Specter to GOP - L8, you FREAKS

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:25 pm

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/ ... YP20090428

He said the "Republican Party has moved far to the right" and noted that some 200,000 Republicans in Pennsylvania changed their voting registration for the November 2008 election, in which Democratic President Barack Obama handily won the state.

Yet ANOTHER grand victory for Pennsylvania.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:47 pm

What would it take to get McDole to jump too?

I'll throw $5 into the kitty.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:48 pm

Arlen Specter, let's remember, was the guy who invented, advanced, and strenuously attempted to sell to the world, the theory of the Magic Bullet in the JFK assassination. Yep, it's his baby. Perhaps you got a chuckle from recent supporters of this ludicrous affront to physics--such as Gerald Posner in his fatuous farce, "Case Closed." But that's what Specter really is and what he's really all about.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:18 pm

Sarcasm noted PSU.

If you were serious...

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:49 pm

it is highly unlikely that the Democrats will accept him as their nominee in 2010

Specter is very popular in PA - just not with GOP folks, whose numbers in the state are declining rapidly. As he says, he has never supported a political party over his people. His people have moved away from an increasingly radical GOP.

My prediction is that Specter will comfortably represent the state's Democratic Party in the 2010 election -and go on to thump Twomey in the general election.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:04 am

Left Seater wrote:If you were serious...

Oh, he was serious alright.

Specter is very popular in PA - just not with GOP folks, whose numbers in the state are declining rapidly. As he says, he has never supported a political party over his people. His people have moved away from an increasingly radical GOP.

So what you're saying is that he doesn't have any core beliefs of his own and lacks a backbone. Whichever way the political winds blow, that's where you'll find good ol' Arlen. It's all about "his people".

Lmao at you Pennslyvania hillbilly gullible fucks.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:15 am

You're not getting it, Whitey. The variable element here is whatever is motivating the GOP. Your guess there is as good as mine...and theirs, because they certainly don't know.

Specter has long been a moderate, as have been his core supporters. Southeastern PA (Philly and the 4 suburban counties that surround it) houses 40% of PA's population. This area has always been for Specter...but many of these folks have been disgusted at the headlessness and the aimlessness of the GOP, so they've moved on.

Specter moving on is a burning sore for the folks who are led by Fox News and whatever Rush/Hannity clone currently rules the air waves. They are ill-positioned to lose seasoned politicians like Specter. Now, they are led by entertainers like Glen Beck and Limbaugh - court jesters who only stand for whatever momentary cause can light up their call boards. They are NOT led by principled politicians, by intellectuals, or by folks who craft policies - in short, by folks who lead...instead they are led by whomever farts most winningly in front of them.

Nice party you call home, there, Wags.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:28 am

LTS TRN 2 wrote:He's a Jew Bastard.

All anyone saw...^

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:38 am

mvscal wrote:And the local Democratic party hacks are just going to roll over for a turncoat GOP dick slap?

If you've been paying attention, you know that Specter's been a pretty good friend to the dems over the years. Why wouldn't they vote for him? Also, as noted above PA had about 200,000 GOP voters register as democrats over the last year. Those folks - as well as many others - will vote for Specter, yes. Also, he'll definitely have the support of the White House and much of the democrat establishment. Who's gonna beat him?

At least one potential Dem candidate is reassessing things - Rep. Josh Shapiro.

Why don't you go ahead and link me up any instances of democrats denouncing this move...just bump the thread with them as you find them.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:42 am

I get it just fine, PUS

Spectre is rat jumping off a sinking ship and showing his true colors. Nice legacy he's cementing for himself.

Meanwhile, the political pendulum will swing back sooner rather than later and the backlash will be devastating. You think 1994 was horrendous? That will seem like childs play compared to what's coming next.

Make your time. You've got about 18 months left. Try not to do too much irreparable damage while not under adult supervision.

But when daddy gets home, there's going to be hell to pay.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:46 am

Under whose standard will the GOP rally, Wags?

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:54 am

Who knows. Could be someone out of nowhere.

Nobody knew who the fuck Obama was prior to the primaries. "Cinderella story, come up from nowhere".

People are beginning to understand that the press, the "artists", even the Republican Party have bastardized, corrupted, and perverted Conservatism. They're at least, curious, about what conservatism is all about.

This guy isn't a former Dee Jay just speaking out of his ass.

His book is taking off, he will get the message through.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:54 am

War Wagon wrote:Lmao at you Pennslyvania hillbilly gullible fucks.

Hillbilly forklift driver from the meth capital of the nation speaks for himself, right?

What a delusional, pathetic tard you are.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:12 am

PSUFAN wrote:Under whose standard will the GOP rally, Wags?

Screw_Michigans, and that makes me sad... but not for the reasons you may think.

All this time while the GOP controlled the WH and the Congress, Bri seethed. I'm not talking Dr. Phibes or Nick Frisco type seething, I'm talking the guy sitting next to me at the bar type seething.

And now that he finally got what he wanted, he's not so sure he wants it anymore. Wife, kids, job... those things that tend to change your perspective from a college liberal to an ultra-conservative middle aged fuddy duddy... because you just don't have time to fuss about it anymore and do what you have to to get by.

Here's to my buddy B_Smack.

Gone, but not forgotten.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:20 am

War Wagon wrote:And now that he finally got what he wanted, he's not so sure he wants it anymore. Wife, kids, job... those things that tend to change your perspective from a college liberal to an ultra-conservative middle aged fuddy duddy... because you just don't have time to fuss about it anymore and do what you have to to get by.

Sorry, some of us still have the functioning, analytical brain capacity and critical thinking skills to think beyond just surviving day to day. Sorry all your fuck ups in life have left you in that position, Wags. I'd certainly hate to think if I had no energy left after the end of a workday to think beyond punching out and being just a bitter fuck singing kumbayah with 'tart in case the sky fell.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:39 am

And some of us have the analytical brain capacity left to realize that MGMT sucks.

Sorry, you were saying something?

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:05 am

Arlen Specter wrote:The "Republican Party has moved far to the right"

PSU wrote:an increasingly radical GOP

Simply amazing, the idiocy that shows up on the board.

The GOP has moved undeniably LEFT in recent years.

Bush was not conservative.

Sure, he tossed the base some bones on domestic issues with stem cell and his anti-gay marriage rhetoric.

Some of the base was duped into a comatose state of passivity.

MOST were MORTIFIED by his spending and his blatant disregard for the Constitution.

His historically low approval ratings didn't come because only libs hated him.

Conservatives hated him, too.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:17 am

Who's talking about Bush? I'm talking about the GOP apparatus that sought to win this past election. The best - only chance they had at winning was to activate the looney fringe of the party. They were deservedly trounced for their efforts. Normal folks moved away from them in droves. The people in PA who will vote for Specter would have done so if he was a Republican.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:32 am

The GOP nominated McCain this past fall.

He's pretty much a "middle of the road" candidate in this day and age, no?

The Dems effectively tied McCain in with Bush ... and the Sheeple wouldn't have Bush III.

So they voted for Obama.

And they got Bush III, anyway.

trev · Post by **trev** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:59 am

Spector is just another old fart who needs to retire.

By the way, read this.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... 2737.story

Terry in Crapchester · Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:03 am

PSUFAN wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote:He's a Jew Bastard.
All anyone saw...^

That could describe about 99% of Nicky's posts, but for once, I actually agree with him. The "Magic Bullet" theory is horseshit, and I, for one, am chagrined at the number of people who apparently have come around to that line of thinking in recent years.

That having been said, the "Magic Bullet" theory is also about 40 years old. Time to let bygones be bygones, perhaps?

mvscal wrote:And the local Democratic party hacks are just going to roll over for a turncoat GOP dick slap?

Rumor had it that Tweety was considering a run for the Senate on the Democratic Party. At a minimum, the Democrats are no worse off running Specter.

H4ever · Post by **H4ever** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:09 pm

Probably just another sign of this country's lean to socialism. Greedy, corrupt fucks at the helm of the GOP over the last 10 years can thank themselves when their looking for a ticket to Canada.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:31 pm

Terry in Crapchester wrote:
PSUFAN wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote:He's a Jew Bastard.
All anyone saw...^
That could describe about 99% of Nicky's posts, but for once, I actually agree with him. The "Magic Bullet" theory is horseshit, and I, for one, am chagrined at the number of people who apparently have come around to that line of thinking in recent years.

That having been said, the "Magic Bullet" theory is also about 40 years old. Time to let bygones be bygones, perhaps?

mvscal wrote:And the local Democratic party hacks are just going to roll over for a turncoat GOP dick slap?
Rumor had it that Tweety was considering a run for the Senate on the Democratic Party. At a minimum, the Democrats are no worse off running Specter.

The fact that he's a Jew is irrelevant. I notice no one trots out this crap when I cite Noam Chomsky. But as for Specter's role in the cover-up of the JFK assassination, it's significant in reminding us just who and what this guy really is. As for the ongoing historical spin job, consider that yet another "exhaustive" study was conducted recently--with the reassuring conclusion of a lone deranged communist gunman, etc. The fact that Specter is also a lock-step supporter of the grotesque race state is no surprise. The "super majority" really doesn't mean dick since the entire government is basically dysfunctional. What interesting times we're in! :wink:

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Thu May 07, 2009 4:39 pm

Let's not kid ourselves here. Specter was elected for years by the Dems of the state of PA. I didn't vote for him while living in PA yet he carried the counties around Philly and Pitt.

Dude is and always has been a better fit with the Dems.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Thu May 07, 2009 5:11 pm

he carried the counties around Philly and Pitt.

More exactly, Specter's power base was always the suburban counties of Philly - an area which of late was pretty heavily moderate republican. It's those folks who have migrated away from the GOP...they are the ones he's following.

jiminphilly · Post by **jiminphilly** » Thu May 07, 2009 5:14 pm

PSUFAN wrote:
he carried the counties around Philly and Pitt.

More exactly, Specter's power base was always the suburban counties of Philly - an area which of late was pretty heavily moderate republican. It's those folks who have migrated away from the GOP...they are the ones he's following.

... you are 100% correct however if Ridge does enter the race, Spector will lose.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Thu May 07, 2009 5:17 pm

All depends. Ridge has some pretty significant skeletons in the closet that so far have not been explored by his political opponents. These skeletons are what have kept him from seeking higher office.

I have to say - I don't know why Specter would go through a tough campaign at this point in his life. If I were him, I'd call it a day.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Thu May 07, 2009 5:18 pm

PSUFAN wrote:
he carried the counties around Philly and Pitt.

More exactly, Specter's power base was always the suburban counties of Philly - an area which of late was pretty heavily moderate republican. It's those folks who have migrated away from the GOP...they are the ones he's following.

Must have been really lately. I saw none of that in Ft Washington, Blue Bell, or KofP. Big time left of center areas in the early 2000's.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Thu May 07, 2009 5:19 pm

With all due respect - how long were you there?

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Thu May 07, 2009 5:30 pm

3 years. Long enough to know some folks that are now good friends. Long enough to vote against Specter and for Bush. Neither vote made a dent at all though in our area. Bush lost handily and Specter won handily.

Terry in Crapchester · Thu May 07, 2009 6:00 pm

mvscal wrote:
jiminphilly wrote:... you are 100% correct however if Ridge does enter the race, Spector will lose.
He has already lost the race, that's why he jumped ship. You think another squishy moderate is going to beat Toomey in the primary?

Ridge isn't running.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Thu May 07, 2009 6:56 pm

PSUFAN wrote:
I have to say - I don't know why Specter would go through a tough campaign at this point in his life. If I were him, I'd call it a day.

You sir...do not understand how the political process works. There is ample evidence of why the gentleman from Pennsylvania would do this.

Sincerely,

Strom Thurmon
Robert Byrd
Ted Kennedy
Bob Dole

and every other fossilized piece of Congressional shit in Congress.

jiminphilly · Post by **jiminphilly** » Thu May 07, 2009 11:53 pm

mvscal wrote:He would have gotten waxed by Toomey as well.

A recent Quinnipiac University poll says otherwise.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1327.xml?ReleaseID=1293

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Fri May 08, 2009 12:28 am

jim wrote:Quinnipiac

Prayers going out.

socal · Post by **socal** » Fri May 08, 2009 2:52 am

PSUFAN wrote:I have to say - I don't know why Specter would go through a tough campaign at this point in his life. If I were him, I'd call it a day.

Already did. I am behind a wall of sound.
Sin,
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Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Fri May 08, 2009 2:57 am

Good riddance. Call it addition through subtraction.

And yes, he'll be toast in 2010.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Fri May 08, 2009 3:20 am

Diogenes wrote:Good riddance. Call it addition through subtraction.

And yes, he'll be toast in 2010.

Care to bet on that?

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Fri May 08, 2009 3:34 am

Screw_Michigan wrote:
Diogenes wrote:Good riddance. Call it addition through subtraction.

And yes, he'll be toast in 2010.
Care to bet on that?

No. My jinx factor is too strong. Plus Pennsylvanians aren't all that bright in general.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Tue May 12, 2009 6:43 pm

Arlen Sphincter

Terry in Crapchester · Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:39 pm

Old news, but for once in his life, mvscal might have gotten a prediction right. Joe Sestak is prepared to challenge Specter for the Senate seat. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl ... 96788.html

Ned Lamont challenged Joe Lieberman in the CT Democratic primary and won. I have to like Sestak's chances, in light of the fact that Specter is a much more recent convert to the Democratic Party, and Sestak has a better political resume than did Lamont.

Zysdale sidenote: I actually met Joe Sestak once, although it had nothing to do with politics. The year was 1987. I was a junior officer in the Navy, and while my ship was on SRA, I cross-decked to the USS Underwood. Sestak was that ship's Executive Officer at the time. The ship went to Tampa and participated in the Gasparilla Festival, so that was a pretty fun time (while there, I also made my first, and to date last, trip to Disney World).

Personally, I thought Sestak was a prick. Of course, that's pretty much what an XO's job description is. Then again, the link I posted described him as a "demanding taskmaster," so perhaps he hasn't changed much since those days. All of that having been said, he did make it all the way to Vice Admiral (retired as a Rear Admiral because he wasn't in the O9 paygrade long enough to retire there). That's pretty impressive no matter what, but especially as a SWO, given that SWOs eat their young.