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Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:38 pm
by LTS TRN 2
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH...

Obviously the robotic Rove Monkeys here will attempt to dismiss this with their typical slurs, smears, etc., but here it is...no real surprise

Palin asked Wasilla librarian about censoring books
By Rindi White / Anchorage Daily News

Thursday, September 4, 2008 - Updated 1d 24h ago


WASILLA -- Back in 1996, when she first became mayor, Sarah Palin asked the city librarian if she would be all right with censoring library books should she be asked to do so.

According to news coverage at the time, the librarian said she would definitely not be all right with it. A few months later, the librarian, Mary Ellen Emmons, got a letter from Palin telling her she was going to be fired. The censorship issue was not mentioned as a reason for the firing. The letter just said the new mayor felt Emmons didn’t fully support her and had to go.

Emmons had been city librarian for seven years and was well liked. After a wave of public support for her, Palin relented and let Emmons keep her job.


In December 1996, Emmons told her hometown newspaper, the Frontiersman, that Palin three times asked her -- starting before she was sworn in -- about possibly removing objectionable books from the library if the need arose.

Emmons told the Frontiersman she flatly refused to consider any kind of censorship. Emmons, now Mary Ellen Baker, is on vacation from her current job in Fairbanks and did not return e-mail or telephone messages left for her Wednesday.

When the matter came up for the second time in October 1996, during a City Council meeting, Anne Kilkenny, a Wasilla housewife who often attends council meetings, was there.

Like many Alaskans, Kilkenny calls the governor by her first name.

"Sarah said to Mary Ellen, ’What would your response be if I asked you to remove some books from the collection?" Kilkenny said.

"I was shocked. Mary Ellen sat up straight and said something along the line of, ’The books in the Wasilla Library collection were selected on the basis of national selection criteria for libraries of this size, and I would absolutely resist all efforts to ban books.’"

Palin didn’t mention specific books at that meeting, Kilkenny said.

Palin herself, questioned at the time, called her inquiries rhetorical and simply part of a policy discussion with a department head "about understanding and following administration agendas," according to the Frontiersman article.

Were any books censored banned? June Pinell-Stephens, chairwoman of the Alaska Library Association’s Intellectual Freedom Committee since 1984, checked her files Wednesday and came up empty-handed.

Pinell-Stephens also had no record of any phone conversations with Emmons about the issue back then. Emmons was president of the Alaska Library Association at the time. Books may not have been pulled from library shelves, but there were other repercussions for Emmons.

Four days before the exchange at the City Council, Emmons got a letter from Palin asking for her resignation. Similar letters went to police chief Irl Stambaugh, public works director Jack Felton and finance director Duane Dvorak. John Cooper, a fifth director, resigned after Palin eliminated his job overseeing the city museum.

Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:42 pm
by Tom In VA
Thanks for this nugget of information LTS, duly noted and will most definitely be taken under thoughtful consideration as we take our decision for the presidential election in November.

You are a gentlemen and a scholar and we're grateful to you for opening our eyes to Palin's actions as mayor. Censorship is a major issue. You seem concerned about it too. But it's an issue larger than a small town mayor and government far and wide, on both sides of the aisle have far too much to say about what we read, what we say, and where our money goes.

For your own sanity, I recommend WAKEY WAKEY, take some action donate your next paycheck to the American Library Association http://www.ala.org/.

We take this issue very seriously as you do, and I highly encourage you to put your money where your mouth is.

Being "Pro-Choice" in this matter is not conducive to a free society. Cities, Counties, and States having the right to choose which books are or are not available in their local libraries is a crime against humanity. The Fed, should step in and force them to provide ALL books. By force, if necessary.

For your review, a list of books banned in libraries across the country based on the decisions made by state, and local governments - purportedly under direction of the communities they're supposed to serve.

http://title.forbiddenlibrary.com/

v/r
A Concerned, Awake, Citizen.

Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:11 pm
by Shoalzie
I'm not taking a dig particularly at Palin...this is just my general view on this matter.

Banning books almost seems silly now when you consider how unfiltered the content is on the internet and people can choose where they get information and what they want to look at. A public library is pretty much as open to everyone as the internet. It's not like libraries make money off these "contraversial" books since it's there pretty much doesn't cost anything to get a library card to get a library card. Allow the individual to be able to choose whether or not they want to read a book instead of just taking the choice away from them all together just because that book makes a group of people feel uncomfortable. Whether or not conservatives think we can make a decision they can feel comfortable with, the fact that they'd want to remove the idea of choice from this matter is wrong on so many levels. That being said, I think religious text like the Bible or the Koran should be available for everyone to read in a library because it all goes back to the idea of choice. The books can be there but we ultimately should be able to choose what information we want to consume.

Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:46 pm
by Diogenes
This is horrible.

I mean, without access to The anarchist's cooknook and the latest NAMBLA newsletter, what the hell are public libraries for?

Don't worry, Nicky, at least the Frisco public library will fix you up.

Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:17 pm
by smackaholic
I wonder if she'll have a book burning at the library of congress?

Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:57 pm
by Shoalzie
Diogenes wrote:This is horrible.

I mean, without access to The anarchist's cooknook and the latest NAMBLA newsletter, what the hell are public libraries for?

Don't worry, Nicky, at least the Frisco public library will fix you up.


That would be as bad as letting the Klan have rallies in public...

Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:08 am
by poptart
The books in the Wasilla Library collection were selected on the basis of national selection criteria for libraries of this size.


I'm curious to know what this means ... exactly.

Any librarians here?

Oh ... Junction. lol

RUN!


Seriously, does anyone know who is part of the 'national selection' board?
IS there a board?
What IS the criteria for the selection of books?
Who makes the decision?
Where do they get their authority?

Curious.

Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:24 am
by smackaholic
So, we've gone from faking having her daughter's inbred retard kid to almost firing a librarian.

Can't you fukkers just make up something good? Geezus.

Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:35 am
by Shoalzie
I could care less if that story is true or not. I do think that's a good topic to debate anyways. Her views on what books should be in a library wasn't going to sway my vote...I wasn't going to vote conservative regardless.

Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:07 am
by Diogenes
So after saying " Censor Or Be FIRED!", no books were censored and nobody was fired?

Kind of like when as governor she allegedly fires an employee for not getting rid of a criminal trooper (and offers said employee another job) and the criminal still has his badge?

Either she's really bad at this abuse of power thing or the leftwing loons gunning for her are seriously lame.

Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:51 am
by Yer a Fuckin Jerkoff
Rules

Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:35 am
by Diogenes
“If I’d had a crystal ball a few years ago, I might have asked a few more questions when Sarah decided to join the PTA. It wouldn’t have mattered, though; when my wife starts talking about reform, corruption and making government work for the people, it’s just best to get out of the way.”

Todd Palin
Speaking about his wife Sarah Palin
September 2, 2008

Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:23 am
by Terry in Crapchester
Speaking of Todd . . .

Given that Doug Flutie is now retired from pro football, maybe he ought to inherit the nickname, "The Mullet."

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Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:09 am
by Diogenes

Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:14 am
by stuckinia
Excellent work TiC. Keep up the good work.

Do you even know what a mullet is? Or are you just going by what your wife told you is was supposed to be? Does she shave your head up to the base of your pointy skull?

Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:17 am
by Smackie Chan
e wrote:
Terry in Crapchester wrote:Speaking of Todd . . .

Given that Doug Flutie is now retired from pro football, maybe he ought to inherit the nickname, "The Mullet."

Image
you see a mullet? i see a guy with a little too much goop in his hair but no mullet.
Good thing the SAT and LSAT don't have questions about hair styles.

Post more, e.

Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:54 am
by Diogenes
e wrote:
Terry in Crapchester wrote:Speaking of Todd . . .

Given that Doug Flutie is now retired from pro football, maybe he ought to inherit the nickname, "The Mullet."

Image
you see a mullet? i see a guy with a little too much goop in his hair but no mullet.
I see a guy whose wife is causing leftwing idiots to melt into a puddle of moist feces.

Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:55 am
by LTS TRN 2
Pretty good pantie waddage by the Rove Monkeys...extra points for T-in Va for particularly good derailment panic.

The librarian WAS fired, but then rehired due to public outcry. Brood Mare also fired the police chief--and forbid ANY public employees to speak to the press without permission. ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO COME OUT!!!!

Resume your twisted wadding.

Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:15 am
by War Wagon
I hear she really had it out for Harry Potter, which gives me yet another reason to like her.

Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:49 am
by Diogenes
Mace wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote:The librarian WAS fired, but then rehired due to public outcry. Brood Mare also fired the police chief--and forbid ANY public employees to speak to the press without permission. ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO COME OUT!!!!
I'm shocked of the earth shattering news that a newly elected government executive would fire incumbent department heads appointed by a predecessor....totally shocked....really. :roll:

Mace
Not only appointed by, but supported said loser in the election.

BTW, the librarian in question was never fired. And no books were banned.




Aside from that this is all shocking and appalling and shit.

Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:37 am
by LTS TRN 2
First, Brood Mare DID fire the librarian, but was forced to rescind. Dio/babs/cuda is simply lying as usual.

And, she demanded that no public employee speak to the press without permission.

The point, she's a thoroughly intolerant religious fanatic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQq4b5IQ ... re=related

The very idea of having a fascistic religious fanatic in the executive branch is a nightmare--which is pretty much what this nation and the world has endured under the current (unelected) cabal. It's time for change--not a worse Chimp!

Seriously, what is wrong with you pathetic Rove Monkeys? :meds:

Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:10 am
by Diogenes
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Image
Dammit, Nicky.I didn't mean to drive you back over the edge.


You know what you need...



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Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:38 am
by Diogenes

Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:03 am
by Diogenes

Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:58 am
by Diogenes
Hating Sarah Palin

In early 2005, we wrote a short piece for The Wall Street Journal in which we argued that Hillary Clinton had a very strong advantage in a prospective 2008 presidential campaign: Republicans loathed her. This, we suggested, would make her appealing to the Democratic Party's Angry Left base; and hatred would blind Republicans, causing them to make mistakes in a general election campaign.

It's fair to say that article was subsequently overtaken by events. In fact, until 10 days ago, it looked as if there wouldn't be much hatred at all in this year's campaign. Some people find John McCain irritating; others find Barack Obama scary or contemptible. But neither man has aroused much true hatred.

McCain's vice presidential nominee, however, is arousing a lot of it. Columnist Nick Cohen of London's left-wing Observer has noticed--and he makes essentially the same argument we did about Mrs. Clinton 3½ years ago:

My colleagues in the American liberal press had little to fear at the start of the week. . . . But instead of protecting their precious advantage, they succumbed to a spasm of hatred and threw the vase, the crockery, the cutlery and the kitchen sink at an obscure politician from Alaska.

For once, the postmodern theories so many of them were taught at university are a help to the rest of us. As a Christian, conservative anti-abortionist who proved her support for the Iraq War by sending her son to fight in it, Sarah Palin was "the other"--the threatening alien presence they defined themselves against. . . .

Hatred is the most powerful emotion in politics. . . . Hate can sell better than hope. When a hate campaign goes wrong, however, disaster follows.


One liberal Democrat who sees things similarly is Willie Brown, the former California Assembly speaker and San Francisco mayor. "The Democrats are in trouble," Brown writes in a column for the San Francisco Chronicle. "Sarah Palin has totally changed the dynamics of this campaign. . . . She didn't have to prove she was 'of the people.' She really is the people."

It was in Willie Brown's San Francisco that Obama made his infamous April remark about small-town voters: "It's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion . . ." Obama's contempt is unattractive enough. His supporters' hatred for a bitter clinger with the effrontery to think she is qualified for federal office is downright ugly. We don't think Obama is a hater, but his campaign may suffer because of his supporters' emotions, which are beyond his control.

Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:19 pm
by Dinsdale
Shoalzie wrote:Whether or not conservatives think we can make a decision they can feel comfortable with, the fact that they'd want to remove the idea of choice from this matter is wrong on so many levels.

Uhm... abridging Freedom of Speech would be a liberal concept, not "conservative."

Thanks for your cooperation in this matter.

Re: Mayor Palin to Librarian: Censor Or Be FIRED!"

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:02 pm
by Diogenes
Dinsdale wrote:
Shoalzie wrote:Whether or not conservatives think we can make a decision they can feel comfortable with, the fact that they'd want to remove the idea of choice from this matter is wrong on so many levels.

Uhm... abridging Freedom of Speech would be a liberal concept, not "conservative."
Try reactionary.