Why is Joe Namath in the HOF?

[ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2]

Career QB rating of 65.5
13 seasons, 2-1 playoff record, 1 SB
173 TDs, 220 INT
77 wins, 108 losses

So he had 3-4 good years. BFD. These numbers have "fucking loser" written all over them.

poptart coming to Broadway's Defense in 3… 2… 1… "I want to kiss you."


What other stiffs out there don’t belong in Canton? Thoughts>

[Dinsdale]

So he had 3-4 good years. BFD.

I think his place in the HoF comes from having one great week, not 3-4 good years.

Ahhhh, but what a week it was.

[BSmack]

Because he was Broadway Fucking Joe.

Next question?

[Dinsdale]

Bob Griese

When I was a little kid and we'd play football, we had a play called the "griese."

If, after counting the appropriate number of alligators, there was a jailbreak on the blitz, the QB would call out "GRIESE!!!" This meant he was about to not just run out of bounds, but run at a 45-degree angle between the sideline and his own endzone, resulting in a huge loss of yardage.

A "griese."

[Goober McTuber]

Joe Namath single-handedly forced the AFL-NFL merger. Much like Ronald Reagan single-handedly put an end to Communism.

[indyfrisco]

I thought he got in due to his role in Chatanooga Choo Choo Train.

[Cosmo Kramer]

Because he was Broadway Fucking Joe.

Next question?

RACK B_SMACK

Willie Joe was on the Brady Bunch, Wore a Fur coat on the sideline, played tonsil hockey on live T.V. and predicted and followed through on one of the biggest upsets in Football. That's why

[Goober McTuber]

Why is Joe Namath in the HOF?

Good question. He probably cheated his way in.

[poptart]

Lynn Swann - he's a joke as a HoFamer
Gale Sayers - brilliant player, but his career was too brief


Btw, here is the 2008 HoF Preliminary Nominee list:

Quarterbacks
Ken Anderson
Randall Cunningham
Boomer Esiason
Jim Plunkett
Phil Simms
Ken Stabler
Joe Theismann
Danny White
Doug Williams

Running Backs
Ottis Anderson
Roger Craig
Terrell Davis
Eric Metcalf
Herschel Walker
Ricky Watters

Wide Receivers
Cliff Branch
Harold Carmichael
Cris Carter
Dwight Clark
Gary Clark
Isaac Curtis
Henry Ellard
Roy Green
Art Monk
Herman Moore
Drew Pearson
Andre Reed

Tight Ends
Mark Bavaro
Todd Christensen
Ben Coates
Russ Francis
Brent Jones
Jay Novacek

Offensive Linemen
Tony Boselli, T
Lomas Brown, T
Jim Covert, T
Dermontti Dawson, C
Russ Grimm, G
Jay Hilgenberg, C
Kent Hill, G/T
Chris Hinton, G/T
Kent Hull, C
Joe Jacoby, T
Mike Kenn, T
Bob Kuechenberg, G
Jim Lachey, T
Mark May, T/G/C
Randall McDaniel, G
Jeff Van Note, C
Richmond Webb, T
Steve Wisniewski, G
Gary Zimmerman, T
Defenive Linemen

Defensive Linemen
Ray Childress, DT/DE
Fred Dean, DE
Richard Dent, DE
Chris Doleman, DE/LB
Jacob Green, DE
Charles Haley, DE/LB
Jim Jeffcoat, DE
Ed "Too Tall" Jones, DE
Cortez Kennedy, DT
Joe Klecko, DE/DT/NT
Fred Smerlas, NT

Linebackers
Cornelius Bennett
Matt Blair
Robert Brazile
Randy Gradishar
Kevin Greene
Ken Harvey
Rickey Jackson
Levon Kirkland
Wilber Marshall
Clay Matthews
Karl Mecklenburg
Sam Mills
Hardy Nickerson
Pat Swilling
Darryl Talley
Derrick Thomas
Andre Tippett

Defensive Backs
Eric Allen, CB
Steve Atwater, S
Joey Browner, S
LeRoy Butler, S
Raymond Clayborn, CB
Nolan Cromwell, S
Kenny Easley, S
Darrell Green, CB
Lester Hayes, CB
Albert Lewis, CB
Ken Riley, CB
Donnie Shell, S
Louis Wright, CB

Kickers, Punters & Special Teams
Ray Guy, P
Nick Lowery, K
Reggie Roby, P
Elbert Shelley, ST/S
Steve Tasker, ST/WR

Coaches
Don Coryell
Tom Flores
Jimmy Johnson
Chuck Knox
Buddy Parker
Clark Shaughnessy
Ernie Zampese

Contributors
K. S. "Bud" Adams
Gil Brandt
C.O. Brocato
Leo Carlin
Ed DeBartolo, Jr.
Pat Haggerty
Bob Harlan
Jerry Jones
Frank "Bucko" Kilroy
Art McNally
Art Modell
Art Rooney, Jr.
Ed Sabol
Steve Sabol
Paul Tagliabue
Jim Tunney
Ralph Wilson, Jr.
Ron Wolf
George Young


As you can see, they clutter up the process with a WHOLE lot of folks that should never even get a sniff of HoF consideration.

Don Coryell smoked heaters on the sideline so let's put him in.

Danny White?? bwaa ....

Steve and Ed Sabol in the pro fucking football hall of fame??? Baaa hahaha

[BSmack]

As you can see, they clutter up the process with a WHOLE lot of folks that should never even get a sniff of HoF consideration.

Let's start by eliminating all the punters.

Oh? You disagree?

[Felix]

Let's start by eliminating all the punters.

'cept Ray Guy of course.....

[Dinsdale]

There are a couple guys on the defensive side that merit consideration particularly Darrell Green.

Name a feaking entire wing in the HoF for Green.

None of the skill position offensive players belong except maybe Chris Carter.

Roger Craig and Brent Jones aren't bad picks. They kind of set the standards of West Coast offense at their respective positions.

Gary Zimmerman is a solid candidate. 8 All-Pro selections is tough to ignore.

Quack Quack, Motherfuckers.

[poptart]

I agree with your takes on Carter, Green and Zimmerman, mvscal.
I believe all three of them will get in.

Of the 'skill' guys, Andre Reed has a decent chance of getting in.
Roger Craig was a terrific player, but IMO, he falls just a tad short of being a HoFamer.

One of the most intriquing names on that list is our friend Hershel Walker.
That is, if you stop to consider that it IS called the PRO Football Hall of Fame.

8th all-time in all-purpose yards in the NFL.
82 TDs.
Only NFL player ever to have 10,000+ rushing and receiving yards, and 5,000+ combined (punt & KO) return yards.

2-time rushing title winner in the USFL.
League MVP in the USFL.
Most yards gained rushing in a single season in any PRO league -- 2,411 yds gained in the 1985 USFL season - 5.5 yds per attempt.

He was a helluva PRO player.

[BSmack]

Here's my six to make it to the Hall this year.

Cris Carter
Art Monk
Gary Zimmerman
Clay Matthews
Darrell Green
Paul Tagliabue

[Headhunter]

Here my six...

Danny White
Drew Pearson
Jay Novacek
Charles Haley
Jim Jeffcoat
Ed "Too Tall" Jones

[smackaholic]

I agree with your takes on Carter, Green and Zimmerman, mvscal.
I believe all three of them will get in.

Of the 'skill' guys, Andre Reed has a decent chance of getting in.
Roger Craig was a terrific player, but IMO, he falls just a tad short of being a HoFamer.

One of the most intriquing names on that list is our friend Hershel Walker.
That is, if you stop to consider that it IS called the PRO Football Hall of Fame.

8th all-time in all-purpose yards in the NFL.
82 TDs.
Only NFL player ever to have 10,000+ rushing and receiving yards, and 5,000+ combined (punt & KO) return yards.

2-time rushing title winner in the USFL.
League MVP in the USFL.
Most yards gained rushing in a single season in any PRO league -- 2,411 yds gained in the 1985 USFL season - 5.5 yds per attempt.

He was a helluva PRO player.

not to mention him allowing the cowgirls to win three rings by being traded away to the vikes.

[smackaholic]

is too tall still not in? that's pretty fukked up. but not as fukked up as him thinking he'd get over in boxing.

[DamnTheCowboys]

Here my six...

Danny White
Drew Pearson
Jay Novacek
Charles Haley
Jim Jeffcoat
Ed "Too Tall" Jones

They will all get in, as will all the Steelers from the 70s.

Send Peter King to the nearest guillotine.

[Jack]

The NFL HOF's bylaws read simply, ''The only criteria for election is a nominee's achievements and contributions as a player, a coach, or a contributor in professional football.'' What is implicit in the requirement for the football shrine, however, is legitimate performance.


ucant,

Are you old enough to remember watching Joe Namath?
The stats may not be there but he made the AFC, a respectable conference.
BSmack, hit this one on the Head.
"He was Broadway Fucking Joe.

..
Damn, am I agreeing with Goober??

poptart,
Do you remember the Steelers of the 70s??
Lynn Swann was amazing!!!

To me, that whole Steelers team of the 70s belongs in the HOF.
- except maybe Frenchy Fuqua.
(Anyone remember his platform shoes with the goldfish in the heels??

poptart,

Have you ever seen the movie, Brian's Song??
Brief career or not.. He made an impact on the NFL.

He was Rookie of the Year with tremendous potential. The league was young and he was exciting to watch.

In his relatively short career, he compiled a record that can never be forgotten. His totals show 9,435 combined net yards, 4,956 yards rushing, and 336 points scored. At the time of his retirement he was the NFL's all-time leader in kickoff returns. He won All-NFL honors five straight years and was named Offensive Player of the Game in three of the four Pro Bowls in which he played. (C&Pd from http://www.kusports.com/football/nfl/sayers.html)

The man legitamately performed!!

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The NFL HOF just like the MLB HOF could be divided into 2 categories.

Those that made the HOF that were "good enough" to make the HOF and those that are TRUE "LEGENDS" of the game.

IMO,

Broadway Joe was good enough to make the HOF. If you consider the era that he played in. If you were to look back over the last 40 years, he probably wouldn't make my top 20 QBs. BUT, you have to judge the player for how he performed in his era. Joe helped make the NFL what it is today!!

Too bad they had to videotape him when he was obviously pwasted!!





"I want to kiss you,"

"Thanks, Joe. A huge compliment."

btw... Joe nailed her ass that night
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and here are my 6 + 1 Homer Pick.

Joe Theismann
Ken Stabler
Harold Carmichael
Ed "Too Tall" Jones
Richard Dent
Drew Pearson
* Russ Francis -


Others are worthy, that is my quick pick 6 + 1.
(O Lineman realy get the shaft when it comes to STATS and notoriety!)

[smackaholic]

lynn swann was one of the best WRs, evah. If there is any knock on him, it is length of career. But, how the fukk do you blame a guy for being smart enough to say, fukk getting put in a wheel chair by jack tatum, I'm gonna drag my black ass up to the both.

btw, can somebody name me anybody better at holding onto a football while getting his clock cleaned, than lynn? only guy with better hands in the 70s might have been fred biletnikoff, btu, then again he had a 5 gallon bucket of pine tar on his hands.

Can they get away with that shit today?

[Goober McTuber]

Damn, am I agreeing with Goober??

I guess I better rethink my position. And Joe Theesman does not belong in the Hall of Fame, you fucking moron.

btw, can somebody name me anybody better at holding onto a football while getting his clock cleaned, than lynn? only guy with better hands in the 70s might have been fred biletnikoff, btu, then again he had a 5 gallon bucket of pine tar on his hands.

Can they get away with that shit today?

They don't need to. They wear gloves with little suction cups all over them.

[Cuda]

Stabler
Branch
Too-Tall
Gradishar
Atwater
Guy

None of the rest are worthy at this time

[Goober McTuber]

Here's my six to make it to the Hall this year.

Cris Carter
Art Monk
Gary Zimmerman
Clay Matthews
Darrell Green
Paul Tagliabue

Not bad, though I can't believe you left Adrian Peterson off the list.

[OCmike]

Ricky Watters??? C'mon...

[poptart]

poptart,
Do you remember the Steelers of the 70s??
Lynn Swann was amazing!!!

Yeah, he was SO amazing that he made 3 whole pro-bowls in his 9 year career.

poptart,

Have you ever seen the movie, Brian's Song??
Brief career or not.. He made an impact on the NFL.

Sayers played just 4 full seasons.

Brilliant, yes.

I wouldn't have voted him in, but I can understand those who would.

He was one of THE most electrifying players ever to have played in the NFL.

[poptart]

http://www.profootballhof.com/hall/stor ... ry_id=2607

This list will be cut to 15 in January, and then that list will be voted on.


Modern era semi-finalists for Class of 2008
Cris Carter, WR – 1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins
Terrell Davis, RB – 1995-2001 Denver Broncos
Dermontti Dawson, C – 1988-2000 Pittsburgh Steelers
Fred Dean, DE – 1975-1981 San Diego Chargers, 1981-85 San Francisco 49ers
Richard Dent, DE – 1983-1993, 1995 Chicago Bears, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1996 Indianapolis Colts, 1997 Philadelphia Eagles
Randy Gradishar, LB – 1974-1983 Denver Broncos
Darrell Green, CB – 1983-2002 Washington Redskins
Kevin Greene, LB/DE – 1985-1992 Los Angeles Rams, 1993-95 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1996, 1998-99 Carolina Panthers, 1997 San Francisco 49ers
Russ Grimm, G – 1981-1991 Washington Redskins
Ray Guy, P – 1973-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders
Charles Haley, DE/LB – 1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-96 Dallas Cowboys
Lester Hayes, CB – 1977-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders
Rickey Jackson, LB – 1981-1993 New Orleans Saints, 1994-95 San Francisco 49ers
Joe Jacoby, T – 1981-1993 Washington Redskins
Cortez Kennedy, DT – 1990-2000 Seattle Seahawks
Bob Kuechenberg, G – 1970-1984 Miami Dolphins
Randall McDaniel, G – 1988-1999 Minnesota Vikings, 2000-01 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Art Monk, WR – 1980-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 New York Jets, 1995 Philadelphia Eagles
Andre Reed, WR –1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins
Ken Stabler, QB – 1970-79 Oakland Raiders, 1980-81 Houston Oilers, 1982-84 New Orleans Saints
Paul Tagliabue, Commissioner – 1989-2006 National Football League
Steve Tasker, Special Teams/WR – 1985-1986 Houston Oilers, 1986-1997 Buffalo Bills
Derrick Thomas, LB – 1989-1999 Kansas City Chiefs
Andre Tippett, LB – 1982-1993 New England Patriots
George Young, GM/Administrator – 1968-1974 Baltimore Colts, 1975-78 Miami Dolphins, 1979-1997 New York Giants, 1998-2001 National Football League
Gary Zimmerman, T – 1986-1992 Minnesota Vikings, 1993-97 Denver Broncos

[RevLimiter]

Two players who SHOULD be stone cold LOCKS to get in:

Randall McDaniel (11 STRAIGHT Pro Bowls out front validates him)
Art Monk (fucking JOKE that he hasn't gotten in yet)

[Degenerate]

Dermontti Dawson should be a lock but you can never tell with non-left tackle linemen. He and Kent Hull were the two best centers of the last 20 years.

I'd love to see Lester Hayes get in.

[Qbert]

Art Monk
Ray Guy DAMMIT.

(this Post will STICK until it Happens.)

~Sin,

poptart, qbert and those with a frontal Lobe.

i'll add Darrel Green on my own.