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Pollard needs to go. He's ruined a decent athletic department. McCarney had the football program respectable and Wayne Morgan did nothing to deserve to get fired. Both programs have gotten worse under the coaches he hired and promised greatness to the fans to.

There isn't going to be much of an impressive list...

Maybe they could convince Turner Gil, but I think that's unlikely.

My guess is Steve Loney will be the guy. I really can't think of anyone else that has decent credentials they could go after- though I'm not sure Loney's credentials really are that high.

Ken (O)'Keefe, Chuck Long, DAN MCCARNEY, Ron Prince.......I dunno who else.

Mace wrote:Any thoughts on who might be on Pollard's list, or is it too early?

I have no clue. I'm still kind of shocked. First of all, I didn't think Chizik would leave this early. I could understand if we had improved this year and next year made a bowl. I could see schools looking at him. I honestly thought the whole thing was a joke when I heard about it. I'm still amazed Auburn hired him and paid him the money they did.


p.s. Why is it that JON has to answer everytime I am asked about the Cyclones?

Probably because theJON believes that he knows all there is to know about college football, plus, I think he's really a closet Cyclone fan....at least when ISU is winning the game.

Kind of. Except you have it backwards. I tend to root for ISU when they really suck. Not sure why. Used to cheer for the Clones back when I was younger as long as they weren't playing the Hawks. The only other time I've cheered for the Clones was when they played Florida State in 2002. Well, I was golf clapping because I sat press box for that one and they have gay rules about not cheering in the press box.

Papa Willie wrote:Shit - hire Tubberville. You might as well go in a better direction, as Auburn has chosen to go in a shittier direction.

I think ISU fans would love Tubberville. I don't think Tubberville would love ISU though. I hope they take a good look at Gill.

I bet they interview Mark Farley. Not sure if they'll hire him. It would be a terrible hire if they did. ISU wouldn't win more than 4 games ever under him. He could never recruit. 1-AA coaches could never make it at ISU. Guys like Tressel can make it at an Ohio State because the school recruits on itself. Tressel had so many ties with the Ohio high schools and so he could load up on players from the state, and then he could recruit out of state because they're Ohio State. Can't do that in Iowa. There's not many big shot recruits here and Iowa State can't recruit nationally on name. If Pollfraud hires Farley, he not only won't be able to sell tickets but the program will completely fall apart.

Turner Gil is not coming to ISU. I saw in the Rag they listed Brady Hoke as a potential candidate. Are you fucking kidding me?

Bob Elliott would not be a great hire, though he may be able to recruit better than some of the other candidates because he would just copy Bill Snyder's questionable recruiting methods.

I think Ron Prince or Ty Willingham should be guys Iowa State looks at. Willingham has ties out west and to the Midwest so he might be able to recruit well enough at a school like ISU. I can't imagine him getting any better of a job either. Same goes for Ron Prince, though I'm not sure he could recruit as well as Willingham.

TheJON wrote:I bet they interview Mark Farley. Not sure if they'll hire him. It would be a terrible hire if they did. ISU wouldn't win more than 4 games ever under him. He could never recruit. 1-AA coaches could never make it at ISU. Guys like Tressel can make it at an Ohio State because the school recruits on itself. Tressel had so many ties with the Ohio high schools and so he could load up on players from the state, and then he could recruit out of state because they're Ohio State. Can't do that in Iowa. There's not many big shot recruits here and Iowa State can't recruit nationally on name. If Pollfraud hires Farley, he not only won't be able to sell tickets but the program will completely fall apart.

Turner Gil is not coming to ISU. I saw in the Rag they listed Brady Hoke as a potential candidate. Are you fucking kidding me?

Bob Elliott would not be a great hire, though he may be able to recruit better than some of the other candidates because he would just copy Bill Snyder's questionable recruiting methods.

I think Ron Prince or Ty Willingham should be guys Iowa State looks at. Willingham has ties out west and to the Midwest so he might be able to recruit well enough at a school like ISU. I can't imagine him getting any better of a job either. Same goes for Ron Prince, though I'm not sure he could recruit as well as Willingham.

Nobody gives two shits what you think will happen at ISU.

Mace wrote:

minorthreat wrote:Nobody gives two shits what you think will happen at ISU.

Next time I have a question about ISU, I'll just post a thread for theJON.

What a tool.

And next time I have a question about the circumfrance of my nuts, I'll post a thread for you.

Your mouth disagrees.

Gill would be a great hire, could be a hard get though. Could give a Bowden or Tubberville a call but I'd image they're going to sit on their asses til the next round of firings come.

Could chase some guys like Graham, Holtz, Calhoun, or Hoke.

Out of coordinators I'd look at Bud Foster from Va Tech. He is a hell of a coach that gets the most out of his guys.

If Prince picks up a phone and calls recruits, he is a better recruiter than Willingham.

Prince already has job lined up, but I'm sure he would take a head job over that of a position coach.

Danimal wrote: Out of coordinators I'd look at Bud Foster from Va Tech. He is a hell of a coach that gets the most out of his guys.

my grandfather has told me stories about the good ol' days when bud foster was always mentioned as a great coordinator who'd make for a solid hire at head coach. every year: bud foster bud foster bud foster. why does anyone bother even mentioning him? he's not going anywhere.

M Club wrote:

Danimal wrote: Out of coordinators I'd look at Bud Foster from Va Tech. He is a hell of a coach that gets the most out of his guys.

my grandfather has told me stories about the good ol' days when bud foster was always mentioned as a great coordinator who'd make for a solid hire at head coach. every year: bud foster bud foster bud foster. why does anyone bother even mentioning him? he's not going anywhere.

I hope not because, if he ever leaves, VT's football program will go back to the Dark Ages.

OU co-OC Jay Norvell was a candidate back before Chizik got hired. Maybe they'll give him a look.

Danimal wrote:OU co-OC Jay Norvell was a candidate back before Chizik got hired. Maybe they'll give him a look.

I've heard he may be interviewed. I'm not that high on him.

I've also heard...Mike Stoops, Todd Graham/Gus Malzahn, and Pat Hill.

minorthreat wrote:

Danimal wrote:OU co-OC Jay Norvell was a candidate back before Chizik got hired. Maybe they'll give him a look.

I've heard he may be interviewed. I'm not that high on him.

I've also heard...Mike Stoops, Todd Graham/Gus Malzahn, and Pat Hill.

I'd go with Graham. He is a quality HC in the Leach/Briles mold that will create some excitement.

Rumormill now is that Mike Stoops might be the guy. Maybe he doesn't like his chances against BYU and thinks a loss puts him back on the hotseat. Sounds a little farfetched but you never know I guess.

Danimal wrote:Rumormill now is that Mike Stoops might be the guy. Maybe he doesn't like his chances against BYU and thinks a loss puts him back on the hotseat. Sounds a little farfetched but you never know I guess.

We have a couple of local retards (Marty and Miller radio show) that broke this. It's how the story got going. Don't listen to any rumor these idiots say. They're always wrong.

It does make sense......sorta. Stoops' contract at Arizona didn't get renewed so he's kind of a lame duck coach. So this would give him a fresh start and a new contract. And on top of that he's got ties to Iowa (former Hawkeye player/coach) and the Big-12 (at OU). So that makes some sense.

BUT, he's been very mediocre at a similar type of football program and he's a former Hawkeye. I've heard a lot of upset Clone fans at the prospects of yet another Hawkeye taking over their program. I understand that. But if you want a guy with Iowa ties (and I've seen many of them say this), you basically gotta get a Hawkeye? I mean, who in the Clone family is qualified for a Big-12 job? The Hayden Fry coaching tree is very impressive and there's a history of coaches in the tree turning programs around and this is what ISU needs.

But I doubt Stoops is the guy. The Stoops' are buddies with McCarney and so they know of the challenges at ISU. McCarney worked his ass off for 13 years at that school and it ruined his career. He'll never be a head coach again because of his record. Granted, he's an assistant at Florida now but once a head coach you always wanna be a head coach. If Stoops has even spoken to ISU, I'm sure he's contacted Danny Mac for a reference and I highly doubt Dan was encouraging him to take the job. Yes, McCarney loved ISU but he knows the headaches that go along with a job like that.

Besides, Hayden Fry has criticized Jamie Pollard for firing McCarney and so I doubt Hayden's been encouraging Mike to go to ISU.

Who knows what's going on. It will probably be someone completely out of left field. Jamie Pollard does a great job keeping these quiet and the last hire (Chizik) came out of nowhere. My guess is this will happen again.

I think by Monday they'll have a coach. Just haven't a clue who it will be.

TheJON wrote:

Danimal wrote:Rumormill now is that Mike Stoops might be the guy. Maybe he doesn't like his chances against BYU and thinks a loss puts him back on the hotseat. Sounds a little farfetched but you never know I guess.

We have a couple of local retards (Marty and Miller radio show) that broke this. It's how the story got going. Don't listen to any rumor these idiots say. They're always wrong.

It does make sense......sorta. Stoops' contract at Arizona didn't get renewed so he's kind of a lame duck coach. So this would give him a fresh start and a new contract. And on top of that he's got ties to Iowa (former Hawkeye player/coach) and the Big-12 (at OU). So that makes some sense.

BUT, he's been very mediocre at a similar type of football program and he's a former Hawkeye. I've heard a lot of upset Clone fans at the prospects of yet another Hawkeye taking over their program. I understand that. But if you want a guy with Iowa ties (and I've seen many of them say this), you basically gotta get a Hawkeye? I mean, who in the Clone family is qualified for a Big-12 job? The Hayden Fry coaching tree is very impressive and there's a history of coaches in the tree turning programs around and this is what ISU needs.

But I doubt Stoops is the guy. The Stoops' are buddies with McCarney and so they know of the challenges at ISU. McCarney worked his ass off for 13 years at that school and it ruined his career. He'll never be a head coach again because of his record. Granted, he's an assistant at Florida now but once a head coach you always wanna be a head coach. If Stoops has even spoken to ISU, I'm sure he's contacted Danny Mac for a reference and I highly doubt Dan was encouraging him to take the job. Yes, McCarney loved ISU but he knows the headaches that go along with a job like that.

Besides, Hayden Fry has criticized Jamie Pollard for firing McCarney and so I doubt Hayden's been encouraging Mike to go to ISU.

Who knows what's going on. It will probably be someone completely out of left field. Jamie Pollard does a great job keeping these quiet and the last hire (Chizik) came out of nowhere. My guess is this will happen again.

I think by Monday they'll have a coach. Just haven't a clue who it will be.

Seriously...shut the fuck up. You have no clue.

Danimal wrote:OU co-OC Jay Norvell was a candidate back before Chizik got hired. Maybe they'll give him a look.

i don't think Jay Norvell has coached 2 years in a row at the same place in the last 6-7 years. he's bounced around the NFL....he took the OU WR job for 3 days a few years ago. then took a job with the Raiders.

i said this before about Kevin Sumlin, this is Kevin Wilson's show and has been. not saying either Sumlin or Norvell aren't good O minds or don't contribute....but the co-OC thing is pretty overstated.

Mace wrote:Well, it's Paul Rhoads, the Auburn DC. Did anyone here throw his name around in this thread? What's your take SEC guys. Know anything about him?

So he got the job then?
ISU rivals board never mentioned his name in anything I've read to date.

Cornhusker wrote:

Mace wrote:Well, it's Paul Rhoads, the Auburn DC. Did anyone here throw his name around in this thread? What's your take SEC guys. Know anything about him?

So he got the job then?
ISU rivals board never mentioned his name in anything I've read to date.

Ughhh....

Another coach without HC experience.

I am displeased.

Ala

I'm kind of torn with this one. He wasn't the "flashy" hire a lot of fans were hoping to get. But ISU went that route the last time and it backfired. I will wait to see how it plays out. Does anyone know what regions he recruited from while at Auburn? Was he a good recruiter?

AlaCyclone wrote:

Cornhusker wrote:

Mace wrote:Well, it's Paul Rhoads, the Auburn DC. Did anyone here throw his name around in this thread? What's your take SEC guys. Know anything about him?

So he got the job then?
ISU rivals board never mentioned his name in anything I've read to date.

Ughhh....

Another coach without HC experience.

I am displeased.

Ala

i can't say i'd be overwhelmed or elated either.

Not a great hire, I'd have leaned towards a guy that could give the O a spark and attract some talent. But he's a solid DC that will believe in the program and not just see it as a stepping-stone. But they could've done worse.

You should probably pay attention, minorthreat, because it's obvious that theJON has had private conversations with not only Dan McCarney, Mike Stoops, and Jamie Pollard, but also Hayden Fry. Just remember that you read it here first.

Mace, do you really wanna continue looking like a fool?? I'm getting kinda tired of smacking your bitch ass.

Would you like to read what I wrote again cuz it looks like I was dead on.

Stoops would not be the guy.....I was right.
Chizik was going to Auburn.....I was right
Pollard would hire someone no one is talking about......I was right
Pollard would not long a slam dunk hire.......I was right


God damn you're fucking dumb!

Wow, you're just flat out dumb. Would you like to try again? You were chasing a ball in the dirt there......

Again, READ WHAT I WROTE YOU STUPID DUMB FUCK!

MY POST WAS DISAGREEING WITH THE DES MOINES REGISTER AND THE MEDIA HERE YOU INCREDIBLY STUPID AND WORTHLESS PILE OF DUNG!

Try again, this time try having a take that doesn't suck. Okay?


By the way, I whipe my ass in the morning with The Rag just so you know.

The media's picks.......Mike Stoops, Todd Graham, Pat Hill, Phillip Fulmer
My picks........None of the above

Yeah, clearly I was just copying what they said!! The funny thing is your generation claims the school systems were so much better back when you were in school yet with your posts, it's very hard to believe that. Go root for Iowa State and screw up their average fans IQ.

TheJON wrote:Wow, you're just flat out dumb. Would you like to try again? You were chasing a ball in the dirt there......

Again, READ WHAT I WROTE YOU STUPID DUMB FUCK!

MY POST WAS DISAGREEING WITH THE DES MOINES REGISTER AND THE MEDIA HERE YOU INCREDIBLY STUPID AND WORTHLESS PILE OF DUNG!

Try again, this time try having a take that doesn't suck. Okay?


By the way, I whipe my ass in the morning with The Rag just so you know.

The media's picks.......Mike Stoops, Todd Graham, Pat Hill, Phillip Fulmer
My picks........None of the above

Yeah, clearly I was just copying what they said!! The funny thing is your generation claims the school systems were so much better back when you were in school yet with your posts, it's very hard to believe that. Go root for Iowa State and screw up their average fans IQ.

You didn't "break" any news to me. Paul Rhoads was one of the first name mentioned on CycloneReport, along with Steve Loney. You are just a long winded dolt who thinks they have a higher IQ than they actually do. Truth is, you are exactly the type of Hawkeye fan that the rest of the college football fans hate. You tend to think you know what is good for every other team when in reality, you have no fucking clue. You are truly fucking retarded. I would punch you in your money maker but wouldn't know if I should hit you in the mouth or ass first.

Stay classy, Clone fan, stay classy.

TheJON wrote:Stay classy, Clone fan, stay classy.

Shut the fuck up.

You watch Soundoff AND read the Rag's website??

Wow, what a complete tool you are.

I didn't know anyone did either of those things.

Let's see here.......What's buggin' Andy was funny like 8 years ago.
And The Rag has been unreadable since Mark Hansen went to another section of the paper.

Fuckin' douchebag!

Oh let me guess, Mace....

You listen to Cotlar?

Only fags listen to Cotlar.

You should try reading a newspaper sometime, JONboy, and quit watching MSNBC for your news stories.

I'm more of a CNN and Fox News viewer than MSNBC actually. If I'm watching MSNBC it's so I can watch for that one episode of To Catch a Predator where you swore on a holy stack of Bibles that you had no intentions of having intercourse with that little girl, you just wanted to come and warn her of all the predators out there. I don't think Chris Hansen was buying your excuse but don't worry Mace......I believe you.

Andy Fales is an annoying moron, which is why he reminds me of you.

Fales is hilarious. The Whats Buggin' Andy segment got old years ago, but he's funny with Murph on the radio when they've filled in for other hosts. You should go have a beer with the guy sometime, he's actually a very cool dude.

Yeah, Hansen was a good columnist....Keeler, not so much....but, like I said, what other paper you gonna read, twatlips?

Oh, I dunno......the internet?? The Rag is a joke. I get the paper. I whipe my ass with it. Keeler's face looks much better covered in my shit.