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What if...
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:17 pm
by Goober McTuber
1. Texas Tech wins the next two, but loses to Missouri in the Big 12 championship game.
2. Alabama beats Auburn, but loses to Florida in the SEC championship game.
3. Oregon State wins out to claim half of the Pac 10 championship.
This scenario probably moves Florida to BCS #1, but who would they get in the BCS championship? Texas and Oklahoma are the next in line right now, but neither would even be in the championship game for their conference. My guess would be that the voters would leapfrog USC (shared championship in a shitty conference) into the #2 spot.
Sentimental choice would be tOSU.
Re: What if...
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:25 pm
by War Wagon
Goober McTuber wrote:1. Texas Tech wins the next two, but loses to Missouri in the Big 12 championship game.
Though I'd love for it to play out that way, I really don't see Tech beating OU.
2. Alabama beats Auburn, but loses to Florida in the SEC championship game.
3. Oregon State wins out to claim half of the Pac 10 championship.
Both scenarios are very likely.
This scenario probably moves Florida to BCS #1, but who would they get in the BCS championship? Texas and Oklahoma are the next in line right now, but neither would even be in the championship game for their conference. My guess would be that the voters would leapfrog USC (shared championship in a shitty conference) into the #2 spot.
Sentimental choice would tOSU.
Should all 3 come to pass, I think Penn State re-enters the discussion.
Re: What if...
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:44 pm
by Goober McTuber
War Wagon wrote:Goober McTuber wrote:1. Texas Tech wins the next two, but loses to Missouri in the Big 12 championship game.
Though I'd love for it to play out that way, I really don't see Tech beating OU.
Even if OU beats Tech, as long as Missouri wins the championship game the BCS has a dilema lining up Florida's oponent. No way PSU climbs over USC.
Re: What if...
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:26 pm
by RadioFan
Goober McTuber wrote:Even if OU beats Tech, as long as Missouri wins the championship game the BCS has a dilema lining up Florida's oponent. No way PSU climbs over USC.
I've been thinking of posting something along the same lines -- namely the honks' worst nightmare:
If Mizzou wins the Big XII championship game (not an outrageous chance by any stretch, given that it will be a virtual home game for them at Arrowhead in cold weather) ...
There is a possibility that one of the Big XII south teams that DOESN'T make the Big XII championship game, will move up in the standings to play in the MNC game.
In other words, if OU wins out, they very likely would jump Texas in the BCS standings. But if OU loses to Mizzouri, Texas could end up playing in the MNC game ... sort of like what happened when Nebraska backed into the MNC game a few years ago, even though they didn't even play in the Big XII title game.
Re: What if...
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:38 pm
by War Wagon
Goober McTuber wrote:No way PSU climbs over USC.
Oh, I dunno'....
IF PSU beats 15th ranked MSU, maybe that gives them enough of a SoS boost in the computer rankings?
Let's hope so.
Re: What if...
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:43 pm
by Goober McTuber
War Wagon wrote:Goober McTuber wrote:No way PSU climbs over USC.
Oh, I dunno'....
IF PSU beats 15th ranked MSU, maybe that gives them enough of a SoS boost in the computer rankings?
Let's hope so.
No. And certainly not enough to move past whatever is left of Texas, Texas Tech and Oklahoma currently sitting ahead of them. If Alabama’s only loss is to Florida in the SEC championship, the Tide might not even drop below PSU.
Re: What if...
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:50 pm
by MuchoBulls
Goober McTuber wrote:1. Texas Tech wins the next two, but loses to Missouri in the Big 12 championship game.
2. Alabama beats Auburn, but loses to Florida in the SEC championship game.
3. Oregon State wins out to claim half of the Pac 10 championship.
What if UF were to lose to FSU and then beat Alabama? Would UF be able to move up above all the teams that would be between them.
You could still get Texas vs. USC.
Re: What if...
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:53 pm
by SoCalTrjn
Texas vs USC works
Re: What if...
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:59 pm
by War Wagon
I'm gonna' crawl out on limb here and predict the MNC will be Oklahoma vs. Florida.
Re: What if...
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:17 pm
by Goober McTuber
If Oklahoma beats Texas Tech, what’s the criteria for deciding the 3-way tie in the Big 12 South?
Re: What if...
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:25 pm
by RadioFan
Goober McTuber wrote:If Oklahoma beats Texas Tech, what’s the criteria for deciding the 3-way tie in the Big 12 South?
If OU, Tech and Texas are tied, the team with the highest BCS rating goes to the Big XII title game.
That's why if Mizzou beats any of those teams in the Big XII title game, the one that is left out has a real shot of getting to the MNC game.
The system, as it is now, would essentially reward a team that doesn't even get to go to its own conference championship game.
Re: What if...
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:42 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
SoCalTrjn wrote:Texas vs USC works
You forgot about this . . .
2. Alabama beats Auburn, but loses to Florida in the SEC championship game.
If Florida wins out in the regular season (their remaining opponents are The Citadel and Florida State) and wins the Meatgrinder championship, there's no way to keep them out of the national championship game. None.
The Meatgrinder championship game becomes a de facto semifinal game if Alabama and Florida both win out.
Re: What if...
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:15 pm
by MuchoBulls
Terry in Crapchester wrote:SoCalTrjn wrote:Texas vs USC works
You forgot about this . . .
2. Alabama beats Auburn, but loses to Florida in the SEC championship game.
If Florida wins out in the regular season (their remaining opponents are The Citadel and Florida State) and wins the Meatgrinder championship, there's no way to keep them out of the national championship game. None.
The Meatgrinder championship game becomes a de facto semifinal game if Alabama and Florida both win out.
I think he was repsonding to my scenario that if everything mentioned in the first post occurred AND UF lost to FSU, then you could potentially get Texas vs. USC.
Re: What if...
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:22 pm
by War Wagon
RadioFan wrote:Goober McTuber wrote:If Oklahoma beats Texas Tech, what’s the criteria for deciding the 3-way tie in the Big 12 South?
If OU, Tech and Texas are tied, the team with the highest BCS rating goes to the Big XII title game.
Yep, and I believe the nod will go to OU.
Re: What if...
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:31 pm
by Goober McTuber
War Wagon wrote:RadioFan wrote:Goober McTuber wrote:If Oklahoma beats Texas Tech, what’s the criteria for deciding the 3-way tie in the Big 12 South?
If OU, Tech and Texas are tied, the team with the highest BCS rating goes to the Big XII title game.
Yep, and I believe the nod will go to OU.
Only if they blow out Tech. Texas is two spots above them, and Texas beat Oklahoma by 10 points. Texas lost at the very end of a close game with Tech. I'd say Texas gets the nod in a 3-way tie.
Re: What if...
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:34 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
MuchoBulls wrote:Terry in Crapchester wrote:SoCalTrjn wrote:Texas vs USC works
You forgot about this . . .
2. Alabama beats Auburn, but loses to Florida in the SEC championship game.
If Florida wins out in the regular season (their remaining opponents are The Citadel and Florida State) and wins the Meatgrinder championship, there's no way to keep them out of the national championship game. None.
The Meatgrinder championship game becomes a de facto semifinal game if Alabama and Florida both win out.
I think he was repsonding to my scenario that if everything mentioned in the first post occurred AND UF lost to FSU, then you could potentially get Texas vs. USC.
You're right, my bad.
Re: What if...
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:38 pm
by War Wagon
However it works out, assuming OU beats Tech, there will be howls of protest coming from one side or the other.
Re: What if...
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:25 pm
by RadioFan
War Wagon wrote:However it works out, assuming OU beats Tech, there will be howls of protest coming from one side or the other.
No doubt. And in all likelihood, with good reason, depending on what happens.