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Posted: **Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:21 pm**

Report: Ohio teacher burned cross on kids' arms

MOUNT VERNON, Ohio (AP) -- A public school teacher preached his Christian beliefs despite complaints by other teachers and administrators and used a device to burn the image of a cross on students' arms, according to a report by independent investigators.

Mount Vernon Middle School teacher John Freshwater also taught creationism in his science class and was insubordinate in failing to remove a Bible and other religious materials from his classroom, the report said.

School board members were scheduled to meet Friday afternoon to discuss the findings by consulting firm H.R. On Call Inc., hired by the district to investigate. The report was released Thursday.

School Superintendent Stephen Short wouldn't comment on the report before Friday's meeting, his office said. A message seeking comment was left for Freshwater's attorney, Roger Weaver.

The report comes one week after a family filed a federal lawsuit in Columbus against Freshwater and the school district, saying Freshwater burned a cross on their child's arm that remained for three or four weeks.

Freshwater's friend Dave Daubenmire defended him.

"With the exception of the cross-burning episode ... I believe John Freshwater is teaching the values of the parents in the Mount Vernon school district," he told The Columbus Dispatch in a story published Friday.

Several students interviewed by investigators described Freshwater, who has been employed by the school district for 21 years, as a great guy.

But Lynda Weston, the district's director of teaching and learning, told investigators that she has dealt with complaints about Freshwater for much of her 11-year term at the district, the report said.

A former superintendent, Jeff Maley, said he tried to find another position for Freshwater but couldn't because Freshwater was certified only in science, the report said.

Freshwater used a science tool known as a high-frequency generator to burn images of a cross on students' arms in December, the report said. Freshwater told investigators he simply was trying to demonstrate the device on several students and described the images as an "X," not a cross. But pictures show the images depict a cross, the report said.

Other findings show that Freshwater taught that carbon dating was unreliable to argue against evolution.

Right from the AP.

Sincerely,

Goober42

Posted: **Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:40 pm**

Yeah--good thing the non-Christians don't do or teach wacky things in school !
Nothing like the broad brush-- right Goobs ?

Posted: **Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:03 pm**

Posted: **Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:39 pm**

Posted: **Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:27 am**

Freshwater's friend Dave Daubenmire defended him.

"With the exception of the cross-burning episode ... I believe John Freshwater is teaching the values of the parents in the Mount Vernon school district," he told The Columbus Dispatch in a story published Friday.

And by that you can infer "will vote for McCain."

Posted: **Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:45 pm**

Wolfman wrote:Yeah--good thing the non-Christians don't do or teach wacky things in school !
Nothing like the broad brush-- right Goobs ?

Post a story then, Wolfie. Show me where a non-Christian is burning "666"s onto our kids.

Posted: **Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:52 pm**

Goober McTuber wrote:
Wolfman wrote:Yeah--good thing the non-Christians don't do or teach wacky things in school !
Nothing like the broad brush-- right Goobs ?
Post a story then, Wolfie. Show me where a non-Christian is burning "666"s onto our kids.

That'll cause the curmudgeon to sputter into a coronary.

Posted: **Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:08 pm**

If this guy goes to jail, as I surely BELIEVE he should, he'll be targeted for some pretty neat homemade tattoos.

OH LORD!! BRING THIS SINNER TO JUSTICE, AND LET BSMACK PAY YOUR TOOL WOLFIE BACK!!!!

Posted: **Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:35 pm**

Yeah Heaven forbid he be tried by a jury and his guilt or innocence be determined.

No, no, no. An INTERNET news article, said he did it, so he must have done it.

Suck it up wolfie, payback is a bitch. The Christians did it for years and it's come full circle.

Posted: **Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:46 pm**

Even his friend appears to freely admit that the dude defaced kids' bodies. Dude should go to jail for that.

Posted: **Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:19 pm**

PSUFAN wrote:Even his friend appears to freely admit that the dude defaced kids' bodies. Dude should go to jail for that.

You're such a puss. It's not like it's permanent or anything. It fades in a few weeks, so what's the harm? Besides, like dude said, it's just an "X," not a cross. I always liked that band.

Posted: **Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:44 pm**

Smackie Chan wrote:
PSUFAN wrote:Even his friend appears to freely admit that the dude defaced kids' bodies. Dude should go to jail for that.
You're such a puss. It's not like it's permanent or anything. It fades in a few weeks, so what's the harm? Besides, like dude said, it's just an "X," not a cross. I always liked that band.

Then I guess it's a good thing the teacher wasn't a fan of The Presidents of the United States of America.

Posted: **Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:33 pm**

Goober McTuber wrote:
Wolfman wrote:Yeah--good thing the non-Christians don't do or teach wacky things in school !
Nothing like the broad brush-- right Goobs ?
Post a story then, Wolfie. Show me where a non-Christian is burning "666"s onto our kids.

How about some stories where non-christians are... CHOPPING PEOPLE'S HEADS OFF?

Dildo.

Posted: **Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:37 pm**

Cuda wrote:Dildo.

Perhaps I'm the one who is now easily amused, but that made me laugh 'cuz it's been a long time since I've seen or heard someone called that. I went to junior high school with a kid named Pepe Padilla, who was always called Pepe Padildo. I'm having flashbacks.

Posted: **Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:43 pm**

You should RACK! me then

Posted: **Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:44 pm**

Let's not go overboard.

Posted: **Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:14 pm**

Cuda wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:
Wolfman wrote:Yeah--good thing the non-Christians don't do or teach wacky things in school !
Nothing like the broad brush-- right Goobs ?
Post a story then, Wolfie. Show me where a non-Christian is burning "666"s onto our kids.
How about some stories where non-christians are... CHOPPING PEOPLE'S HEADS OFF?

I'm sorry, did that happen in an American public school? Moron.

Posted: **Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:30 pm**

Goober McDipshit wrote:

Post a story then, Wolfie. Show me where a non-Christian is burning "666"s onto our kids.
How about some stories where non-christians are... CHOPPING PEOPLE'S HEADS OFF?
I'm sorry, did that happen in an American public school? Moron.

And where did you specify this? Nowhere, that's where. And trying to set that condition after taking a plunger in the ass is not exactly persuasive.

Posted: **Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:09 pm**

Cuda wrote:
Goober McDipshit wrote:I'm sorry, did that happen in an American public school? Moron.
And where did you specify this? Nowhere, that's where. And trying to set that condition after taking a plunger in the ass is not exactly persuasive.

C'mon, Coods. Does it really have to be spelled out for you?

1. The article is about a public school teacher in Ohio.
2. Wolfie's lame reply specified, "Yeah--good thing the non-Christians don't do or teach wacky things in school !
3. Gobbles's reply was, "Show me where a non-Christian is burning "666"s onto our kids.

Seems like it should be pretty clear to even, well, you, that the discussion wasn't about goings on in other parts of the world. Yeah, I know you're defense is gonna be, "But Smackie, look at the thread title. Dildo!" That's really reaching, don't you think? Wait - before answering, maybe you should check and see how Lou Dobbs weighs in on this.

Posted: **Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:23 pm**

Smackie Chan wrote: 3. Gobbles's reply was, "Show me where a non-Christian is burning "666"s onto our kids.

And that is the only relevant part, really. Context is something that Gobbles McTubesteak only takes refuge in after he's been plungered

Posted: **Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:35 pm**

Cuda wrote:
Smackie Chan wrote: 3. Gobbles's reply was, "Show me where a non-Christian is burning "666"s onto our kids.
And that is the only relevant part, really. Context is something that Gobbles McTubesteak only takes refuge in after he's been plungered

He posted that before you made an appearance in this thread, and he had no impetus to "take refuge" from you or anyone else ('cept Wolfie, but let's be real - a wet paper towel is sufficient refuge from that). And if what McTubesteak has had to endure so far can be considered being "plungered," then that term has been seriously diluted.

Posted: **Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:06 pm**

Goober McTuber wrote:Right from the AP.

Sincerely,

Goober42

Goddammit, Goober. Have a fucking take.

And you could have provided a pic. Nah, much too difficult. Here ya go.

Posted: **Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:12 pm**

I can understand how that could be construed as an "X" rather than a cross. If I was Stevie Wonder.

Posted: **Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:22 am**

Yea, you can say it's the wierd wacky Christians, but this is the kind of guy who gets rejected from teaching in a Christian school in the first round of applications. That is why he is doing his particular "brand" of weirdness in a public school. Cause I'm sure he applied to a ton of Christian schools and they saw how freaking weird he was and gave him the polite letter of...thanks for applying and we just don't have a place for you right now, and the unspoken idea of "and won't til hell freezes over".

Posted: **Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:12 am**

Smackie Chan wrote: I went to junior high school with a kid named Pepe Padilla, who was always called Pepe Padildo. I'm having flashbacks.

Oh shit, I can beat that. There was this quite undatable girl in my HS with a hairy mole on one cheek and the trace of a black 'stache at age 14 and she smelled like day-old sweat (or maybe that was the bus).

Her name was Donna Rocha, but she was tagged Donnarhea when that mole began sprouting black grass in 8th grade and that stuck for all four HS years. If not for the nuns censoring the yearbook, she would have been glossed that way in there, too.

She seemed to take it in stride. No word on if she ever became a postal employee though.

Posted: **Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:47 pm**

Smackie Chan wrote: And if what McTubesteak has had to endure so far can be considered being "plungered," then that term has been seriously diluted.

You can call it whatever you'd like. Point is, Gobbles started this out as a blanket-condemnation of christians, which is indicated by the thread title. You'll notice it doesn't say "Those Wierd, Wacky Christian School Teachers"

Posted: **Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:57 pm**

It started out as bait, you fucking moron. Worked well as such.

Posted: **Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:02 pm**

What will your next "bait" thread be titled, "Come Bitch-Slap Me"?

Posted: **Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:03 pm**

a blanket-condemnation of christians

That's what the Theology Forum is for, you priest-grabbed simpleton.

Posted: **Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:05 pm**

Cuda wrote:What will your next "bait" thread be titled, "Come Bitch-Slap Me"?

You're welcome to try. Based on what I've seen from you over the years, I'm not terribly concerned.

Posted: **Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:56 pm**

Papa Willie wrote:
Cuda wrote:What will your next "bait" thread be titled, "Come Bitch-Slap Me"?
He's been a little pissed that I've been using him as a token Flipper here lately. :D

What you’ve been doing lately is your standard imitation of a message board mosquito. Whenever somebody bitchslaps you upside your misshapen head, you made them “jump”. You made them “melt”. You imagine that people are angry with you, that they hate you. You’re such a pitiful tard, it’s almost funny.

No, it actually is funny.

Posted: **Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:11 pm**

message board mosquito....

rack.

Where can I get me some message board off?

Posted: **Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:23 pm**

Wolfman wrote:Yeah--good thing the non-Christians don't do or teach wacky things in school !
Nothing like the broad brush-- right Goobs ?

I keep coming back to this. Regardless of the guy's professed faith, he's a fucking lunatic. It's unwise to paint with a broad brush, either in defending the guy or in cracking on him.

Posted: **Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:29 pm**

Goober may be a dipshit, PUS, but calling him a lunatic might be a little over the top.

... well, maybe not.

Carry on...

Posted: **Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:58 pm**

Yeah, that whacko is an isolated case!

Sin,
the Phelps (forked) family tree

Posted: **Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:09 am**

PSUFAN wrote:
Wolfman wrote:Yeah--good thing the non-Christians don't do or teach wacky things in school !
Nothing like the broad brush-- right Goobs ?
I keep coming back to this. Regardless of the guy's professed faith, he's a fucking lunatic. It's unwise to paint with a broad brush, either in defending the guy or in cracking on him.

Of course it' unwise to paint with a broad brush, this guy - presumably guilty - however definitely deserves to be branded a lunatic.

Posted: **Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:04 am**

Diego in Seattle wrote:Yeah, that whacko is an isolated case!

Sin,
the Phelps (forked) family tree

Fuck off, short-eyes

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