The Civil War

socal · Post by **socal** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:52 am

in about 4:20

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:49 am

1.3 mil total dead? Those casualty numbers seem a bit high. Are they counting scrapes and bruises?

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:24 pm

Websense wrote:Your organization's Internet use policy restricts access to this web page at this time.

Is this the pron version or something?

Guess I'll have to watch it at home. Control over that network belongs to me.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:22 pm

I'm also a websense casualty.

RumpleForeskin · Post by **RumpleForeskin** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:33 pm

That Civil War game on the original Nintendo was nails.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:33 pm

That was quite good.

The part about you morons murdering each other, that is. When does Part Two start?

Imus · Post by **Imus** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:53 pm

Martyred wrote:That was quite good.

The part about you morons murdering each other, that is. When does Part Two start?

When the US decides to make Qanada the 51st state. Except the casualty list is going to be Way lop sided, canuk heavy.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:31 pm

mvscal wrote:
Mister Bushice wrote:1.3 mil total dead? Those casualty numbers seem a bit high. Are they counting scrapes and bruises?
Casualty means killed, wounded and captured/missing.

Not any more. You'll notice how artfully the Bush Administration avoids publishing any number but the dead. Adding the number of wounded - a lot of them brain injuries and amputees - would dwarf the number of dead, and make him really look bad.

The actual dead civil war figures were more like 200 K KIA, and another 400 from lack of proper medical care, and disease.

I remember seeing those Civil war era medical instruments in a museum in DC when I was young. They reminded me of my grandfathers farm tools.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:48 pm

Mister Bushice wrote:The actual dead civil war figures were more like 200 K KIA, and another 400 from lack of proper medical care, and disease.

I remember seeing those Civil war era medical instruments in a museum in DC when I was young. They reminded me of my grandfathers farm tools.

To paraphrase Bruce Catton a little, the Civil War was a perfect killing storm in the sense that battlefield technology has advanced far beyond the muskets of the Napoleonic Era, but the tactics and medicine employed throughout the war were not nearly as advanced. Looking back nearly 145 years later, it boggles the mind that so many commanders repeated the mistake of employing full frontal assaults on heavily fortified positions over and over again, particularly the Union generals, who should have understood and used their strategic advantages to far greater effect.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:53 pm

BSmack wrote:
Mister Bushice wrote:The actual dead civil war figures were more like 200 K KIA, and another 400 from lack of proper medical care, and disease.

I remember seeing those Civil war era medical instruments in a museum in DC when I was young. They reminded me of my grandfathers farm tools.
To paraphrase Bruce Catton a little, the Civil War was a perfect killing storm in the sense that battlefield technology has advanced far beyond the muskets of the Napoleonic Era, but the tactics and medicine employed throughout the war were not nearly as advanced. Looking back nearly 145 years later, it boggles the mind that so many commanders repeated the mistake of employing full frontal assaults on heavily fortified positions over and over again, particularly the Union generals, who should have understood and used their strategic advantages to far greater effect.

If they had only realized that they could use contractors for logistical support their manpower advantage would have been overwhelming.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:10 pm

Mikey wrote:If they had only realized that they could use contractors for logistical support their manpower advantage would have been overwhelming.

You mean like a "cakewalk"?

At the very least, the war would have paid for itself.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:22 pm

In reality very few actually got caught up in it.

Pretty damn funny that rich people would be attending a war like it was a horse race, though.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:49 pm

mvscal wrote:A Congressman from New York was captured and ended up spending a couple months in prison.

Ah, the good old days.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:20 pm

mvscal wrote:
Mister Bushice wrote:In reality very few actually got caught up in it.
Not true. It was a total jugfuck. There are plenty of accounts of panicked civilians abandoning their wagons and carriages. A Congressman from New York was captured and ended up spending a couple months in prison.

He was stupid and deserved it. He admitted to being a congressmen when asked who he was.

Most of the people who were panicked, dropping gear and running were the Union soldiers.

peter dragon · Post by **peter dragon** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:04 am

RumpleForeskin wrote:That Civil War game on the original Nintendo was nails.

what was the name of that game?