosity, frustration and alienation within the Athletic Department during the tenures of former athletic director Steve Pederson and NU Coach Bill Callahan.

The book also includes an account of profane criticism from Callahan toward former football coach Tom Osborne, who was described as "trying to run things from Washington" during his tenure in Congress.

Osborne was named NU's interim athletic director after Pederson was fired this week.

Using several sources, Crowl also discusses the firing of former football coach Frank Solich, the hiring of Callahan, changes to the team's walk-on program and changes in the management style of the team and the Athletic Department.

The book should be available in some bookstores by early November and will be published by the independent publisher iUniverse Inc.

Its foreword was written by former head football trainer Doak Ostergard, who Crowl relied on heavily as a source.

Ostergard joined the Athletic Department in 1984 and was fired abruptly in February 2007.

Ostergard said the main purpose of the book was to educate people on the qualities of the football program and speak on the way "business has been done recently."

"We need to try and define what that Nebraska way really was," Ostergard said in an interview with the Daily Nebraskan. "From the outside, people can't understand it, and from the inside, people can't explain it."

Crowl's book seeks to identify how a sparsely populated, flat state in the middle of the country can generate a powerful football program, Ostergard said.

"Some people have taken the approach that, well, the football team has shaped the character of the state," Ostergard said. "But I think in the book here it's the other way around. I think the program was shaped by the culture of the state.

"That's why people are so passionate about it - no matter where you are in the state, that was something you could identify with."

Ostergard told Crowl he was originally impressed with Callahan's attempts to learn the culture of Nebraska football when he was first hired, but several incidents forced his opinion to deteriorate.

Some of Crowl's accounts - mostly from Ostergard - indicate that Callahan became disconnected with the state, its traditions and the history of its football program.

In one instance, Ostergard recalled a meeting with Callahan where the coach voiced his frustration over an article printed in a local newspaper.



In the book, Ostergard continues to quote Callahan:

"Why don't they go read a book or get lost in the Sandhills? I'm going to get me a real newspaper. I'm going to read The New York Times."

Callahan also grew impatient with former coach Osborne, Ostergard told Crowl.

After a phone conversation with the former coach, who was serving in Washington as a congressman, Ostergard said Callahan referred to Osborne as "a crusty old f-."


NU's Sports Information Office said Callahan was not available to return calls seeking comment about the book's content Wednesday because of numerous staff meetings that were scheduled.

During a short press conference following Wednesday's team practice, Callahan said his administration had maintained commitment to Nebraska's traditions.

"We've done a lot of positive things that added to the traditions of what Nebraska's all about," Callahan said. "We do understand Big Red football."

"It really comes down to one thing, and that's winning," Callahan added.

Crowl also wrote about the decline in the Athletic Department's relationship with the public.

When Pederson took over, he began to close himself off from people he didn't want to talk to, while tightening media and stadium access, Crowl said in an interview.

"I mean, security down there is on steroids compared to what it used to be," he said.

The new atmosphere was noticed by former players as well, including Mike Minter, a former NU and NFL player who Crowl quoted in the book.

"It was starting to be a compound, as opposed to the stadium," Minter told the Daily Nebraskan. "It felt like a family atmosphere, (but) it started to feel more like a corporate atmosphere in the past five years.

"Now it's like Fort Knox."

A former employee Crowl quotes anonymously in the book said the environment inspired two running jokes among the department's staff: "Everything's great," and "Let me see what Steve thinks."

Crowl also discusses changes made in the team's walk-on policy.

During Osborne's tenure, Crowl said, anywhere from one-half to one-third of the Cornhuskers' travel squad would be composed of walk-ons.

After Callahan took the program's reins, he adjusted the walk-on program in an effort to reduce the roster's size, Crowl wrote.

Said Minter: "A lot of kids waited to walk on, then three years into the program they become a starter - your team is really made on your role players, not your superstars."

Callahan said he was a "firm believer in the walk-on program" after Wednesday's practice.

The book, which also speculates on why Ostergard was fired and quotes several other former players, ends with a letter written by Ben Kingston, a fullback from the class of 1999, sent to Pederson on Feb. 19, 2007.

One statement in the letter reads, "I can honestly say, based on my conversations with the former players, coaches, etc., that we now feel that the 'Nebraska' we knew, the character that made this family great, has been lost … at least for now."

Daily Nebraskan

Book excerpts about Callahan, Osborne create waves at NU
BY BRIAN ROSENTHAL / Lincoln Journal Star
Thursday, Oct 18, 2007 - 09:09:27 pm CDT

And you thought this week couldn’t get any more bizarre.

Two days after being hired as Nebraska’s interim athletic director, Tom Osborne was already issuing statements defending comments attributed to football coach Bill Callahan.

Excerpts from the book “The Nebraska Way,” written by University of Nebraska student Jonathan Crowl, with help from former Nebraska trainer Doak Ostergard, were released in a Thursday article in the Daily Nebraskan, NU’s student newspaper.

Among the brow-raisers was a story told by Ostergard in which Callahan, upset after a phone conversation with Osborne, said the then-congressman was “trying to run things from Washington,” and referred to Osborne as “that crusty old f—.”

Osborne said earlier this week he would evaluate Callahan and his coaching staff at the end of the season.

In a prepared statement released Thursday, Osborne said he understood the frustrations and emotions of being a head coach.

“I’m not surprised that my long-term influence on the program could sometimes be felt as a controlling force even while I was away, but that was never the intent,” Osborne said. “That’s why I don’t pay any attention to what may or may not have been said years ago. All that matters is I’m very supportive of Coach Callahan and his staff. We are trying to help our players and rally our fans. Right now, that’s our entire focus.”


The book also details an Ostergard story in which Callahan was upset over a newspaper story.

“F-ing people need to get a life,” Callahan said, according to Ostergard. “Why don’t they go read a book or get lost in the Sandhills? I’m going to get me a real newspaper. I’m going to read the New York Times.”


Callahan, when asked after Thursday’s practice if he denied the comments in Crowl’s book, declined comment and referred to a statement released with Osborne’s. In it, Callahan said he loves coaching and living in Nebraska, and that he respects Osborne.

“We are building a strong relationship with Coach Osborne,” Callahan said. “He knows this program inside and out, and that makes him a valuable resource for me, my staff and our players.”


Callahan fired Ostergard in February, a move that upset Ostergard, largely because the longtime employee said he was given no reason for his sudden dismissal. Crowl, a senior English major and sports writer for the Daily Nebraskan, wrote an article on the situation from Ostergard’s standpoint.

Ostergard later approached Crowl about writing a book about Nebraska football and its relationship with the state. Crowl agreed in March to write the book. Published by iUniverse Inc., “The Nebraska Way” should be available next month — a little later than originally planned, Crowl said.

The 125-page book chronicles many details of Nebraska football — from the success under Bob Devaney and Osborne to the turmoil surrounding the firing of Frank Solich and the leadership of recently fired athletic director Steve Pederson.

Crowl said Thursday’s Daily Nebraskan article had been planned last week, before Pederson’s firing. He said he’s not heard feedback from anybody within the Nebraska athletic department regarding the released excerpts.

“From what I’ve heard about people’s reactions today,” Crowl said, “I think one of the more misconstrued aspects of the book ... there’s a lot of focus on the controversial subjects that relate to Callahan and Pederson, but really, if you look at the book, almost two-thirds don’t deal with any controversial subject matter.”

Ostergard didn’t return phone messages seeking comment. But earlier this week, when asked to comment on Pederson’s firing, Ostergard declined, telling the Journal Star he wanted to take “the high road.”

Said Callahan of Ostergard: “I think he’s a fine man. We wish him the best.”

Hmm... If it's getting hot in the kitchen, it's about to reach inferno levels...

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:15 pm
by Sky
With or without this, Callahan is a piece of shit and I hope Osborne runs him out of town as soon as the final gun sounds.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:55 pm
by SunCoastSooner
Slash is as good as G-O-N-E!

Still never was able to beat "The Hillbillies" either.

Hopefully we can welcome back the old Nebraska to the fold in a timely fashion.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:31 pm
by indyfrisco
I wonder what :brad:'s thoughts are on this.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:19 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Sudden Sam wrote:At Alabama, we used to be made fun of for wanting to "keep it in the family".
I thought the south condoned this sort of thing?
With Nick Saban, the Tide has hired an outsider who understands and respects Alabama's football legacy. He gets it.
For that kind of money, I'm sure he does.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:47 pm
by Dinsdale
Sudden Sam wrote:At Alabama, we used to be made fun of for wanting to "keep it in the family".

Uhm actually, that ridicule didn't stem from coaching hires, or anything else to do with football.


Sorry you had to find out this way.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:15 pm
by Mikey
So, Callahan dropped a few f-bombs during conversations with athletic department staff? And called God a crusty old fuck to boot?

Heavens, I'm surprised somebody so profane has lasted as long as he has already. I mean, this sort of thing would never be tolerated elsewhere.


Bottom line...tradition and shit are fine, but in this day and age you are not going to maintain a successful football program by feeding a bunch of local steers a lot of hormones and putting them out on the field. 20 years ago maybe...

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:35 pm
by At Large
Mikey wrote:So, Callahan dropped a few f-bombs during conversations with athletic department staff? And called God a crusty old fuck to boot?

Heavens, I'm surprised somebody so profane has lasted as long as he has already. I mean, this sort of thing would never be tolerated elsewhere.


Bottom line...tradition and shit are fine, but in this day and age you are not going to maintain a successful football program by feeding a bunch of local steers a lot of hormones and putting them out on the field. 20 years ago maybe...

Bob Devaney, the coach prior to Osborne, could curse a streak a mile long. The fact is, this is another piece of evidence as to why Callahan doesn't 'get it'. The fact that you don't either isn't surprising...

He could be an altar boy and he'd still be a moron. The man doesn't get it and he'll never get it. This is just the foam on top of the heap of the stew that is Bill Callahan.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:02 pm
by Killian
Sounds like you guys are going through your Bob Davie right now. Hopefully you don't follow that up with a Willingham.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:18 pm
by Mikey
At Large wrote:
Mikey wrote:So, Callahan dropped a few f-bombs during conversations with athletic department staff? And called God a crusty old fuck to boot?

Heavens, I'm surprised somebody so profane has lasted as long as he has already. I mean, this sort of thing would never be tolerated elsewhere.


Bottom line...tradition and shit are fine, but in this day and age you are not going to maintain a successful football program by feeding a bunch of local steers a lot of hormones and putting them out on the field. 20 years ago maybe...

Bob Devaney, the coach prior to Osborne, could curse a streak a mile long. The fact is, this is another piece of evidence as to why Callahan doesn't 'get it'. The fact that you don't either isn't surprising...

He could be an altar boy and he'd still be a moron. The man doesn't get it and he'll never get it. This is just the foam on top of the heap of the stew that is Bill Callahan.
I never claimed that Callahan worth a shit as a coach. But the article (and your bolding) focused mainly on his use of profanity.

So now you're saying that he doesn't swear enough? Make up your mind.

Or is this just another Nebraska tradition that nobody else "gets"?

If he's a shitty coach then they should fire him because of that. WGARA what kind of language he uses off the record?
Focusing on that is the sign of a true cunt.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:24 pm
by Adelpiero
fuck osbourne

look at what Nu tards did to solich, ran him out, they get what they deserve.


Someone mentioned that osbourne brings class back to program, if that was class, then Jimmy Johnson is a saint. thugs, criminals, cover ups, prop 48's thats not class.

times have changed, Nebraska is fading, they will never be a football power, will they have a few good years, be competitive, win bowls, yes, but going to national title games 3 times in a decade are over. they wont sniff a title game in next 20 years.

hell doesnt rape get you a 4 year ride in lincoln?


NU=Notre Dame the glory days are over

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:18 pm
by At Large
Mikey wrote:
At Large wrote:
Mikey wrote:So, Callahan dropped a few f-bombs during conversations with athletic department staff? And called God a crusty old fuck to boot?

Heavens, I'm surprised somebody so profane has lasted as long as he has already. I mean, this sort of thing would never be tolerated elsewhere.


Bottom line...tradition and shit are fine, but in this day and age you are not going to maintain a successful football program by feeding a bunch of local steers a lot of hormones and putting them out on the field. 20 years ago maybe...

Bob Devaney, the coach prior to Osborne, could curse a streak a mile long. The fact is, this is another piece of evidence as to why Callahan doesn't 'get it'. The fact that you don't either isn't surprising...

He could be an altar boy and he'd still be a moron. The man doesn't get it and he'll never get it. This is just the foam on top of the heap of the stew that is Bill Callahan.
I never claimed that Callahan worth a shit as a coach. But the article (and your bolding) focused mainly on his use of profanity.

So now you're saying that he doesn't swear enough? Make up your mind.

Or is this just another Nebraska tradition that nobody else "gets"?

If he's a shitty coach then they should fire him because of that. WGARA what kind of language he uses off the record?
Focusing on that is the sign of a true cunt.

Okay... Let me TRY to explain this to you. I highlighted the comments NOT to highlight the language (although that certainly magnifies the statements), BUT to show Callahan's utter lack of regard for Nebraska's past AND its fans. The fact that he doesn't respect the coach that is a legend here and doesn't get why Nebraska fans can't get a life is what I'm talking about.

From the start, it appears that he doesn't get anything involved with Husker football, the fans, the passion the fans have, the history, etc. This is the same man that was befuddled by oranges being thrown on the field during an OU/NU game.

He doesn't GET that NU fans won't get a life because NU football is our life and when we barely beat a team like Ball State or get our asses handed to us by USC/MU/OSU this season that you shouldn't start your comments with 'Gee whiz. It's just another game'. He should be just as offended as we are.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:35 pm
by Mikey
OK...I think I'm getting it.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:00 pm
by RadioFan
Sky wrote:With or without this, Callahan is a piece of shit
Yep.
Sky wrote: and I hope Osborne runs him out of town as soon as the final gun sounds.
If A&M manages to do to them what OSU did (unlikely, but still a possibility), it could come as early as this weekend, hopefully. The more likely scenario, though, is that Tom waits until after the Colorado game.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:09 pm
by Mikey
RadioFan wrote:
Sky wrote:With or without this, Callahan is a piece of shit
Yep.
Sky wrote: and I hope Osborne runs him out of town as soon as the final gun sounds.
If A&M manages to do to them what OSU did (unlikely, but still a possibility), it could come as early as this weekend, hopefully. The more likely scenario, though, is that Tom waits until after the Colorado game.
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:10 am
by Danimal
[quote="Adelpiero"]fuck osbourne

look at what Nu tards did to solich, ran him out, they get what they deserve.


Someone mentioned that osbourne brings class back to program, if that was class, then Jimmy Johnson is a saint. thugs, criminals, cover ups, prop 48's thats not class.

times have changed, Nebraska is fading, they will never be a football power, will they have a few good years, be competitive, win bowls, yes, but going to national title games 3 times in a decade are over. they wont sniff a title game in next 20 years.

hell doesnt rape get you a 4 year ride in lincoln?


Neb did lead the nation in Academic All-Americans and plenty of those prop-48's did graduate. It may have been with a C-average in an easier major but they got through. A lot of schools wouldn't care enough to get them through. Plus as far as the thugsker shit goes you keep bringing up a couple of years over a long-ass history. Osborne admits he mishandled some guys back then(and he did) but most of the guys even on those "thugsker" teams still stayed out of trouble. Cover-ups? Ya I'm sure you have all the inside dope on those. It has been a long time since the football players had carte blanche in Lincoln, pre- "thugsker" days. Last time I checked we've never even been on probation yet we are just the worst thing out there. Ya right.

As far as getting what they deserve because of the handling of Solich's staff goes, IT WAS PEDEY'S CALL. Pedey wanted to axe Solich from the get-go. He had some booster friends behind him. He talked the chancellor into going-along. That doesn't the mean the state in general was clamoring for Solich's head. It made some folks happy but a lot of fans questioned it and still do. In case you forgot it was that action that tore a major rift in the fanbase that they are now trying to bring together. The consensus on getting rid of BC-and-company is WAY stronger than it was on the '03-staff. The majority of the fans in '03 would not have been averse to letting Solich finish the season and giving that staff another year to prove themselves.

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:59 am
by King Crimson
i'd say most Huskers i know were happy when Solich got canned. the reason was recruiting and doubting the O scheme (and J. Lord). i've read the same thing here in years past. Whether or not they were happy with Callahan, is a separate issue.

let's not mount a halo on the Frankie's head and whitewash history. if Callahan won the North and 10 games this year, would the rehabilitated opinions of Solich be the same as they appear to be in the last week?

the guy did get beat 62-32 in Boulder and drilled in the BCS game against Miami. he was taking heat.

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:45 am
by MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan
King Crimson wrote:

the guy did get beat 62-32 in Boulder
In all fairness to Nebraska, the score was actually...
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