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No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:23 am
by poptart
No official prediction yet, but I wanted to get the thread up for discussion.
The Faguars can give NE a lot of trouble if they don't fall behind early.
If NE hits some plays and puts points up early it might be a long day though.
No secret that Jacksonville wants to run, run, run ... and run some more.
They should have some success with it.
More later .....
Thoughts?
Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:25 pm
by BSmack
Though I don't want it to happen, the Pats will steamroll the Jags.
Pats 49
Jags 10
Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:30 pm
by War Wagon
This is the game I'm most looking forward to this weekend. J-ville isn't expected to have a chance in hell of winning, so they come in with nothing to lose and zero pressure playing the spoiler role. And they just might play that role well.
Loves me some the two-headed monster RB tandem of Taylor and Jones Drew. Garrard is also a threat to take off running at any time for big chunks.
I can't quite bring myself to call for the Jags to win in a monumental upset, but man would I love it if they shit all over the Patsies perfect season, dropping them to 16-1 and booting them from the Playoffs.
Should be a great game.
Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:48 pm
by RumpleForeskin
New England is going to put 8 in the box and rely on their man coverage to stop Gerrard's passing game. No way NE allows Taylor and Jones-Drew to get off. J-ville lacks a lot of speed in their receiving core, but they have size on NE's secondary. If Gerrard can throw some accurate "over the top" passes to his receivers, then that will force NE to play more cover 2 or tampa 2.
New England's offense is what it is; unstoppable. In saying that, all I have seen is the opposition play zone coverage so they won't get beat by Moss. I think Jville will blitz a lot and rely on their physical bump and run play to get the NE receivers off their routes. Maroney will not have much success, so Brady, Moss & Co. will do it through the air.
New England 31
J-Ville 17
Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:50 pm
by Nacho
I think this one depends on the weather. If it comes down to the run game NE will find themselves in a tuff situation.
Jax will have to win the clock just to have a shot on this one. They can also have no let downs.
It would be nice to see the Pats go down but I think we will have to wait another week on that one.
Pats 31
Jax 24
Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:20 pm
by Neely8
Nacho wrote:I think this one depends on the weather. If it comes down to the run game NE will find themselves in a tuff situation.
Jax will have to win the clock just to have a shot on this one. They can also have no let downs.
It would be nice to see the Pats go down but I think we will have to wait another week on that one.
Pats 31
Jax 24
Its supposed to be in the 30's and clear. No precipitation in the forecast. Good thing too because the Pats could never throw the ball in bad weather. Brady's numbers in the Raider Tuck game out front could tell you that......
32/52 312 Yards.....
Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:42 pm
by KC Scott
Pats line only moved 1/2 pt.
J'Vill built a lot like the Gnats only better.
But... the weather will be clear and the sky filled with Bradys.
I'd take the Jags and 13.5
Pats 38
Jags 31
Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:44 pm
by Shine
Pats- 35
Jags- 17
Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:36 pm
by Dinsdale
I was just kind of curious where you people get the impression the running team wins in "bad weather"?
The team that executes short routes has a HUGE advantage over the "running team" that doesn't. HUGE.
And last I checked, didn't NE have the most effective, successful slot receiver in the NFL?
While in "bad weather" Jax' ability to run the ball and grind the clock would be helpful in "keeping Brady off the field," that's about the only strategic advantage it would have. In questionable footing, a RB is at a disadvantage. A slot receiver gains an advantage.
Basic Pacific Northwest Football 101. Hence the Run & Shoot.
Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:26 am
by poptart
Cheatriots - 30
Faguars - 16
Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:26 am
by RevLimiter
I figured this was probably going to be a fairly close football game.
That is, until Jag DE Paul Spicer started bumping his gums again about how the NFL should "Do like the NCAA and kick them out of the playoffs or something. Put them on probation; they can't go to no playoff games." over the whole ridiculous "Spygate" crap. That was right after it happened. Spicer this week WILL NOT back off his comments. "It's my opinion, that's all it was," Spicer said. "This is four months later. It's about the playoffs. It's about the Jaguars, what we can do to beat the Patriots. We haven't done research like they did, didn't go back and look at everything they said over the season and see if we can use that to get motivated to go play. You shouldn't need what somebody else says to get you motivated. This is the NFL. It's a playoff game. You guys are undefeated. We're coming up there. That's enough right there to get motivated. I know I'm motivated."
Guess what dipshit? I'm pretty sure the Patriots just got a whole lot MORE "motivated" for this game. But wait...there's MORE. On ESPN's "Sportscenter" tonight they showed a NFL Power Rankings page right off the Jaguars' website. Of course the Patriots were the #1 team in the rankings....with a BIG FAT
"*" right next to it. When they scrolled down to the bottom of the page right there in bold type it clarified the asterisk with the following:
*-CAUGHT CHEATING IN WEEK 1
Which reminds me of the chorus in a Jim Croce song.....
You don't tug on Superman's cape, You don't spit into the wind, You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger, And you don't mess around with Bill Belichick's Boys. This one's gonna get chippy and dowright UGLY. All I can say is that the Florida boys had best make their tee times after Sat. night-
Patriots- 41
Jaguars- 13
Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:10 am
by War Wagon
Holy Crap, someone named Paul said something stupid 4 months ago? And that's going to motivate the Pats even more?
NFL Paul, after reading your "take", I'm now even more motivated ... wanting to see the Jags win.
Crash and burn, baby. Crash and burn. The hitch hikers bandwagon guide to the pro football universe is going to be derailed.
Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:17 am
by RevLimiter
War Wagon wrote:Holy Crap, someone named Paul said something stupid 4 months ago? And that's going to motivate the Pats even more?
Much like myself, that Paul could stomp a mudhole in yer ass.
NFL Paul, after reading your "take", I'm now even more motivated ... wanting to see the Jags win.
Calling me "NFL Paul" is a compliment, Whitey. Too bad the Jags WON'T win.
Crash and burn, baby. Crash and burn. The hitch hikers bandwagon guide to the pro football universe is going to be derailed.
You're DAMN RIGHT I'm on the bandwagon....the "MAKING NFL HISTORY" bandwagon. If 19-0's gonna happen, you might as well lie back, spread your legs and enjoy it.
Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:55 am
by War Wagon
RevLimiter wrote:If 19-0's gonna happen, you might as well lie back, spread your legs and enjoy it.
Lordy, this must needs be captured for posterity.
What if it doesn't happen, NFL Paul? You'll have layed back and spread your legs for
nothing. Wow, that's going to really ruin your day.
My prayer: Dear God and Paul Tagliabue, please ruin NFL Pauls day.
Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:37 am
by poptart
It's a plagiarized take, Wagon.
As is his 'take' on the Seaslug-Pecker game ... etc ....
Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:09 am
by poptart
The Pats are only like the '72 'Phins in that, as you said, they just get the job done.
NE is playing arena ball, while the '72 Dolphins played like they were a leather helmet era team -- just pounding the run game relentlessly w/Csonka, Kiik and Morris.
Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:49 pm
by RevLimiter
War Wagon wrote:RevLimiter wrote:If 19-0's gonna happen, you might as well lie back, spread your legs and enjoy it.
Lordy, this must needs be captured for posterity.
What if it doesn't happen, NFL Paul? You'll have layed back and spread your legs for
nothing. Wow, that's going to really ruin your day.
My prayer: Dear God and Paul Tagliabue, please ruin NFL Pauls day.
What if it doesn't happen, you ask?
OH WELL.
You act like I'm actually going to lose sleep or hide in the fetal position in a dark corner of my house if they lose.
Like I said, I don't think they WILL lose.
Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:51 pm
by RevLimiter
poptart wrote:It's a plagiarized take, Wagon.
As is his 'take' on the Seaslug-Pecker game ... etc ....
Wrong on both counts, Pops....but whatever blows yer skirt up.

Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:37 pm
by BSmack
RevLimiter wrote:
You tell 'em KFC Paul.
Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:56 pm
by RevLimiter
Way to stay on topic there, BitchSmacked.

Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:40 pm
by trev
Jags 21
Pats 38
Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:22 am
by Wannabet?
My book has the over/under at 49.5 and I am ALL OVER the over, I'll give the Jags the points at 13.5 as well.
Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:15 am
by Th
Patriots 38
Jags 13
Mark it!
Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:35 pm
by OCmike
BSmack wrote:RevLimiter wrote:
You tell 'em KFC Paul.
RACK!
KFC, how is BSmack not staying on topic by presenting you as a Pats fan after you admitted you'd be rooting for them? Gee, you're dumb.
Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:19 am
by Shine
Papa Willie wrote:Right now, they may have a better shot at beating the Pats than anybody else - including the Colts.
It's insane comments like this that will only add to the mystique of the Pats when they butt fuck the Jags in the mouth Saturday night. I can't believe on ESPN that only like 68% of people are picking NE. Once the Pats go up 14-0 the game is over. All this talk about the way to beat the Pats is by running and keeping Brady and crew on the sidelines is silly. There is only one way to beat the Pats this year and that is to outscore them because they WILL put points on the board. Indy is the only team, AFC or NFC, that has the right mix to pull out the W. We'll find out next week.
Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:27 am
by RevLimiter
BWAHAHAHAHA at the Faguars!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs0 ... id=3192641" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Asterisk next to Pats' record removed from Jaguars' Web site
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- The asterisk the Jacksonville Jaguars had on their Web site next to New England's perfect record, a mark indicating the Patriots were caught cheating in one game this season, has been removed.
The Jaguars, who play at New England in the divisional round of the AFC playoffs Saturday night, decided to remove the asterisk Friday.
Jaguars.com senior editor Vic Ketchman put the asterisk next to the Patriots in his weekly "power rankings." Ketchman said he put it there in "an attempt at subtle humor." It remained there, mostly under the radar, for four months.
That changed this week, when several media outlets turned the asterisk into a story.
"All of a sudden, the subtle humor was gone," Ketchman wrote Friday. "All of a sudden, the asterisk was being treated as though it was critical commentary.
"Retracting our position? No way. Hey, it was up there for four months. There's no retracting that. The jaguars.com executive committee just decided ... to take it down because our position had become distorted."
Ketchman added that he "never thought an asterisk could cause such a disturbance," citing all the e-mail he received this week from angry Patriots fans.
________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Yeah, well I'm still quite confident that the Patriots are gonna kick some SERIOUS
asterisks on Sat. night.

Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:32 am
by RevLimiter
OCmike wrote:KFC, how is BSmack not staying on topic by presenting you as a Pats fan after you admitted you'd be rooting for them? Gee, you're dumb.
Mike, I'm gonna say this ONE MORE TIME- I AM NOT a Pats fan. Everybody knows this. I am a
CHIEFS fan. Again, EVERYBODY knows this. However, I AM a fan of watching a team make NFL history. The Patriots are on the cusp of doing just that, and I wanna see them do it to silence the old bastard 72 Dolphins once and for all. If nobody here is smart enough to accept that then tough shit. You can ALL go fuck yourselves if you disagree.

Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:38 am
by Qbert
didn't JAX lose one of their DTackles last week...prompting the insertion of Grady Jackson?
Grady starred on Sanford and Son...yes.....???????
point is....no pressure from the DLine of JAX makes Giselle a happy.....well.....
*** 45
JAX 17
Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:29 pm
by Shoalzie
The only chance the Jags have is if they're running game helps them keep Brady and the crew off the field and they win the turnover battle...or at least break even if Brady doesn't throw any picks. You aren't going to outscore the Pats, obviously...you just need to limit their number of possessions or the amount of time they have the ball. If you turn the ball over, can't run and use up clock and wear down their defense...you don't have a prayer. I think the Jags might hang in for one half but the Pats will pull away in the second half.
Jaguars 17
Patriots 35
Re: No. 5 Jaguars (12-5) at No. 1 Patriots (16-0) -- Discussion
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:09 am
by smackaholic
RevLimiter wrote:OCmike wrote:KFC, how is BSmack not staying on topic by presenting you as a Pats fan after you admitted you'd be rooting for them? Gee, you're dumb.
Mike, I'm gonna say this ONE MORE TIME- I AM NOT a Pats fan. Everybody knows this. I am a
CHIEFS fan. Again, EVERYBODY knows this. However, I AM a fan of watching a team make NFL history. The Patriots are on the cusp of doing just that, and I wanna see them do it to silence the old bastard 72 Dolphins once and for all. If nobody here is smart enough to accept that then tough shit. You can ALL go fuck yourselves if you disagree.

You tell 'em, paula.
You fukks got it yet. He is not a fan, just a temporary bandwagoning shitstain.
Wonder if we'll ever see any of those for the chefs?
