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Is the home of the wishbone and triple option...

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:57 pm
by Left Seater
now the best passing conference?

A number of us had this discussion today at a HS practice. I would argue that if they are not the top passing conference then they are in the top two. Granted Taco Tech is on both sides of this with their passing, but then their non-conf sucks.

Flame away.

Re: Is the home of the wishbone and triple option...

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:36 am
by Danimal
The depth at qb is just sick in the 12 this year.

Now it remains to be seen if we can keep those 5-spots in the top15. My guess is that considering KU's nightmare sched I'd say no. I think we'll keep four in the top15 and a good five in the top25.

Re: Is the home of the wishbone and triple option...

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:19 pm
by PSUFAN
Speaking of the wishbone, PSU's been showing it a bit in practice.

This should be an interesting year for PSU. Just about everyone has given up on Jay Paterno's ability to develop a passing game...including Jay.

PSU will probably feature the run heavily this year, which is not the worst decision in the world, given the OL improvement that has taken place and the personnel on hand.

It will indeed be odd if the 12 is pass-happy, and the 11 is rolling wishbone tape, looking to echo those formations.

Re: Is the home of the wishbone and triple option...

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:56 pm
by King Crimson
Danimal wrote:The depth at qb is just sick in the 12 this year.

Now it remains to be seen if we can keep those 5-spots in the top15. My guess is that considering KU's nightmare sched I'd say no. I think we'll keep four in the top15 and a good five in the top25.
Bradford, Daniel, McCoy, Reesing, and Harrell are all on the Davey O'Brian watch list.

and that leaves out talented (but mecurial) players like Zac Robinson at O-State, Freeman at KSU. Steven McGee has beaten Texas twice. With a potential Corn Fed Stud in Ganz and Hawkins is a decent player who from all practice reports has bulked up and never misses a read in practice.

Re: Is the home of the wishbone and triple option...

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:47 pm
by buckeye_in_sc
don't let SEC Fan hear that...




(i agree that the 12 has the best QB talent)...

Re: Is the home of the wishbone and triple option...

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:13 pm
by King Crimson
i'd also suggest that at this point the passing O's are ahead of the D's in the Big XII. that tends to happen. and the "wishbone and triple option" conferences have been a little slow to come around on the D side.

until, all of a sudden, the Stoops hire of Leach, Leach to Tech, OU NC of 2000, Pinkel, Mangino as part of the OU 2000/Leach in 99 staff, even Guy Morriss (and his second coming, Art Briles)...and secondary influx of Boise State and Pac 10 (Hawkins staff at CU, though it remains to me whether they walk the walk or just talk)....i don't think was fully grasped in conference how much things changed in the early mid 2000's. Even Larry Fedora at O-State, who i loved to watch his O. Dennis Francione is always going to be a mystery to me, but i don't wonder if he tried to jump to next stage with the power running game? too early. other things too.

but, anyway, that tendency to a spread type O has been a sea-change in Texas and Oklahoma HS football in the last decade maybe. and that's where it starts, to some degree. look at how teams practice. 7 on 7 drills. when i grew up playing 5A football at one Oklahoma's bigger high schools (Norman HS) we never ran 7 on 7 drills. we learned the Houston veer playbook in 6th grade and ran it all the way through, the dive play, and some play action and option. and we hit alot. i played flanker (in a mediocre but passable way), we ran routes and stuff...but not what they do today. making reads....

edit: and don't forget there was a kind of "zone-read" phase with Snyder's Beasley, Roberson teams and obviously VY.