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Of course media outlets are biased.


Sin,

Would you like some cheese with that whine?

BSmack wrote:Would you like some cheese with that whine?

...NO, just your sincere observation.

ChargerMike wrote:

BSmack wrote:Would you like some cheese with that whine?

...NO, just your sincere observation.

My sincere observation is that your side is employing the same double standard they accuse others of, only in reverse. I'm decidedly underwhelmed.

The difference is, Huckadouche would turn the country into a rigid theocracy instead of the socialist paradise that Obigot would make it.

BSmack wrote:

ChargerMike wrote:

BSmack wrote:Would you like some cheese with that whine?

...NO, just your sincere observation.

My sincere observation is that your side is employing the same double standard they accuse others of, only in reverse. I'm decidedly underwhelmed.

...are we still talking media bias?

ChargerMike wrote:...are we still talking media bias?

I'm sorry, I missed the part where the media wasn't covering this. I take it you were in Kentucky and witnessed this all by yourself?

BSmack wrote:

ChargerMike wrote:...are we still talking media bias?

I'm sorry, I missed the part where the media wasn't covering this. I take it you were in Kentucky and witnessed this all by yourself?

I'm talking media bias...you're talking coverage. Lets get back to your statement and how it concerns the topic at hand, or are you trying to change the subject?

"My sincere observation is that your side is employing the same double standard they accuse others of"

I know you wouldn't make a statement unless you had a valid example Bri., so pull it out and show me where the media took a freeking bookcase in the background, turned it into a cross and portrayed a Democratic candidate as a religious zealot.

ChargerMike wrote:I'm talking media bias...you're talking coverage.

The problem is, the whole point of the article you linked to is that coverage, or lack thereof equals bias. Obviously the subject in question is being covered or a bbs poster in San Diego wouldn't know what the hell is going on in an Obama campaign office in Kentucky.

Lets get back to your statement and how it concerns the topic at hand, or are you trying to change the subject?

"My sincere observation is that your side is employing the same double standard they accuse others of"

I know you wouldn't make a statement unless you had a valid example Bri., so pull it out and show me where the media took a freeking bookcase in the background, turned it into a cross and portrayed a Democratic candidate as a religious zealot.

Apples and hand grenades Evel. Your side is now bitching about Obama using religious imagery the same way the left bitched about Huckabee. That's the comparison. My take is that I could give a fuck.

BSmack wrote:

ChargerMike wrote:I'm talking media bias...you're talking coverage.

The problem is, the whole point of the article you linked to is that coverage, or lack thereof equals bias. Obviously the subject in question is being covered or a bbs poster in San Diego wouldn't know what the hell is going on in an Obama campaign office in Kentucky.

Lets get back to your statement and how it concerns the topic at hand, or are you trying to change the subject?

"My sincere observation is that your side is employing the same double standard they accuse others of"

I know you wouldn't make a statement unless you had a valid example Bri., so pull it out and show me where the media took a freeking bookcase in the background, turned it into a cross and portrayed a Democratic candidate as a religious zealot.

Apples and hand grenades Evel. Your side is now bitching about Obama using religious imagery the same way the left bitched about Huckabee. That's the comparison. My take is that I could give a fuck.

...no, my side is bitching that the media is crucifying (humor) Huckabee because some hack suddenly sees a cross in the dividers of a bookcase, and give Obama a complete pass on his pandering to Evangelicals.

ChargerMike wrote:...no, my side is bitching that the media is crucifying (humor) Huckabee because some hack suddenly sees a cross in the dividers of a bookcase, and give Obama a complete pass on his pandering to Evangelicals.

Pandering? Make up your mind dude. Is it only OK for Republicans to use religious imagery?

BSmack wrote:

ChargerMike wrote:...no, my side is bitching that the media is crucifying (humor) Huckabee because some hack suddenly sees a cross in the dividers of a bookcase, and give Obama a complete pass on his pandering to Evangelicals.

Pandering? Make up your mind dude. Is it only OK for Republicans to use religious imagery?

Spin Spin Spin

You know damned well ChargerMike is pointing out the obvious fact that when a Republican poises in front of a religious symbol he's "crucified" yet when a Democract like Obama does - it barely gets a mention.

It is okay for either of them to exploit religion in order to get votes ? I don't think so. I think it's insulting. Propose ideas to better the country and vote on issues that serve to serve this country. I don't give a flying fuck what you on Sunday, that's your business.

Obama is probably the most egregious panderer running in this election.

Tom In VA wrote:

BSmack wrote:

ChargerMike wrote:...no, my side is bitching that the media is crucifying (humor) Huckabee because some hack suddenly sees a cross in the dividers of a bookcase, and give Obama a complete pass on his pandering to Evangelicals.

Pandering? Make up your mind dude. Is it only OK for Republicans to use religious imagery?

Spin Spin Spin

You know damned well ChargerMike is pointing out the obvious fact that when a Republican poises in front of a religious symbol he's "crucified" yet when a Democract like Obama does - it barely gets a mention.

It is okay for either of them to exploit religion in order to get votes ? I don't think so. I think it's insulting. Propose ideas to better the country and vote on issues that serve to serve this country. I don't give a flying fuck what you on Sunday, that's your business.

Obama is probably the most egregious panderer running in this election.

...I rest my case.

Tom In VA wrote:Spin Spin Spin

You know damned well ChargerMike is pointing out the obvious fact that when a Republican poises in front of a religious symbol he's "crucified" yet when a Democract like Obama does - it barely gets a mention.

Obviously it is getting mentioned. Perhaps you noticed?

It is okay for either of them to exploit religion in order to get votes ? I don't think so. I think it's insulting. Propose ideas to better the country and vote on issues that serve to serve this country. I don't give a flying fuck what you on Sunday, that's your business.

Obviously people in Appalachia feel differently. Obama would be a fool not to point out the faith he has in common with those voters.

Obama is probably the most egregious panderer running in this election.

That must be why he came out in favor of the farce that was the gas tax "holiday".

Would you feel better if Obama promised to make Colin Powell Secretary of State?

BSmack wrote: Would you feel better if Obama promised to make Colin Powell Secretary of State?

Probably but he'd have to throw in Walter Williams to replace Bernake. :)

BMonica = tool of the highest order.

its plain to see.

Tom In VA wrote: You know damned well ChargerMike is pointing out the obvious fact that when a Republican poises in front of a religious symbol he's "crucified" yet when a Democract like Obama does - it barely gets a mention.

Oh... well, it's just taken for granted that the DemocRat doesn't really believe all that; it's just for show- you know, to fool the knuckle dragging rubes who do believe.

Tom In VA wrote:Of course media outlets are biased.


Sin,

MARCUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! good to see an old reset. :) Anyway, some of you all are being facetious (I'm not talking about you, Tom) and willfully ignorant. The reason why Obama emphasizing his faith is different from Huckabee -- or anyone else -- emphasizing their faith is because of the rumors going around about Obama being a secret muslim, being the manchurian muslim, being a black muslim bent on 'getting payback on whites', being a half Arab and not really half black, being a muslim because of where he went to school as a child in Indonesia, being a muslim because his father was a muslim as if religion is something that can be passed on genetically (Jews should never have allowed that bullshit thinking to flourish).

You know, the stupid shit like that which doesn't die no matter how often folks like Snopes (or Obama's own autobiography) dismantle the unsubstantiated rumors. Obama emphasizes his Christianity to force the rumormongers who hate muslims -- or who won't vote for a black man, but don't have the balls to say that in public -- to step back and find another tact.

If you want to explore the media bias angle, first discover who owns the media.

I like Thomas Sowell as the head of OMB.

Obama would have my vote LOCKED.

Martyred wrote:If you want to explore the media bias angle, first discover who owns the media.

The Juice ?

The BIG difference between the two ads is that Obama is being up front with what he is doing, while Fuckabee tried to play a little head game with his ad.

I am not sold on the depth of Obama's faith in Christ, so I take the ad for what it is -- political pandering.
Happens routinely.

Fuckabee's ad, on the other hand, was a deceptive little mind game.
Just laughable shit.

I'd NEVER vote for either jerk off.

I'm not sold on poptarts faith in Christ, or his ability to vote.

So go fuck yourself.

Whitey,

Do not drink and post.

Go fuck yourself.

poptart wrote:The BIG difference between the two ads is that Obama is being up front with what he is doing, while Fuckabee tried to play a little head game with his ad.

I am not sold on the depth of Obama's faith in Christ, so I take the ad for what it is -- political pandering.
Happens routinely.

Fuckabee's ad, on the other hand, was a deceptive little mind game.
Just laughable shit.

I'd NEVER vote for either jerk off.

WTF? Subliminal? He was talking about xmas. He pointed out that xmas is supposed to be about christ. If he was talking about mohammad and slid in a cross, you might call it subliminal, but, that wasn't the case.

Was it just a fukking bookcase or a bookcase lit up to be a cross? WGARA.

I hate it when I gotta defend a slick talking pos like huckleberry.

As for obama being phony about something, wow, there's a fukking news flash.

I think I am pretty much decided that I am voting a straight line whig ticket this year.

smackaholic wrote:I think I am pretty much decided that I am voting a straight line whig ticket this year.

Log Cabins and Hard Cider in Connecticut?

mvscal wrote:God Damn America is a loser of a campaign slogan.

Too bad for you that is not Obama's slogan. Oh sure, I expect Republicans to try to use it again, even after if failed miserably in not 1, but 3 different blood red Congressional districts. It dovetails nicely with their Iraq strategy of repeating the same failed policy over and over again whilst expecting different results.

Invading Iraq was a new strategy implemented because the old one didn't work.

Again, by what criteria are you measuring the success and/or failure of Iraq ?

mvscal wrote:

BSmack wrote:Too bad for you that is not Obama's slogan.

You're about to find out differently.

You were the same fool who said Obama would never be nominated. You'll pardon me if I don't pay any attention to your powers of prognostication.

BSmack wrote:

mvscal wrote:

BSmack wrote:Too bad for you that is not Obama's slogan.

You're about to find out differently.

You were the same fool who said Obama would never be nominated. You'll pardon me if I don't pay any attention to your powers of prognostication.

he HASN'T been nominated yet dipfuck!

titlover wrote:he HASN'T been nominated yet dipfuck!

So are you saying he WON'T be nominated? Because if you are, you're a dumbfuck of monumental proportions.

Tom In VA wrote:
Again, by what criteria are you measuring the success and/or failure of Iraq ?

Bleeding buckets of money...no end in sight...vets sleeping in cardboard boxes...

I love it. Don't stop.

Absolutely nothing new under the sun in time of war, unfortunately.

Bleeding Buckets of Money = Paying Defense Contractors, Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines who in turn spend money within their respective communities. Remember that for each "evil" corporation there are thousands of employees cashing a paycheck to pay their mortgage, car bill, and send Jr. off to college. Furthermore, there are even more thousands whose 401K programs and investments are tied to the same.

The money gets recirculated. Does it not ?


Cold War for how long ? Stalemate in N. Korea for how long ? Troops still "occupying" the Rhineland and other parts of Europe and Asia ? There is no end in sight. Once we stuck our Eagle's beak into foreign affairs starting with Teddy Roosevelt we hopped on a roller coaster ride that took us through WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and countless "skirmishes" in between each. I don't foresee an ability to peacefully "contract" until we come up with an energy policy that doesn't rely on foreign oil and will enable us to compete with folks like - China - that will get more oil.


Vets have always gotten a raw deal.


Not saying this is all "right", but it's not new and it doesn't equate to "failure" in the immediate sense of the word.

More will be revealed. "Success" in my mind is when we can sustain ourselves nationally and tell the rest of the world - especially your ilk Marty :facetiousthumbofthenose: - to go fuck themselves.

Failure, to me, is when your dreams come true.

The story is still unfolding.

mvscal wrote:

Tom In VA wrote:Once we stuck our Eagle's beak into foreign affairs starting with Teddy Roosevelt

It started with Thomas Jefferson and it was only with heroic exertion on the part of John Adams that it didn't start during his administration.

Thank you for the correction. I thought Teddy was the one that pushed for us to "get in the game".

Tom In VA wrote: Bleeding Buckets of Money = Paying Defense Contractors, Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines who in turn spend money within their respective communities.

The money gets recirculated. Does it not ?

Ahhh, yes. The "trickle down" economic theory as evidenced by wounded vets buying prosthetic limbs.

CHA-CHING! There goes another happy customer!

You lucky capitalists, always with the business savvy...

mvscal wrote:The United States has had global interests from its inception. Hell we wouldn't even exist if it weren't for "foreign entanglements."

Reference the Quasi-war and XYZ Affair for background on Adams' tribulations in the late 1700s if you're interested.

Will do. I vaguely remember the XYZ now that you mention it. I just remember the implications being that the Rough RIder was the man who focused on building a Navy and "projecting power" so to speak to the next level.