T1B

Posted: **Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:14 am**

Turkey Kills 153 PKK in Iraq, Resists Calls to Halt

Turkey. The country that wouldn't allow coalition forces launch operations from it's territory?

Man, what a bunch of chumps you are.
You guys are still in charge, right?

Posted: **Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:19 am**

Once Bush read this:

I am surprised by Baghdad's weak response to this clear violation of its sovereignty.'

Scared him off from replying.

Besides that, Turkey is doing them a favor. The people they're going after are on the list.

Posted: **Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:10 am**

Mister Bushice wrote:...Turkey is doing them a favor. The people they're going after are on the list.

Turkey interdicting in a country you're (nominally) in charge makes Bush and the U.S. a laughing stock.

The Kurdish Iraqi Peshmurga can only sit by idly watching fellow Kurds die, even if they are PKK.

Posted: **Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:33 am**

I can just imagine all the headscratching going on at the AEI.

Quick, someone call Victor Davis Hanson - the American public require a really fucked up analogy.

Posted: **Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:23 am**

I'm thinking that Russia should invade Turkey from the rear.

If they did, Greece might help.

Posted: **Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:25 am**

Martyred wrote:
Mister Bushice wrote:...Turkey is doing them a favor. The people they're going after are on the list.
Turkey interdicting in a country you're (nominally) in charge makes Bush and the U.S. a laughing stock.

The Kurdish Iraqi Peshmurga can only sit by idly watching fellow Kurds die, even if they are PKK.

Bullshit. Bush is glad to have allies, any allies in his "war on terror"

He'll punish Turkey later by sending them a bloated billion dollar relief package.

That will show them.

Posted: **Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:29 am**

Mikey wrote:I'm thinking that Russia should invade Turkey from the rear.

If they did, Greece might help.

Olive oil works better.

Posted: **Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:13 am**

Feb. 25 (Bloomberg) -- Turkey said it killed 153 Kurdish fighters since sending troops into northern Iraq on Feb. 21, as it resisted calls by the U.S. to end the military operation.

So much for the spin. As for the facts...

The U.S. government and the UN, concerned that the battles may further destabilize Iraq, have urged NATO member Turkey to wrap up the incursion as soon as possible. Northern Iraq has been relatively stable since the U.S.-led invasion to topple Saddam Hussein began in 2003.

Turkish F-16 fighters, attack helicopters and artillery continued to pound about 30 suspected PKK positions in support of troops on the ground, the military said today.

Turkey has fought the PKK, branded a terrorist organization by the U.S. and the European Union, since 1984 at the cost of almost 40,000 lives. About 4,000 of the group's fighters have retreated to Iraq since their leader Abdullah Ocalan was captured and put on trial by Turkey in 1999.

The U.S. hopes the fighting will be short-lived and that Turkey will avoid civilian casualties, Defense Secretary Robert Gates told reporters on Feb. 24.

Nabi Sensoy, Turkey's ambassador to the U.S., said Turkey doesn't think it will be able to wipe out the PKK from northern Iraq and that the operation is ``aimed at enhancing the results'' of the air strikes on PKK camps along the border in December.

Full Coordination'

``Nobody is really expecting a total annihilation of the whole organization with this kind of operation, which is limited in scope,'' Sensoy said in a telephone interview today. ``This is not an operation intended to wipe out the PKK.''

Turkey doesn't intend to leave any troops inside Iraq once its objectives are completed, Sensoy said. The Turkish incursion, he said, was carried out in ``full coordination'' with the U.S.

``We have been in touch with the military and the White House and the State Department and the Pentagon over our plans for the land operation,'' Sensoy said. ``Turkey and the United States have been sharing intelligence in a very close way in the last three months.''

Sensoy said Turkey had also previewed the operation to Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and to officials from the Kurdish regional government. President Abdullah Gul has issued an invitation to Talibani to visit Turkey, Sensoy said

Not exactly what they're trying to sell.

Posted: **Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:33 pm**

Mikey wrote:I'm thinking that Russia should invade Turkey from the rear.

If they did, Greece might help.

...gay bashing?

Posted: **Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:54 pm**

mvscal wrote: They aren't very fond of communist terrorists either.

At the end of the day, they're still brother Kurds.

Blood is thicker than borscht. You'll see.

Posted: **Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:58 pm**

Diogenes wrote: The U.S. government...have urged NATO member Turkey

Ooooo...the U.S. government is "urging". Sounds tough!

Diogenes wrote:The U.S. hopes...

Hopes? I didn't realize Obama had already been inaugurated.

Somebody grab a flashlight. I think America needs help finding it's balls.

Posted: **Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:06 pm**

Martyred wrote:Somebody grab a flashlight. I think America needs help finding it's balls.

They're probably on Canada's chin.

Posted: **Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:11 pm**

Martyred wrote:
Diogenes wrote: The U.S. government...have urged NATO member Turkey to wrap up the incursion as soon as possible.
Ooooo...the U.S. government is "urging". Sounds tough!

In other words, kick the shit out of them ASAP and get it over with.

Martyred wrote:
Diogenes wrote:The U.S. hopes the fighting will be short-lived and that Turkey will avoid civilian casualties...
Hopes? I didn't realize Obama had already been inaugurated.

Somebody grab a flashlight. I think America needs help finding it's balls.

The second statement isn't valid until the first is true. And by 'short-lived' they mean <see my statement above>.

Posted: **Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:34 pm**

mvscal wrote:Now that the PUK has moved to the center and made nice with the KDP,

Hook me up with those American Enterprise Institute email blasts, would you? They seem to serve you so well.
TIA.

mvscal wrote:As long as the Turks are discrete,

Yes. A characteristic of the Turks that has held true over the centuries.

x

Posted: **Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:29 am**

mvscal wrote:It's called the Democratic Patriotic Alliance of Kurdistan. It is the Kurdish coalition party that put Jalal Talabani in the Presidency. If you knew what the fuck you were talking about, you might have heard of them.

What has that got to do with anything involving the PKK? What do Iraqi government dealings have to do with the Turks and the PKK?
This is the twenty fifth incursion into Iraq by the Turks, the previous twenty four took place with Saddam's blessing - and acheived sweet fuck all.
Turks don't differentiate between non-political Kurds and the PKK.
Three out of five PKK fighters are in the Turkish mountains, not Iraq. The Turkish army wants to flex a bit of muscle and you're going to indulge them.

Posted: **Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:37 pm**

urged NATO member Turkey to wrap up the incursion as soon as possible.

they make it sound like a photo shoot.....

"say, can you wrap it up, we need the set for the upcoming swimsuit edition"

Posted: **Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:18 pm**

mvscal wrote:
Dr_Phibes wrote:What has that got to do with anything involving the PKK?
It means they are isolated and do not have any meaningful support in the Iraqi Kurdish community.

Turks don't differentiate between non-political Kurds and the PKK.
Three out of five PKK fighters are in the Turkish mountains, not Iraq.

The longer the Turks extend their "incursion", the more chance there is that they do something really stupid in a Kurdish civilian area.

If the PKK were smart, they'd lure the Turks into a large town, and then....

:wink:

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