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Sudden Sam wrote:Just skimmed page 2. This is hilarious.

It's like a Tulane fan arguing with a Kentucky fan about which school has a better football program!

Unreal. 2 mediocre, invisible teams...each of which might win 8-9 games once a decade.

Carry on boys.

Obviously, SEC fan doesn't watch anything other than SEC games.

TheJON wrote:

Unreal. 2 mediocre, invisible teams...each of which might win 8-9 games once a decade.

This is true for Kal. But Iowa? We're averaging about 4 or 5 the last few decades, in case you were wondering.

It's time to do the math.

Since Tedford arrived at Cal in 2002 he has NEVER had a losing season. Lets see how the 3 teams stack up over the last 7 years, shall we ?


# of wins during this time period.


Iowa has 59 wins

Cal has 57 wins

Alabama has 55 wins.


Now we must take into consideration that Cal doesn't schedule the "cupcakes" that Iowa and Alabama does for the free wins.


Lets look at some of the teams Iowa and Alabama has played during this time frame. (Remember, that they didn't play these teams just ONCE, but they played some of these teams MULTIPLE times) !!!

And most are HOME games


Iowa....

Maine
Northern Iowa
Florida International
Montana
Syracuse
Ball State
Kent State
Miami (OH)
Buffalo
Akron
Utah State


Now lets look at Alabama's ferocious schedule...


Tulane
Western Kentucky
Arkansas State
Western Carolina
Louisiana-Monroe
Florida International
Utah State
Northern Illinois
North Texas.


Remember, 1 out of every 4 games that Iowa and Alabama plays are against the above teams. One outta every freakin' four games!

Simply UNREAL !





Now with these kind of "cupcake" schedules.... you would think they would have had an extremely large amount of blow out wins.




Now lets do the math again.

Program - # of Blowout Wins (21 or more pts.) since 2002 among BCS

Southern Cal - 49 games
Texas - 48 games
Oklahoma - 45 games
LSU - 40 games
Florida - 33 games
Texas Tech - 33 games
Cal - 32 games
Penn State - 32 games
West Virginia - 32 games
Auburn - 31 games
Louisville- 31 games
Ohio State - 31 games
Virginia Tech - 31 games



Hmmmm.... I don't think I see Alabama or Iowa anywhere on that list.... even though they play 1 out of 4 games against "cupcakes".


That makes Cal's record versus Alabama and Iowa's that much more impressive.


Its obvious that the Southern NECK and the Country "Bumpkin" really don't know much about College Football outside of their of their little rural regions.




Cal would absolutely destroy Iowa and Alabama.











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I heard Jim Rome say that he likes Quiet Riot.

Nope, Cal would have to travel more than one time zone. EctoBlue would have to get up at 3 am to purge and we all know what happens next...

Killian wrote:Nope, Cal would have to travel more than one time zone. EctoBlue would have to get up at 3 am to purge and we all know what happens next...

Cal and Tedford.... are 5-0 vs. the Big 10.

That includes "road" wins against Michigan State.

Cal @ Michigan State


... and Illinois.

Cal @ Illinois

But they had their asses handed to them by MARYLAND...while we watched and laughed, and you slept.

I just can't bring myself to having a serious football discussion with this retard, so.......

You forgot one stat, m2......

Number of players on the team contracting teh AIDS from another member of the team.

Your Kal Bears have Iowa and 'Bama absolutely smoked in that category, faggot!

TheJON wrote:I just can't bring myself to having a serious football discussion with this retard, so.......

You forgot one stat, m2......

Number of players on the team contracting teh AIDS from another member of the team.

Your Kal Bears have Iowa and 'Bama absolutely smoked in that category, faggot!

Did you just call me gay ?

Or did you call the team (Cal) that beat Iowa into submission in 93' .... 37-3... gay?


I see 28 of your last 59 wins as forfeits.

When the Big 10 and SEC actually PLAY a real OOC schedule... then they may go 5-0 in bowl games like the PAC 10.

I'd really like to see the SEC Champion play the PAC 10 Champion in the Rose Bowl.


Not that the outcome would be any different... just a change of pace.







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Blueblood wrote:I'd really like to see the SEC Champion play the PAC 10 Champion in the Rose Bowl.

Alabama has more wins in the rose than kal.







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Mr T wrote:

Blueblood wrote:I'd really like to see the SEC Champion play the PAC 10 Champion in the Rose Bowl.

Alabama has more wins in the rose than kal.







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Dayum...rectal breech through the oral cavity.

Probably... the "best" team in College Football... history.


The "Wonder Years"......





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California ... s_football




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1920s "Wonder Teams"

The 1920s saw the first golden age of California football, as the Golden Bears went 50 straight games without a defeat from 1920 to 1925,

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They've long since more than made up for it, by now going 50 straight years without doing a single goddamned thing.

Hahahaha! 1993 Alamo Bowl smack.

Kal sucks. College Football History.com does not even recognize Kal as part of D-1. Awesome! Rack them!
http://www.collegefootballhistory.com/

We quit playing decent OOC schedules because we can't find teams to play us. West Virginia said no, Nebraska doesn't want to play. We scheduled Missouri for a home-and-home but they backed out of the contract at the last minute. Ferentz tries to schedule Pac-10 and Big East teams as much as possible. Big East is important because we recruit New Jersey area heavily. It's not easy to find quality opponents at a school like Iowa. That's not an excuse, it's a fact. The problem is you have to do a home and home and no coach wants to play Iowa because we're a good team and there's no recruiting benefit from playing us. No one outside this state recruits Iowa and so you don't need exposure here. Only reason we got Arizona to play us is because Stoops played at Iowa and he wanted to. Why would anyone decent want to play a win-lose game? If they lose to Iowa, they gain nothing from it in recruiting. If they beat Iowa, it's a nice win but still- no gain in recruiting. And Iowa needs exposure in certain areas so we try scheduling those areas but that limits the amount of quality teams we can play. Got UCONN on the schedule next year and Arizona again in 2011 I believe.

it's Cal's world, we're just living in it.

There it is, the single dumbest and most blatantly myopic thing ever posted on this board. It's everything that's wrong with BTPCF, neatly summed up in one epically gratuitous excuse of a statement....

Jon wrote:We quit playing decent OOC schedules because we can't find teams to play us.

Jesus, that should be BTPCF's sig; a permanent part of this board's marquee.

That thing should be inscribed on the rotunda of every state capitol building, all throughout The Meatgrinder.

Van wrote:There it is, the single dumbest and most blatantly myopic thing ever posted on this board. It's everything that's wrong with BTPCF, neatly summed up in one epically gratuitous excuse of a statement....

To be fair and honest, Jon has a point. Mizzou did back away from a home and home against Iowa. Not sure why. They should be a natural geographic rival much like Illinois, of which that "border battle" series is ending in 2010, I believe.

Iowa would've been the perfect replacement, albeit not so feasible to use a "neutral" site like St. Louis as with the Illini.

Van, I thought I told you to quit commenting on shit you know nothing about???????????

It's not myopic, it's a fact. It's tough for Iowa to schedule anyone good. When teams schedule opponents it's gotta meet the criteria of one or some of the following.........opponent located in area your program wants to dip into recruiting, makes sense geographically, is a cupcake and just wants a payday, is against an elite program and would be a game of the week/year. Where exactly does Iowa fit in there?

On top of that, you have to realize we are absolutely not going to give up a home game to play anyone. We will only play 1 road game each year OOC. Our athletic department would NEVER allow us to schedule multiple road games. The only exception was Northern Illinois in 2007 we played at Soldier Field, but we shared the gate for that game. So, every other year our road game is Iowa State. That will never come off the schedule. So that leaves open just 1 road game every other year for which to schedule an opponent. There is no way we're getting a team to come to Kinnick without us returning to play them at their place.

We got Arizona because of Stoops. We're trying to schedule more teams up in the Northeast because Ferentz is recruiting up there heavily so that makes sense. West Virginia would not play us. We offered a home and home and they said no. Neither Nebraska nor Iowa really want to play each other despite the schools being so close because neither team gives a shit about recruiting in the other's area. It makes more sense for Nebraska to play a USC (even if they lose) because it will be a Primetime game and they could really benefit from it. Iowa/Nebraska would be big in this area but not nationally.

Like I said, Missouri backed out on us at the last minute.

Give me a list of top teams Iowa should play and I'll give you a reason why it would be almost impossible for us to schedule. First team you can take off your list is Oklahoma as Bob Stoops has stated he never wants to play Iowa.

Believe the Heupel wrote:Got a link on that Jon? I've never heard that before. Could be true-maybe he still feels loyalty to them after Ohio State passed on him in recruiting.

I will search. i know I heard him say it on Iowa radio a few years back. But I am also fairly certain I've read it. Why would he NOT feel loyal to Iowa? He was an All-American and an assistant coach here. He also wanted the Iowa job until we fucked it up and Oklahoma snatched him away.

War Wagon wrote:

Van wrote:There it is, the single dumbest and most blatantly myopic thing ever posted on this board. It's everything that's wrong with BTPCF, neatly summed up in one epically gratuitous excuse of a statement....

To be fair and honest, Jon has a point. Mizzou did back away from a home and home against Iowa. Not sure why.

i'll tell you why, because Mizzou fan was pissing all over Pinkel and an xtra OOC loss meant a no bowl year for Pink. meanwhile, MU managed to get touched by Bowling Green and Troy OOC IIRC.

TheJON wrote:It's not myopic, it's a fact. It's tough for Iowa to schedule anyone good.

Sure it is... Cal's always open for a free win from the Big 10.

Just ask Michigan State, Illinois. and Minnesota.


Hell, Cal is scheduled to play @ OSU on September 15, 2012 with OSU coming to Berkeley in 2013 (date TBA). Cal may play the first two games that season on the road and open the new and improved Memorial Stadium with OSU.

Look for Cal.... to play more than "one" OOC game on the road in a single season.... and look for Cal to do it for more than recruiting reasons.




You do know why it's called "Strawberry Canyon".... ???



















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I can't wait to get to that shithole known as Berkley and whoop some Cal ass...

hey idiot...you finally stepped out and scheduled OSU...although it was OSU that did the calling...over the last few years OSU has played

Texas
USC

and will play

Va Tech
Oklahoma
Tennessee

meanwhile until you play OSU OOC in 2012 you will still be playing mostly 2nd tier teams from power conferences (sorry M GO)...

Why would Iowa want to play Cal? As we've already discussed, Iowa's got far too many cupcakes on their OOC schedule already.

By my count, there are more shit-smelling hippees lurking in those trees in the background than there are fans in that stadium that know a fucking thing about real BTP College Football.

Sudden Sam wrote:

R-Jack wrote: Yeah, A high school stadium that seats 72,000 and could kill you.

Not sure what that means...

I looked at some more photos of the stadium. I like the layout. It's damn nice.

Sudden Sam.... makes a visit to California

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Sudden Sam wrote:Fact is, though, that Cal football is an afterthought most years. Yeah, they might win 8 or 9 games once in a while, but, in the overall picture, they just don't matter. Contrary to what m2 thinks, I keep up with every game and every conference and Cal is sorta like South Carolina or Illinois or Maryland or Missouri. Ya' know? Decent team. Some good ballplayers. But nothing to be concerned about as far as the national picture.

Psst...

... Cal has more wins than Alabama during the Tedford era... and they don't play 4 high schools OCC with 8 games at home.

... Cal has more wins than Alabama during the Tedford era... and they don't play 4 high schools OCC with 8 games at home.

You root for Cal
You do not root for Alabama
You're a faggot

Alabama > Cal

Enough said.

TheJON wrote:

... Cal has more wins than Alabama during the Tedford era... and they don't play 4 high schools OCC with 8 games at home.

You root for Cal
You do not root for Alabama
You're a faggot

Alabama > Cal

Enough said.

And you enjoy exploiting your 7 year old brain...






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TheJON wrote:It's not myopic, it's a fact. It's tough for Iowa to schedule anyone good. When teams schedule opponents it's gotta meet the criteria of one or some of the following.........opponent located in area your program wants to dip into recruiting, makes sense geographically, is a cupcake and just wants a payday, is against an elite program and would be a game of the week/year. Where exactly does Iowa fit in there?

When MSU played a home and home with Cal, none of that criteria seemed to be considered. I think you're making more excuses.

When MSU played a home and home with Cal, none of that criteria seemed to be considered. I think you're making more excuses.

So you're saying that there's no difference between the recruiting in the state of Iowa and the state of Michigan????

Are you also trying to tell me that Missouri backing out on Iowa is just some made up thing Hawkeye fans use as an excuse why we can't play anyone despite the fact that a Mizzou fan in this thread backed my statements up??? Look.......we schedule Mizzou for 2006-2007. They backed out a few months before the 2006 season started. West Virginia had an open date, we tried to replace Mizzou with West Virginia. They didn't want to play. So we ended up with Syracuse in 2006 and Northern Illinois in 2007. This has been a constant problem with Iowa.

Facts aren't excuses. We're not an easy victory for ANYONE, and we're located in a state no team would want to dip into on the recruiting trail. And on top of that, we're a very good but not elite program so there would be no National Game of the Week type appeal to it. So why would anyone besides directional schools, Iowa State, and mid-majors want to play us? Where's the benefit for them??

And you enjoy exploiting your 7 year old brain...

You do realize, m2, that 99% of your posts on these boards are childish, immature, and downright classless don't you???

How can you, of all people, make that statement? I almost feel bad for you.........but not quite. You live a sad and pathetic life. Why do I get the feeling this right here is all you have going for you? Fucking loser.

TheJON wrote:You live a sad and pathetic life. Why do I get the feeling this right here is all you have going for you? Fucking loser.

You do know.... you live in Iowa...










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Jon wrote:We're not an easy victory for ANYONE

I can think of at least one team.

:twisted:

Sudden Sam wrote:
I had no idea Cal played in a high school stadium.

Really ?

Sudden Sam wrote:m2,

Any chance you'll quiet down when your Bears are 2-3 heading into the game with UCLA?

Alabama has a better chance of beating Utah... than Cal going 2-3 to start the season.