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I thought they looked related
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:41 pm
by Mikey
"Why can't we speak of a 'brother extraterrestrial'? It would still be part of creation," he said.
Is the Vatican now preparing us for invasion by the Empire?
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Vatican scientist says belief in God and aliens is OK
Wed May 14, 2008 7:31pm BST
By Philip Pullella
VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - The Vatican's chief astronomer says there is no conflict between believing in God and in the possibility of "extraterrestrial brothers" perhaps more evolved than humans.
"In my opinion this possibility (of life on other planets) exists," said Rev. Jose Gabriel Funes, a 45-year-old Jesuit priest who is head of the Vatican Observatory and a scientific adviser to Pope Benedict.
"How can we exclude that life has developed elsewhere," he told the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano in an interview in its Tuesday-Wednesday edition, explaining that the large number of galaxies with their own planets made this possible.
Asked if he was referring to beings similar to humans or even more evolved than humans, he said: "Certainly, in a universe this big you can't exclude this hypothesis".
In the interview headlined "The extraterrestrial is my brother," he said he saw no conflict between belief in such beings and faith in God.
"Just as there is a multiplicity of creatures on earth, there can be other beings, even intelligent, created by God. This is not in contrast with our faith because we can't put limits on God's creative freedom," he said.
"Why can't we speak of a 'brother extraterrestrial'? It would still be part of creation," he said.
Funes, who runs the observatory which is based south of Rome and in Arizona, held out the possibility that the human race might actually be the "lost sheep" of the universe.
"There could be (other beings) who remained in full friendship with their creator," he said.
THE "BIG BANG"?
Christians have sometimes been at odds with scientists over whether the Bible should be read literally and issues such as creationism versus evolution have been hotly debated for decades.
The Inquisition condemned astronomer Galileo in the 17th century for insisting that the earth revolved around the sun. The Catholic Church did not rehabilitate him until 1992.
Funes said dialogue between faith and science could be improved if scientists learned more about the Bible and the Church kept more up to date with scientific progress.
Funes, an Argentine, said he believed as an astronomer that the most likely explanation for the start of the universe was "the big bang", the theory that it sprang into existence from dense matter billions of years ago.
But he said this was not in conflict with faith in God as a creator. "God is the creator. There is a sense to creation. We are not children of an accident ...," he said.
"As an astronomer, I continue to believe that God is the creator of the universe and that we are not the product of something casual but children of a good father who has a project of love in mind for us," he said.
Re: I thought they looked related
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:09 pm
by Sirfindafold
Good God!
Have we run out of thread topics?
Re: I thought they looked related
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:21 pm
by Mikey
Apparently so.
Heard any good jokes lately?
Re: I thought they looked related
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:38 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Sirfindafold wrote:Good God!
Have we run out of thread topics?
"I'm pounding the obituaries as fast as I can. Just...need...more...time..."
Sin, Formaldehyde 42
Re: I thought they looked related
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:38 pm
by PSUFAN
Der Pope is just preaching to the choir that remains to him. A credulous nitwit that accepts his teachings is a credulous nitwit that fears little green men...no discrepancy whatsoever.
Re: I thought they looked related
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:23 am
by Bobby42
Martyred wrote:Sirfindafold wrote:Good God!
Have we run out of thread topics?
"I'm pounding the obituaries as fast as I can. Just...need...more...time..."
Sin, Formaldehyde 42
Kiss my high-yellow ass.
B42
Re: I thought they looked related
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:56 am
by Mister Bushice
mvscal wrote:Evidently Catholics accept evolution. Good for them. The fundie thumpers aren't going to like it, though.
Now if only they could stop molesting children...
So many children, so few priests.

Re: I thought they looked related
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:14 pm
by Felix
mvscal wrote:
Now if only they could stop molesting children...
I attended a catholic funeral yesterday and noticed the altar "boys" were in fact girls
I guess the Catholics are trying to remove temptation
fukkin crazy times we live in
Re: I thought they looked related
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 3:44 pm
by Jerkovich
Mister Bushice wrote:mvscal wrote:Evidently Catholics accept evolution. Good for them. The fundie thumpers aren't going to like it, though.
Now if only they could stop molesting children...
So many children, so few priests.

Pickle, did you catch that the jiggaboo is left sitting on the ground out of reach?
Re: I thought they looked related
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:53 pm
by PSUFAN
The Big Pickle wrote:
If you think that White people evolved from negroes you are a complete dimwit!
Your bleach-blonde former girlfriend would probably use the word
deevolution, and call it a wrap.
Re: I thought they looked related
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:08 pm
by PSUFAN
Why? Who fucked him?
--sin,
Ken
Re: I thought they looked related
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:18 pm
by Risa
Hi, JSC. That's a dope pangaia/pangaea animation you've included. It'd be even better if it did a 'The Time Machine (the remake)' and showed what earth will look like when the landmasses collide again. But that is pretty dope. As for the human evolution chart, it makes me chuckle because it reminds me vaguely of one of your gastrointestinal hospital charts. Again, I'm glad the doctors fixed that shit.
Mikey, thank you for the original link and story. This is definitely something the old Lizard King (or Jess, or in a pinch the Art Bell lovers at dot net) would have hopped up on, and added something illuminating to regarding life on Mars (and maybe Titan, given it's volcanic activity? things happen around sources of energy....)
Pickle, you sound like one of the fundies who tried to smack down Darwin and Darrow last century.

I never would have pegged you for a fundie. By the way, the racial aspect of 'intelligent design/creationism' pushes in this country really hasn't been explored as it should be. The fear isn't of monkeys/apes, it's of Africans. Anyway, may I ask, what's your religious background?
Edit: Roach, this is for you. NSFW, though, maybe (even if there are no humans in it, some places are trigger happy with the sexual harassment suits)
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No, I don't know what's going on in Thailand.
Re: I thought they looked related
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:42 pm
by Risa
Pickle's not gay. He has issues with black men. So do most of the non-black people on this board. So do you, mvscal. Why damn him, for your own shortcoming?
Re: I thought they looked related
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:47 pm
by PSUFAN
Pickle was sick of the white man's shortcoming. Now he's deep-dicked by each and every Nubian that approaches him with 5 shekels in hand, and loving life. Heck, did you really think he was being nice just 'cuz? He's deeply and darkly fulfilled - and thankful to you by association.
Re: I thought they looked related
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:22 pm
by Risa
PSUFan, what I have to write about that will be labeled as racebaiting. Short leash.
Mvscal, I don't know who those guys are in the photos, or what their employment is versus their hobbies. What does an acceptable male physique look like, around this board? How many men, here, meet it or exceed it? How many just need a little work? How many say 'fuck it'?
So, who are the guys, and what do they do for a living? what do they do as a hobby? And Pickle still isn't gay.
Re: I thought they looked related
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:42 pm
by Risa
And Don Rickles is swishing semen in that puckered faced avatar you're sporting. See how that works? No, really, how are they, and what are those guys' employments? Besides, I thought pretty boy gay men hated body hair -- that's a lot of body hair in those photos. Is that a new thing? Old photos?
Re: I thought they looked related
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:43 pm
by Sol
Risa wrote:And Don Rickles is swishing semen in that puckered faced avatar you're sporting. See how that works? No, really, how are they, and what are those guys' employments? Besides, I thought pretty boy gay men hated body hair -- that's a lot of body hair in those photos. Is that a new thing? Old photos?
Ask Pickle. He posted them.
Re: I thought they looked related
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:57 am
by Risa
Thank you for the information, Pickle. Alan doesn't look all-white. The first photo he looks like has has some vague hawaiian/asian/latino in him. The second photo looks like he has some vague italian in him. He has pretty eyes, and the bottom lip is black. Did he also share your views on blacks?
I don't have anything to say about the shorts in the first photo except that everybody used to wear belts instead of slouch style, and the NBA was still wearing nuthugger shorts even shorter than his cuffeds back in 1989. Your shirt, on the other hand, looks like something out of the Cosby show ha! Trust, I remember those patterns. It looks nice, but again, given your views I'm surprised you wore it... except that, again, style is style and styles bleed between cultures and classes. Alan looks like he's packing a little. I don't know, just the way the fabric bunches. Do you have any photos of him in a speedo? It's alright if you don't. I just wanted more exact dimensions of the 'full package'. Back on topic, you do have to watch out when you work out a lot that people don't think you're gay, gold's gym version. That's why I asked about jobs and hobbies. Some jobs and professional hobbies you can't help but get super-ripped, like Alan is, because you do it all day. You're not looking in the mirror all day.
Was Alan also in the army?
You should do the toothy smile more. If that is you. Remember, there are several photos floating around.
(and Hi, Sol. Is that a Hrana goddess portrait?)
Re: I thought they looked related
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:12 am
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Look, Pickle's not gay. He just likes to take photos with other men in EXTREMELY gay poses. Alright?
Re: I thought they looked related
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:33 am
by Mikey
Yes, Alan does appear to be part black.
This "part":
No wonder you're such good butties with him, Pickle.
Is that what happens when you put your arm around him, or is it just his normal state?
Re: I thought they looked related
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:49 am
by PSUFAN
Damn...Mikey got out his Meat Highlight MS Paint plugin. It's on now.
Re: I thought they looked related
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:58 am
by Mikey
PSUFAN wrote:Damn...Mikey got out his Meat Highlight MS Paint plugin. It's on now.
I've been waiting for just the right chance to try that plugin out.
Pretty cool, hunh?
Re: I thought they looked related
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:03 am
by PSUFAN
Regarding his package, I only know what the girls told me
Pardon, but as a hetero male, I just can't understand how this would come to be. No straight dude would be asking "the girls" about the dude's package. I know why you were asking them, but weren't they confused as to why you pretended you didn't know?
Anyway, your garbling of "Black Irish" was entertaining to read, nimrod.
Re: I thought they looked related
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:09 am
by PSUFAN
Romans had very little contact with the Irish.
Re: I thought they looked related
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:29 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
The Big Pickle wrote:and it was the general consensus that he was PACKING some heavy artillery....somewhere in the 10 to 12 range.

"Giggity giggity goo!"