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NCAA Tournament Conference Scorecard
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:59 am
by .m2
Big 12 6-0
Pac 10 5-1
Big East 6-1
ACC 3-4
Big 10 4-3
SEC 1-2
A-10 2-1
Mountain West 0-2
Horizon 1-1
All the other conferences only had ONE entry into the Big Dance
It looks like all claims of conference superiority by the ACC are NOT validated. The Big 12, Big East, and Pac 10 are showing well so far. Unfortunately, Cal was the only Pac team that lost.... but, considering (not an excuse) that Cal was picked to finish 9th in the conference and had lost TWO NBA quality players, I would still say it was a successful season.
Re: NCAA Tournament Conference Scorecard
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:23 pm
by Shine
Outright win/loss numbers are okay but I prefer to look at how conferences are doing relative to the seeds their teams drew.
The Big East at 6-1 is impressive, but also expected. By seeding they were heavily favored to be 7-0, so the 6-1 mark isn't quite as dominant as it appears on the surface.
The ACC at 3-4 looks bad, but when you factor in seeding it's even worse. They lost a 4 and a 5 seed so two of their losses were heavy favorites. They won their other 2 heavy favorite games they should have but only went 0-2 in slight favorite games with a slight dog win for the third W.
The Big 10 at 4-3 is pretty much what it seems. They went 2-1 in heavy favorite games, lost their toss-up but were able to go 1-1 in slight dog games and 1-0 in heavy dog games.
The Pac 10 at 5-1 is doing well. They won the 3 heavy favorite games they should have, got a win as a slight dog to offset the loss as a slight favorite but also had a heavy dog win*.
*let's be real though, Zona was favored in Vegas as the 12 seed
The Big 12 being undefeated speaks for itself. Making the undefeated record more impressive though is that 2 of the wins came in toss-up games and they held serve as a slight favorite.
We'll see how the 2nd round shapes up. By seeding alone the S16 breakdown should be:
Big East- 5
ACC- 3
B10- 1
P10- 1
B12- 3
For the power conferences how they did IMO will be based a lot on how they stack up to those numbers.
Re: NCAA Tournament Conference Scorecard
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:40 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
The ACC is getting shithammered in this tournament. Jaysus.
Re: NCAA Tournament Conference Scorecard
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:46 pm
by Screw_Michigan
It's definitely not the basketball MEATGRINDER, that's for sure.
Re: NCAA Tournament Conference Scorecard
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:06 am
by Terry in Crapchester
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:The ACC is getting shithammered in this tournament. Jaysus.
As long as North Carolina and Duke continue to make the Sweet 16 every season, we'll continue to prop the ACC as the toughest conference in the country.
Regards,
Btw, since the Pac-10 came crashing back to reality in Round 2, 2oodles will probably take a powder. So here's updated conference standings:
1.
Big East 11-2 overall, 5 teams remaining. 6-1 first round, 5-1 second round. 11-1 as higher seeded team, 0-1 as lower seeded team. Big East vs. other multi-bid conferences: 2-0 vs. Pac-10, 2-1 vs. Big XII, 0-1 vs. Atlantic 10.
2.
Big XII 9-3 overall, 3 teams remaining. 6-0 first round, 3-3 second round. 8-0 as higher seeded team, 1-3 as lower seeded team. Big XII vs. other multi-bid conferences: 2-0 vs. Big 10, 1-0 vs. Atlantic 10, 1-0 vs. MWC, 1-0 vs. SEC, 1-2 vs. Big East, 0-1 vs. ACC.
3.
Big 10 6-5 overall, 2 teams remaining. 4-3 first round, 2-2 second round. 3-2 as higher seeded team, 3-3 as lower seeded team. Big 10 vs. other multi-bid conferences: 2-0 vs. ACC, 2-0 vs. Pac-10, 0-1 vs. Atlantic 10, 0-2 vs. Big XII.
4.
Pac-10 6-5 overall, 1 team remaining. 5-1 first round, 1-4 second round. 4-2 as higher seeded team, 2-3 as lower seeded team. Pac-10 vs. other multi-bid conferences: 1-0 vs. Atlantic 10, 1-0 vs. Horizon, 1-0 vs. MWC, 1-0 vs. SEC, 1-1 vs. ACC, 0-2 vs. Big East, 0-2 vs. Big Ten.
5.
Atlantic 10 3-2 overall, 1 team remaining. 2-1 first round, 1-1 second round. 2-0 as higher seeded team, 1-2 as lower seeded team. Atlantic 10 vs. other multi-bid conferences: 1-0 vs. Big East, 1-0 vs. Big 10, 0-1 vs. Big XII, 0-1 vs. Pac-10
6.
ACC 5-5 overall, 2 teams remaining. 3-4 first round, 2-1 second round. 4-4 as higher seeded team, 1-1 as lower seeded team. ACC vs. other multi-bid conferences: 1-0 vs. Big XII, 1-0 vs. SEC, 1-1 vs. Pac-10, 0-1 vs. Horizon, 0-2 vs. Big 10.
7.
Horizon 1-2 overall, 0 teams remaining. 1-1 first round, 0-1 second round. 0-0 as higher seeded team, 1-2 as lower seeded team. Horizon vs. other multi-bid conferences: 1-0 vs. Pac-10, 0-1 vs. Big XII, 0-1 vs. SEC.
8.
SEC 1-3 overall, 0 teams remaining. 1-2 first round, 0-1 second round. 1-0 as higher seeded team, 0-3 as lower seeded team. SEC vs. other multi-bid conferences: 1-0 vs. Horizon, 0-1 vs. ACC, 0-1 vs. Big XII, 0-1 vs. Pac-10.
9.
MWC 0-2 overall, 0 teams remaining. 0-2 first round. 0-2 as higher seeded team. MWC vs. other multi-bid conferences: 0-1 vs. Big XII, 0-1 vs. Pac-10.
Re: NCAA Tournament Conference Scorecard
Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:37 am
by Terry in Crapchester
Through three rounds . . .
1. Big East 15-3 overall, 4 teams remaining. 6-1 first round, 5-1 second round, 4-1 third round. 14-1 as higher seeded team, 1-2 as lower seeded team. Big East vs. other multi-bid conferences: 3-0 vs. Pac-10, 1-0 vs. ACC, 1-0 vs. Big 10, 2-2 vs. Big XII, 1-1 vs. Atlantic 10. Guaranteed at least one team in the Final Four.
2. Big XII 11-4 overall, 2 teams remaining. 6-0 first round, 3-3 second round, 2-1 third round. 9-0 as higher seeded team, 2-4 as lower seeded team. Big XII vs. other multi-bid conferences: 1-0 vs. Atlantic 10, 1-0 vs. MWC, 1-0 vs. SEC, 2-1 vs. Big 10, 2-2 vs. Big East, 0-1 vs. ACC.
3. Big 10 7-6 overall, 1 team remaining. 4-3 first round, 2-2 second round, 1-1 third round. 4-2 as higher seeded team, 3-4 as lower seeded team. Big 10 vs. other multi-bid conferences: 2-0 vs. ACC, 2-0 vs. Pac-10, 1-2 vs. Big XII, 0-1 vs. Atlantic 10, 0-1 vs. Big East.
4. ACC 6-6 overall, 1 team remaining. 3-4 first round, 2-1 second round, 1-1 third round. 5-5 as higher seeded team, 1-1 as lower seeded team. ACC vs. other multi-bid conferences: 1-0 vs. Big XII, 1-0 vs. SEC, 1-1 vs. Pac-10, 0-1 vs. Big East, 0-1 vs. Horizon, 0-2 vs. Big 10.
5. Pac-10 6-6 overall, 0 teams remaining. 5-1 first round, 1-4 second round, 0-1 third round. 4-2 as higher seeded team, 2-4 as lower seeded team. Pac-10 vs. other multi-bid conferences: 1-0 vs. Atlantic 10, 1-0 vs. Horizon, 1-0 vs. MWC, 1-0 vs. SEC, 1-1 vs. ACC, 0-2 vs. Big Ten, 0-3 vs. Big East,
6. Atlantic 10 3-3 overall, 0 teams remaining. 2-1 first round, 1-1 second round, 0-1 third round. 2-0 as higher seeded team, 1-3 as lower seeded team. Atlantic 10 vs. other multi-bid conferences: 1-0 vs. Big 10, 1-1 vs. Big East, 0-1 vs. Big XII, 0-1 vs. Pac-10
7. Horizon 1-2 overall, 0 teams remaining. 1-1 first round, 0-1 second round. 0-0 as higher seeded team, 1-2 as lower seeded team. Horizon vs. other multi-bid conferences: 1-0 vs. Pac-10, 0-1 vs. Big XII, 0-1 vs. SEC.
8. SEC 1-3 overall, 0 teams remaining. 1-2 first round, 0-1 second round. 1-0 as higher seeded team, 0-3 as lower seeded team. SEC vs. other multi-bid conferences: 1-0 vs. Horizon, 0-1 vs. ACC, 0-1 vs. Big XII, 0-1 vs. Pac-10.
9. MWC 0-2 overall, 0 teams remaining. 0-2 first round. 0-2 as higher seeded team. MWC vs. other multi-bid conferences: 0-1 vs. Big XII, 0-1 vs. Pac-10.
Re: NCAA Tournament Conference Scorecard
Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:47 am
by SunCoastSooner
I think it is obvious what the two best conferences in the country were this year based on tourney performance... and the ACC isn't one of them.
Re: NCAA Tournament Conference Scorecard
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:55 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
Through four rounds . . .
1. Big East 17-5 overall (16-4 outside of conference), 2 teams remaining. 6-1 first round, 5-1 second round, 4-1 third round, 2-2 fourth round. 15-3 as higher seeded team, 2-2 as lower seeded team. Big East vs. other multi-bid conferences: 3-0 vs. Pac-10, 1-0 vs. ACC, 3-2 vs. Big XII, 1-1 vs. Atlantic 10, 1-1 vs. Big 10 (also 1-1 vs. Big East).
2. Big XII 11-6 overall, 0 teams remaining. 6-0 first round, 3-3 second round, 2-1 third round, 0-2 fourth round. 9-0 as higher seeded team, 2-6 as lower seeded team. Big XII vs. other multi-bid conferences: 1-0 vs. Atlantic 10, 1-0 vs. MWC, 1-0 vs. SEC, 2-1 vs. Big 10, 2-3 vs. Big East, 0-2 vs. ACC.
3. Big 10 8-6 overall, 1 team remaining. 4-3 first round, 2-2 second round, 1-1 third round, 1-0 fourth round. 4-2 as higher seeded team, 4-4 as lower seeded team. Big 10 vs. other multi-bid conferences: 2-0 vs. ACC, 2-0 vs. Pac-10, 1-1 vs. Big East, 1-2 vs. Big XII, 0-1 vs. Atlantic 10.
4. ACC 7-6 overall, 1 team remaining. 3-4 first round, 2-1 second round, 1-1 third round, 1-0 fourth round. 6-5 as higher seeded team, 1-1 as lower seeded team. ACC vs. other multi-bid conferences: 2-0 vs. Big XII, 1-0 vs. SEC, 1-1 vs. Pac-10, 0-1 vs. Big East, 0-1 vs. Horizon, 0-2 vs. Big 10.
5. Pac-10 6-6 overall, 0 teams remaining. 5-1 first round, 1-4 second round, 0-1 third round. 4-2 as higher seeded team, 2-4 as lower seeded team. Pac-10 vs. other multi-bid conferences: 1-0 vs. Atlantic 10, 1-0 vs. Horizon, 1-0 vs. MWC, 1-0 vs. SEC, 1-1 vs. ACC, 0-2 vs. Big Ten, 0-3 vs. Big East,
6. Atlantic 10 3-3 overall, 0 teams remaining. 2-1 first round, 1-1 second round, 0-1 third round. 2-0 as higher seeded team, 1-3 as lower seeded team. Atlantic 10 vs. other multi-bid conferences: 1-0 vs. Big 10, 1-1 vs. Big East, 0-1 vs. Big XII, 0-1 vs. Pac-10
7. Horizon 1-2 overall, 0 teams remaining. 1-1 first round, 0-1 second round. 0-0 as higher seeded team, 1-2 as lower seeded team. Horizon vs. other multi-bid conferences: 1-0 vs. Pac-10, 0-1 vs. Big XII, 0-1 vs. SEC.
8. SEC 1-3 overall, 0 teams remaining. 1-2 first round, 0-1 second round. 1-0 as higher seeded team, 0-3 as lower seeded team. SEC vs. other multi-bid conferences: 1-0 vs. Horizon, 0-1 vs. ACC, 0-1 vs. Big XII, 0-1 vs. Pac-10.
9. MWC 0-2 overall, 0 teams remaining. 0-2 first round. 0-2 as higher seeded team. MWC vs. other multi-bid conferences: 0-1 vs. Big XII, 0-1 vs. Pac-10.