Opinions on Palin?

[battery chucka' one]

I like her a lot as a candidate, but would like to see her get more access to the press. Don't understand why the McCain camp is keeping her away from the press as they are. I think she can handle herself quite well. Your thoughts?

[Wolfman]

It's obvious the Stalinists are very afraid of her and what she stands for; but even the Republicans must remember that she is not running for POTUS.

[poptart]

Chucka', I think the McCain camp is shielding her because in their view, the "Why are you protecting her?" evil is the lesser evil than the evil which would come if she were to say something extremely bonheaded ... which they fear she might.

I think they'll keep her under wraps until her debate with blowhard Biden.
The hope is that in that venue, she will goad HIM into producing a m0ronic/hist0ric soundbite, which will only serve to continue to divert attention away from her own weaknesses and onto the fact that Joe Biden is a clown.

At that point she can do more interviews and glory in the fact that she is a brighter bulb than the @sshead at the bottom of the other ticket.

That's the strategum, imo.

[Goober McTuber]

Opinions on Palin?

I’d say he was the least funny of the group.

[Wolfman]

^^^^^^^^^^

rack that re-set !

[rozy]

Chucka', I think the McCain camp is shielding her because in their view, the "Why are you protecting her?" evil is the lesser evil than the evil which would come if she were to say something extremely bonheaded ... which they fear she might.

I think they'll keep her under wraps until her debate with blowhard Biden.
The hope is that in that venue, she will goad HIM into producing a m0ronic/hist0ric soundbite, which will only serve to continue to divert attention away from her own weaknesses and onto the fact that Joe Biden is a clown.

At that point she can do more interviews and glory in the fact that she is a brighter bulb than the @sshead at the bottom of the other ticket.

That's the strategum, imo.

Or, they are thumbing their noses at the MSM which has handled her rather poorly. They are running for public office, not pandering to the press. But, assuming your accuracy, the strategy is kicking ass thanks to Biden.
Her speech writer is quite good, btw:

http://www.nysun.com/opinion/palin-on-a ... ped/86311/

Governor Palin, the Republican nominee for vice president, was scheduled to speak today at a rally in Dag Hammarskjold Plaza to protest the appearance here of President Ahmadinejad of Iran. Her appearance was canceled by rally organizers who sought a nonpolitical event. Following are the remarks Mrs. Palin would have given:



***

I am honored to be with you and with leaders from across this great country — leaders from different faiths and political parties united in a single voice of outrage.

Tomorrow, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will come to New York — to the heart of what he calls the Great Satan — and speak freely in this, a country whose demise he has called for.

Ahmadinejad may choose his words carefully, but underneath all of the rhetoric is an agenda that threatens all who seek a safer and freer world. We gather here today to highlight the Iranian dictator's intentions and to call for action to thwart him.

He must be stopped.

The world must awake to the threat this man poses to all of us. Ahmadinejad denies that the Holocaust ever took place. He dreams of being an agent in a "Final Solution" — the elimination of the Jewish people. He has called Israel a "stinking corpse" that is "on its way to annihilation." Such talk cannot be dismissed as the ravings of a madman — not when Iran just this summer tested long-range Shahab-3 missiles capable of striking Tel Aviv, not when the Iranian nuclear program is nearing completion, and not when Iran sponsors terrorists that threaten and kill innocent people around the world.

The Iranian government wants nuclear weapons. The International Atomic Energy Agency reports that Iran is running at least 3,800 centrifuges and that its uranium enrichment capacity is rapidly improving. According to news reports, U.S. intelligence agencies believe the Iranians may have enough nuclear material to produce a bomb within a year.

The world has condemned these activities. The United Nations Security Council has demanded that Iran suspend its illegal nuclear enrichment activities. It has levied three rounds of sanctions. How has Ahmadinejad responded? With the declaration that the "Iranian nation would not retreat one iota" from its nuclear program.

So, what should we do about this growing threat? First, we must succeed in Iraq. If we fail there, it will jeopardize the democracy the Iraqis have worked so hard to build, and empower the extremists in neighboring Iran. Iran has armed and trained terrorists who have killed our soldiers in Iraq, and it is Iran that would benefit from an American defeat in Iraq.

If we retreat without leaving a stable Iraq, Iran's nuclear ambitions will be bolstered. If Iran acquires nuclear weapons — they could share them tomorrow with the terrorists they finance, arm, and train today. Iranian nuclear weapons would set off a dangerous regional nuclear arms race that would make all of us less safe.

But Iran is not only a regional threat; it threatens the entire world. It is the no. 1 state sponsor of terrorism. It sponsors the world's most vicious terrorist groups, Hamas and Hezbollah. Together, Iran and its terrorists are responsible for the deaths of Americans in Lebanon in the 1980s, in Saudi Arabia in the 1990s, and in Iraq today. They have murdered Iraqis, Lebanese, Palestinians, and other Muslims who have resisted Iran's desire to dominate the region. They have persecuted countless people simply because they are Jewish.

Iran is responsible for attacks not only on Israelis, but on Jews living as far away as Argentina. Anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial are part of Iran's official ideology and murder is part of its official policy. Not even Iranian citizens are safe from their government's threat to those who want to live, work, and worship in peace. Politically-motivated abductions, torture, death by stoning, flogging, and amputations are just some of its state-sanctioned punishments.

It is said that the measure of a country is the treatment of its most vulnerable citizens. By that standard, the Iranian government is both oppressive and barbaric. Under Ahmadinejad's rule, Iranian women are some of the most vulnerable citizens.

If an Iranian woman shows too much hair in public, she risks being beaten or killed.

If she walks down a public street in clothing that violates the state dress code, she could be arrested.

But in the face of this harsh regime, the Iranian women have shown courage. Despite threats to their lives and their families, Iranian women have sought better treatment through the "One Million Signatures Campaign Demanding Changes to Discriminatory Laws." The authorities have reacted with predictable barbarism. Last year, women's rights activist Delaram Ali was sentenced to 20 lashes and 10 months in prison for committing the crime of "propaganda against the system." After international protests, the judiciary reduced her sentence to "only" 10 lashes and 36 months in prison and then temporarily suspended her sentence. She still faces the threat of imprisonment.

Earlier this year, Senator Clinton said that "Iran is seeking nuclear weapons, and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps is in the forefront of that" effort. Senator Clinton argued that part of our response must include stronger sanctions, including the designation of the IRGC as a terrorist organization. John McCain and I could not agree more.

Senator Clinton understands the nature of this threat and what we must do to confront it. This is an issue that should unite all Americans. Iran should not be allowed to acquire nuclear weapons. Period. And in a single voice, we must be loud enough for the whole world to hear: Stop Iran!

Only by working together, across national, religious, and political differences, can we alter this regime's dangerous behavior. Iran has many vulnerabilities, including a regime weakened by sanctions and a population eager to embrace opportunities with the West. We must increase economic pressure to change Iran's behavior.

Tomorrow, Ahmadinejad will come to New York. On our soil, he will exercise the right of freedom of speech — a right he denies his own people. He will share his hateful agenda with the world. Our task is to focus the world on what can be done to stop him.

We must rally the world to press for truly tough sanctions at the U.N. or with our allies if Iran's allies continue to block action in the U.N. We must start with restrictions on Iran's refined petroleum imports.

We must reduce our dependency on foreign oil to weaken Iran's economic influence.

We must target the regime's assets abroad; bank accounts, investments, and trading partners.

President Ahmadinejad should be held accountable for inciting genocide, a crime under international law.

We must sanction Iran's Central Bank and the Revolutionary Guard Corps — which no one should doubt is a terrorist organization.

Together, we can stop Iran's nuclear program.

Senator McCain has made a solemn commitment that I strongly endorse: Never again will we risk another Holocaust. And this is not a wish, a request, or a plea to Israel's enemies. This is a promise that the United States and Israel will honor, against any enemy who cares to test us. It is John McCain's promise and it is my promise.

Thank you.

I know, I know, she is just very good at regurgitating what the Handlers have already filled her lips with...

She even drops some Hillary praise in there. Sheer brilliance.

[Tom In VA]

Her voice kind of irritates me.

Reminds me of a cheerleader that ran for School President when I was in high school who claimed she was an athletic supporter.

Rumour had it, she put her mouth where her money was so to speak to the entire football team. I was on the team, first string. I wasn't there that day or maybe she was just scared of linebackers, either way I was DENIED.

Palin brings up that bad memory.

[Dinsdale]

I think the kid is hers.

Actually, it's pretty much fact that it's hers.

Abject failure as a mother, lies compulsively to hide that fact, and wants to be your VP.


Have fun with that.

[Screw_Michigan]

Abject failure as a mother, lies compulsively to hide that fact, and wants to be your VP.

Have fun with that.

RACK. As they say, Palin's a STONE-COLD DUMBFUCK and the GOP is trying to hide that fact by any means necessary, although it's not hard to figure out.

Spin away, tards.

[Goober McTuber]

Abject failure as a mother,

I laughed. You are a pathetically hypocritical douchebag.

So you're saying that Dinsdale is also a shitty mother?

[MuchoBulls]

Abject failure as a mother

Out of curiousity, where has she failed as a mother?

[rozy]

Abject failure as a mother, lies compulsively to hide that fact, and wants to be your VP.

Have fun with that.

RACK. As they say, Palin's a STONE-COLD DUMBFUCK and the GOP is trying to hide that fact by any means necessary, although it's not hard to figure out.

Spin away, tards.

Hey, Dins, you like this endorsement?

It's okay, though. BCO threw a rack my way one time. I still smart in places sore from that 45 minute ensuing shower...

[Dinsdale]

Abject failure as a mother

Out of curiousity, where has she failed as a mother?

She has a minor child expecting her SECOND child out of wedlock.


Now, let's take a multiple choice quiz --

If your minor child is expecting her second bastard before she's out of high school, you are:

A) A fine fucking parent, who has done a great job in parenting,

or

B) A complete loser, who couldn't even keep your own house in order, much less the White House.


Think hard on this one.


Roz -- Screwey ain't the pointiest tack in the bulletin board...

But he did get rid of Dio.


For this alone, he's almost OK in my book.

[rozy]

Kid is 5 months old
Daughter is 6 months pregnant

Interesting math and biology they teach up there in the Up and Shroomed

Damn, bro, you can troll much better than this...

[Dinsdale]

On April 18th, 2008, Sarah Pailin made an appearance in Texas.

So, one of two things must be true --

A) She's a horrible parent for taking a 12 hour plane ride after her water broke (which is actually the story she's selling to the gullible people... no, really), which no doctor in the country would recommend,


or


B) She's a horrible parent for allowing her minor daughter to get knocked up for the second time



Simple logic dictates one of these two statements is true.

Does it really matter which one?

But the absolute lies she's rolled out, instead of... I dunno... maybe BEING HONEST, aren't even fucking believable, except to serious rubes.

[rozy]

Troll on, little brother...

[Dinsdale]

:lol:

Kid is 5 months old
Daughter is 6 months pregnant

Gee, wonder if:

A) There's suddenly going to be a miscarriage

B) The baby is going to be born late... by a few weeks

C) Some other bullshit story



But if Sarah Palin did in fact give birth to the child born in Alaska in April (on the same day she made an appearance in Texas... can't.stop.laughing), then what kind of parent would take a 168-hours-per-week-job with a 5-month old baby at home? And what kind of POS mother would fly across the country expecting a baby in the coming days?


I'm really wondering... why do you people try and spin in favor of OBVIOUS POS liars/scumbags?

What is with that?

Regardless which side of this story you believe, to be able to draw any other conclusion than "shutty parent" is asinine.

Is it hers? Then stay home with your newborn, you POS.

Not hers? Then she's a proven liar, and a shitty parent.


These are your only two choices, regardless what spin you try and put on it.

[MuchoBulls]

She has a minor child expecting her SECOND child out of wedlock.

You are entitled to your opinion, but I think that you're really reaching with this arguement.

It's a proven medical fact that a woman of Sarah Palin's age is at a higher risk of conceiving a down syndrome child.

Not sure if you have children or not, but I wouldn't put the blame on Sarah Palin because her daughter is having sex at 17 years old. There is only so much a parent can say and do before the child would rather experience things on their own.

[Dinsdale]

You people really are tards.

It ain't so much the complete lack of family values -- it's the fucking lies she's telling to try and cover up her complete lack of family values.

Either a bad parent, or a liar. Smart money's on both.

And if you can't see the obvious fabrications here, since she's told OBVIOUS bullshit stories (seriously, people... did you hear they took the word "gullible" out of Webster's Dictionary? "Well, I broke water in Texas, so I hopped on a 12 hour flight home"... uhm, HELLO? You people are really buying this... really? I feel for you, and I fear for this country).


So, spin doctoring douches... if the knocked up daughter is no big deal to you, why does she need to lie about it?

[MuchoBulls]

if the knocked up daughter is no big deal to you, why does she need to lie about it?

When did she lie about it?

[Dinsdale]

When did she lie about it?

OK. I have you down for "believes the 'got on a plane for a 12 hour flight AFTER breaking water' story."

There's a sucker born every minute, I guess.


BTW -- I also have you down for Phildo in next year's Masters... but that's not important right now.

[MuchoBulls]

OK. I have you down for "believes the 'got on a plane for a 12 hour flight AFTER breaking water' story."

There's a sucker born every minute, I guess.


BTW -- I also have you down for Phildo in next year's Masters... but that's not important right now.

Just because her water broke doesn't mean that the birth of the child was that imminent. She had 4 children beforehand, so I think she'd know better than all of us what she was going through.

The Masters is about the only tourney I am going to take Phil in from now on. I'll probably go with him for the U.S. Open next year since it's at Bethpage Black.

[Dinsdale]

BTW-to adress the original question...


My opinion of Palin is that's she's yet another huge-government liberal, but attempting to get over on the gullible people by running as a "conservative," which she clearly isn't.

[BSmack]

Just because her water broke doesn't mean that the birth of the child was that imminent. She had 4 children beforehand, so I think she'd know better than all of us what she was going through.

A 12 hour plane flight is a bit above and beyond the call of duty. But, if she hadn't tested positive for Strep B during he prenatal screenings (not sure what the Bible has to say about those) then she wasn't putting the baby in any kind of extreme danger.

There's a lot to nail Palin on. We don't need to resort to this crap.

The Masters is about the only tourney I am going to take Phil in from now on. I'll probably go with him for the U.S. Open next year since it's at Bethpage Black.

Bethpage? That's Tiger country.

There's a few PGA venues where Hefty can compete as well. The only way he's going to win the British is if the wind is down all 4 days.

[MuchoBulls]

Bethpage? That's Tiger country.

There's a few PGA venues where Hefty can compete as well. The only way he's going to win the British is if the wind is down all 4 days.

It is? Tiger won that U.S. Open, but the crowd was definitely in Phil's favor. I would expect it to be no different this go around either.

Phil had the lead at The British going to the 17th hole the year Hamilton won it, but it is the major he'd least likely win.

[Tom In VA]

Just because her water broke doesn't mean that the birth of the child was that imminent. She had 4 children beforehand, so I think she'd know better than all of us what she was going through.

A 12 hour plane flight is a bit above and beyond the call of duty. But, if she hadn't tested positive for Strep B during he prenatal screenings (not sure what the Bible has to say about those)

Nice reach.

[BSmack]

Just because her water broke doesn't mean that the birth of the child was that imminent. She had 4 children beforehand, so I think she'd know better than all of us what she was going through.

A 12 hour plane flight is a bit above and beyond the call of duty. But, if she hadn't tested positive for Strep B during he prenatal screenings (not sure what the Bible has to say about those)

Nice reach.

Almost as good as the Pope claiming that jerking off into a sock is a sin.

[Tom In VA]

Almost as good as the Pope claiming that jerking off into a sock is a sin.

No, not really, it's not even close. There's merit to self discipline and the ability to govern one's lust appropriately. The insinuation you're flailing away at making is ..... Beneath contempt.

[BSmack]

Almost as good as the Pope claiming that jerking off into a sock is a sin.

No, not really, it's not even close. There's merit to self discipline and the ability to govern one's lust appropriately. The insinuation you're flailing away at making is ..... Beneath contempt.

As beneath contempt as running a woman out of town on false charges of witchcraft?

Please do elaborate as to what insinuation you think I am making. I do so tire of your beating around the bush.

[Tom In VA]

I do so tire of your beating around the bush.

Okay Mr. Pot.

[poptart]

My opinion of Palin is that's she's yet another huge-government liberal, but attempting to get over on the gullible people by running as a "conservative," which she clearly isn't.

Money.

[Cuda]

Almost as good as the Pope claiming that jerking off into a sock is a sin.

Your dad jacked off onto your mom's socks and let the flies do the dirty work.

[War Wagon]

You're attempting to reason with the mentally ill. Just abuse and ridicule them.

Dins commenting on parental responsibilities... there's not a big enough :rolleyes to cover that. Talk about the fox guarding the henhouse, and here comes Dins, as if on cue, with a mouth full of bloody feathers.

You can't make this shit up. It's almost too perfect for an HBO sitcom. Thanks, Dins. I needed a theater of the absurd before going to bed tonight.

[Goober McTuber]

I needed a theater of the absurd before going to bed tonight.

Then once you get to bed, wifey gets to enjoy the theater of the absurd, right?

[Dinsdale]

Dins commenting on parental responsibilities... there's not a big enough :rolleyes to cover that.

I'm not a surgeon, either... but if a guy bleeds to death during an appendectomy, I'm still qualified to say "the surgeon fucked up."

I'm not an architect, but if someone designs a building that topple during a 4.5 earthquake 17 years after construction, I'm more than qualified to say "the architect fucked up, and didn't do the job he was obligated to do."

If a parent's minor child is plastered all over the internet drinking in her mid teens, then subsequently gets knocked up...

Are you really going to try and argue this?

Really?

Then you are really an extremely stupid person.

It's not even up to debate.


Light coming on yet, Gullible One?

[Mikey]

I'm not an architect, but if someone designs a building that topple during a 4.5 earthquake 17 years after construction, I'm more than qualified to say "the architect fucked up, and didn't do the job he was obligated to do."

That actually would be the civil engineer.
But it's not really important.

[battery chucka' one]

Unfortunately, from the interviews I've seen her give with CBS and ABC, Palin looks a little nervous on camera. I hope I'm wrong in that assessment. She seems hesitant in her answers too, when the interviewer isn't on her side. I'll keep watching. The debate with Biden is important.

[rozy]

The Couric interview was a disaster. She came out well on the Gibson interview because everyone saw Gibson making an ass of himself. Couric was as well, but Palin shouldn't have ducked the questions. She needs to cut loose. Not that it really matters though. This election is going to be a landslide now unless some out of leftfield closet problem takes McLoon down. McCain has a ton of friends on both sides of the aisle. In times of tumult such as these, the people as a whole are certainly not going to go with the inexperience of a first term Senator as the #1 on a ticket. So you and I, Chucka, are going to get our candidate, Palin, as a tagalong. I can swallow enough pride to live with that. But I would certainly like to see the muzzle removed. The RNC speech and the Hannity interview were grand slams. Keep swinging.

If Slick Willie changes his endorsement, which would surprise almost noone at this juncture, we could have 1984 all over again, with the female coming out on the right side this time.

[Tom In VA]

It is fucking nuts I'm reading where the Dems biggest fear is that McCain will broker a deal and get Republicans in line for some bailout package and be "the hero"

Strange fucking days.

[battery chucka' one]

Rozy, I pray you're right and that McCain will win, but I really think that Obama's going to win this election. Don't get me wrong, he SHOULDN'T, but I think he will. That's perhaps the most disgusting thing about this situation. That's what scares me the most. Again, I pray I'm wrong. I fear that I'm not.