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RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:35 am
by Screw_Michigan
CNNSI.com reporting, story to come soon.

"i come here for breaking news and scat porn."

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:00 am
by Bobby42
Look to Newslink42 for the shit.
Rivals.com Staff Reports

Bob Knight, the winningest NCAA men's division I basketball coach in history, has retired as Texas Tech's coach effective immediately.

Knight, 67, won his 902nd game Saturday when the Red Raiders downed Oklahoma State. He will be replaced by his son, Pat. Knight informed athletic director Gerald Myers of his decision Monday morning.

Knight: A Look Back

Knight won three national titles at Indiana, in 1976, '81 and '87. In all, he took the Hoosiers to 24 NCAA tournament appearances and reached the Final Four two other times.

During his tenure at Texas Tech, Knight was 138-82, and he led the Red Raiders to the NCAA Tournament in four of his six seasons, reaching the Sweet 16 in 2005. The Red Raiders are 11-8 this season and 3-3 in the Big 12, tied for sixth in the conference with Oklahoma.

Knight is one of six men who have played and coached in the Final Four. He played for Ohio State when the Buckeyes reached the Final Four in 1960, '61 and '62. He and Dean Smith are the only mean who have played and coached for a national champion.

Knight's three national titles are tied for third-most, behind John Wooden's 10 and Adolph Rupp's four. Mike Krzyzewski, who played for Knight at Army, also has three titles. Krzyzewski began his college coaching career as a graduate assistant at Indiana under Knight in 1974.

Knight's five Final Four appearances are tied for sixth all-time.

He also coached U.S. teams to gold medals in the 1979 Pan American Games and the 1984 Olympics.

Knight perhaps is as well-known for his temper and behavior as he is for his win total. He was fired at Indiana on Sept. 10, 2000, by then-IU president Myles Brand for what Brand termed a continuing pattern of "defiant and hostile" behavior.

Knight always has taken great pride in the academic achievement of his players, and during his coaching career, which began in 1965 at Army, all but four of his four-year players completed degrees, a ratio of nearly 98 percent.

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:29 am
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Thanks, Bobby. Except we already knew that Knight retired. Now the story is WHY. Get to work.

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:35 am
by Bobby42
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Thanks, Bobby. Except we already knew that Knight retired. Now the story is WHY. Get to work.
Here ya go...

Exclusive: Knight speaks about resignation decision
BY JEFF WALKER
Monday, February 04, 2008
Story broke at 5:30 p.m.
Story last updated at 2/4/2008 - 7:18 pm

When Bob Knight arrived in Lubbock, he was greeted by a large, loud crowd at United Spirit Arena.

There will be far less pomp and circumstance for his departure.

Knight, in his seventh season as Texas Tech’s head coach, informed athletic director Gerald Myers on Monday morning he was retiring, effective immediately.

Knight said he has contemplated retirement and thought about doing it after this season. But after talking to good friend and legendary basketball coach Pete Newell on Sunday, Knight believed now was the best time to begin the transition phase of having son, Pat, take over the program.

Pat Knight has been the head coach designate since 2005.

“There’s a transition that’s going to take place here from me to Pat and I’ve dwelt on this all year long — about what would be the best way to do this, and how it would be best for him and for the team and for what we can do in the long run to make this the best thing for Texas Tech,” said Knight, who retires with 902 career victories. “I didn’t know, I’ve never really known when I was going to step down from this job. As I thought about it, my first thought was at the end of this season.”

Knight said he spoke with Newell for about an hour and an half Sunday.

“My thinking was that for Pat and for this team — most of which is returning next year — the best thing for the long run for this team would be for Pat and his staff to coach these remaining 10 games,” Knight said. “And (to) get an understanding, get a real feel for each other, be able to think over the course of the spring and summer going into next season about how people had played, how things had been done offensively or defensively, what could be done or couldn’t be done, what to stay away from, what to work on and develop that from a game standpoint as the coach in charge of everything rather than as an assistant coach.

“It was always a problem for me as to just what would be the most effective way in this transition, to make this transition. And with all the thought that I put into it, that’s exactly how I felt that it should be.”

Knight said he informed the team prior to practice Monday. The Red Raiders (12-8, 3-3) will play at Baylor on Wednesday.

Myers was in a similar situation more than three decades ago when he took over the Red Raiders’ program mid-season. He said he was surprised when Knight told him Monday he was stepping down, but he also understood Knight’s reasoning.

“I think I do understand why he decided to do it at this particular time,” said Myers, who took over as head coach in January, 1971, before coaching 20 more years at Tech. “He felt it was the right time for him to step down and I’ll miss him. He’s done an outstanding job for this basketball program of building it up. He brought more recognition to the program, to the university and to the city of Lubbock than anybody, in my opinion. It was great to have him on our staff and he was great to work with.”

Knight said this is not a health issue, though he said, “I feel better today than I did on Saturday.”

The Red Raiders won Knight’s final game, 67-60, over Oklahoma State, leaving him with 902 career victories. He compiled 138 wins in seven seasons at Tech, compiling a 138-82 record. His .627 winning percentage is the highest in Tech men’s basketball history. Berl Huffman is second at (.609) in three seasons.
Link at: http://lubbockonline.com/stories/020408 ... 7726.shtml

...and, you're welcome.

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:42 am
by Screw_Michigan
"I don't care about 900." -- RMK

Sure you did, Bob.

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:32 pm
by indyfrisco
Screw_Michigan wrote:"I don't care about 900." -- RMK

Sure you did, Bob.
exactly.

Happy trails, Knight.

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:33 pm
by King Crimson
i guess we'll see if Pat Knight is Sean Sutton/Joey Meyer or Tony Bennett/Keno Davis (Dr. Tom's kid is 18-1 and #8 in the rpi at Drake)....

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:22 pm
by RumpleForeskin
Believe the Heupel wrote:Who the FUCK names their kid KENO?
A compulsive gambler

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:03 pm
by indyfrisco
Believe the Heupel wrote:Keno?

Who the FUCK names their kid KENO?
I don't know, but I'll pray for him.

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:04 pm
by Goober McTuber
Pat Forde rips Bobby pretty good:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/ ... ortCat=ncb" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

An awful lot of the comments I read were rippping Forde, though.

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:53 pm
by Degenerate
I'm sorry, Coach Knight. I know we're not done with gassers and that there's still thirty minutes left of practice, but I'll be leaving effective immediately. I'm just too tired.

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:40 am
by Shine
IndyFrisco wrote:
Screw_Michigan wrote:"I don't care about 900." -- RMK

Sure you did, Bob.
exactly.

Happy trails, Knight.
Riveting insight from you two on the end of the career of arguably the greatest basketball coach ever.

I'm too busy to chime in fully now but one comment from that hack Forde's article.
It would be nice if Assembly Hall's court bore the name of Indiana's greatest coach.
I guess hack doesn't realize that the IU court already has a name. It's Branch McCracken court, you know that guy who won 2 titles before Knight was ever around.

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:08 am
by Screw_Michigan
For supposedly having a college degree (it IS from Ohio State, so take that with a grain of salt), RMK was phenominal at butchering the English language. Shit, the only time he actually sounded coherent when was he was beating his players, cursing out Wayne Duke from mid-court or bullying members of the press.
RMK, Senior Day, '94 wrote:"When my time on Earth is done, and my activities here are passed, I WANT THAT THEY bury me upside down and my critics can kiss my ass."
Breaking out the Shine rolodex:

Got the most out of his players.
Taught them how to succeed at life
Straightened out Zeke
Perfect season
Defined the motion offense and set the standard for decades

I prefer to think of the utter lack of self control the man had in his life and his penchant for getting his ass kicked by 40 points in NCAA tournament games. See: Pepperdine, 2000. Etc.

Fuck RMK.

Sin,
Hick from French Lick

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:18 am
by Screw_Michigan
RMK is a giant piece of shit and only his backwards, kool-aid drinking breatheren like Shine would back him after all these years.

Shine should have put his money where he mouth was and flew to Puerto Rico and stood in for RMK during his trail for assaulting that cop.

"LEADER OF FUCKING MEN" my fucking ass. Biggest hypocrite in the history of the sport. Makes Dave Bliss look like a fucking clergyman.

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:23 am
by Screw_Michigan
Shine wrote:
It would be nice if Assembly Hall's court bore the name of Indiana's greatest coach.
I guess hack doesn't realize that the IU court already has a name. It's Branch McCracken court, you know that guy who won 2 titles before Knight was ever around.
Who you calling a fucking hack? I guess you need to brush up on your elementary CTRL-C Paula skills:
and why his name probably will never adorn that Assembly Hall hardwood.
Because, of course, two titles won back when nobody even gives a fuck is more important than three during the modern era.

Go fuck yourself, cunt.

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:32 pm
by Goober McTuber
I sometimes enjoy Forde’s columns, but that one reeked of bitterness. I always liked Bobby Knight as a coach. He was supposed to come to Wisconsin back in the early 70’s but he still had a year on his contract with Army, so it was supposed to be kept hush-hush. Somebody leaked it, Bobby denied it, and he wound up at Indiana the next year.

RACK Bobby Knight. Screw you Screw.

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:45 pm
by SunCoastSooner
Good Riddance to bad rubbish! I'm thankful that his antics and overall attitude are no longer associated with the Big 12.

I for one think it is a good thing that he will always be associated with a Big 10 school and not Texas Tech where he fiished ouyt. He's an embarressment to college basketball regardless of wins and titles!

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:09 pm
by SunCoastSooner
Mace wrote:
SunCoastSooner wrote:Good Riddance to bad rubbish! I'm thankful that his antics and overall attitude are no longer associated with the Big 12.

I for one think it is a good thing that he will always be associated with a Big 10 school and not Texas Tech where he fiished ouyt. He's an embarressment to college basketball regardless of wins and titles!
It's okay, SCS, 'cause no one will ever associate the Big 12 with college basketball.

As for Knight, he was one of the best coaches of all time. You can argue his methods, his volatile personality, whatever criticism you'd like to point out, but the bottom line is that he WON. The mold has pretty much been broken because today's players are too spoiled and too big of pussies to play for a guy like him....or Woody Hays, Vince Lombardi, or any other old school strict disciplinarian you'd like to mention. Knight turned pussies into men....except for Isaiah....he left too early to learn the lessons.

Mace
Yeah because Kansas doesn't have more national titles and tourny appearances than any school in the Big Televen.

Oklahoma and Kansas State aren't also in the top 10 all time in Final 4 appearances.

It's only the college basketball world's imagination that the Big 12 has Thirty-one (31) more NCAA tourny apperances than the Big Televen (205 > 174)

Lets not let facts get in the way of a stupid argument though, Mace.

SCS

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:36 am
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Knight was an ego maniac and extremely stubborn, but I liked the guy. He was good for the game. When you think of college basketball you think of UCLA and John Wooden. Dean Smith and UNC. Coack K and Duke. Bob Knight and Indiana. In short, Knight has a ton of good stuff in the bank that definitely outweighs the bad. He was absolutely loved by his players and is very well respected by colleagues and coaches. That being said, I'm guessing Knight couldn't care less what a few message board geeks think of him.

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:41 am
by Dinsdale
Lost in all of this, is Knight's amazing graduation rate of players. Something like 96%+.

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:42 pm
by Goober McTuber
98% of his 4-year players.

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:05 am
by Shine
SunCoastSooner wrote: Yeah because Kansas doesn't have more national titles and tourny appearances than any school in the Big Televen.
Kansas national titles- 2
Indiana national titles- 5 (2 of which were title game wins over Kansas)
Michigan St national titles- 2
Ohio St national titles- 2
Oklahoma and Kansas State aren't also in the top 10 all time in Final 4 appearances.
Most FF appearances:
1- UCLA, 17
2- UNC, 16
3- Duke, 14
4- Kentucky, 13
5- Kansas, 12
6- Ohio St, 9
7- Indiana, Louisville, 8
9- Arkansas, Cincinnati, Michigan St, Oklahoma St, 6

No OU or K-St in top 10(both have 4 each, as does Michigan, Arizona, Florida, LSU, Syracuse, UNLV and Utah)(Illinois has 5)

Only 8 of the 12 teams in the Big 12 have played in a FF, 10 of the 11 Big 10 teams have made FF trips.
It's only the college basketball world's imagination that the Big 12 has Thirty-one (31) more NCAA tourny apperances than the Big Televen (205 > 174)
Actually that's only your imagination. The Big 12 has 183 tourney appearances to the Big 10's 195. Not to mention that in the days where each conference only got 1 bid the now Big 12 was pulling 2 bids (potentially anyway) out of the Big 8 and SWC.
Lets not let facts get in the way of a stupid argument though, Mace.
SCS
At least you practice what you preach and you didn't let facts get in the way of your stupid argument.

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:13 am
by Shine
Screw_Michigan wrote: Fuck RMK.

Sin,
Hick from French Lick
I'll give you credit for being consistently off target. I guess.
Bird was born Dec. 7, 1956, in West Baden, Ind., and raised in French Lick, Ind. He averaged 31 points, 21 rebounds and four assists as a senior for Springs Valley High School, earning a scholarship to Indiana University. But the 17-year-old found the adjustment from a town of 2,059 to a campus of 33,000 confusing. After less than a month, before basketball practice even started, Bird unobtrusively returned home.

"People naturally think it was trouble between (Bobby) Knight and me, but it wasn't," Bird said. "The school was just too big. I was a homesick kid who was lost and broke."

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:19 am
by indyfrisco
No, leave it to a Hoosier to have blind loyalty which Shine suffers from.

MGO said it best. His good deeds outweighed his bad ones. I fully believe that too. He was a hell of a coach and motivator. His major flaw is he is a total asshole. The "I don't care about 900" take above is completely true. Course he did. His asshole persona could not admit it.

Congrats on a distinguished yet controversial career. As I said, happy trails. Hope he rides off into the sunset never to return in any capacity whatsoever. Maybe as an ambassador rather than a coach he would serve a much better purpose. Who knows?

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:28 am
by King Crimson
I'm not a big fan of Knight, and i played for some serious hardass "i'll make you a man/do it my way or do it again" type coaches growing up in Oklahoma and playing legion baseball.....and i can see how that works. but, i always liked watching RMK's teams play. and once every now and again he'd just baffle Kelvin Sampson (a helluva D coach himself)....and all you could do was watch it happen. easy layups and backdoor.

the 02 Sooner Final Four team lost by double digits in Lubbock that year.

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:16 pm
by Degenerate
Mace wrote:Knight turned pussies into men....except for Isaiah....he left too early to learn the lessons.
Funny you would say that lionizing someone who:

1) Quit on a team halfway through the season.
2) Handed the team over to his coddled son that hasn't ever held a legit basketball job on his own merits.

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:09 pm
by Goober McTuber
Degenerate wrote:Funny you would say that lionizing someone who:

1) Quit on a team halfway through the season.
He would have quit after last season, but he had to make sure he put that mark out of Eddie Sutton’s reach.

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:45 am
by Shine
IndyFrisco wrote:No, leave it to a Hoosier to have blind loyalty which Shine suffers from.
Wave to all the people on deck IF, you missed the boat on this one. The post Mace was referring to had nothing to do with RMK, but rather the false claims SCS put forth regarding the Big 12 vs the Big 10.* And for a guy sporting a tag on every post in support of an event that caused death to throw a barb about blind loyalty toward something that never caused anything worse than hurt feelings is amusing.

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:29 am
by indyfrisco
How many people died in construction building buildings in the last 90 years? Let's stop building.

How many people died in plane crashes in the last 90 years? Let's stop flying.

:meds:

knight is an asshole every day.

His good may have outweighed his bad, but his bad is pretty bad. Maybe two rights make a wrong in your book...

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:10 am
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
His good may have outweighed his bad, but his bad is pretty bad.
It's about a guy's legacy. Whether fair or not, whether appropriate or not, what Knight will be remembered for years from now will be his championships, "the chair," and his ability to graduate players. Everything else will be pretty irrelevant.

Re: RMK retiring immediately

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:33 pm
by indyfrisco
Don't forget his bushy brows.

I agree future generations will probably remember those things as part of his legacy. I was just speaking for myself.