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Looks like Plus 1 is beginning to pick up a little support

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:13 pm
by Vito Corleone
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New BCS coordinator says officials will do a "thorough" evaluation of plus-one format

By RALPH D. RUSSO, AP College Football Writer
January 7, 2008

NEW ORLEANS (AP) -- BCS officials are going to have some serious discussions in the upcoming months about going to a plus-one format, which could create a four-team major college football playoff.

Atlantic Coast Conference commissioner John Swofford, the new coordinator of the Bowl Championship Series, said Monday he intends to lead a "thorough" evaluation of the plus-one format. The BCS must determine in the next nine to 12 months what format it will use for the 2010 season (2011 bowls) so it can negotiate a new television deal.

Swofford takes over this year for Southeastern Conference commissioner Mike Slive as the public face of the BCS.

Swofford and Slive, speaking to the Football Writers Association of America, said there was increased support among conference commissioners and university presidents for having serious discussions about the plus-one, which would set the national championship game matchup after the Rose, Orange, Sugar and Fiesta bowls have been played.

Top-ranked Ohio State and No. 2 LSU were to play in the BCS national championship Monday night.

Big East commissioner Mike Tranghese and Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe have also said they'd like to look deeper into a plus-one.

Big Ten commissioners Jim Delany and Pac-10 commissioner Tom Hansen have said the university presidents they work for are opposed to moving the BCS to a plus-one, in part because it could make the Rose Bowl less attractive.

The Big Ten and Pac-10 have a contractual relationship with the Rose Bowl.

"Not withstanding that opposition, we will continue to discuss and evaluate the plus-one or formats of interest brought by others that come to the table," Slive said. "Fully understanding that in the final analysis that it comes down to each conference deciding what format it prefers."

Commissioners from all 11 major college football conferences will meet in Miami in April and the plus-one will be a topic.

"I think we would be remiss if we didn't have that discussion in full and play it out and see what the ramifications of it are in great detail," Swofford said. "To see if there are unintended consequences there. What are the pluses, what are the minuses? Really drill into it so we can have the right kind of information.

"Evaluate it in a thorough way and ultimately make a decision. You don't know unless you have that discussion."

Both Swofford and Slive said if a plus-one was adopted, they would support seeding the top four teams after the regular season and playing No. 1 vs. No. 4 and No. 2 vs. No. 3 in bowl games, essentially creating two national semifinals.

Rose Bowl officials have said they are wary of any change to the BCS that would lessen the significance of their game or make it more difficult for them to line up the their traditional Big Ten-Pac-10 matchup.

"That's a definite hurdle," Swofford said. "I don't know if it's the biggest, but it's significant."

The winner of the semifinals would play a week later in the BCS national championship game.

Had such a format been used this season, it still would have left several teams -- including Georgia and Southern California -- with a good case to be playing for a national title out of the mix.

Ohio State would have played No. 4 Oklahoma in one game and LSU would have played Virginia Tech in the 2-3 game. Both Virginia Tech and Oklahoma lost their bowl games.

Georgia and USC finished fifth and seventh in the BCS standings, but had impressive victories in their bowl games.

Currently, the BCS championship game matches the top two teams, using a combination of poll rankings and computer ratings, after the regular season. The other four BCS bowl matchups are made with no regard to pairing the remaining highest ranked teams.

The BCS is in the middle of a four-year, $320 million contract with Fox that runs through the 2009 season and 2010 bowls. The BCS will begin negotiating with Fox on another deal in the fall. Fox has exclusive negotiating rights with the BCS.

Chuck Gerber, executive vice president of college sports for ABC and ESPN, said if the BCS opens negotiations, ABC would be interested in reacquiring the television rights to the BCS.

ABC had the BCS until the 2006 bowls.

ABC still has the rights to the Rose Bowl, a deal that runs through 2014. Gerber said ABC's deal with the Rose Bowl would not stand in the way of the BCS changing to a plus-one.

"If the Rose Bowl wants to do this, we'll make it work," he said.

That's a big "if."

Re: Looks like Plus 1 is beginning to pick up a little support

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:30 pm
by Killian
My biggest thing is that this is akin to applying a band aid to an axe wound. What the fuck would a plus one accomplish? It's still not a play off, no matter how much people want to think it is. For example, who would get to play LSU this year? USC? Georgia? Kansas? Missouri? WVU?

Let's take a year like last season. UF destroys OSU, USC then beats UF after beating UofM. UF has the bitch that "what the fuck, we beat the number one team in the country, USC didn't have to play anyone as tough as we did!" And to an extent, they would have a point.

Until we have a play off, there will be bitching about how we get to number 1. With a play off, people will bitch if they didn't get in, but there would be less bitching.

Re: Looks like Plus 1 is beginning to pick up a little support

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:43 pm
by War Wagon
Big Ten commissioners Jim Delany and Pac-10 commissioner Tom Hansen have said the university presidents they work for are opposed to moving the BCS to a plus-one, in part because it could make the Rose Bowl less attractive.
Rose Bowl officials have said they are wary of any change to the BCS that would lessen the significance of their game or make it more difficult for them to line up the their traditional Big Ten-Pac-10 matchup.
With their ignorant pre-set PAC-10 vs. Big 10 match-up, how could it be any less attractive or significant than what it already is?

Fuck the Rose Bowl.

Re: Looks like Plus 1 is beginning to pick up a little support

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:55 pm
by Goober McTuber
Killian wrote:My biggest thing is that this is akin to applying a band aid to an axe wound. What the fuck would a plus one accomplish? It's still not a play off, no matter how much people want to think it is. For example, who would get to play LSU this year? USC? Georgia? Kansas? Missouri? WVU?

Let's take a year like last season. UF destroys OSU, USC then beats UF after beating UofM. UF has the bitch that "what the fuck, we beat the number one team in the country, USC didn't have to play anyone as tough as we did!" And to an extent, they would have a point.

Until we have a play off, there will be bitching about how we get to number 1. With a play off, people will bitch if they didn't get in, but there would be less bitching.
I believe that what they’re saying is that this year “Ohio State would have played No. 4 Oklahoma in one game and LSU would have played Virginia Tech in the 2-3 game.” The winners would have met for the championship. USC, Georgia, Kansas, etc did not finish in the top 4.

Interestingly, under that format last year, the semis would have been tOSU vs LSU and Florida vs Michigan.

Re: Looks like Plus 1 is beginning to pick up a little support

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:37 pm
by Shoalzie
How can you do a plus 1 when you have more than two teams in the debate?

Re: Looks like Plus 1 is beginning to pick up a little support

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:00 pm
by WolverineSteve
Shoalzie wrote:How can you do a plus 1 when you have more than two teams in the debate?
This is the point I was making in a thread last week. This year parity ruled and no clear cut team emerged. OSU got there by not playing and everyone losing ahead of them. Not their fault, but they clearly didn't belong in the big game. LSU shit down their leg twice as the number one team and still made it. UGA should benefit by not winning it's division, and playing a JV team in their bowl game? What about WVU? One minor stumble, but showed everyone they are an elite team this year. Hawaii was a waste of time, they proved that they didn't belong.