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Re: with a little help from the ref

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:05 pm
by .m2
I was watching this one live on TV and first thought the ref just got caught in the way. When they played the replay you can see him step into and throw his shoulder into the QB. I thought "The Old Ball Coach" would be going ballistic, but it didn't happen. Very crucial turn of events at that point in the game.



Good hit, but if he's going to be making tackles from the Sam spot, he better learn to drop his hips and wrap the guy up.


Here's the whole version... includes slo-mo.


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Re: with a little help from the ref

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:06 pm
by M Club

Re: with a little help from the ref

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:15 pm
by Goober McTuber
88 wrote:You have got to be kidding me. That is a fake, right?
Colin Cowturd was railing about it today, wondering why the mainstream sports press has been completely mum about this. Good question.

Re: with a little help from the ref

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:18 pm
by SoCalTrjn
didnt the South Carolina folks produce a video last year of their game with LSU that had cheap shot after cheap shot in it and none recieved a flag? Its easy to not get many penalties in a game when the refs are on your side.

Re: with a little help from the ref

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:24 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
If that video is real, that's some bizarre shit.

Re: with a little help from the ref

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:52 pm
by Left Seater
Umpires are taught to step towards a runner who is coming straight at you. The thought process is that this forces the runner to move left or right.

I have never anyone tell them to shuffle their feet and to move parallel to the LOS. And dropping your shoulder to make a better hit? This guy needs a few weeks off.

Re: with a little help from the ref

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:19 pm
by PSUFAN
what the hell?

Re: with a little help from the ref

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:29 pm
by .m2
SoCalTrjn wrote:didnt the South Carolina folks produce a video last year of their game with LSU that had cheap shot after cheap shot in it and none recieved a flag? Its easy to not get many penalties in a game when the refs are on your side.

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Re: with a little help from the ref

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:39 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
MSU could've really used that guy on Saturday vs Pryor.

Re: with a little help from the ref

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:56 pm
by Adelpiero
this has already been discussed at nauseating lengths

officiating is pathetic in all sports.



what a shocker, Bo Pelini coached Defense taking cheap shots on players.

Re: with a little help from the ref

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:36 am
by L45B
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:MSU could've really used that guy on Saturday vs Pryor.
Especially during this play...


Re: with a little help from the ref

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:59 am
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Yeah, I'm not watching that.

Re: with a little help from the ref

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:41 am
by Moby Dick
if i were spurrier , the next play i would have called would be something over the middle and then laid that fucker out.

what goes around comes around boy, what goes around comes around!
-Cypress Hill

Re: with a little help from the ref

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:26 am
by Danimal
Left Seater wrote:Umpires are taught to step towards a runner who is coming straight at you. The thought process is that this forces the runner to move left or right.

I have never anyone tell them to shuffle their feet and to move parallel to the LOS. And dropping your shoulder to make a better hit? This guy needs a few weeks off.
I'd say the rest of the year off at least. If the runner had come at him I could give the shoulder the benefit of the doubt, but ref actually shuffled right into the runner's path to give the shoulder. Too fishy for the guy to be working games IMO. Looked to me like if the ref hadn't went for the shoulder the runner would've skimmed by him without significant contact at all.

Re: with a little help from the ref

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:38 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Maybe I'm just naive but I gotta believe the ref here. Under the assumption he's getting paid to fix the outcome, why the hell would he do something so blatantly obvious as taking out a player running with the ball? Maybe I'm not an expert on fixing games, but I don't think that's how it's done :lol: .

I chalk it up as nothing more than a freak accident.

Re: with a little help from the ref

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:30 pm
by Adelpiero
watch the video of last years game and the shit LSU got away with.

especially the 4th down play, and the official moving the ball, so its a turnover. im shocked Spurrier didnt take a 15 yarder and just go nuts.

u can see its a first down from the camera, then the official moving the bal lwith his hand.


nothing from the SEC refs or Big12 Refs from Texas would surprise me. The SWC was a league full of cheaters and cheats. The worst officials in the Big12, are the Texans. There is a saying in the Big12, just pray you dont get texans doing your games in Texas.



just when you think the officiating in all sports has hit a new low, they ratchet it up to another level of stupidity.

Re: with a little help from the ref

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:36 pm
by WolverineSteve
I think the old ex-linebacker had some flashbacks to the 70's for just a monent. Nice footwork and positioning for a guy his age. I say rack him, nice play, and give the dude a sticker for the back of his cap.

Re: with a little help from the ref

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:49 pm
by buckeye_in_sc
can you imagine if that happened vs So CAL...toejam would MELT in epoch strides...

L45B don't forget the Beanie Stiff Arm as well

Cal also could have used that ref in the 2nd half against Arizona...

Re: with a little help from the ref

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:42 pm
by Dinsdale
Adelpiero wrote: nothing from the SEC refs or Big12 Refs from Texas would surprise me.

Whereas on the other hand, PAC refs are quite capable of suprising me...


Occasionally making the correct call would do the trick.

Re: with a little help from the ref

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:17 am
by SoCalTrjn
Had it happened in So Cal I would have waited for his ass in the parking lot and then beaten his ass to death with a baseball bat. Thats 2 years in a row that the SEC officials fucked South Carolina vs LSU, would certainly seem to an outsider that the conference is indeed playing favorites.

Re: with a little help from the ref

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:23 am
by RadioFan
Moby Dick wrote:if i were spurrier , the next play i would have called would be something over the middle and then laid that fucker out.
Rack.

Re: with a little help from the ref

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:50 am
by Left Seater
Adelpiero wrote:nothing from the SEC refs or Big12 Refs from Texas would surprise me. The SWC was a league full of cheaters and cheats. The worst officials in the Big12, are the Texans. There is a saying in the Big12, just pray you dont get texans doing your games in Texas.

Right. :meds:


That is why Randy's crew has called a title game. And why Cooper's crew was the top ranked for two of the last three seasons.

Re: with a little help from the ref

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:15 am
by SoCalTrjn
RadioFan wrote:
Moby Dick wrote:if i were spurrier , the next play i would have called would be something over the middle and then laid that fucker out.
Rack.
Id have him ear holed by a 270 LB TE on a trap play and then dog piled Mean Machine style

Re: with a little help from the ref

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:48 pm
by WolverineSteve
SoCalTrjn wrote:
RadioFan wrote:
Moby Dick wrote:if i were spurrier , the next play i would have called would be something over the middle and then laid that fucker out.
Rack.
Id have him ear holed by a 270 LB TE on a trap play and then dog piled Mean Machine style

Unless your team was losing. In that case you bitch and whine about how pathetic your team was and throw in the towel on the rest of the season.

Pussy.