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the worse weis coaches, the better he recruits?
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:55 pm
by M Club
something to think about: weis has a killer recruiting class coming in from what i've read here [uh.. i don't frequent nd news otherwise]. how? and is this class any better than the two or three he's recruited so far, b/c they've obviously paid dividends for navy.
i wonder if notre dame's so bad now that it actually benefits their recruiting. even i can gain 300 lbs and heave myself on someone's couch to tell them all my players suck, so obviously you'll get four years of quality playing time on a team that traditionally rebuilds in front of 4 billion ppl on its own telly network, not to mention the faux-accolades that come from racking up numbers against midgets.
Re: the worse weis coaches, the better he recruits?
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:04 pm
by Killian
M Club wrote:something to think about: weis has a killer recruiting class coming in from what i've read here [uh.. i don't frequent nd news otherwise]. how? and is this class any better than the two or three he's recruited so far, b/c they've obviously paid dividends for navy.
i wonder if notre dame's so bad now that it actually benefits their recruiting. even i can gain 300 lbs and heave myself on someone's couch to tell them all my players suck, so obviously you'll get four years of quality playing time on a team that traditionally rebuilds in front of 4 billion ppl on its own telly network, not to mention the faux-accolades that come from racking up numbers against midgets.
Most of this class was committed before the season started. The two commitments they have picked up during the season (Michael Floyd and Jonas Gray) were from kids that go to a traditional ND feeder school (Floyd) and another that stated ND was his number one choice before the season started, but didn't get an offer (Gray).
It's better than the other two classes he has recruited thus far based on rankings (#1 compared to two #8 classes), but in reality it is better because the ammount of players they are bringing in on the defensive side of the ball. Many of those players are high impact kids (Ethan Johnson, Omar Hunter, Anthony McDonald, Steven Filer, Robert Blanton, etc.).
His first two full classes are now sophs and freshmen. If you were to look at the depth chart, his players are either starting or back-ups at every position. The double edged sword in that is that while they may be talented, they are being relied upon much too early in their careers. It doesn't excuse 1-8, or explain why they are struggling so badly, but it's no shock that they are struggling.
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:12 pm
by Danimal
Some decommits wouldn't surprise me. This season has opened the door to a lot of negative-recruiting, and you can bet the opposition will plumb that for all it's worth. But the "you can play right away" line can work, BC used it well during his 5-6 inital season to bring-in what was at the time considered a killer class. What will be interesting is seeing how Weise does next year. Even with his ridiculous buyout there could be doubts about his future, I see recruits having more of a "wait and see" approach.
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:36 pm
by Dinsdale
Dumb enough to buy into Catholicism, dumb enough to fall for Weis' schtick.
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:10 am
by TheChief
Dinsdale wrote:Dumb enough to buy into Catholicism, dumb enough to fall for Weis' schtick.
Huh?
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:16 am
by Dinsdale
TheChief wrote:Dinsdale wrote:Dumb enough to buy into Catholicism, dumb enough to fall for Weis' schtick.
Huh?
I was making wiseassed cracks on others' religion, which is thoroughly inappropriate for this forum.
My apologies.
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:34 am
by TheChief
Apology accepted man. I'm Catholic, so I was just curious where you were going with that.
Sticking to College Football is a good idea....there are plenty of other message boards out there for religion smack.
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:38 am
by Dinsdale
Now if Notre Dame were to ever play Oregon...
All bets are off, and the altarboy smack will flow like wine.
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:18 am
by Qbert
Believe the Heupel wrote:Heh.
There's a Mack Brown joke in here somewhere, but I don't want to make it.
No..well...; that's a BUFFET, cholesterol, Lipitor, Liposuction, Gastro-Bypass, snausage and MORE snausage JOKE that you don't want to make.
c'mon IGLOO Boy...add?
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:58 am
by Terry in Crapchester
Danimal wrote:What will be interesting is seeing how Weise does next year. Even with his ridiculous buyout there could be doubts about his future, I see recruits having more of a "wait and see" approach.
I don't know all the details about Weis' contract. I do know there is a buyout provision, but I don't know how much money is involved. Absent the buyout, Weis' contract still has seven years to run, so it's not unreasonable to think that the buyout provision got a little more expensive with the extension. But money won't be the issue if ND decides to exercise it.
Dinsdale wrote:Now if Notre Dame were to ever play Oregon...
ND has played Oregon within my memory. 1982, to be precise. I was a freshman at ND, you likely were still in high school.
The game was at Autzen and ended in a tie.
A month later, I came home over Thanksgiving and ran into my high school vice-principal. The first thing he said to me was, [heavy Brooklyn accent]"How could you tie a team called DA DUCKS?"[/heavy Brooklyn accent]
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:28 pm
by M Club
Believe the Heupel wrote:Nah. "Charlie Weis is fat" jokes lost their charm after about the first hundred.
i don't care how many times you call him fat, this shirt's still funny:

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:55 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
Back on topic, an interesting article on this very subject from today's Yahoo sports:
Still a Weis Guy
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:50 pm
by Bucmonkey
LOL Dins...somewhat sincere...