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Blind squirrels and acorns…

One of the wags at the local puppy-trainer printed a column worthy of heated debate in this Forum that also just happens to segue nicely with poppy’s Face of Your Franchise thread.

Et el, the best player in each respective NFL franchise’s history. I’d be happy to link it, but since Cheney wasn’t somehow implicated, the Reds at the Star neglected to list it on their Web site. Par.

Blair Kerkoff’s “Best of the Best”:

Chiefs: Bobby Bell (Sure to inspire gun-fights here in the Barbecue Capitol. Len Dawson and Derrick Thomas both make for a compelling argument)
Balt. Colts: Johnny Unitas
Indy Colts: Peyton Manning
Bears: Walter Peyton (I hear Gayle Sayers was pretty good too.)
Bengals: Anthony Munoz
Bills: Bruce Smith (Jim Kelly? Thermal? OJ?)
Broncos: John Elway
Browns: Jim Brown
Bucs: Derrick Brooks
Chargers: Dan Fouts (Sentimental pick: Kellen Winslow…)
Cowboys: Bob Lilly (Say what?! How, ‘bout Roger, Troy, or Emmit?)
Dolphins: Dan Marino (…all those Superbowl wins make this one a no-braner… Oh, wait…)
Eagles: Chuck Bednarik (Suggesting just how bad the Iggles suck in the Modern Day era…)
Falcons: Mike Kenn (Seriously… Who?)
Giants: Lawrence Taylor
Jags: Jimmy Smith
Jets: Joe Namath
Lions: Barry Sanders
LA Rams: Deacon Jones
St. Loser Rams: Marshall Faulk (One could make a VERY good argument for Kurt Warner)
Oilers: Bruce Matthews (Ummm… Ever heard of Earl Cambell)
Packers: Brett Favre (Bart who?)
Patriots: Tom Brady
Raiders: Jim Otto (Are you frickin’ kidding me?! Marcus-freaking-Allen!)
Ravens: Ray Lewis
Saints: Archie Manning (Drew Brees making a case…)
49ers: Jerry Rice (Sumbitch single-handedly carried Montana… )
Seahawks: Steve Largent
Steelers: Joe Greene (Wow. Gotta feeling BSmack might just have a differing opinion. Troy Palumalu comes to mind…)
St. Loser Cards: Larry Wilson
Ariz. Cards: Aeneas Williams
Texans: Andre Johnson
Vikings: Alan Page
Washington (PC fucks, they are the Redskins!): Sammy Baugh (Have fun with this one ‘skinFan)

Truman wrote:Steelers: Joe Greene (Wow. Gotta feeling BSmack might just have a differing opinion. Troy Palumalu comes to mind…)

I'm sure as hell not going to expend any CO2 arguing against Joe Greene as the best Steeler of all time. He was the cornerstone of the dynasty, the guy Chuck Noll personally tabbed to change the culture of losing that pervaded the Steelers teams of the late 60s and the unquestioned leader of the best defense in the history of the game.

Yea, I'd say he qualifies.

BTW: Though I love the way Polamalu plays the game, he isn't even the best Saftey in Steelers history. That would be Carnell Lake. Though he has some time to change my mind about that. And I hope he does.

VERY quick response, as I just have a moment now.
Will get back to it another time.

O.J. is the Bills best, sorry Bruce Smith.
Bob Lilly over Emmitt Smith -- league's all-time rushing leader -- is just plain dumb.
Lady Tomlinson is moving up verrah quickly on the top spot for SD.
No, one can NOT make a good case for C. Warner over M. Faulk in St. Lou -- it's definitely Faulk


KC - Jan Stenerud

:D

Truman wrote:Blind squirrels and acorns…

Chiefs: Bobby Bell (Sure to inspire gun-fights here in the Barbecue Capitol. Len Dawson and Derrick Thomas both make for a compelling argument

Len Dawson or Derrick One-Note, huh? Over Willie Lanier? Are you fucking serious?

I'd ask if you were sure you're a Chiefs fan, but you've got "Kansas City" written all over you.

Truman wrote: Bengals: Anthony Munoz

I'd agree with that, although I hope in another decade the case can be made for Carson Palmer.

mvscal wrote:

poptart wrote:No, one can NOT make a good case for C. Warner over M. Faulk in St. Lou -- it's definitely Faulk

Ummm...Jack Youngblood? Deacon Jones? Elroy Hirsch?

Jack Youngblood should have INFINITE 'BODE....and you can't argue with Deacon either. Eric Dickerson thinx ^^^^that is WHACK.

BROWNS....Jim BROWN....fine....Otto Graham, Marion Motley, Lou "The TOE"......Charley Frye.......OK--->Jim Brown!

mvscal wrote:

poptart wrote:No, one can NOT make a good case for C. Warner over M. Faulk in St. Lou -- it's definitely Faulk

Ummm...Jack Youngblood? Deacon Jones? Elroy Hirsch?

Look again and you'll see that there are two categories.

St Louis Rams
L.A. Rams

Degenerate wrote:Len Dawson or Derrick One-Note, huh? Over Willie Lanier? Are you fucking serious?

Dawson threw for over 28,000 yards for the red and gold, and Thomas simply possessed the rare ability to single-handedly change the outcome of games. Not surprising that understanding such trivial nuances of the game are well beyond your capabilities...

I'd ask if you were sure you're a Chiefs fan, but you've got "Kansas City" written all over you.

[rhetorical]What the hell does ChickenhawkFan remotely know about anything regarding football period?[/rhetorical]

Truman wrote: Eagles: Chuck Bednarik (Suggesting just how bad the Iggles suck in the Modern Day era…)

Reggie White?
Even Randall Cunninham had a bigger impact on the NFL and the Eagles than Concrete Charlie.

What a shitty columnist.

jiminphilly wrote:Reggie White?

The second-most overrated player in history.

Line my freaking grandmother up next to the guys Reggie played with throughout his career, and she would do almost as well as Reggie White.

Every time I heard Reggie's cock getting sucked by the media and ignorant fans, I would cringe at how insulting it was to the guys who were getting doube-teamed every play, enabling Reggie to often get in the backfield unblocked...

Which the jackass rarely if ever gave his teammates any credit for, which was one of the defining traits of his career.

But boy, he sure looked like a hero, busting off those swim-moves... against a running back, since everyone else was too busy blocking the good passrushers that Reggie ALWAYS had lined up next to him. Hell, his big year in GB, when he won the defensive player award, he was the 4th best D-lineman on the team.

I never understood all of the adulation for the guy. Biggest self-propper this side of Vance Johnson, never gave his teammates proper credit, and to top it all off, used a self-created pulpit to decide the he, not God, was the one who should pass judgement. Then there's the accusations that he used his "ministry" to procure chicks with which to cheat on his wife.

Oh, that's right -- the media told everyone that he was a great guy... must be true. Not that I care, but this seems to be how everyone wants to judge his football accomplishments -- "He was a great guy, or so says the media, so he must have been a great player." Not "damn, that two-faced, hate-filled douchebag sure is good at gravytraining the other players on his team and taking all the credit for it."

The guy was everything a player shouldn't be.

He was a fucking dickweed, and if he was half as good as everyone made him out to be, they would have changed the name of the game from "football" to "Reggieball."

mvscal wrote:a well below average outside linebacker.

He wasn't a linebacker. He played "falconback."

Sin,
Loser McSchottenheimer

mvscal wrote:

Dinsdale wrote:

jiminphilly wrote:Reggie White?

The second-most overrated player in history.

Idiot.

Should I have made him #1?

mvscal wrote:Just as often negatively. Thomas was a totally one dimensional player. He couldn't play the run at all and was completely lost in coverage which is a combination that makes for a well below average outside linebacker.

...Yet the Chiefs managed to win 110 games anyway over the course his career.

Just as often? Not so much.

126.5 career sacks out front shoulda told ya.

Dinsdale wrote:

jiminphilly wrote:Reggie White?

The second-most overrated player in history.

Line my freaking grandmother up next to the guys Reggie played with throughout his career, and she would do almost as well as Reggie White.

Every time I heard Reggie's cock getting sucked by the media and ignorant fans, I would cringe at how insulting it was to the guys who were getting doube-teamed every play, enabling Reggie to often get in the backfield unblocked...

Reggie was the one getting doubled-teamed in Philly not the other way around.. but please continue..

Which the jackass rarely if ever gave his teammates any credit for, which was one of the defining traits of his career.

What the hell do you know? I doubt you rarely saw his games in Philly nor did read much of the local print that quoted him...

But boy, he sure looked like a hero, busting off those swim-moves... against a running back, since everyone else was too busy blocking the good passrushers that Reggie ALWAYS had lined up next to him. Hell, his big year in GB, when he won the defensive player award, he was the 4th best D-lineman on the team.

And in Philly where he put up his best numbers next to guys like Clyde Simmons, Mike Golic and Jerome Brown? but please continue...

used a self-created pulpit to decide the he, not God, was the one who should pass judgement. Then there's the accusations that he used his "ministry" to procure chicks with which to cheat on his wife.

all of which has nothing to do with how good a defensive end he was.. but please go on...

Oh, that's right -- the media told everyone that he was a great guy... must be true. Not that I care, but this seems to be how everyone wants to judge his football accomplishments -- "He was a great guy, or so says the media, so he must have been a great player." Not "damn, that two-faced, hate-filled douchebag sure is good at gravytraining the other players on his team and taking all the credit for it."

you've pretty much been saying the same fucking thing for 3 paragraphs now. Got anything else?

The guy was everything a player shouldn't be.

Relentess, fast, powerful, dominating.. yeah I guess so..

He was a fucking dickweed, and if he was half as good as everyone made him out to be, they would have changed the name of the game from "football" to "Reggieball."

Color me shocked.. an athlete who was arrogant. You mean they really exist Dins? Really?

Dins has a hard-on for Reggie White.
He's thinking w/his cock.

Just looking at White from a strictly on-filed P.O.V., he was definitely a hall of fame caliber player.


And Dinsy is a hall of fame message boarder.