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Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:29 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
1. Oklahoma (57) 4-0 1,520 2
2. LSU (1) 4-0 1,399 6
3. Missouri 4-0 1,398 5
4. Alabama (2) 5-0 1,350 10
5. Texas (1) 4-0 1,310 7
6. Penn State 5-0 1,146 12
7. Brigham Young 4-0 1,054 11
8. Texas Tech 4-0 1,047 9
9. Southern California 2-1 990 1
10. (tie) South Florida 5-0 888 14
10. (tie) Georgia 4-1 888 3
12. Ohio State 4-1 854 13
13. Florida 3-1 832 4
14. Auburn 4-1 776 16
15. Utah 5-0 684 17
16. Kansas 3-1 555 18
17. Wisconsin 3-1 521 8
18. Boise State 3-0 446 20
19. Vanderbilt 4-0 351 25
20. Oregon 4-1 286 22
21. Fresno State 3-1 280 24
22. Oklahoma State 4-0 229 NR
23. Connecticut 5-0 180 NR
24. Virginia Tech 4-1 161 NR
25. Wake Forest 3-1 148 15
Vandy - a top 20 team?
Never thought I'd see the day.
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:56 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
AP Top 25
1. Oklahoma (43) 4-0 1,599
2. Alabama (21) 5-0 1,565
3. LSU 4-0 1,466
4. Missouri (1) 4-0 1,453
5. Texas 4-0 1,362
6. Penn State 5-0 1,252
7. Texas Tech 4-0 1,105
8. Brigham Young 4-0 1,098
9. USC 2-1 1,087
10. South Florida 5-0 1,035
11. Georgia 4-1 1,018
12. Florida 3-1 914
13. Auburn 4-1 860
14. Ohio State 4-1 829
15. Utah 5-0 713
16. Kansas 3-1 650
17. Boise State 3-0 549
18. Wisconsin 3-1 520
19. Vanderbilt 4-0 459
20. Virginia Tech 4-1 290
21. Oklahoma State 4-0 277
22. Fresno State 3-1 232
23. Oregon 4-1 199
24. Connecticut 5-0 126
25. Wake Forest 3-1 107
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:22 pm
by Adelpiero
no way georgia or USC should still be in top 10, usc no way in top 15.
Tejas is the only one who can truly control their own destiny.
Vs OU
Vs MU back to back weeks.
they win both and win out, and NO ONE jumps in front of them, and has a better resume. 2 wins vs top 3 teams.
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:26 pm
by Shoalzie
I agree with the AP poll more than the coaches'...I'd switch Penn State and Texas around though.
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:29 pm
by Mr T
Georgia dropping further then USC who lost to nobody.
Neither one deserves the top 10.
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:42 pm
by Adelpiero
why are you laughing at them
BYU could play with anyone from the SEC.
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:48 pm
by Adelpiero
Papa Willie wrote:Adelpiero wrote:why are you laughing at them
BYU could play with anyone from the SEC.
Will have to see them play an actual football team first.
it's not my fault the pussies from SEC won't play the Mid Majors best. ducking them for the Sun Belt teams or Conference USA.
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:53 pm
by Adelpiero
were talking about BYU vs sec, try to stay on subject
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:00 pm
by War Wagon
It's joke that USC stayed ahead of both Florida and Georgia.
I'm surprised also that Alabama moved ahead of both Mizzou and Texas, though it's not undeserved.
And Penn St. all the way up to 6th and ahead of BYU doesn't make much sense either.
Oh well... as has been said all along, polls at this point are pretty meaningless, other than to give folks something to argue about.
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:03 pm
by Adelpiero
Papa Willie wrote:Adelpiero wrote:were talking about BYU vs sec, try to stay on subject
Again - who has BYU played?
they have 2 wins over BCS schools. its not their fault the BCS schools they scheduled years in advance became shitty. but unlike Auburn(3-2 over miss st, 14-12 over tenn, buwahaha) and others, they took care of business. I realize NO One from the south knows where exactly BYU is and where they play, but leaving the state lines is ok. scheduling la monroe, tulane, so louisana, etc yearly are pretty weak.
how about playing a mtn west conference team, wac team. you know some OOC teams who can play ball.
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:41 am
by Danimal
Adelpiero wrote:no way georgia or USC should still be in top 10, usc no way in top 15.
Tejas is the only one who can truly control their own destiny.
Vs OU
Vs MU back to back weeks.
they win both and win out, and NO ONE jumps in front of them, and has a better resume. 2 wins vs top 3 teams.
Mizzou's timing in playing Texas is a significant reason I can see you guys running the board. Coming off the RRS I doubt you see the horn A-game and their A-game is likely what it will take to win.
By the way, while it won't last once the teams play each-other I gotta play Big12 Ballsucking Homer and prop the 12 for having four in the top10 and six in the top25.
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:44 am
by Adelpiero
Danimal wrote:Adelpiero wrote:no way georgia or USC should still be in top 10, usc no way in top 15.
Tejas is the only one who can truly control their own destiny.
Vs OU
Vs MU back to back weeks.
they win both and win out, and NO ONE jumps in front of them, and has a better resume. 2 wins vs top 3 teams.
Mizzou's timing in playing Texas is a significant reason I can see you guys running the board. Coming off the RRS I doubt you see the horn A-game and their A-game is likely what it will take to win.
i think i seen a stat, where tejas hasnt lost a home game after the RRS. ever. not sure, but read something about it ona tejas paper. maybe a big12 home game. but they are very good off the game, win or lose.
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:13 pm
by MuchoBulls
War Wagon wrote:And Penn St. all the way up to 6th and ahead of BYU doesn't make much sense either.
Their ass kicking of Oregon State probably had a lot to do with it.
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:41 pm
by Goober McTuber
BTW, Sagarin has USC #3, South Florida #29 and Missouri #30.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt08.htm
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:34 pm
by Adelpiero
SEMO didnt help their sagarin cause.
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:38 pm
by Felix
Adelpiero wrote:why are you laughing at them
BYU could play with anyone from the SEC.
got to agree here...maybe not compete week in and week out (due to the meatgrinder characteristics of the SEC) but one game, BYU could stay with anybody in the country....I've seen them twice and this BYU team is not Hawaii of 2007, these dudes can actually play
they've also got Boise State at #6, which pleases me greatly, but in reality is simply ridiculous
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:08 pm
by SEC Ballsucking Homer
Jsc810 wrote:BYU doesn't stay within 2 scores with Alabama, LSU, Georgia, or Florida.
BYU doesn't stay within 1 score with Auburn.
I was with you until here.
BYU beats Vanderbilt, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Miss. State, Arkansas, and Ole Miss (if they don't play like they did against Florida).
Fucking sellout.
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:09 pm
by PSUFAN
It's too early for me to worry about where PSU is ranked...but 6th is probably too high at this point. Again...this past Saturday was the most adversity they've faced so far. Major tests await them. I'd probably place them #10 or so...
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:28 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
PSU's ranking is deserved at this point. When looking at a team's ranking, it's not just about what they've done, but what the other teams have done around them. You can say PSU doesn't deserve #6, but the question becomes "if not PSU, then who?"
- Taco Tech has beaten nobody.
- BYU looks tough but zero wins vs ranked teams.
- USC's loss was likely a fluke, but still, too big of a blemish to justify being ranked ahead of an undefeated PSU.
- South Florida, you might make a case for them. Undefeated and a win over a quality KU team.
- Gerorgia is still a quality football team but getting trounced at home is too damaging
So when you really look at it, PSU is probably where they should be. You can't make a real strong case for anybody jumping them at this point.
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:40 pm
by .m2
Top to bottom.... Sagarin's poll makes more sense than the others.
The others make me shake my head.
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:07 pm
by Adelpiero
.m2 wrote:Top to bottom.... Sagarin's poll makes more sense than the others.
The others make me shake my head.
yeah, boise st at #6 with Missouri #30, makes a ton of sense
let me guess, Cal some how is top 10-15 in sagarins???
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:43 pm
by .m2
Adelpiero wrote:.m2 wrote:Top to bottom.... Sagarin's poll makes more sense than the others.
The others make me shake my head.
yeah, boise st at #6 with Missouri #30, makes a ton of sense
let me guess, Cal some how is top 10-15 in sagarins???
Who the hell has Missouri beat ???
A 2-2 Illini team ???
That's what you get when you play "cupcakes" and you don't have SEC next to your name.
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:50 pm
by Goober McTuber
Adelpiero wrote:.m2 wrote:Top to bottom.... Sagarin's poll makes more sense than the others.
The others make me shake my head.
yeah, boise st at #6 with Missouri #30, makes a ton of sense
let me guess, Cal some how is top 10-15 in sagarins???
Cal is #13.
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:52 pm
by .m2
Goober McTuber wrote:Adelpiero wrote:.m2 wrote:Top to bottom.... Sagarin's poll makes more sense than the others.
The others make me shake my head.
yeah, boise st at #6 with Missouri #30, makes a ton of sense
let me guess, Cal some how is top 10-15 in sagarins???
Cal is #13.
WisCONsin just lost to Michigan.
Now that's some funny shit... if you're looking for a little humor.
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:55 pm
by Adelpiero
cal and vandy in top 15
NEXT
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:58 pm
by .m2
Adelpiero wrote:cal and vandy in top 15
NEXT
That's what you get when you don't play "high schools" and you're a College team.
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:59 pm
by Goober McTuber
.m2 wrote:Goober McTuber wrote:Adelpiero wrote:
yeah, boise st at #6 with Missouri #30, makes a ton of sense
let me guess, Cal some how is top 10-15 in sagarins???
Cal is #13.
WisCONsin just lost to Michigan.
Now that's some funny shit... if you're looking for a little humor.
Wisconsin ALWAYS loses at Michigan. That’s not humor, that’s tradition.
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:39 pm
by .m2
Goober McTuber wrote:
Wisconsin ALWAYS loses at Michigan. That’s not humor, that’s tradition.
At least you're not UCLA...
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:04 pm
by Felix
Jsc810 wrote:BYU doesn't stay within 2 scores with Alabama, LSU, Georgia, or Florida.
before it's all said and done, I think we're going to find out (at least with one of those teams) if that's true
(assuming BYU gets past Utah)
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:37 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
BYU doesn't stay within 2 scores with Alabama, LSU, Georgia, or Florida.
What makes you think that? How many upsets is it going to take in the CFB world for people to realize just about anybody can beat anybody? And I don't necessarily mean on an "any given Saturday" basis either. Predictions are one thing, but holding such absolute certainty makes you look arrogant and foolish...especially as it relates to a top 10 team in BYU. Ole Miss certainly proved they could "stay within 2 scores" of UF, eh? Why not BYU?
Yeah, yeah, I know...Ole Miss would finish in the top 2 of any conference outside the SEC.
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:09 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
BYU isn't some Sun Belt johnny come lately. They've had a solid program for years, and were nationally dominant at one point. They recruit well. You have no basis for your claim other than just typical SEC bravado.
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:16 pm
by .m2
Jsc810 wrote:
Oregon St plays USC another 20 times, and they get beat 20 times.
And so on.
BYU has no business being a top 10 team.
This is just another(of well over hundred) examples.... of why you're a complete fucking idiot.
Oregon State has beaten U$C 2 of the last 3 times they've played..... you fucking idiot.
"Seriously, can you go just "one day" in the College Football forum.... without being a complete imbecile???"
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:24 am
by War Wagon
Jsc810 wrote:
And yes, I am being arrogant and foolish, and it feels good. :)
tends to lead to some massive hangovers, but at least you're honest.
If it
feels good, DO IT!
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:24 pm
by Felix
Jsc810 wrote:
And yes, I am being arrogant and foolish
on this we agree-the gap in funding, facilities, quality of athletes, etc. between mid-major type programs and traditional powerhouse programs is becoming much smaller
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:50 pm
by WolverineSteve
Jsc810 wrote: I barely know the names of a few LSU's players, much less knowing anything about other schools and conferences.
If that aint a sig I don't know what is.
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:55 pm
by indyfrisco
WolverineSteve wrote:Jsc810 wrote: I barely know the names of a few LSU's players, much less knowing anything about other schools and conferences.
If that aint a sig I don't know what is.
No shit. And to top it up, in the same quote later on...
Jsc810 wrote:But you do serve a purpose, in the sense that a board needs its tards.
While I consider mtool a gnat round these parts, he still knows a thing or two about CFB aside from the names of his QB, RB and maybe a WR or two.
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:26 am
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Well, they were good in those games. No shame in admitting what's currently evident.
You form opinions as the season moves along, and when teams win/lose you re-evaluate said opinions. Isn't that how this is all supposed to work?
Re: Coaches Poll 9/28/08
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:42 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
I'll bet you guys said the same things about Boise St before they beat OU in the Fiesta Bowl.