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America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:40 am
by Diogenes
Ex-Chargers LB Foley will settle lawsuit for $5.5M
By ELLIOT SPAGAT – Jul 7, 2008
SAN DIEGO (AP) — Former Chargers linebacker Steve Foley has agreed to settle his lawsuit for $5.5 million against a police officer who shot him while off-duty two years ago, ending his pro football career.
Foley struck the agreement with the city of Coronado and Officer Aaron Mansker last week, on the day he was scheduled to testify in his civil trial in San Diego Superior Court, but the terms were not released until Monday.
"He's going to be able to get on with his life and bring some closure," said Foley's attorney Harvey Levine.
The Coronado City Council approved the settlement Monday, said Mayor Tom Smisek.
The city, an upscale peninsular enclave on San Diego Bay, will pay the entire $5.5 million, Smisek said. Insurance will cover all but $100,000, which will come out of city coffers.
City Attorney Steve Boehmer, who represents the city and Mansker, did not respond to a phone message.
Foley, 32, was shot in his leg, hip and hand in September 2006 after Mansker tailed his car home from downtown San Diego to suburban Poway, 15 miles north, on suspicion that the driver was drunk.
Mansker, then a 23-year-old rookie officer, was driving his personal car and wearing a T-shirt and jeans when he twice pulled up next to Foley and ordered the player to pull over. Foley ignored the orders and drove home because Mansker didn't identify himself as a police officer, Levine said during the trial.
The two men confronted one another in Foley's cul-de-sac. Mansker testified at the trial that he fired when he saw Foley reach for his waistband, thinking the player had a gun.
Foley pleaded guilty in 2007 to misdemeanor drunken driving.
He was released two years early from his contract with the Chargers in March 2007 and has moved to Houston, where he is caring for his 11-year-old daughter and plans to complete his college degree, Levine said.
Mansker was cleared of criminal liability after the San Diego County district attorney's office found he shot in self-defense. Mansker was honored by Mothers Against Drunk Driving at a luncheon in March for making 57 drunken driving arrests in 2007.
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Scumbag is still in uniform.
For the record,in the last 25 years San Diego county has the highest number of police shootings per capita of any major metropolitan area in the US.
The number found unwarranted? Zero.
And BTW, the week before the shooting (just coincidence, I'm sure...)
On Sunday, the sheriff's department issued a statement that Foley's car, driven by his friend, had been driving erratically, "weaving at high speeds." The statement failed to mention just how Mansker happened to be in position to follow Foley and why he didn't so much as send a smoke signal for assistance. The statement also didn't address Foley's recent - and scalding - history with the San Diego police force. In April, police arrested Foley for multiple crimes including resisting arrest, battery of an officer, and public intoxication. Last week, the DA dropped the case and cleared him of all charges. And now Foley's shot. "Stinks like a beached whale"? More like a beached Bull Connor.
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Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:35 am
by Adelpiero
For the record,in the last 25 years San Diego county has the highest number of police shootings per capita of any major metropolitan area in the US
rack SD cops, other cities need to step up
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:45 am
by Diogenes
Jacob Richard Faust
Jacob grew up in the San Diego area. He was very quiet as a child, but had a constant twinkle in his eyes and a blinding smile. He always loved a good practical joke, and had a magical sense of humor. Jake spent his high school years playing guitar in a worship band at Horizon Christian Fellowship and also spent that time counseling kids for Youth Development International, a suicide prevention hot line. He was given the Phillip Award for discipleship at Horizon High School where he graduated in 1998. Jake loved people and always looked at the world through eyes of wonder and astonishment. He had the heart of a poet and the eyes of a seer.
Jacob's passion was music, and he could play any instrument he picked up. His most cherished possession was a 1903 pump organ on which he composed many pieces. He would put it in the back of his van and haul it to any place someone would allow him an audience. He loved a wide variety of music, with favorites including Django Reinhardt and Tom Waits. He also loved to dance and could move as gracefully or as comically as he chose to at any given moment.
He was a former funeral director at Glen Abbey Mortuary, where he was well known and served people with a heart of compassion. Jacob was a gentle man, an amazingly talented dancer, writer, and actor with an incredibly sweet disposition and a smile always ready. He was well read and followed current events with a keen interest.
On April 4, 2005, Jacob Faust was shot to death by San Diego Police Officer Keaton ID 4495 and Officer Holliday ID 5030 after a "routine" traffic stop for apparent unwillingness to get out of his van. He was 25. Jake had previously witnessed and been exposed to harassment and abuse by the San Diego Police Department and had filed a complaint against them just a few weeks before. The Internal Affairs division had been investigating this in the weeks prior to his murder. Jacob was a pacifist. He had no criminal history.
It's all about Saigon Penn.
The rest of us just live for their whims. If we get to.
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:18 pm
by Loganfan
Diogenes wrote:Jacob Richard Faust
On April 4, 2005, Jacob Faust was shot to death by San Diego Police Officer Keaton ID 4495 and Officer Holliday ID 5030 after a "routine" traffic stop for apparent unwillingness to get out of his van. He was 25. Jake had previously witnessed and been exposed to harassment and abuse by the San Diego Police Department and had filed a complaint against them just a few weeks before. The Internal Affairs division had been investigating this in the weeks prior to his murder. Jacob was a pacifist. He had no criminal history.
It's all about Saigon Penn.
The rest of us just live for their whims. If we get to.
Maybe he should have gotten out of his fucking van. People......if the cops tell you to do something...especially here in town, then fucking do it. And double especially if you're somewhere like IN YOUR VAN where they can't see your hands
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:28 pm
by Cuda
well, we really won't know the whole story until the guy's grandmother* weighs in
* or MgoBlueLightVagLip
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:36 pm
by Loganfan
mvscal wrote:Loganfan wrote:Maybe he should have gotten out of his fucking van.
Or face summary execution? Niiice brainless bootlicker.
Can't see the dude's hands if he won't get out of the van, douche
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:25 pm
by Loganfan
mvscal wrote:Loganfan wrote:Can't see the dude's hands if he won't get out of the van, douche
Oh, I see. So if you happen to be walking down the street with your hands in your pockets, cops are allowed to roll up on you and blow your head off since they can't see your hands?
You're a fucking moron.
Dude, you argue just to argue. If a law enforcement officer tells you to do something, do it. Unless it's illegal. It's a pretty simple concept. Pretty sure 'Sir....step out of the van. NOW' Is a pretty clear and reasonable request/order.
Do us all a favor and don't comply with the next SoCal cop that tells you to step out of your car with your hands where they can see them
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:31 pm
by Dinsdale
Loganfan wrote:If a law enforcement officer tells you to do something, do it.
Foley ignored the orders and drove home because Mansker didn't identify himself as a police officer
Logon still ain't the brightest bulb on the tree.
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:33 pm
by Dinsdale
Diogenes wrote:
For the record,in the last 25 years San Diego county has the highest number of police shootings per capita of any major metropolitan area in the US.
SigOnSanDiego wrote:In the 12 years from 1990 through 2001, San Diego police shot 151 people. They killed 81 - more per capita than officers in 14 of the state's 20 largest police agencies, more than those in Los Angeles, San Francisco and Sacramento, according to a San Diego Union-Tribune analysis.
6th in the state of california, but 1st in the country.
Did Logonfan help you with that math?
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:36 pm
by Mikey
Always obey a police officer's orders.
Sin,
Logon
Cara Knott
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:38 pm
by Loganfan
Dinsdale wrote:Loganfan wrote:If a law enforcement officer tells you to do something, do it.
Foley ignored the orders and drove home because Mansker didn't identify himself as a police officer
Logon still ain't the brightest bulb on the tree.
The courts found that Foley had absolutely NO reason to believe Mansker was a cop, that's a completely different scenario. We're talking uniformed officers here, not some renegade cop that can't follow his own department's rules for drunk drivers and costs his city $5.5 million in damages
You're not the brightest bulb on the Logon branch of the tree
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:39 pm
by Loganfan
Dinsdale wrote:Diogenes wrote:
For the record,in the last 25 years San Diego county has the highest number of police shootings per capita of any major metropolitan area in the US.
SigOnSanDiego wrote:In the 12 years from 1990 through 2001, San Diego police shot 151 people. They killed 81 - more per capita than officers in 14 of the state's 20 largest police agencies, more than those in Los Angeles, San Francisco and Sacramento, according to a San Diego Union-Tribune analysis.
6th in the state of california, but 1st in the country.
Did Logonfan help you with that math?
Not to back Dio, but 1990-2001 ain't exactly the same as the last 25 years.......
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:40 pm
by Dinsdale
Diogenes wrote:
For the record,in the last 25 years San Diego county has the highest number of police shootings per capita of any major metropolitan area in the US.
I think the name you were looking for was Washington, DC.
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:13 pm
by Diogenes
Dinsdale wrote:Diogenes wrote:
For the record,in the last 25 years San Diego county has the highest number of police shootings per capita of any major metropolitan area in the US.
SigOnSanDiego wrote:In the 12 years from 1990 through 2001, San Diego police shot 151 people. They killed 81 - more per capita than officers in 14 of the state's 20 largest police agencies, more than those in Los Angeles, San Francisco and Sacramento, according to a San Diego Union-Tribune analysis.
6th in the state of california, but 1st in the country.
Did Logonfan help you with that math?
25-12=?
Even Donovan Jacobs being smarter than Dimsdale.
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:22 pm
by Dinsdale
Uhm... the number they cited was "Top 20."
Not sure where you got 25.
20, minus San Diego, makes 19.
14 behind SD in the "standings."
19-14=5.
If 5 of 19 are ahead...
Yup, that works out to SD being 6th... even with the New Math.
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:32 pm
by Diogenes
Do you follow me around just to see how stupid you can look?
And then google shit you don't even comprehend?
Awesome. I'm used to being in losers' domes, but this is just...
Ponderous?
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:33 pm
by Loganfan
mvscal wrote:There two separate data sets spanning different periods of time.
in the last 25 years San Diego county has the highest number of police shootings per capita of any major metropolitan area in the US.
In the 12 years from 1990 through 2001
WHOA!!!!! :o :o :o
Sin,
5 or 6 posts ago
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:48 pm
by Mikey
Loganfan wrote: We're talking uniformed officers here, not some renegade cop that can't follow his own department's rules for drunk drivers and costs his city $5.5 million in damages
Craig Peyer was in uniform.
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:51 pm
by Loganfan
Mikey wrote:Loganfan wrote: We're talking uniformed officers here, not some renegade cop that can't follow his own department's rules for drunk drivers and costs his city $5.5 million in damages
Craig Peyer was in uniform.
Ya.......so one CHP goes bad and rapes and eats some chick's liver and kidneys and it makes it OK for everybody else to ignore officers orders?
The stupid fucks we've been talking about probably hadn't even heard about that case.
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:54 pm
by Mikey
Loganfan wrote:Mikey wrote:Loganfan wrote: We're talking uniformed officers here, not some renegade cop that can't follow his own department's rules for drunk drivers and costs his city $5.5 million in damages
Craig Peyer was in uniform.
Ya.......so one CHP goes bad and rapes and eats some chick's liver and kidneys and it makes it OK for everybody else to ignore officers orders?
The stupid fucks we've been talking about probably hadn't even heard about that case.
True. But that case did change the rules regarding under what circumstances you need to comply with an officer's order to pull over and get out of your vehicle.
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:59 pm
by Loganfan
Mikey wrote:
True. But that case did change the rules regarding under what circumstances you need to comply with an officer's order to pull over and get out of your vehicle.
Yes....which is why Coronado just had to pay out Steve Foley, but the majority of shootings happen because idiots reach into their pockets (for whatever....cellphone, lighter...crackpipe, whatever...doesn't matter) with a stressed cop screaming at them to put their hands in the air, or they run their vehicle in the direction of the cop, or pull a knife during a gunfight in which case the liberals try to insist that the cop didn't need to use lethal force. That's right....let the bad guy stab you first.....THEN you can shoot him
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:04 pm
by Diogenes
Peyer tried to fly under the radar.
Not the same as planting a toy gun on a corpse and relying on the system to brush it off.
BTW, did the 25 years/Donovan Jacobs/Sagon Penn references elude the SD locals?
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:12 pm
by Loganfan
Diogenes wrote:Peyer tried to fly under the radar.
Not the same as planting a toy gun on a corpse and relying on the system to brush it off.
BTW, did the 25 years/Donovan Jacobs/Sagon Penn references elude the SD locals?
Nope.
Penn was a POS and good fucking riddance to him finally having the decency to off himself a few years back.....and let's not forget, he shot Jacobs AND the unarmed lady who was in the car as a ride along.
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:18 pm
by Diogenes
Loganfan wrote:Diogenes wrote:Peyer tried to fly under the radar.
Not the same as planting a toy gun on a corpse and relying on the system to brush it off.
BTW, did the 25 years/Donovan Jacobs/Sagon Penn references elude the SD locals?
Nope.
Penn was a POS and good fucking riddance to him finally having the decency to off himself a few years back.....and let's not forget, he shot Jacobs AND the unarmed lady who was in the car as a ride along.
Actually it was Bobby Riggs who got shot and killed.
But it was right after his getting over that SD adopted the shoot first, ignore later policy.
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:37 pm
by Loganfan
Ahhh.....you're right.
Apologies to any Riggs family members that may have read my post.
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:52 pm
by Mikey
Diogenes wrote:Peyer tried to fly under the radar.
Not the same as planting a toy gun on a corpse and relying on the system to brush it off.
BTW, did the ... Sagon Penn references elude the SD locals?
Was he in uniform too?
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:09 pm
by Diogenes
As opposed to the Coronodo stalker?
Either way, and allowing for differences between Dimsdalian and real world mathmatics, zero is stil zero.
There hasn't been an improper police shooting in SD county in the last 25 years.
Doesn't that make you feel all safe and shit?
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:26 pm
by Mikey
Sure. Crime is non-existent in my part of town.
No home-invasions, no robberies, no car thefts, no drug busts, no assaults, no stabbings.
Recently.
On my street.
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:31 pm
by Loganfan
Diogenes wrote:
There hasn't been an improper police shooting in SD county in the last 25 years.
You mean OTHER than the Coronado stalker?
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:38 pm
by Sirfindafold
mvscal wrote:Loganfan wrote:'Sir....step out of the van. NOW' Is a pretty clear and reasonable request/order.
And getting your head blown off is a reasonable response to non-compliance in your opinion?
You're a fucking moron.
apparently the deceased in this case is not colored.
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:40 pm
by Loganfan
Mikey wrote:Sure. Crime is non-existent in my part of town.
No home-invasions, no robberies, no car thefts, no drug busts, no assaults, no stabbings.
Recently.
On my street.
You live with a bunch of avocados.
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:43 pm
by Mikey
Bad-ass, gang affiliated avocados.
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:58 pm
by Loganfan
Mikey wrote:Bad-ass, gang affiliated avocados.
WAR: the Piru 'Cados
Some call me the gangster of Guac......
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:22 pm
by Diogenes
Loganfan wrote:Diogenes wrote:
There hasn't been an improper police shooting in SD county in the last 25 years.
You mean OTHER than the Coronado stalker?
No, including said POS.
Back in uniform and prowling.
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:46 pm
by Loganfan
Diogenes wrote:Loganfan wrote:Diogenes wrote:
There hasn't been an improper police shooting in SD county in the last 25 years.
You mean OTHER than the Coronado stalker?
No, including said POS.
Back in uniform and prowling.
I'd call that one improper.....
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:55 pm
by Diogenes
Loganfan wrote:You may embed only 3 quotes within each other.
I'd call that one improper.....
Unfortunatly Dumanis is cool with it.
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:08 pm
by atomicdad
No doubt, Dumbasses will find the White/Silva shooting to be justified as well.
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:18 pm
by PSUFAN
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Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:48 pm
by Mikey
Loganfan wrote:Mikey wrote:Bad-ass, gang affiliated avocados.
WAR: the Piru 'Cados
Some call me the gangster of Guac......
'round here they've apparently been importing hard-core unemployable Chilean avocados to beef up their numbers. I've seen them too. Tough stringy little motherfuckers that you wouldn't want to meet on a dark streetcorner. They seem to hang out a lot around those mobile taco stands.
The local growers have been pushing the INS to get these aliens deported ASAP so the locals don't get used to having them around.
Re: America's finest gangbangers
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:53 pm
by Diogenes
PSUFAN wrote:You may embed only 3 quotes within each other.
RACK phpBB!!
Double entendres rule.
Even when nobody else gets them.