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The final poll is SO FUCKED I don't even know where to begin. :brad:

Looks about right to me, except that WVU and KU should be ahead of tOSU. Mizzoufan loving that #4.

4 big 12 in top 10


expect MU,OU, to be top 5 going into next years poll, with UT and KU right behind.


KU finally has to play a schedule and faces UT,OU,TT,and MU

MU get Okie light, UT in austin, and KU in KC. With illinois to start the season! Pending what OU does vs Tejas, looks like another OU-MU title game in KC. But who knows, its easy to have 1 magical season, the trick is to sustain that magic. i'm from missouri, so Pinkel,"Show Me"

It's a little early to talk about next year but I love the new hire for Texas at DC. Will Muschamp is going to do wonders for our defense next year.

Our offense has questions galore and we still stand the possibility of losing Quan to the NFL draft. We already lost Charles and J-Mike Finley.

Florida is way too high. SEC media bias.

Steve,

I partly agree with you, but if you look at it from the stand point of who behind them would beat them, it's not so screwed up. Yes, UofM beat them, but they are still being punished for the Appy St. loss. Auburn beat them, so they may have a gripe. Other than that, they're about where they should be.

Killian wrote:Steve,

I partly agree with you, but if you look at it from the stand point of who behind them would beat them, it's not so screwed up. Yes, UofM beat them, but they are still being punished for the Appy St. loss. Auburn beat them, so they may have a gripe. Other than that, they're about where they should be.

I agree that is what is happening with Michigan......but why in the hell is USC continuing to get a free pass for their Stanford loss?????? Easily the worst loss amongst the top ten......and it's not close. Yet like I've said everybody just seems okey-dokey with that horrific defeat. I will never understand that.

Hawaii should have dropped to, oh, about 30.

Sudden Sam wrote:

Mikey wrote:Hawaii should have dropped to, oh, about 30.

They never deserved being ranked at all.

At 12-0 they had to be ranked, no matter what you think of their schedule.

Adelpiero wrote:4 big 12 in top 10


expect MU,OU, to be top 5 going into next years poll, with UT and KU right behind.


KU finally has to play a schedule and faces UT,OU,TT,and MU

MU get Okie light, UT in austin, and KU in KC. With illinois to start the season! Pending what OU does vs Tejas, looks like another OU-MU title game in KC. But who knows, its easy to have 1 magical season, the trick is to sustain that magic. i'm from missouri, so Pinkel,"Show Me"

I get it, NU doesn't deserve repect after that aboration of a coaching staff that is still thumbing a ride somewhere on I-80 near Kearney at last report.

However NU gets MU and KU in dear ol' Lincoln next fall and that guy coaching the Chinese Bandits last night will be standing on our sideline and that F*cker Cosgrove will be spanking it in a truck stop bar and grill. He was personnally responsible for putting MU and KU in the North's drivers seat. You'll miss him.

Michigan is ranked ahead of Oregon and Wisky who rolled us, yet behing UF and Illinois who we beat.

Polls are bullshit.

edit....my bad about Illinois. Polls still suck though.

Mook wrote:

Killian wrote:Steve,

I partly agree with you, but if you look at it from the stand point of who behind them would beat them, it's not so screwed up. Yes, UofM beat them, but they are still being punished for the Appy St. loss. Auburn beat them, so they may have a gripe. Other than that, they're about where they should be.

I agree that is what is happening with Michigan......but why in the hell is USC continuing to get a free pass for their Stanford loss?????? Easily the worst loss amongst the top ten......and it's not close. Yet like I've said everybody just seems okey-dokey with that horrific defeat. I will never understand that.

Easiest answer is that a lot of writers are lazy and put little to no thought into their reasoning. The other answer is that USC was injured when they lost to Stanford (who was still in 1A) where as UofM was healthy when they lost to Appy St. (who was 1AA).

WolverineSteve wrote:Michigan is ranked ahead of Oregon and Wisky who rolled us, yet behing UF and Illinois who we beat.

Polls are bullshit.

edit....my bad about Illinois. Polls still suck though.

Yeah, I'm going to have to call bullshit on that. I could see it, after Dixon's injury, if Oregon continued to suck, and if Michigan finished on a roll but given the way both teams finished, anybody that voted Mich ahead of Oregon needs to lose voting priviliages.

Oregon beats Mich by 30+, at Michigan, early in the year.

Oregon loses final 3 regular season games and then beats South Florida by 35 in their bowl game.
Michigan loses final 2 regular regular season games, then beats Florida in their bowl game.

Both Oregon and Michigan finish with the same record.

Quality (ranked)wins:

Oregon: #17 Michigan, #3 USC, #14 Arizona State

Michigan: #20 Illinois, #13 Florida

Seriously racking my brain here trying to come up with a way that any rational person could vote Michigan ahead of Oregon at the end of this season.

Adelpiero wrote:4 big 12 in top 10


expect MU,OU, to be top 5 going into next years poll, with UT and KU right behind.


KU finally has to play a schedule and faces UT,OU,TT,and MU

MU get Okie light, UT in austin, and KU in KC. With illinois to start the season! Pending what OU does vs Tejas, looks like another OU-MU title game in KC. But who knows, its easy to have 1 magical season, the trick is to sustain that magic. i'm from missouri, so Pinkel,"Show Me"

Mizzou playing in Arrowhead TWO WEEKS IN A ROW next season will not suck at all. :wink:

RevLimiter wrote: Mizzou playing in Arrowhead TWO WEEKS IN A ROW next season will not suck at all. :wink:

Hopefully they have better luck in that scenario than the Chefs.

Killian wrote:

Mook wrote:

Killian wrote:Steve,

I partly agree with you, but if you look at it from the stand point of who behind them would beat them, it's not so screwed up. Yes, UofM beat them, but they are still being punished for the Appy St. loss. Auburn beat them, so they may have a gripe. Other than that, they're about where they should be.

I agree that is what is happening with Michigan......but why in the hell is USC continuing to get a free pass for their Stanford loss?????? Easily the worst loss amongst the top ten......and it's not close. Yet like I've said everybody just seems okey-dokey with that horrific defeat. I will never understand that.

Easiest answer is that a lot of writers are lazy and put little to no thought into their reasoning. The other answer is that USC was injured when they lost to Stanford (who was still in 1A) where as UofM was healthy when they lost to Appy St. (who was 1AA).

I know everybody is saying USC was suffering from injuries in this game but everybody conveniently forgets that Stanford's starting QB also had to miss the game.......I'd assume that means Stanford had injury problems as well.

USC gets a free pass because they're USC and I get it............but it isn't right. The Stanford loss is damn near as bad as losing to Appy State.

It’s worse. Appalachian State would easily beat Stanford.

Think LSU will accept the AP title and trophy after discounting it for 5 years?

JayDuck wrote:Seriously racking my brain here trying to come up with a way that any rational person could vote Michigan ahead of Oregon at the end of this season.

b/c teams who perennially finish in the top 25 probably don't see a difference between being ranked 16th or 19th. it's mizzou fans who are all, whoot! #4! yeah!

it's funny how all of us talk about how bullshit the system and rankings are but continue to buy into it. if it's such a farce then why get so upset? this year's champion was decided by fiat. it's legitimated only b/c lsu as #1 is taken for granted in our discussions.

and by legitimated i mean i confused legitimized and validated. whoops. lsu #1, yo.

Actually, you confused "legitimized" with "legitimated"... but who's counting?

or i confused "football" with "playoff," but i went to a mac school, so no one even knows how to count in the first place.

M Club wrote:i went to a mac school, so no one even knows how to count in the first place.

If you were awarded a passing grade regardless, we'd like to interview your professors for potential empoyment.


Sin,
SEC

^^^^^^^^^^^^

i see you let lardspray in here.

Which of the Southern Excrementitious Conference teams is Papa a fan of? Normally you dont see conference smack unless the smacker is insecure with the team they supports accomplishments so they hide behind the collective accomplishments of the conference to justify their pitiful and worthless being
Willie a Vanderbilt fan? Id be willing to wager that he is not an LSU fan but thinks that LSUs triumph over OSU some how equates to his life being less putrid than it really is. Honestly Willie, eat that last fat filled chitlin, wash it down with gravy and crawl back in to whatever hole you hatched from and cease being. No one will miss you

You and Buttsy make a lovely couple.

Believe the Heupel wrote:
I'm starting to lean to the side of Stoops needing to do the same to Venables.

even though he lives up the street from my pops, i'm starting to agree. though it's also fair to put some of it on Bobby. when teams spread the field, we suck. the Tech game is a perfect example. we dictate the game with pressure the first couple series and then we get on our heels....and they get TD happy in space.

no head coaching job for Venables, in my book. and he's no Merv Johnson though all of the Sooners here are too young to know much about Merv coaching for Switzer..

by the same token, did you see all the scoring in the bowl games....winning teams are hanging half a hunnerd or close. maybe that's the trend, and hot for TV no doubt.

Papa Willie wrote:

SoCalTrjn wrote:Which of the Southern Excrementitious Conference teams is Papa a fan of? Normally you dont see conference smack unless the smacker is insecure with the team they supports accomplishments so they hide behind the collective accomplishments of the conference to justify their pitiful and worthless being
Willie a Vanderbilt fan? Id be willing to wager that he is not an LSU fan but thinks that LSUs triumph over OSU some how equates to his life being less putrid than it really is. Honestly Willie, eat that last fat filled chitlin, wash it down with gravy and crawl back in to whatever hole you hatched from and cease being. No one will miss you

SEC is 63-38-7 against the Pac 10. Don't know who you are, but you're obviously dumber than a sack of shit stuck in Petey Carroll's mangled shitter.

Get facts correct before weeping.

Adelpifaggo - how long will it take before you melt down again like that night you did in the chatroom? That's still the funniest emotional outburst I've ever seen from any poster. You still going to get a 12 gauge and "blow my head off"?

Know your place in line, you silly cunt.

God your a loser. Please do everyone, including your wife a favor and off yourself.

I was never in chat. Hey dummy, people use others nicks all the time in those rooms, tell me you knew?

but your threats via pm's were classic. OR when you thought my mother had died and went the dead mother smack. Your a no trick pony, who's life clearly revolves around these boards. Your obsession with everyone on this and other boards is sick, no, it's loserish. Congrats.

We all know how much of a dickhead you are, you won't be around long. You'll go the way of babs, m200l, etc, tards who have been run.

Did Willie ever say what SEC team he was a fan of? Was i correct in knowing that morally bankrupt pile of shit was not an LSU fan.

I give a fuck about the rest of the conference the school I went to plays in. USC owns those fuckin inbred pussies of the SEC and has probably kicked the shit out of Willies team recently to stir the shit between his ears. (willie an arkiesaw fan?)

USC is 17-10 vs the SEC and hasnt lost a game to one of those fuckin pussies in over 20 years.
USC is 30-16 in Bowl games a better winning percentage than any SEC team

You see Willie, I dont have to hide behind conference arguements because the accomplishments of the school I went to stacks up to any other schools accomplishments and I can give 2 shits about the collective PAC 10


However, when you look at the schools with the most National Titles
1. UCLA: 100
2. Stanford: 94
3. Southern California: 85
4. Oklahoma State: 48
5. Arkansas: 41
6. LSU: 40
7. Texas: 39
8. Michigan: 32
9. North Carolina: 32
10. Penn State: 32

or if you only want to look at Mens sports
1. Southern California: 73
2. UCLA: 70
3. Stanford: 58
4. Oklahoma State: 48
5. Arkansas: 41
6. Michigan: 30
7. Yale: 25
8. California: 23
9. Indiana: 23
10. Iowa: 21
10. UTEP: 21
10. Wisconsin: 21

No other conference comes close

SoCalTrjn wrote: However, when you look at the schools with the most National Titles
8. Michigan: 32

or if you only want to look at Mens sports
6. Michigan: 30

that field hockey team was super hot. the softball team: not so much.

Wow, Toejam. Just...wow. In one fell swoop your take went from "I don't care about the rest of the Pac 10" to "The Pac 10 owns, bitches!"

Nice job thinking that one through, Shakespeare.

It's nice to see that when the numbers work against your bottom line you "don't give 2 shits." But if you can find a way to (not so cleverly) skew the debate in your favor, then you're tossing numbers out left and right.

I guess every once in awhile you gotta remind the board why it was you took home the hardware.

see, no one but West coast tard counts mens volleyball, snorkeling, badminton, horse shoes,water polo, hackey sacking, pocket pool.

take those out, and how many titles has ucla and usc won

"There's not a better conference offensively anywhere in the country than the Big 12 this year," Venables said. the Big East, you know

Wow, I never thought of it that way.

Papa Willie wrote:Why don't you pussies come and play in the SEC?

I'm an Auburn fan.

This isn't going to end well for you.

Sin,

0-23

Auburn has played a rock solid TWO road games vs major conference teams within the last 10 years. They lost both times.

You guys aren't so tough when you board a plane...every decade or so.

Willie has thrown down the gauntlet in the '08 board-bitch contest!

Way to take the lead Willie, talk that shit.

Ahhh, now I see where bitterness comes from
Sorted by Number

Recognized Major College Football titles

1. Princeton (NJ) 24
2. Yale (CT) 19
3. Notre Dame (IN) 12
4. Alabama 11
5. Harvard (MA) 10
5. Southern California 10
7. Michigan 7
7. Oklahoma 7
9. Minnesota 6
9. Pittsburgh (PA) 6
11. Miami (FL) 5
11. Nebraska 5
11. Ohio St. 5
14. Army (NY) 4
14. Georgia Tech 4
14. Illinois 4
14. Pennsylvania 4
14. Tennessee 4
14. Texas 4
20. California 3
20. Louisiana St. 3
20. Michigan St. 3
20. Cornell (NY) 2
20. Florida 2
20. Florida St. 2
20. Georgia 2
20. Maryland 2
20. Penn St. 2
20.Texas A&M 2
30. Arkansas 1
30. Auburn (AL) 1
30. Brigham Young (UT) 1
30. Chicago (IL) 1
30. Clemson (SC) 1
30 Colorado 1
30. Dartmouth (NH) 1
30. Lafayette (PA) 1
30. Mississippi 1
30. Southern Methodist (TX) 1
30. Stanford (CA) 1
30. Syracuse (NY) 1
30. Texas Christian 1
30. UCLA 1
30. Washington 1



Hooray for you, your team ranks 30th, behind 2 Pac 10 teams and tied with 3 others.... Auburn is a mid pack Pac 10 team?


Im supposed to know who shutyomouth is? are you some dort of legend for being a loud mouth on these boards?

I get it, shutyomouth is the pathetic welp whos team can not stand on their own individual merits so he goes around spewing some sort of conference bullshit.

when you look at the total amount of titles, it would seem that the IVY league fans have scoreboard, Princeton has as many titles as the SEC or Pac 10 teams have combined to win

Papa Willie wrote:

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Auburn has played a rock solid TWO road games vs major conference teams within the last 10 years. They lost both times.

You guys aren't so tough when you board a plane...every decade or so.

Who's your team again? Again - we play in the SEC. That's far more of a test than going on the road and playing a pussy Big 10 Team. :D

http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/rec ... eam=Auburn" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Looks to me like we've got a winning record against all other conferences. Sorry you spoke out of line.

Auburn is 5-3 vs the Pac 10 BUT they are 0-2 in games played vs the Pac 10 on the road (wasnt the point Mgo was making that Auburn isnt shit when they board a plane?)

Auburn has only ever played 1 game in a Big 10 stadium, a tie with Wisconsin

Vs the Big 12 Auburn is 11-15 (isnt that a losing record?) they have played at Texas 5 times and lost 4 of them, they were 0-1 @ Nebraska, 0-1 at Tamu and 1-0 @ Kansas St but in Big 12 stadiums, Auburn is 2-6.
2-8 on the road vs the Pac and the Big 12, the amazing part is that in 116 years, Auburn has only had the balls to play 11 games on the road vs Big 12, Big 10 and Pac 10 teams. Congrats, by the way, for that 12-0 mark vs the Sun Belt (with every game at home) that's no easy feat.

Adelpiero wrote:see, no one but West coast tard counts mens volleyball, snorkeling, badminton, horse shoes,water polo, hackey sacking, pocket pool.

take those out, and how many titles has ucla and usc won

Breakdown by Sport:
USC: 73
men's baseball: 12
men's gymnastics: 1
men's swimming & diving: 9
men's tennis: 16
men's indoor track & field: 2
men's outdoor track & field: 26
men's volleyball: 4
men's water polo: 3


Breakdown by Sport:
Missouri : 2
men's baseball: 1
men's indoor track & field: 1

Papa Willie wrote: Rack!

Breakdown by Sport:
Auburn: 7
men's swimming & diving: 7

you we're saying?

http://www.ncaa.org/champadmin/champs_listing1.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The NCAA counts those titles and those Tards are based in Indiana which seems to be much closer to Missouri and Alabama than the West Coast

Take away Water Polo and Volleyball, hell if you counted JUST USCs baseball titles, they are still ahead of Missouri and Auburn combined for ALL SPORTS

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Wow, Toejam. Just...wow. In one fell swoop your take went from "I don't care about the rest of the Pac 10" to "The Pac 10 owns, bitches!"

Nice job thinking that one through, Shakespeare.

It's nice to see that when the numbers work against your bottom line you "don't give 2 shits." But if you can find a way to (not so cleverly) skew the debate in your favor, then you're tossing numbers out left and right.

I guess every once in awhile you gotta remind the board why it was you took home the hardware.

Note the "However" that was in that post before the list of national titles was posted

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myself wrote:However, when you look at the schools with the most National Titles
1. UCLA: 100
2. Stanford: 94
3. Southern California: 85
4. Oklahoma State: 48
5. Arkansas: 41
6. LSU: 40
7. Texas: 39
8. Michigan: 32
9. North Carolina: 32
10. Penn State: 32

or if you only want to look at Mens sports
1. Southern California: 73
2. UCLA: 70
3. Stanford: 58
4. Oklahoma State: 48
5. Arkansas: 41
6. Michigan: 30
7. Yale: 25
8. California: 23
9. Indiana: 23
10. Iowa: 21
10. UTEP: 21
10. Wisconsin: 21