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I had Rudy first and Romney second.

Sweet thread.


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WolverineSteve wrote:I had Rudy first and Romney second.

Same here

Oh... I see you guys endorse KNOWN LIARS for your elected officials.

Pretty intelligent of you... really.

Dinsdale wrote:Oh... I see you guys endorse KNOWN LIARS for your elected officials.

Pretty intelligent of you... really.

Please tell me that the guy who called this thread a "glass deek" knows that the program picks the candidates for you that you supposedly share the same views with, and that this isn't about which candidates you endorse.

BTW, Giuliani was #1 and I had a 3-way tie between Romney, McCain and Thompson for #2.

88 wrote:Amazing. The person with whom I least agree is my fucking congressman...

Doesn't that just make you want to puke?

Me, I'm stuck with Cryin' Ryan (Darryl) Issa. The Dems usually don't even bother to put up a candidate in this district.

Maybe we could switch - congressmen, that is.

OCmike wrote:Please tell me that the guy who called this thread a "glass deek" knows that the program picks the candidates for you that you supposedly share the same views with, and that this isn't about which candidates you endorse.

BTW, Giuliani was #1 and I had a 3-way tie between Romney, McCain and Thompson for #2.

Oh. So you "share the same views" that it's perfectly acceptable to tell bald-faced lies for political and personal gain?

Well thanks for clearing THAT up.


But wait -- McCain has the same deal going as Romney, except McCain is telling us the word "amnesty" means something completely different where he comes from as opposed to you, whereas with Romney, it's YOUR unfamiliarity with the definition of "saw" that makes him not a liar, as in "I SAW my father march with Martin Luther King."


Turns out, he meant he "saw" it in a vision, since his father did no such thing. Of course, he only shared this tidbit AFTER he got called out for telling bald-faced lies.


And Guliani -- he spouts the lies too quickly to even keep track of all of them.


But this is what you people tolerate, so you get what you deserve... fucking tards.

"Amnesty" is just another word for nothin' left to lose.

Mikey wrote:"Amnesty" is just another word for nothin' left to lose.

Amnesty don't mean amnesty if it ain't free.


Damn... nice work, Mikey. That fits in perfectly with McCains version of "amnesty that isn't amnesty."

Dinsdale wrote: Oh. So you "share the same views" that it's perfectly acceptable to tell bald-faced lies for political and personal gain?

Well thanks for clearing THAT up.

Awwww...an idealist! How cute.

Kind of... "ideally," you people wouldn't be such complete fucking dumbfucks at the polls.


I mean, what's a little lie if it means getting votes?

Oh, wait -- I seem to remember quite a furor over Clinton lying about getting a hummer...


something about "national disgrace"... so you want to vote for another PROVEN LIAR?


Aren't you just a clever one?

Has Dins always been a little anklebiter, or is he just in rare form today?

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Dinsdale wrote:

Mikey wrote:"Amnesty" is just another word for nothin' left to lose.

Amnesty don't mean amnesty if it ain't free.


Damn... nice work, Mikey. That fits in perfectly with McCains version of "amnesty that isn't amnesty."

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Mikey wrote:
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

What if said clock is owned by a blind squirrel? Do those cancel each other out?

Dog wrote:Has Dins always been a little anklebiter, or is he just in rare form today?

He's really more "leg-humper" than "ankle-biter".

Dinsdale wrote:Kind of... "ideally," you people wouldn't be such complete fucking dumbfucks at the polls.

Who said I was going to vote for Giuliani? It's a stupid poll website, you idgit. Brown ring around your neck says you need to pull your head out of your ass.

I mean, what's a little lie if it means getting votes?

Oh, wait -- I seem to remember quite a furor over Clinton lying about getting a hummer...


something about "national disgrace"... so you want to vote for another PROVEN LIAR?


Aren't you just a clever one?

The furor wasn't about the hummer, it was about the fact that it was before a grand jury. You hear those pounding steps? That's BSmack galloping to his keyboard to hop on this thread now that you mentioned slick Willy and the blowjob. Nice going.

BTW, don't presume to know who I'm going to vote for based on what some stupid website says. Truth is, there's one candidate from each party that I'd consider voting for.

Ron Paul "wants to get the government out of your life, not deeper in it."


And he's yet (making him the ONLY candidate who hasn't thrown truth out the window yet) to get caught in one of the flagrant lies that the others are selling.


Very simple choice. People really are making it more complicated than it is.

OCmike wrote: Truth is, there's one candidate from each party that I'd consider voting for.

Same here. Care to share?

OCmike wrote:The furor wasn't about the hummer, it was about the fact that it was before a grand jury.

This horse has been beaten so many times, it sprang back to life...


But that question never should have been allowed in the grand jury... although it was still egregiously wrong morally to lie about it. A simple "I refuse to answer that question" would have done just fine.

Dinsdale wrote:Oh... I see you guys endorse KNOWN LIARS for your elected officials.

Well, seeing as how those are all that's running...

Barack Obama
Score: 46

Joe Biden
Score: 46

Hillary Clinton
Score: 46

Dennis Kucinich
Score: 44

Chris Dodd
Score: 44

Bill Richardson
Score: 41

Mike Gravel
Score: 36

John Edwards
Score: 34

Rudy Giuliani
Score: 29

Mitt Romney
Score: 26

Fred Thompson
Score: 21

Duncan Hunter
Score: 19

John McCain
Score: 15

Ron Paul
Score: 13

Mike Huckabee
Score: 11

mvscal wrote:

Dinsdale wrote:And he's yet (making him the ONLY candidate who hasn't thrown truth out the window yet) to get caught in one of the flagrant lies that the others are selling.

Newsflash dumbfuck: When you lard a spending bill with earmarks for your district and then vote against that bill knowing that it will pass anyway just so that you can burnish your "anti-spending" credentials, you are a fucking liar. Not only are you a liar, but you are lying about what is considered to be one of your core principles.

Then there is the issue of the numerous racist newsletters that were published in his name while he was dwelling underneath his rock. Paul claims that he knew absolutely nothing about those newsletters that went out in his name.

Are you telling me you find that denial credible? If so, what does the fact that he has absolutely no idea what his staff is doing in his name tell you about his leadership ability?

Sorry, Paul is just another run of mill political hack not to mention a tard of epic proportions.

Fucking Paultards. Every candidate is a liar except for the biggest liar of all.

Duncan and Fred both at 49%
John McCain right behind at 47
The reest of the repubs in the 30s
Looks like I don't match up with anybody, really.

I'm not really a democrat but I lean that way of the big two. I was leaning towards Obama going into this election. I don't really like to follow any party lines. I never want declare allegience with a single politcal party, join a labor union or follow a organized faith/religion...I perfer to think for myself.

Barack Obama 64
Hillary Clinton 59
Joe Biden 59
Chris Dodd 54
John Edwards 51
Rudy Giuliani 49
Dennis Kucinich 46
Mike Gravel 42
Bill Richardson 39
Mitt Romney 32
John McCain 25
Ron Paul 22
Duncan Hunter 17
Mike Huckabee 15
Fred Thompson 10

Dude, if Hillary comes in at #2 on your list, just kill yourself...or don't vote for her, but definitely on of the two.

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In addition to matching your views to the politician's views and rhetoric, you then have to decide, "Which candidate can actually do the job and make the issues that he/ she supports happen!" Who has the most experience and best track record.

If I was a liberal democrat, which I am not, I would think that Hillary has bigger balls than Obama, has more clout and is more likely to accomplish what she intends to accomplish. However, not necessarily what she says she plans to accomplish.

I think Obama is more honest but lacks the political background that Hillary has. Obama has been an elected official longer but Hillary's 2 terms in the White House (as the FL) give her the political experience edge.

As far as the Republican side, there are many more choices that do have the necessary political experience to actually do the job and get done what they say they will get done.

IMO, McCain possesses the most experience and political knowledge to get the job done right. I also think McCain would be more acceptable to Democrats than a Huckabee, Giuliani or Romney.

John Edwards 59
Hillary Clinton 46
Barack Obama 45
Bill Richardson 42
Chris Dodd 40
Dennis Kucinich 38
Joe Biden 38
Mike Gravel 28
Rudy Giuliani 27
Mike Huckabee 25
Mitt Romney 19
Duncan Hunter 14
John McCain 11
Ron Paul 8
Fred Thompson 8

woah, Duncedale is telling us that politicians lie?



Holy fucking Mackeral, forgit calling the FBI, Dunce is on the case.

So basically all this poll told me is that I agree with almost every candidate on less than 40% of the bullshit they spew, ideologically speaking.

I wouldn't vote for any of my top four, either. WTF was that jailed Injuns name?

Mayor Giuliani doesn't have what it takes, Edwards is a profiteering scumbag lawyer who has probably cost americans more money in increased prescription prices than anyone in history, Hilary cannot be trusted, and Obama is the biggest platform inflating "I'll give you hope, but not much more" lying pulpit preacher of a candidate I have ever heard speak.

I might have to write in either Tiny Tim or Pat Paulson. All the best Presidents are dead, anyway. Not that my vote matters worth a shit since no one I care to vote for is running. I can see an Obama / Clinton ticket in my nightmares, though, and the repubs have nothing,

Rudy Giuliani 41
John Edwards 35
Hillary Clinton 34
Barack Obama 33
Chris Dodd 32
John McCain 28
Bill Richardson 27
Joe Biden 26
Duncan Hunter 25
Dennis Kucinich 25
Mitt Romney 25
Mike Gravel 22
Fred Thompson 21
Mike Huckabee 18
Ron Paul 17

No different than the last time I took it:

Rudy Giuliani
Score: 30
Agree
Taxes
Stem-Cell Research
Health Care
Abortion
Social Security
Marriage
Death Penalty
Gun Control
Disagree
Iraq
Immigration
Line-Item Veto
Energy
Environment
Education


John McCain
Score: 26
Agree
Immigration
Taxes
Health Care
Social Security
Line-Item Veto
Energy
Marriage
Death Penalty
Disagree
Iraq
Stem-Cell Research
Abortion
Gun Control
Environment
Education

McCain's pandering to the thumpers sickens me.

It' also telling that shit like Gay Marriage, abortion, ethanol and immigration continue to be "flash point" issues to the sheeple.

This election is up for grabs...

Papa Willie wrote:
Fuck it. Fuck it all. Fuck dead bream and crappie.

Not dead yet.

Or do you know something the rest of us don't?

Papa Willie wrote:until America finally gets the balls to understand that there is more to life than 2 shitty political parties, fuck it. There should be about 10 different parties, and people SHOULD have enough fucking sense to figure out the differences and what they like. Those who are dumb enough just to push "D" or "R" shouldn't even be allowed to vote.

If you truly fell that way, Spray, you should be pushing like crazy for a Constitutional Amendment abolishing the Electoral College.

The existence of the Electoral College is the single biggest impediment to the emergence of third parties in this country. And there's nothing else that's even close.

Dinsdale wrote:Oh... I see you guys endorse KNOWN LIARS for your elected officials.

At this point, it's pretty much a race of the "least" liars, for both parties.

After Feb. 5, it may be an election of chosing between two liars. Hopefully, not.

I already wasted my vote on an absebtee ballot for someone who will never get elected or even win their primaries; Alan Keyes.

Papa Willie wrote:I'd also say that you'd have to be a LEGAL alien with at least 20 years in the USA before you could vote as well.

Dude, I don't know if you caught this, but there's actually an Amendment in the Constitution that covers this. The Supreme Court actually took a gander at it, and agreed.

But the people who actually wrote those election laws are even more draconian than you -- they even require US citizenship.


Nice job campaigning for the Retard-of-the-Day Award, though.


You might... just maybe wanna familiarize yourself with current voting requirements BEFORE you propose changes to the current system... just a thought.

How come every thread here worth a shit is a glass dick from weeks ago at thetrolls.net?

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Bennish wrote:How come every thread here worth a shit

Irony much?

Or was it the lack of RACKs and smilies that put you off? But then again you did ask why the smackoff forum is locked ...

Try reading outside the main forum, dipshit.

Actually these days, the main forum does have glimpses of old times. And gimpses of old times, of course.

mvscal wrote:

Dinsdale wrote:You might... just maybe wanna familiarize yourself with current voting requirements BEFORE you propose changes to the current system... just a thought.

There are no meaningful voting requirements when you aren't even obligated to prove your identity before pulling the lever.

What, are you saying that providing a phone bill that shows your name and address on it aren't proof of your identity and proof of citizenship?

Papa Willie wrote:

Terry in Crapchester wrote:

Papa Willie wrote:until America finally gets the balls to understand that there is more to life than 2 shitty political parties, fuck it. There should be about 10 different parties, and people SHOULD have enough fucking sense to figure out the differences and what they like. Those who are dumb enough just to push "D" or "R" shouldn't even be allowed to vote.

If you truly fell that way, Spray, you should be pushing like crazy for a Constitutional Amendment abolishing the Electoral College.

The existence of the Electoral College is the single biggest impediment to the emergence of third parties in this country. And there's nothing else that's even close.

I'd be happy to do that - ONLY if people on welfare and all jailers were prohibited were not allowed to vote. I'd also say that you'd have to be a LEGAL alien with at least 20 years in the USA before you could vote as well. I would also probably say that the voting age should be raised to 21....

They should just swap the drinking and voting ages. Old enough to vote (but probably shouldn't be), hold a job, serve in the military...

But not have a beer?

As far as the first statement, I'd go further. If taxation without representation is tyranny, then representation without taxation is anarchy. The franchise should be limited to those who pay more in taxes than they recieve from the government. There was a reason that property holding (and paying property taxes) was originally a requirement to vote- those who pay the bills should have the say in who runs the show. Of course, maybe Robert Heinlein had the right idea- only veterens vote, ewveryone else is pretty much a freeloader to begin with.

And while you're at it, anyone who doesn't vote for two election cycles should be required to re-register and then wait four years. Use it or lose it would serve as an incentive.

But leave the EC alone. The Founders knew there would be demagougic vermin like Gore in the future who would focus on highly populous states and ignore the rest of the country. When the constitution was written, three states (Pennsylvania, New Yory and Virginia) had a majority of the population. Since 1913 the EC is the last protection the individual states have against dominance by the federal government

And yes, Dims has always been an ankle-biting twit.