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Shit -- I would have estimated a number several times that high.


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Nice job at the voting booths, tards. And then you signed on for it again.


Something about the definition of insanity being repeating the same mistake and expecting a different result.

The president gets a pass for crimes committed in office. That certainly doesn't preclude having the veep, Rice, and the whole gang of criminals lynched in a back alley.


Oh, and btw -- whatever you do, just sit idly by while the federal reserve and Bush's big industry gut what's left of your assets. Whatever you do, you should never speak out against what the illuminati tell you, and when they tell you to vote for more of the same, you should do it without question.

And if anyone does speak out against criminal enterprises commandeering the government, always question their "patriotism."


And if any of you still have any doubts that there's at least a possibility that there's a lot more to 9/11 than the bullshit that's being sold, that officially makes you a fucking idiot. Funny how a bunch of people called that shot to perfection many years beforehand, and when Their Guy got into the White House, the landmark event they CALLED THEIR SHOT ON suddenly came to fruition, and all of those involved in calling that shot increased their wealth and influence by a zillionfold. But it's all just one incredible, astronomical coincidence, I'm sure.



Now, it's been decided that you have too much money in your pocket, and China doesn't have enough. Do you protest this? Do you care that the Men in the Marble Palace decided you have too much money, although those people are all wealthy?


It's truly shocking that you fucks really couldn't care less that people make decisions about your life, when they have no regard for your life whatsoever.


Oh well. A few people having a grasp on the obvious is meaningless. And people are scared little sheeple, and would rather live under oppression than face reality. And as long as that's the case, there's nothing that the people who care can do, except play the fiddle while the American Dream is trashed for the benefit of a very, very few.


Enjoy it while it lasts. But please bear in mind how important international goodwill is at this point. Those same countries you ridicule now, you'll be dependent on in the coming years.


Hey Bush the Criminal -- want an influx of cash to "stimulate the economy?"

Seize all assets of companies that illegally benefitted from war profiteering. I realize Halliburton had the gall to move out of the country to prepare for this eventuality, but their American holdings should be sufficient. There's plenty of others... but then again, if you started seizing up the war profiteers, the current presidential candidates would have to find new sources of campaign financing (and in a remarkable bit of widespread stupidity, you people are OK with this... "ponderous" doesn't do it justice).

mvscal wrote:
Thanks for the left wing agitprop, Dins.

In the same swipe, I subtly suggested the federal reserve has jumped the shark, as has the federal government with it's now-limitless scope.

These would be extremely right wing views, just so's you know.

A criminal act of lying for personal/professional/political gain is still a lie and crime, regardless who points it out.


But I was just trolling you, anyway.

Dinsdale wrote:Whatever you do, you should never speak out against what the illuminati tell you, and when they tell you to vote for more of the same, you should do it without question.

Mister we could use a man
Like Adam Weishaupt again...

Diogenes wrote:Mister we could use a man
Like Adam Weishaupt again...

Ewige Blumenkraft und ewige Schlangenkraft!

Stop it.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/ ... 9494.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You knew this news was going to come out -- expect more -- as the election draws closer.

Saddam lied, people died.

"He told me he initially miscalculated... President Bush’s intentions. He thought the United States would retaliate with the same type of attack as we did in 1998...a four-day aerial attack," says Piro. "He survived that one and he was willing to accept that type of attack." "He didn't believe the U.S. would invade?" asks Pelley, "No, not initially," answers Piro.

Once the invasion was certain, says Piro, Saddam asked his generals if they could hold the invaders for two weeks. "And at that point, it would go into what he called the secret war," Piro tells Pelley. But Piro isn’t convinced that the insurgency was Saddam's plan. "Well, he would like to take credit for the insurgency," says Piro.

Saddam still wouldn't admit he had no weapons of mass destruction, even when it was obvious there would be military action against him because of the perception he did. Because, says Piro, "For him, it was critical that he was seen as still the strong, defiant Saddam. He thought that [faking having the weapons] would prevent the Iranians from reinvading Iraq," he tells Pelley.

He also intended and had the wherewithal to restart the weapons program. "Saddam] still had the engineers. The folks that he needed to reconstitute his program are still there," says Piro. "He wanted to pursue all of WMD…to reconstitute his entire WMD program." This included chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, Piro says.

My hunch is Bin Laden will be dead sometime around four years ago -- errr -- in July or August 2008.

935 reasons all in a line.
All of them good ones,
All of them lies...

Driftin' with my Cheney
We're oldest of friends.
Needs a little work
There's a pacemaker to mend.

DEMOCRACY CANCELLED

Martyred wrote:DEMOCRACY CANCELLED

We're a Republic, dipshit.

And leave Hitlery out of this.

mvscal wrote:He's right. There will be no meaningful difference whatsoever between the candidates.

Actually, he's probably just trolling.

You, on the other hand, are a fucking idiot.

Look on the bright side, in 5-6 years, you guys can have your own "colour-coded revolution".

Soros funded.

"What a marvelous scene...throngs of people have taken to the streets in spontaneous expressions
of individuality. They are clutching (FILL IN THE BLANK OF COLOUR-CODED REVOLUTION) bits of cloth, and chanting "Freedom and Democracy!" Candle-light vigils are expected outside of major government institutions all weekend long..."

Oh, and if y'all don't know how to kick off a "general uprising", don't worry, the CIA will distribute their handy
'Peacful-Overthrow-In-A-Box' kits to the local running dog lackeys. Just add water and agitate.

So would now be a good time to stock up on AK-47's & 7.62x39 ammo while the price is still low?

Cuda wrote:So would now be a good time to stock up on AK-47's & 7.62x39 ammo while the price is still low?

Well, duh.

Buy plenty of rope too. Those CEO's aren't going to lynch themselves, you know.

Mace wrote:935 lies?? Did someone actually do the research on dinsdale's daily posts?

Mace

Only his C&Ps are actual lies. The rest is genuine idiocy.

Martyred wrote:

Cuda wrote:So would now be a good time to stock up on AK-47's & 7.62x39 ammo while the price is still low?

Well, duh.

Buy plenty of rope too. Those CEO's aren't going to lynch themselves, you know.

I think some of them will- rather than be raped in prison

Good point.

"FREEEEEEEEEDOM...YEAH, RIGHT!"

If you could be king for a day and pass one law, what would it be? Mine would be open season on white dudes in dreadlocks. Not only would you get amnesty if you shot one, I'd even give a tax break for doing it.

"As your president, I am responsible for the decision to go into Iraq. Yet it was right to remove Saddam Hussein from power.

And now it's your responsibility to finish the job of democratizing Iraq before you leave the office. I'm confident this will be achieved.

Interesting how soldiers dying in Iraq isn't the lead story on CNN these days. For some reason, all the naysayers have STFU. I guess the plan has started working. Yes, it took long enough and the price was high, but just maybe it was worth it.

For those American soldiers who gave their life for this cause, I sure hope so.

The paln is not working, Wagon.

- gas prices have doubled since we began this adventure
- we're further in debt as a nation than before -- up to our friggin' ears, btw -- we're in trouble
- we've lost (or had crippled) too many young and brave Americans
- AlQ was not a factor in Iraq before the war, but now they are
- we've stirred up (and will continue to stir up) more anti-American sentiment in the M.E. by our involvement there
- we will be in Iraq for many years to come -- unless someone comes to their senses

It's a horrible disaster, Mr War Wagon.

Let's get out, let the sand-freaks slaughter each other, and all drink cream sodas over here in the good ol' US of A.

poptart wrote:The paln is not working, Wagon.

- gas prices have doubled since we began this adventure
- we're further in debt as a nation than before -- up to our friggin' ears, btw -- we're in trouble
- we've lost (or had crippled) too many young and brave Americans
- AlQ was not a factor in Iraq before the war, but now they are
- we've stirred up (and will continue to stir up) more anti-American sentiment in the M.E. by our involvement there
- we will be in Iraq for many years to come -- unless someone comes to their senses

It's a horrible disaster, Mr War Wagon.

Let's get out, let the sand-freaks slaughter each other, and all drink cream sodas over here in the good ol' US of A.

Rack.

Didn't expect to see that from that particular corner. I guess props to Poptart are in order.

Dinsdale wrote:Nice job at the voting booths, tards. And then you signed on for it again.

As I've said before, don't throw me in with that particular group. I voted against Bush, not once, but twice.

Terry in Crapchester wrote: I voted against Bush, not once, but twice.

Of course you did, because you're a sniveling liberal hand wringer.

And by default, you voted for Gore and Kerry, two of the biggest, most collosal dumbfucks since Jimmy Carter.

As I've said before, history will validate Bush, even though we may not live to see it. While the current bashers point at his miniscule approval ratings in his last year of office, realize that the only two term president who ever had lower ratings after 7 years was Harry "give-em hell" Truman.

For that reason alone I say, "give-em hell, Dubya".

War Wagon wrote:

Terry in Crapchester wrote: I voted against Bush, not once, but twice.

Of course you did, because you're a sniveling liberal hand wringer.

And by default, you voted for Gore and Kerry, two of the biggest, most collosal dumbfucks since Jimmy Carter.

As I've said before, history will validate Bush, even though we may not live to see it. While the current bashers point at his miniscule approval ratings in his last year of office, realize that the only two term president who ever had lower ratings after 7 years was Harry "give-em hell" Truman.

For that reason alone I say, "give-em hell, Dubya".

Surprised that you're referring favorably to a liberal. Yes, Truman was a liberal, much as it might actually pain you to admit it. And while I'm no fan of Gore, I realized that Bush would be 10, ERRR, 1,000, ERRR, 1,000,000 times worse. On that point, I've long since been proven correct.

Nixon had comparable overall approval ratings with Bush, btw. Yeah, I know he didn't serve two full terms, but neither did Truman, if you want to nitpick.

As for Dubya, guaranteeing U.S. presence in the Middle East for the foreseeable future isn't going to do much to vindicate him historically.

Terry in Crapchester wrote:Surprised that you're referring favorably to a liberal. Yes, Truman was a liberal, much as it might actually pain you to admit it.

Absolutely. Of course if he was around today, leftists like you would refer to him as a neocon. There hasn't been a real Liberal in the Party of Petain since Moynihan and Scoop Jackson.

Sincerly,

The Last American Liberal.

Terry in Crapchester wrote: As for Dubya, guaranteeing U.S. presence in the Middle East for the foreseeable future isn't going to do much to vindicate him historically.

The U.S. has had a presence in the Mid-East since long before Bush and would've in the future regardless. Something about Israel and oil that is deemed vital to American interest.

On the other hand, had Bush not acted to secure those interests, history would have been very unkind towards his legacy.

Diogenes wrote:Scoop Jackson.

fuck that piece of shit. worst published writer EVER. dude is as worthless as a dingle berry.

Diogenes wrote:

Terry in Crapchester wrote:Surprised that you're referring favorably to a liberal. Yes, Truman was a liberal, much as it might actually pain you to admit it.

Absolutely. Of course if he was around today, leftists like you would refer to him as a neocon.

Wrong. Truman integrated the military and expanded the New Deal. Relative to the time when he served, he was far more "liberal" (modern definition of the word) than Clinton ever thought of being.

And doubtless, he's rolling in his grave at the very thought of being compared to Bush. Then again, he might consider the source before he does that.

Terry in Crapchester wrote:

Diogenes wrote:

Terry in Crapchester wrote:Surprised that you're referring favorably to a liberal. Yes, Truman was a liberal, much as it might actually pain you to admit it.

Absolutely. Of course if he was around today, leftists like you would refer to him as a neocon.

Wrong. Truman integrated the military and expanded the New Deal. Relative to the time when he served, he was far more "liberal" (modern definition of the word) than Clinton ever thought of being.

And doubtless, he's rolling in his grave at the very thought of being compared to Bush. Then again, he might consider the source before he does that.

Actually the comparison to Bush is dead on. Harry did what he thought was right regardless of public opinion. Comparing him to your finger-in-the-wind, poll driven Rapist-In-Chief would be what would cause him to roll in his grave.

And he was Liberal in the classical sense of representing the vital center. You and your ilk would all be Wallace supporters back then.

Truman was a clueless dumbfuck who wasn't even considered worthy of being told about the Atom Bomb until it was time to drop it. Even fucking Stalin knew more about it than Harry- and long before Harry knew it!

War Wagon wrote:As I've said before, history will validate Bush

As a complete, utter failure at every fucking thing he touched.

Devasted the economy, devastated the military with overextension, devastated the Constitution, supervised the scam known as FEMA through a monumental failure, lied openly and flagrantly, completely destroyed US-international relations, destroyed the old record for deficit spending, launched an oil-war that resulted in a tripling of oil prices (brilliant strategy, that one), and in an incredibly liberal move, removed what little was left of the free market in pharmecuticals for the huge benefit of a very small minority, while destroying the US labor market by flooding it with illegals, and renewed Clinton's traitorous trade agreements.


I'm sure I've left a few hundred failures out with which he backstabbed the American People, but those were just for starters.

Cuda wrote:Truman was a clueless dumbfuck who wasn't even considered worthy of being told about the Atom Bomb until it was time to drop it. Even fucking Stalin knew more about it than Harry- and long before Harry knew it!

Plausible deniability.

Coods, you saying that Truman wasn't even aware of the Manhattan project?

Regardless, Harry gave the order to drop it. Twice. And saved untold thousands of American GI lives by doing so.

Dinsdale wrote: Devasted the economy, devastated the military with overextension, devastated the Constitution, supervised the scam known as FEMA through a monumental failure, lied openly and flagrantly, completely destroyed US-international relations, destroyed the old record for deficit spending, launched an oil-war that resulted in a tripling of oil prices (brilliant strategy, that one), and in an incredibly liberal move, removed what little was left of the free market in pharmecuticals for the huge benefit of a very small minority, while destroying the US labor market by flooding it with illegals, and renewed Clinton's traitorous trade agreements.

Wow.

I'm pretty sure you must also think Bush caused the HIV virus, drug addiction, drunk driving, and everything else that ails society as well.

This just in, but neither the economy, the military, or the labor market are "devastated".

Go peddle that horseshit on some Ron Paul website.

War Wagon wrote:I'm pretty sure you must also think Bush caused the HIV virus

No.

drug addiction, drunk driving

No as well. Although he is guilty of both of those.

and everything else that ails society as well.

No, just the stuff he's responsible for.

This just in, but neither the economy

Uhm... did you happen to notice that the economy is so fucking bad (which Bush has also LIED about recently) that they've taken the monumentally fucked-up step of borrowing money we don't have to try and "stimulate" it?

You see this as a sign of a healthy economy?

The insane asylum just called -- they want their you back.

the military, or the labor market are "devastated".

Weren't you the one just complaining about American car making jobs being lost?

Something about discussions of raising the federal minimum wage (unconstitutional-btw), since the laws of supply and demand that determine wages have been skewed by porous borders?



You really are a naive rube.

Dinsdale wrote: Uhm... did you happen to notice that the economy is so fucking bad (which Bush has also LIED about recently) that they've taken the monumentally fucked-up step of borrowing money we don't have to try and "stimulate" it?

Oh, I forgot. The sub-prime mortgage lending mess, which caused irrational fear of a recession and the need for economic stimulus, is Bush's fault also.

You remember the Savings and Loan emplosion in the 80's? That was Bush's fault as well.

You see this as a sign of a healthy economy?

A healthy economy also includes low unemployment and inflation rates, which we've enjoyed for the last 5 years. You take the recent stock market fluctuations and blow 'em way of proportion as it relates to the economy.

Do you like "The Who", Dins?

with liberties since i'm ad libbing.

"...there's no crisis, THIS IS YOU. This is no social crisis, just another trippy day for you, fella'."

That's a fukken great song, no?.

Weren't you the one just complaining about American car making jobs being lost?

No, I was the one complaining about traitorous dumbfucks who buy Toyotas and Honda's under the now totally false pretense that the quality is significantly better than Ford's or Chevy's.

But the reasons for American car making jobs being lost have nothing to do with Bush.

You really are a naive rube.

Maybe so, but if supporting my President whom I voted for makes me a naive rube, then so be it.

Paraphrasing O.A. (Bum) Phillips, if George Bush isn't in his own presidential dumbfuckery class, whatever class he's in doesn't take long to call roll.


Mr Wagon, War, if you think inflation is low you should think again.
Or not think, and leave that duty to others.

Are you aware of a thing called ...... a deficit, .... a national debt?
For which, each citizen's share is about $30,000.

Yes, enjoy your $800 tax .... ??rebate??


bwaaa ....

War Wagon wrote:Oh, I forgot. The sub-prime mortgage lending mess, which caused irrational fear of a recession and the need for economic stimulus, is Bush's fault also.

Of course not. Although a good leader would have used some of that face-time to maybe tell Average Joe to research any documents they sign very carefully beforehand.

You remember the Savings and Loan emplosion in the 80's? That was Bush's fault as well.

Correct. Although it was the President's brother, who also uses the name Bush.


Oh... you forgot that part when you tried to make a funny.


Let's see... stole BILLIONS of dollars... yeah, that family name carries the sort of integrity I'm looking for. His bro has my vote.


Aren't you just fucking clever?

You see this as a sign of a healthy economy?

A healthy economy also includes low unemployment and inflation rates, which we've enjoyed for the last 5 years.

Huh?


Inflation is EXTREMELY high. EXTREMELY. But rubes like you haven't noticed that since it didn't fit in with corporate fatcats personal interest, they changed the way they calculate inflation so fucking idiots like you buy into their bullshit.

FUCK, you're ignorant.

Whitey -- you do realize they're printing money as fast as the presses can crank it out, right? With another $200 billion coming soon.


Now, Mr Economics Wizard, that does WHAT to inflation?


But don't worry -- the Men in the Marble Palace will change the definition of "inflation" again before you have a chance to open your eyes.

Hey Whitey -- ever heard of a Euro? It's a form of currency. A canadian dollar? A pound sterling?

Shut. The. Fuck. Up. if you can't resist the urge to be an uninformed dumbfuck.

Unfuckingbelievably naive... your the problem, you douche.

Maybe so, but if supporting my President whom I voted for makes me a naive rube, then so be it.

[Godwin]There were a whole bunch of Germans who supported the leader they voted for in the 1930's, who ran under the "they're out to get us!" ticket. Even after he went off the rails and wasn't acting in their better interest. Props on following in their footsteps. Nice to know history books weren't wasted on you, bud.[/Godwin]


Whitey, ever heard that "better to keep it shut and be thought an idiot...." bit? Your economics teacher really didn't stress that enough.

poptart wrote: Mr Wagon, War, if you think inflation is low you should think again.
Or not think, and leave that duty to others.

Like who? Dins? Obviously, that's not a pre-requisite for posting rationally.

No, all that's required is a sufficient amount of non-factual blathering. Make shit up, throw against wall, see if it sticks.

Notice you didn't say anything about the unemployement rate. Gee, and here we've got all these illegal aliens running around and stealing American jobs, and yet the rate is so low.

hmm...

Somebody's perception is a wee bit skewed here, and it isn't mine.

What do you care anyway, 'tart? Aren't you Korean now? Did you get a yob there?